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STUDY: Two More Cases That Prove That Ex-Gay Therapy Is A Crock

A recent online survey of 1,600 gay Mormons conducted by Utah State University revealed that about 65 percent underwent ex-gay therapy and 86 percent considered such therapy unhelpful or harmful. Another revelation: Sergio Viula, founder of Brazilian evangelical ex-gay group Movement for the Healthy Sexuality (MOSES), has just come out as still 100 percent gay. He even revealed what really happens in ex-gay therapy programs—hint: it involves fasting and having sex with men.

In an interview with Flying Teapot, Viula says that MOSES merely told gays to “isolate from your former circle of friends, start attend[ing] church meetings, go through counseling sessions, pray, fast, and stuff like that.” Meanwhile, “Nobody really quit being gay. There were relationships even within the group, between an activity and another, they would always find time for that.”

We’d find a bunch of closeted Christian dudes having guilty gay sex with each other hot if it weren’t actually depressing as hell.

But add these revelations alongside former Love in Action Executive Director John Smid’s recent admission that he’s never met an actual ex-gay and you have a system quickly of mental abuse crumbling at an accelerating rate before your very eyes.

Now only if we could get parents to stop sending their kids to secret ex-gay bootcamps.

By:           Daniel Villarreal
On:           Nov 4, 2011
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  • 18 Comments
    • cody
      cody

      I always wanted to infiltrate one of those camps and fuck everyone, “counselors”, “patients”, janitors EVERYONE!

      Nov 4, 2011 at 8:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chipsy
      Chipsy

      Yep and he quit believing in God too. Where are the ex-ex-gays who are still Christians?

      Nov 5, 2011 at 9:14 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • divkid
      divkid

      @cody:lol, i hear ya, dawg!
      it’s that damn emotional vulnerability — makes ya wanna violate the bejeesus outta them.
      does that make me a bad person? ; P

      Nov 5, 2011 at 12:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • RT
      RT

      Again, yes, let’s put all the hormonally-raging young gay men together in a facility. What a great way to make sure the participants are staying clear from stimuli. I mean, even as a purely psychiatric point of view, how is this a sound treatment plan?

      Nov 5, 2011 at 12:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • iDavid
      iDavid

      I’d love to see Chi Chi Le Rue do a send-up porn flick as an ex gay camp leader.

      Nov 5, 2011 at 1:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Little Kiwi
      Little Kiwi

      you gotta love how the ex-gay movement essentially is saying “God doesn’t care about war, famine, rape or young children dying from disease. God cares that a bunch of gay dudes instead develop a taste for pussy”

      it’d be hilarious were it not so insulting.

      Nov 5, 2011 at 2:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kylew
      kylew

      I think that it’s high time that society made it illegal to send under 18s to such therapy groups. Surely this must count as abuse?

      But of course, children are property, so the law dare not intervene in child-rearing except in the most exreme cases…

      Nov 5, 2011 at 9:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tazz602
      tazz602

      Chipsy – You aren’t going to find many ex-ex-gays who are still active Christians – as someone who has been thru that, quite simply we end up so disillusioned about what people have done to us “in God’s name” that it’s hard for us to commit to a God or church where for all our lives it has been the institution that has demonized who we are. We have seen the hypocrisy or people and been involved in it ourselves and quite frankly that is all we can see when we see the Church or anything involved with it. I still believe, but I do not go to church, I don’t think anyone or any religion has a clue to who or what “god” really is.

      Nov 6, 2011 at 1:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tazz602
      tazz602

      Chipsy – You aren’t going to find many ex-ex-gays who are still active Christians – as someone who has been thru that, quite simply we end up so disillusioned about what people have done to us “in God’s name” that it’s hard for us to commit to a God or church where for all our lives it has been the institution that has demonized who we are. We have seen the hypocrisy of people and been involved in it ourselves and quite frankly that is all we can see when we see the Church or anything involved with it. I still believe, but I do not go to church, I don’t think anyone or any religion has a clue to who or what “god” really is.

      Nov 6, 2011 at 1:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tazz602
      tazz602

      Sorry for the duplicate – there was an error when I posted

      Nov 6, 2011 at 1:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • iDavid
      iDavid

      @tazz602

      I would think after going through that sitch, one might become more of a distilled Christian, knowing God is not the devil as the Bible writers accidently put forth, but really love and peace only, like his “son” Jesus represents. “The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree” kinda says it. I think God is more pissed the Bible writers inserted their own lies and prejudices than anything. Do u find you have more compassion for the negative people being brainwashed now?

      Nov 6, 2011 at 1:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JonnyDonny29
      JonnyDonny29

      does anyone else find it odd/amusing that there are christians(not all) that will say that many rules in the bible like the ones in laviticus are out dated and give up on those rules completely, but for some reason they wont give up on the gay rule?

      Nov 7, 2011 at 3:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brian
      Brian

      @Chipsy: Perhaps they are smarter than one would give them credit for, if they gave up not only being ex-gay, but also religion? I mean, both are just myths…

      Nov 7, 2011 at 3:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • iDavid
      iDavid

      @Jonnydonny29

      What is “the gay rule”? Gays have a lot if rules.

      Nov 7, 2011 at 4:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JonnyDonny29
      JonnyDonny29

      @iDavid: Sorry, i was just refering to the christians who refer to the bible saying “the bible says that homosexuality is wrong”. Those same christians will say that some passages like the ones in Leviticus (eating shell fish, wearing mixed fabrics, cutting the hair infront of your ears, slavery) are out dated/should not be followed. So why is it okay to claim that “no shell fish” is outdated but ok to allow the “no homosexuality”. (again i didnt say all christians. there are some who are fine with homosexuality and then there are ones that arent).

      Nov 7, 2011 at 8:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • iDavid
      iDavid

      Ah yes I know what you mean. I used to be Catholic and there was a rule that eating meat on Friday was a sin. People did it anyway and there wasn’t a civil rights movement for cows over it. It was like, this rule is just plain stupid.

      I think homosexuality is such a tidal wave issue even w/o religion, that people just take Leviticus to add icing to the cake, so they can somehow rationalize their own inner terror about homos, that weird thing they just can’t understand. When people are too different, they are bound to be stigmatized, because it’s hard for people to rationalize something they know nothing about. In time their inner disgust will reduce and things will smooth out, but until then, we hang onto our sanity best we can.

      Nov 7, 2011 at 8:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dallas David
      Dallas David

      @Chipsy: I’ll bet there are more ex-Christians who are gay than there are ex-gays who are Christian.

      Nov 9, 2011 at 11:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sergio Viula
      Sergio Viula

      Brazilian ex-gay ministry founder releases provocative free e-book: http://www.foradoarmario.net/#!/2012/01/in-search-of-myself-free-e-book-version.html

      Jan 22, 2012 at 11:08 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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