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Wow! Nine states with three in the wings to allow. You do realize, of course, that when the “magic” number of 15 (approx.) states is reached, there will never be an amendment to the Constitution to ban same sex marriage nationwide, because it takes 2/3 of the states to ratify an amendment and that would mean 35 (approx.) states must vote to amend. I seriously doubt that will happen at this point. Congratulations on this remarkable milestone!
Dakotahgeo, M.Div. Pastor/Chaplain
The way that equality has been snowballing has been unreal. I never thought I’d see marriage equality in my lifetime. Maybe domestic partnerships recognized on a federal level is the most I’d hoped for.
This was all made possible by the (at the time) fringe gay activists that wouldn’t listen to the HRC, it’s because of people being brave enough to be out and proud, it’s because of young people and their realization that it’s no big deal. Mostly it’s because of our straight allies who recognize right from wrong, and in spite of the fact that it doesn’t effect them directly, they still are fighting with us for change.
@Dakotahgeo: Actually, there are four states in the wings…
Rhode Island, Delaware, Illinois and Minnesota. That would be 13, 2 more to go to defeat the 2/3 clause to amend the Constitution. I believe DOMA is bound to fall, and California will be another gift in our favor. Hmmm… happy, happy, joy, joy!
GOD, I am SO proud to be a Washingtonian. I live in one of the first three states to get marriage equality by popular vote, and the very FIRST state to actually implement it in December of 2013.
I remember feeling angry, frustrated and saddened when the %^&#ing zealots got enough hateful signatures to force the referendum back in June of 2012. But now I am SO GLAD that they did. We won’t be getting any version of Proposition 8 here, because the people have already spoken. And the MILLIONS that NOM and the AFA and the Mormon Church, etc, poured the campaign against Referendum 74 was a complete waste. Its gone and they will never get it back. HA!
@Dakotahgeo: To be honest, I don’t see Illinois, Hawaii, Delaware, Colorado or New Jersey , all who have Civil Unions at this point, ever voting in favor of an amendment to ban same-sex marriage. That, with Rhode Island puts us at 15 in favor of either Civil Unions or full marriage equality. Let’s hope the snowball grows even bigger over the next few years.
Yes, I don’t see why full equality can’t be realized, Two Males should be able to make Children together like the opposite sex. Can’t they just legislate it to happen. How many States did you mention that can make it Happen? Surely that is attainable. Maybe not tomorrow but just maybe a Trillion years from now, maybe. Well it is certainly something to look forward to. Cross your fingers. Pity.
Old, tired, debunked argument. Move along.
@alterego1980: Thank you, alterego. I was probably thinking wishfully, lolol. Unfortunately, my glass always seems half full, but wouldn’t it be nice if…! But yes, the snowball indeed growth bigger! :-) Kudos!
@daniwitz13: We are talking about marriage equality, not reproductive equality. Pull your head out of your dark tunnel, if you know what I mean.
@DarkZephyr: (Sighhh… with smiles) Thank you, DarkZephyr!!!
Just because a state has marriage equality that doesn’t mean its people and/or a future republican legislative majority wouldn’t vote to ratify a federal Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. I think Iowa would be particularly vulnerable still. However, I’m pretty sure that ship sailed 15 plus years ago and there’s no chance more than say 20-25 states would ever get on board with a US Constitutional gay marriage ban now. Bush tried to go that route in 2006 and it didn’t get anywhere in the Republican led Congress.
The inevitability of marriage for all is plain to see. If I were any of the “holdout states” I’d hurry to hop in the bandwagon. It’s been proved over and over by the Williams Institute that there are big bucks to be had for states in which marriage can be done. Why are those “other” states allowing those big bucks to escape their boundaries?
PS: This of course is secondary to the question: Why are those “other states” being so blind to the inequality they foster?
@Ottoman: Thank you for your comment. One of the strongest arguments pro Same-sex marriage coming out of the 9th Circuit Court was the fact that once marriage rights are voted on and made law, legally, a state cannot take those rights away, no matter how the Legislature tips, or in what direction (unless, of course, the law is found unconstitutional… in CA’s case, that isn’t going to happen!). That, plus other strong arguments FOR the dismissal of Prop 8 will probably be the legal backbreaker for DOMA and Prop 8 (in CA’s favor, but not other states). Your remarks are spot on the mark!
Moron-i-witz (aka danowitz) IS doing the same tired old “arguement.” He starts with a truly STUPID [but un-said] premise (which we’re supposed to fall for), that Marriage is Solely to Make Children. Well maybe that WAS the premise if we were still tribe members (as in, 2,000 years ago), back when women were property (like Camels) and you only “owned” them to create your (male, hope hope hope) heirs.
THAT is the Evangelical premise (for Patriarchal Catholics, Protestants, Jews and Muslims) — that we can go back to the “good old days” when men were men and women were OWNED.
THEN, from that asinine “premise,” he assumes that gay men want to be married so they can somehow biologically “have” children. Obviously his tiny little mind is all turned around in its britches about that prospect, which he then relegates to science fiction (“trillions of years from now.”)
Maybe we can find a time machine and send this cretin back to the Middle East a couple thousand years ago; if he’s lucky he’ll materialize there the Big Tribal Chief that drives his goofy, bigoted “premise” — and not a slave, or god forbid, a woman. (Eek)
In other words, folks, we must NEVER “accept” or “argue with” such absurd PREMISES. Instead, just source them and CALL THEM OUT. Then they fall apart into the stupidly anachronictic male-chauvinist and homophobic “ideas” that they really are (were).
A stroll down memory lane. It’s amazing how much changed in just a few months.
The list should probably also include New Mexico. You can get married there, but just not in every county.
I live in a state with marriage equality, but can’t even find a date. :(
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Wow, my comment from yesterday is already obsolete. You can now get married throughout New Mexico.
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congrats to ALL those states wake’n up and hopp’n on board the homo train!
Without further “adieu”????? What illiterate moron composed this?
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