Comments on: Solid Hope in Vermont: Is Gay Marriage A'Comin'? http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/ Free of an agenda. Except that gay one. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:47:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sebbe http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-130102 Sebbe Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:34:53 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-130102 @Captain Freedom - Alot of things are better the farther North you go. @Captain Freedom – Alot of things are better the farther North you go.

]]> By: tavdy79 http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-130085 tavdy79 Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:50:16 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-130085 @<a href="#comment-130083" rel="nofollow">Captain Freedom</a>: Could be - you have the same pattern in the Southern hemisphere: those countries closest to the south pole (south America, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand) tend to be the most enlightened, and as you move north they get more unenlightened until you hit the "Strip of Hate". @Captain Freedom: Could be – you have the same pattern in the Southern hemisphere: those countries closest to the south pole (south America, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand) tend to be the most enlightened, and as you move north they get more unenlightened until you hit the "Strip of Hate".

]]> By: Captain Freedom http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-130083 Captain Freedom Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:38:25 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-130083 Strange... has anybody noticed that nations closest to the North Pole are the most gay friendly? Canada, Iceland, Scandinavia, Netherlands, New England. Yes as you get closer to the Equator you get stuck w North Africa, India, the Bible Belt (YUCK!), and nations less friendly or even hostile to gay rights. Does this mean that homophobia could be a weather pattern? Strange… has anybody noticed that nations closest to the North Pole are the most gay friendly? Canada, Iceland, Scandinavia, Netherlands, New England. Yes as you get closer to the Equator you get stuck w North Africa, India, the Bible Belt (YUCK!), and nations less friendly or even hostile to gay rights. Does this mean that homophobia could be a weather pattern?

]]> By: Captain Freedom http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-130082 Captain Freedom Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:32:00 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-130082 California will one day be as cool as Vermont and the rest of New England. Norcal is already there. It's those fascists in Inland Empire and Orange County who are holding us back. California will one day be as cool as Vermont and the rest of New England. Norcal is already there. It's those fascists in Inland Empire and Orange County who are holding us back.

]]> By: bek http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-130073 bek Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:05:02 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-130073 this is partially why i'm absolutely rabid to move to Vermont. when my husband and i vacationed there we were just floored by how laid back and non intrusive the people were. we didn't see all the religious crap or the judgmental-ism that is rampant in Utah and Wyoming (at least the part i live in). they really seem to have their heads in the right place. this is partially why i'm absolutely rabid to move to Vermont. when my husband and i vacationed there we were just floored by how laid back and non intrusive the people were. we didn't see all the religious crap or the judgmental-ism that is rampant in Utah and Wyoming (at least the part i live in). they really seem to have their heads in the right place.

]]> By: Sebbe http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-130009 Sebbe Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:12:05 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-130009 ps - GO NEW ENGLAND!!! ps – GO NEW ENGLAND!!!

]]> By: Sebbe http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-130008 Sebbe Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:11:46 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-130008 @Bruno - I agree, he will say it is not the time, but is unlikely to veto if it comes to that. Their is evidence in his past actions that he will not go against Montpelier especially considering that the majority of the people of Vermont consider this a non issue and want it passed and over with and settled so they can move on to the issues that need to be tackled. Very similar to the public sentiment in Connecticut. Gays want to get married go ahead and let em. @Bruno – I agree, he will say it is not the time, but is unlikely to veto if it comes to that. Their is evidence in his past actions that he will not go against Montpelier especially considering that the majority of the people of Vermont consider this a non issue and want it passed and over with and settled so they can move on to the issues that need to be tackled. Very similar to the public sentiment in Connecticut. Gays want to get married go ahead and let em.

]]> By: Bruno http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-129898 Bruno Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:49:07 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-129898 I've been reading that Douglas might be very likely to not veto but just let it become law without signing. I've been reading that Douglas might be very likely to not veto but just let it become law without signing.

]]> By: atdleft http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-129880 atdleft Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:11:08 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-129880 @<a href="#comment-129846" rel="nofollow">GayBobVT</a>: I know there's a large Democratic majority in both houses... But are they all pro-marriage? In California, we have pro-marriage majorities in both houses of the legislature... But they're far from veto-proof. That's why the bill to allow a vote to overturn 22 failed in 2006 after Arnold vetoed it. So are we prepared in VT to deal with a likely Douglas veto? @GayBobVT: I know there's a large Democratic majority in both houses… But are they all pro-marriage? In California, we have pro-marriage majorities in both houses of the legislature… But they're far from veto-proof. That's why the bill to allow a vote to overturn 22 failed in 2006 after Arnold vetoed it.

So are we prepared in VT to deal with a likely Douglas veto?

]]> By: GayBobVT http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-129847 GayBobVT Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:06:33 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-129847 Ooops - it is not officialy veto-proof - but if Republicans who have stated their support don't back off, it would be. Ooops – it is not officialy veto-proof – but if Republicans who have stated their support don't back off, it would be.

]]> By: GayBobVT http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-129846 GayBobVT Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:01:34 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-129846 Yes, the Senate/House are veto-proof. But not all of us VT-gays have SSM high on our must-do list... some of us would settle for just a date... Yes, the Senate/House are veto-proof. But not all of us VT-gays have SSM high on our must-do list… some of us would settle for just a date…

]]> By: lauren http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-129824 lauren Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:13:21 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-129824 Vermont is the f*cking bomb. I hope this happens. Come on VT, keep on the independent spirit! Vermont is the f*cking bomb. I hope this happens. Come on VT, keep on the independent spirit!

]]> By: Jaroslaw http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-129697 Jaroslaw Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:12:43 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-129697 ATDLEFT - you're probably right that the voters are ahead of the governing entities, I've heard something like that before about Vermont. But it would be really interesting to know what would have happened in California if the Catholic & Mormon churches hadn't gone overboard with advertising not to mention their outright lies and deceptions. ATDLEFT – you're probably right that the voters are ahead of the governing entities, I've heard something like that before about Vermont. But it would be really interesting to know what would have happened in California if the Catholic & Mormon churches hadn't gone overboard with advertising not to mention their outright lies and deceptions.

]]> By: atdleft http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-129687 atdleft Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:55:14 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-129687 @<a href="#comment-129685" rel="nofollow">Jaroslaw</a>: It's weird. In some ways, I think Vermont is the reverse of California. In CA, the legislators (and now Governor) are ahead of the voters in supporting marriage equality. But in VT, I think the reverse is true. It seems the people are ready, but the Governor isn't and I haven't yet heard if there's a veto-proof majority in the Legislature. @Jaroslaw: It's weird. In some ways, I think Vermont is the reverse of California. In CA, the legislators (and now Governor) are ahead of the voters in supporting marriage equality. But in VT, I think the reverse is true. It seems the people are ready, but the Governor isn't and I haven't yet heard if there's a veto-proof majority in the Legislature.

]]> By: Jaroslaw http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/comment-page-1/#comment-129685 Jaroslaw Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:51:25 +0000 http://www.queerty.com/?p=43231#comment-129685 I'd be willing to bet they'll get SSM in Vermont. My cousin (female) is married to a (male) Justice of the Peace. He doesn't quite understand the Gay thing, but he's married a couple guys. He reflects what seems to be the very tolerant attitude of Vermonters. Or hate of too much government meddling (or both !!!!) :) I'd be willing to bet they'll get SSM in Vermont. My cousin (female) is married to a (male) Justice of the Peace. He doesn't quite understand the Gay thing, but he's married a couple guys. He reflects what seems to be the very tolerant attitude of Vermonters. Or hate of too much government meddling (or both !!!!) :)

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