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Subway Sacks Gay Porn Actor, Said Actor Plans Boycott


Many of you may know Kurt Wild from his work in such classics as My Brother’s Hot Friend and Young, Dumb & Hung, but the St. Louis-based 22-year old also made a living toiling at popular sandwich chain Subway. That is, until Subway, which prides itself on its foot longs, found out about Wild’s gay porn gigs. .

Writes Wild:

I just wanted to tell everyone that I was just fired from my work at subway because I have done gay porn. A customer said they wouldn’t even eat there at subway anymore because of my past work and said that if I wasn’t fired then they would boycott the store. What I say is, if one person can try to ruin me everywhere I work… maybe I should take a stand and boycott their store too if they can’t let people’s privacy be treated right.

I should have the right to work anywhere I can and it isn’t right or fair that people can keep me from working simply because of a “gay” issue. If a girl did what we do it would probably be ok.. and if a guy does straight porn.. he is bragged about. When I do gay porn, I feel a bit lynched for the rest of my life.

Alright, being fired from Subway is not the same as being lynched. Regardless, we appreciate your boycott, but must say you’re probably better off not slinging meat for strangers.

By:           Andrew Belonksy
On:           Sep 9, 2008
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  • 75 Comments
    • Qjersey
      Qjersey

      Obviously amateur porn doesn’t pay. The only person making money is the owner of the site.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 9:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alexa
      Alexa

      How did the offended customer even know he had done gay porn? Wouldn’t he have had to have seen some of his movies to know this?

      Sep 9, 2008 at 9:36 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jon Claren
      Jon Claren

      Actually Kurt on his blog site self identifies as straight. Apparently he also has fathered a child and has a girlfriend. He is hotter than anything Subway can serve up.

      It’s a sad comment that straight female porn stars can make a good living in the business whereas successful gay male porn stars have to supplement their income working at fast food outlets.

      It brings knew meaning to the Subway question: Would like our six inch or foot long?

      Sep 9, 2008 at 9:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • HATER
      HATER

      I love Kurt Wild and I hate Sub(standard)way. I say we all boycott!

      Solidarity!

      Sep 9, 2008 at 10:48 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Darth Paul
      Darth Paul

      I’m loveless for “straight” actors who do gay porn, no matter how hot they are. And that lynched comment is just ignorant. I dismiss.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 10:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tallskin
      tallskin

      Hmmm, an interesting question might be to ask why the customer who complained considered this boy unclean to serve food?? The answer has to lie in the twisted, fucked-up, view of sex and morality of the sky pixie religions (judiasm, christianity and islam) where a person’s overall worth and morality is judged based on his sexual behaviour. ie gay bad, straight good.

      and witness the current mad obsession with gay sex in the christian churches to the detriment of issues around poverty and starvation.

      Weird shit . I shall never understand sky pixie worshippers and their stupid moral codes.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 10:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dubwise
      Dubwise

      Darth Paul
      Yes…lynched may have gone a bit too far.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 11:04 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kari b
      Kari b

      Hey LOGO. Here’s a reality show waiting to happen.

      Everything you do comes with consequences good or bad.
      I think once this generation comes to “power” all this will become foolishness anyway. This generation has created so many skeletons for themselves that anyone who doesn’t have them will be considered abnormal in the future. It’s a good thing

      Sep 9, 2008 at 11:09 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ousslander
      ousslander

      Lynched is very extreme. It was his descision to do porn so now live with the consequences good or bad.
      I don’t think he was fired for being gay but for doing PORN.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 11:19 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • John Santos
      John Santos

      Darth Paul is correct on all points.

      I don’t appreciate a het with a girlfriend trying to use discrimination against real LGBTQ’s as a reason to keep his shitty job. Nor do I like this hosebag trying to equate doing porn with the violence that blacks and gays suffer.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 11:22 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rsquared
      Rsquared

      This guy comes across as a bit of a lug-nut.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 11:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • gregg
      gregg

      Does anyone have any pre-Subway Jared Fogle bear porn to post?

      Sep 9, 2008 at 11:50 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      I’m not sure why he is surprised. This is the very reason many people don’t do porn, it comes back to “Excuse the phrase” bite you in the ass later. I’m sure LOTS of women would love the money but who wants to be a 35 year old Kindergarten teacher who gets fired for doing porn ten years earlier.

      I don’t think he deserved to get fired, but he shouldn’t be surprised. Trust me, if some female porn star was slinging her meat at Subway she would most likely have been fired too, rightly or wrongly.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 11:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      P.S. Man gay porn must not pay ANYTHING if he’s working at Subway.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 11:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • John
      John

      I think there is more to the story. He should find an attorney — maybe a local LGBT organization can help. He wouldn’t be the first case of a restaurant worker fired over a gay/aids panic sort of thing. A big franchise like Subway should have guidelines for franchisees. If they don’t, they ought get them, even if it takes legal action to motivate them.

      As for the job of Subway, I feel bad for the guy. Maybe he’s not the brains of Missouri and it would be challenging, but I bet he could make a lot more tending bar.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 11:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Alan down in Florida
      Alan down in Florida

      I agree with John. What possible legal basis can Subway have for the firing. I can’t imagine you have to sign a morals clause to work at fast food dumps. Besides he could make more peddling his as to buyers with real purchasing power.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 12:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      Can’t wait till that happens Kari B. Obviously by the responses here so far many posters belong to older generations. Step down, enjoy your golden years and stop f#ck!ng with the world with your priggish lame bigoted views!

      Sep 9, 2008 at 12:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PearlsBeforeSwine
      PearlsBeforeSwine

      So, he is married and has three kids, but he acts in gay porn and takes it up the butt. He sez he responds to masculine energy. I think the correct term would be bisexual.

      Ron Jeremy has become sort of a star so I think this is about the fact that it is gay porn. But Kurt Wild is not the first person to face gay porno prejudice. At least his wife knew.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 12:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dubwise
      Dubwise

      CHURCHILL-Y
      Let’s not get started here on who has bigoted views. You’d be first on the list.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 12:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tallskin
      tallskin

      DUB-WISE

      I think Churchill-Y is pure and diamond intense in his homophobia detection without being distracted by issues around race.

      Exactly like me.

      This is a gay site, not a race issues site, so discussions about bigotry are and should be, only related to anti-gay issues. Hence when he refers to bigotry he is referring, as I do, to anti gay dickheads.

      You and your brethren seem to think the race and gay issues are the same. They are not. At least not for me.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 12:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dubwise
      Dubwise

      tallskin
      First off, Churchill-Y may have great detection of homophobia..and that’s great, but he has along history of bigoted statements on queerty threads.

      Secondly, I made no allusion or reference to racist bigotry and homphobic bigotry being the same. I was merely commenting on Churchill-y racist rants here on queerty.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 12:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • KG
      KG

      Kurt’s a really nice guy. He’s sweet and genuine. Yes, he’s straight and has three kids, but he’s not like a lot of “gay-for-pay” guys who are snobby around gay guys and demand to be worshipped. I’ve been on set with him during porn shoots, I’ve hung out with him off set, and he really is a genuinely nice guy.

      Yes, actions have consequences, but in what way does doing porn of any kind impact his ability to work at Subway? It’s not like there’s a conflict of interest working for a direct competitor (and since he’s not doing their marketing or developing their secret recipes, even that conflict of interest allegation wouldn’t stand). He’s not hiding anything from his wife, Subway’s customers are in no way at risk, so why the hell is it Subway’s business what he does on his own time?

      So many gay guys seem so viciously hypocritical – they get off on gay porn but then denigrate the guys who do it. I’m not saying porn performers should be worshipped, as some guys do, but don’t treat them as subhuman either. They’re doing a job in the entertainment industry, period. Maybe it’s a job I couldn’t/wouldn’t do, but there are tons of jobs I can’t do and that doesn’t make the jobs bad, just not right for me.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 12:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jorge
      Jorge

      I’m 22 and it has nothing to do with younger/older generation. This guy is an idiot thinking that there aren’t going to be consequences. If you are going to do porn you run the risk of having it catch up with you. Get a real job/

      Sep 9, 2008 at 12:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jenna's Bush
      Jenna's Bush

      If you are going to do porn you run the risk of having it catch up with you. Get a real job/

      And if you fire employees that have done porn, then you should be prepared for people who don’t hold such antiquated views to boycott your business.

      He tried to “get a real job” and look what happened.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 12:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      O plz, Dubwise give it a rest!

      Jorge, deprogram yourself. Doing or having done porn should not in no way interfere with a “real job” unless the people employing you hold on to antiquated prudish or religious views. Which of the two do you hold? Can’t believe you’re 22 and see no problem with firing someone for having done porn.
      Unless they are promoting their work or talking about it which I doubt it’s something many do. And if someone recognizes them and complains the only thing it should be taken into account is that the person who identifies them was obviously watching porn and enjoying their work. Bunch of hypocrites. I see no reason for bringing it up let alone firing them, period.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 12:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • dvlaries
      dvlaries

      This is why I was jumping-up-and-down mad in the fifth season of Queer As Folk when they depicted Emmett getting a high-profile job on a major Pittsburgh TV station as a Queer Eye-style commentator. This came just three years after he made himself famous in the same town as an award-winning web-porn star named Fetch Dixon. We were asked to believe the TV station just threw him on the air with no background check, and that no mischievous fan, not only didn’t recognize him, but hadn’t saved any downloads of him jerking off for a web camera, ready to send to the tabloids or competing stations in town. (Bad timing too; the Jeff Gannon White House scandal had just broke a few months before that dreadful last season of the show began.)

      We love porn in this country, spend at least nine figures annually consuming it, and woe to any fool who tries to restrict our access to it. However, most of us forget our normal breathing rhythms at the suggestion of anyone we know and love WORKing in that industry. The eternal question we collectively -as a citizenry- refuse (and maybe cannot) settle is, there either IS something wrong with this stuff or there ISN’T. Thus, while it isn’t fair and shouldn’t happen, the discovery that you once made a living fucking in front of a camera, yes, can and will cost you a mainstream job, like making Subways or coaching sports in a middle school in Virginia. Ask Ty Fox.

      At the same time, in its quest for legitimacy (not the same thing as profit) with all other forms of entertainment, and that it sometimes kids itself it already has, the porn business has not, in our lifetimes, produced a spokesperson so eloquent as to convince middle America this is something perfectly okay for its children to grow up to do. And all of our favorites WERE once someone’s children. No newly minted mom in a maternity ward, handed her newborn, then dreams out loud that he or she will one day grow up to win Best Anal Threesome.

      We’ll know the porn industry has achieved the legitimacy of any other business when, for instance, stars such as Jenna Jameson or Jeff Stryker, under whatever their real names are, have streets named after them in the towns they grew up.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 12:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jaroslaw
      Jaroslaw

      There must be a lot of people with truly blessed lives, no problems or unfairness ever enters in. (I’m directing this comment to the folks who stated in other words that Subway can’t fire someone for doing porn.)

      No they can’t. They just have to get you for being tardy twice. Or making too many sandwich errors. Or not getting along with a co-worker. Bad attitude. There are a million reasons to fire someone.

      Yes, lynched was an extreme comment, but lets not be too hard on the boy. He did porn and now works at Subway to he probably doesn’t have a top notch education like all the people who post here.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 1:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • seitan-on-a-stick
      seitan-on-a-stick

      I hear the personal pizzas at Subway are quite delicious! Maybe porn stars need to unionize (since 99.9%* of Gays work in that industry now!)

      * Denotes plus or minus points of 50-95% margin of error (statistically speaking) of likely voting Porn-stars who work at Subway (but have not tried the new delicious personal pizza) but have a Footlong!

      Sep 9, 2008 at 1:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Distingué Traces
      Distingué Traces

      I’m sorry, but this guy is WAY to boy-next-door-y to use the name of Ewan MacGregor’s character in Velvet Goldmine.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 1:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • D. Campbell
      D. Campbell

      Curt is 22 and has three children? When did he start making babies when he was 16 (given a year between births)?

      Most male porn stars are paid “per scene.” Do the math – a few hundred bucks for internet sex, a wife and three hungry kids, minimum wage at SUBWAY? This guy needs a telethon to make ends meet!!

      Sep 9, 2008 at 1:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PearlsBeforeSwine
      PearlsBeforeSwine

      The porn industry is in a recession. But they are on schedule to make 15,000 new videos this year, adding to a glut of DVDs and downward price pressure.

      Part of the issue is how the internet has changed business. Why buy a video or magazine when you can get it for free?

      Sep 9, 2008 at 1:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • EdWoody
      EdWoody

      Kurt is one of the biggest sweethearts in the industry, and for all you straight-bashers, all you need to do is watch one of his movies to see how much he enjoys sex with men, regardless of how he lives his life or his off-screen relationships. In fact, he is one of my favourite performers of recent years, and I fully support him in this, not the self-loathing queen who got him fired.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 1:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mark
      mark

      PUH LEEEEZE, a straight woman porn star could press hamburger patties flatter with her thighs, and shoot straws out he snatch, and no male customer would say sh*t…she’d probably be carrying her tips home in a Mercedes.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 2:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mark
      mark

      he = her

      Sep 9, 2008 at 2:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • joe
      joe

      I sent my comments to Subway. They crossed the line.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 3:27 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CertainPOV
      CertainPOV

      I very rarely comment in this forum, but there were a few things that I wanted to touch on.

      I wondered if someone could explain to me the difference between losing your job because you are gay and losing your job because you are perceived to be gay? Does being straight make the discriminatory action any less real?

      Yes, he may have made the decision to perform in the porn industry, but it was nonetheless a legal job that is not a criminal offense. Should someone think twice if their dream is to be a Sunday school teacher or an FBI agent? Probably. But I hardly think even the most wizened of us would expect it to be a prohibition for a sandwich maker. If it is at so Subway, then we should all sleep soundly at night knowing that there will also not be any convicted felons or rapists working there.

      My last thought is this: If you’re 22-years old and supporting a family of five on minimum wage and you’ve just lost your job for nothing you’ve done wrong in the workplace but because of a another part-time legal job, then yes, you probably might well feel that you’ve been lynched. Let’s not beat this young man up for emotional use of hyperbole.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 3:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rick
      rick

      i would have said the same thing if i found ron jeremy or jenna jamison behind the counter. i mean really now.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 7:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rick
      rick

      “but have not tried the new delicious personal pizza”

      i don’t think we have those here in my little town yet. we were in just a week and a half ago. i like the grilled chicken on the foot long $5.00 menu.

      i would not want to be served a sandwich by a guy doing the things i have seen kurt do. or a woman. sorry but that is just ooky.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 7:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • rick
      rick

      “and for all you straight-bashers, all you need to do is watch one of his movies to see how much he enjoys sex with men,”

      that sounds pretty gay to me!

      Sep 9, 2008 at 7:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • marc
      marc

      JUST SUE FUCKING SUBWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even if the state he’s in doesn’t have gay supportive laws, he would get a great deal of publicity. I don’t know if he’s gay or straight and really don’t care, but the firing was discriminatory and to me thats all that is important.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 8:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • HATER
      HATER

      Rick wrote:

      “i would not want to be served a sandwich by a guy doing the things i have seen kurt do.”

      This is where you and I differ. I would happily eat that sandwich off of his ass! …and then eat his ass! LOL

      Sep 9, 2008 at 8:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • KG
      KG

      “i would not want to be served a sandwich by a guy doing the things i have seen kurt do. or a woman. sorry but that is just ooky.”

      Ummm, Rick … in this case, you get a chance to see some of the things he does …. but shouldn’t you assume that other servers also engage in all sorts of stuff with the cameras off? I mean, it’s not like we have laws requiring washing your hands before serving food or anything.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 8:29 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cody
      Cody

      It’s funny that people are talking about the “consequences” of gay porn. What consequences? Helping people get off by making their fantasy a bit more real? Come on! There are no consequences of gay porn – only consequences of a fucked up, scared-of-sexuality society.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 9:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Steve
      Steve

      Sounds like a really good reason to boycott Subway.

      Actually, we haven’t eaten there for a very long time anyway, since my lover absolutely hates the food. But their food is supposed to be healthy.

      So now we have a politically correct reason not to eat it.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 9:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Good Girl
      Good Girl

      i have always prefered Blimpie anyway. Never understood how Jared lost all that weight eating at subway. it’s all carbs!

      Sep 9, 2008 at 10:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PearlsBeforeSwine
      PearlsBeforeSwine

      @26 – CertainPOV

      Regarding the difference between treatment of gay people and presumed gay people: Long ago gay people would be beaten or stabbed while walking the streets of Washington DC, which was frequently reported in the Washington Blade (the local gay newspaper) but never in The Washington Post. Then a straight man was mugged while walking his dogs by attackers shouting anti-gay statements and The Post covered the story.

      The moral of this story is that gay people should expect to be beaten but it is a tragedy when it happens to heterosexuals. Of course, times have changed a bit.

      Just, a few years back a black man was killed by racists who put chains around the victims legs and drug him behind a truck until he was dead. The Post covered the story on the front page of the paper the next day, plus it was featured prominently on virtually all news outlets. It was a story that shocked the nation. Later in that same week an attacker entered a gay bar in SW Virginia and killed three people while shouting anti-gay statements. The Washington Post did cover this story, three days later on the back pages of the local news section.

      Remember, The Washington Post is supposedly a liberal paper. But gay lives are just not worth as much as straight lives.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 10:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PearlsBeforeSwine
      PearlsBeforeSwine

      Sorry, the question by CertainPOV was @36.

      Sep 9, 2008 at 11:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • michael
      michael

      If it is not illegal to make porn films then it should not of affected his employment at subway. America is becoming such a fascist country in that anyone and anything is fair game that does not adhere to the morals of the christian reich. I will no longer eat at Subway because of this, in fact I stopped and got a sandwich there
      tonight and now I want to go back to the store and puke it up their
      cash register. I know I will pass this along to the gay media here in Vancouver so that other gay people can have the opportunity to make there views known and not eat at this establishment, which ironically has a store right in the middle of the Gay village here.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 12:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • michael
      michael

      If it is not illegal to make porn films then it should not of affected his employment at subway. America is becoming such a fascist country in that anyone and anything is fair game that does not adhere to the morals of the christian reich. I will no longer eat at Subway because of this, in fact I stopped and got a sandwich there
      tonight and now I want to go back to the store and puke it up their
      cash register. I know I will pass this along to the gay media here in Vancouver so that other gay people can have the opportunity to make there views known and not eat at this establishment, which ironically has a store right in the middle of the Gay village here.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 12:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • michael
      michael

      If it is not illegal to make porn films then it should not of affected his employment at subway. America is becoming such a fascist country in that anyone and anything is fair game that does not adhere to the morals of the christian reich. I will no longer eat at Subway because of this, in fact I stopped and got a sandwich there
      tonight and now I want to go back to the store and puke it up their
      cash register. I know I will pass this along to the gay media here in Vancouver so that other gay people can have the opportunity to make there views known and not eat at this establishment, which ironically has a store right in the middle of the Gay village here.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 12:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mark
      mark

      Since I’ve eaten twice in 55 years at a Subway, my boycotting them takes no effort on my part.
      Go eat at McDonalds and p*ss off the AFA, the simple pleasures are the BEST, and they go great with a side of fries.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 2:34 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • marcus
      marcus

      I cannot believe the judgemental self righteous faggs that are throwing out the word “consequences” Do any of you morons know what the consequences are to being gay? Your considered by a huge amount of people to be a pervert, no better than a child molester. But don’t cry about the consequences of your own perversions when you don’t know why you were not hired for a job though you were certain that you were the best candidate. Or don’t cry victim because your neighbors hide there children when your in sight. After all its just what you get for being a big old homosexual now isn’t it? The U.S. is so full of this Jesus Fucking Christ Cancer that it even pervades the minds of gay people. Americans always need someone to look down upon in order to make themselves feel superior and obviously it has not skipped the gay community if these comments are any indication. Most civilized western nations have learned to show some respect to even those in the sex trades. Here in Canada people are never referred to as “whores:
      and “hookers”. They are called sex workers and people here are concerned for their welfare and well being. America is such a fucking shit hole, no wonder the world has such disdain. It is any wonder that the gay rights movement in the United States is so far behind and moves at a snails pace, your just like the people you fight against. I fall on my knees everyday and thank the Gods I don’t have to live there anymore.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 4:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dan
      Dan

      personally i think alot of people need to wake up and smell the roses. I’m not talking sepcifically about this case, but jsut in general.

      So many people do things (stupid/embarrasing/ or otherwise) that become widespread and easily accesible.

      People don’t think about this nor do they think about what sort of trouble it might cause them further down the track.

      personally, if you are afraid/embarresed to tell your neighbors and workmates about what your doing don’t let it get filmed.

      and i don’t think sexuality was in issue in this respect, well at least not specifically. Alot of companies will discriminate against people that have videos on the internet of them doing things that do not promote the image the company wants.

      I think anyone who does porn, get video taped doing violence or abusing people will find it alot harder to find work.

      i don’t think it should be a fireable offence if it was somethign that was done in the past, but if people are doing those sort of activities while they are workign for another company… welll thats up to the employer.

      A similar issue was brought up in one of the early season four episodes in boston legal.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 11:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kari b
      Kari b

      The idea of acknowledging there are consequences and being responsible for you own action means you no longer are the victim.

      If I walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town and not expect something to happen would be ludicrous. However if I knowingly walk with the chance that something bad could happen I’m better prepared for it

      I think it is incredibly naive to think any action you take don’t come with consequences. Good or bad. YOu can’t tell me this kid didn’t know there would be repercussions for what he did. Yes its a bad thing to be fired from you job for being gay but you also have to realize being and doing anything in life comes with consequences.

      Hangovers are a perfect consequence. Sure getting drunk or high is fun but it not something your body needs or wants so it does what it has to in order to clean out the toxins

      Same with eating junk food. your body responded with consequences.

      Try taking responsibility for you actions and see how much freedom it gives you.
      I take full responsibility for being gay and know the consequences with being gay an accept the fact I may not be hired or parents hide their kids. That’s their problem. I’m not whining about it.

      And in closing

      Consequences

      I thought one more couldn’t hurt.

      BTW I ready for the repercussions for this post. (see I know another word)

      Sep 10, 2008 at 11:07 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kari b
      Kari b

      I ain’t posting about this anymore. I’ve said my piece. I think he’s better suited for Subway anyway. This may be the thing that gives him his higher calling and passion and that is not to say porn doesn’t

      Sep 10, 2008 at 11:10 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jaroslaw
      Jaroslaw

      Dan & Kari B – no one is suggesting that there are no consequences for one’s actions. The idea here is (A) making porn is perfectly legal (and Dan, on what evidence are you basing your “if you are embarassed to tell your neighbors don’t film it” comment? There is nothing in his statement implicit or explicit that says he’s embarrassed).

      And since it is legal, one shouldn’t be fired from subsequent jobs because of it. And I would further say why does it have to be in the past to be okay with you Dan? As long as it doesn’t interfere with the current job, I say what I do in my private time is none of the 9-5 pm jobs business!

      and (B) There has been strong evidence that homosexual activities of all sorts are subject to much more scrutiny and harsher penalties than heterosexual ones.

      THAT is the problem. Not that people are trying to escape consequences for things for which there ARE legitimate consequences. This story is not (or shouldn’t be anyway) one of them.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 11:24 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kari b
      Kari b

      @ Jaroslaw

      ‘There has been strong evidence that homosexual activities of all sorts are subject to much more scrutiny and harsher penalties than heterosexual ones.’

      Those are consequences as unfair as they may be and all consequences are legitimate.

      So look at it another way. The consequences of Subway firing him are a potential boycott and some serious bad publicity because of a customer’s complaint. Apparently these consequences are acceptable to managements actions.

      Is it fair that he was fired? Of course not; but it is what it is and he has to take some of the responsibility for it.

      That’s all I was saying.

      Oh and before I forget I have to say porn is great thing. I enjoy it immensely It wouldn’t prevent me from hiring anyone but I understand how it might

      Sep 10, 2008 at 11:55 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jaroslaw
      Jaroslaw

      Kari B

      “Those are consequences as unfair as they may be and all consequences are legitimate”

      We’re probably on the same side, but the above sentence as written I would disagree with. I do not feel all consequences are legitimate. (somehow, I don’t think that is what you meant to write, but if it is, continue reading…) The way the word consequence is used in our society implies justification. Perhaps how you mean it and the dictionary don’t say that, but that is how the vast majority of people view it.

      Try this: I went to Harvard, got all A’s and have yet to get the “consequences” of a high paying job. Unfair? yes. My fault? Maybe – depending on if I don’t dress appropriately for the interview, don’t apply at enough places etc. But that is only partial anaylsis of my initial statement, full doesn’t need to be done to make the point.

      Would anyone ever term it like I just did? (the statement immediately after the “try this” above)?

      Sep 10, 2008 at 12:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jaroslaw
      Jaroslaw

      So, my windbag answer above is trying to say that there should not be any consequences for legal activities.

      If the opposite were the case, the civil rights movement would have never occurred. You might say well, it is unfair that Black people are discriminated against, but life is what it is and (though unfair) if they decide to demonstrate and the KKK beats them up, that is the consequence of their decision.

      Do you see this Kari?

      Sep 10, 2008 at 12:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • seitan-on-a-stick
      seitan-on-a-stick

      Good Girl (who’s probably a Man!) I order the whole wheat footlong and go easy on the Mayo (ya never know with a Pornstar Sandwich Artist!) and it comes out the same way (appetite for porn and food now lost…)

      Jaroslaw, every time you Blog, all I see are the ocean’s waves smashing against rocks. A-minus for the spelling error (you braggard!) with occasional good points! Work on those people skills…Harvey-boy!

      Sep 10, 2008 at 1:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cody
      Cody

      Listen – so the guy wanted to make some extra money…who cares?! We all have sex and his was just on tape. How anti-climactic! The thing is – whether he is gay or straight – he was fired from a job for appearing in gay porn. I doubt that if he had been in straight porn it would have ever even been realized and he’d still be leaving work smelling like that Subway bread every day.

      People hate gays and will do anything they can (look around) to beat us down. We do have power in this society so we should use it. Boycott the fuck out of Subway and write them (eloquently worded, yet still ‘Ima get all bitchy queen on your ass’) nice little emails.

      Hello! Subway = low calorie goodness = queens who want to look good. We are SO their main demographic! :)

      Sep 10, 2008 at 1:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jaroslaw
      Jaroslaw

      Seitan on a stick – You’ve read every single one of my posts and there are only occasionally some points and every single one is waves dashing on the rocks?

      This topic here is hardly worthy of great brain activity but I was trying to get through to Kari B. But why should I bother with apparent geniuses like you on board? I guess I’m wasting my time.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 2:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • CHURCHILL-Y
      CHURCHILL-Y

      So just because there aren’t any uniform laws in this country to protect someone like kurt from being discriminated and fired from a job then that means it was his fault for not conforming to the stupidity and unfairness of the laws or lack of them. That makes sense!

      Boy I hope people like Kari B actually belong to those fading older generations who’s time has come and gone. Even after all the wasteful pain and suffering they have caused or condoned to people like Kurt they still feel the need to rationalize stupid priggish observances and enforcements.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 3:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • PearlsBeforeSwine
      PearlsBeforeSwine

      RE: Kari B @54
      “If I walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town and not expect something to happen would be ludicrous. However if I knowingly walk with the chance that something bad could happen I’m better prepared for it.”

      I don’t quite know what to make of your example because it reminds me of the arguments that were raise against women in earliest years of the women’s liberation movement. if a woman was raped because she was out alone in a “bad part of town” or dressed in a sexually provocative manner, then it was said “she was asking for it” and going a little further “she got what she deserved”. These sorts of arguments were thought of as oppressing women. As I said, I cannot quite connect all the dots here so I don’t a a clear point to make.

      I do know there are a lot of comments about boycotting Subway. This probably was not a corporate decision. Some customer in a St. Louis Subway made a complaint to a manager or assistant manager and Kurt Wild got fired. Subway is a franchise operation and the headquarters probably has no say at all over the hiring practices of individual franchisees. It might make sense to boycott a few Subway locations in St. Louis but a nationwide boycott really isn’t going to change anything.

      Of course, this is not the only recent gay porno story. Don’t forget the college wrestlers. And they are also not acknowledged as gay.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 5:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kari b
      Kari b

      jeeze I think I stirred up some sh*t here.

      To Jaroslaw’s point I may have used the wrong word and I wasn’t referring to the law

      @PearlsBeforeSwine
      As a rape victim (1989) I understand the part I played in the rape.

      All I’m saying is be responsible for your actions and stop saying “poor me”

      I could have easily said , “poor me” and I did until I got real clear (no I’m not a Scientologist) that I lost my power over my life. I got through it.

      @CHURCHILL-Y
      Please refer to reponse No 8 (my original post)

      OK so NOW I’ve said my piece and I ain’t sayin anymore

      Sep 10, 2008 at 5:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Good Girl
      Good Girl

      #53 Dan. Thank you!! You said it well. I work for a major US company and if it came out that I did porn I’m sure that I wouldn’t have a job. I used to work for Logo and as a gay network they wouldn’t even hire people who did porn. They thought it sent the wrong message.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 9:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tonytigger
      tonytigger

      Jaroslaw you argue “As long as it doesn’t interfere with the current job, I say what I do in my private time is none of the 9-5 pm jobs business!” Porn or any film being seen by the public isn’t “private”. It is made for mass consumption. If the guy made a video in the privacy of his home for himself then it is is “private”. I don’t think anyone making a porn video and getting paid for it thinks that it isn’t going to be seen by a large audience.

      Sep 10, 2008 at 9:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jaroslaw
      Jaroslaw

      Tonytigger – what I meant by private (and I can’t believe I have to explain this to you) is TIME AWAY FROM WORK. (capital letters only because there is no “bold” or “underline” here).

      What I do away from my 9-5 office job or factory job is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS.

      Sep 11, 2008 at 8:08 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • marcus
      marcus

      I am loving this “he is no victim” stance. I think someone(s) here taken their black and white thinking and used it to read a few to many Deepak Chopra books. Maybe you also need to learn what a victim really is and is not. What separates a victim from a non-victim is the fact that a victim allows something that happened to them to ruin their life, to choose to live in fear, or use it as an excuse to not move forward. I would not call this person a victim in that he has chosen to make public the fact that he was fired just because someone disapproved of a job, a legal job, that he had done in the past. In other words he is fighting back and not taking it lying down. According to some of your definitions a victim is anyone who has experienced a negative act perpetrated upon them. You act as if nobody should complain or fight back. If your definition held true then black people would still be slaves, there would be no education
      about the holocausts in the world, molested children would be told to shut up and get over it. Of course it is not surprising that he was fired living in the Christian culture that we live in. But I applaud this young man for standing up and doing something about his experience. He has every right to complain and make known his experience. I think Marcus said it pretty well in that we are all at the mercy of the “Christian Reich”. But I suppose we should not complain how we are treated as gay people because after all we reap what we sow by living as homosexuals in a society that morally disapproves of us. We are not victims and we need to accept it and stop complaining.

      Sep 11, 2008 at 1:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jeff
      Jeff

      RE: PearlsBeforeSwine @64

      Even as a franchise, there are certain rules, regulations, and policies that are passed down from Subway headquarters that franchisees must adhere to for joining the franchise.

      Even if Subway headquarters has no specific anti-discrimination policy in place, cases such as these reflect upon them as much as it does the individual store. A nationwide boycott might serve to persuade them to implement or modify current policy.

      Sep 14, 2008 at 12:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Wayne
      Wayne

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      Sep 14, 2008 at 10:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Michael
      Michael

      I love your work, Please can you send me some of your video’s, thank’s (Big Fan) Michael

      Sep 30, 2008 at 2:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Antonio MAGALHAES
      Antonio MAGALHAES

      THE REALLY B-I-G PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT THE UNITED STATES ARE A COUNTRY MADE OUT OF MANY TRIBES THAT KEEP (AND NURTURE) HATRED BETWEEN THEMSELVES. SOCIAL TRIBALISM IS A HEAVY HANDICAP!
      A COUNTRY LIKE THAT CAN NEVER ASPIRE TO BECOME A TRUE LEADER ON A WORLDWIDE BASIS!
      WHERE IS AUTHENTIC MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING?
      AND, FOR THAT MATTER, WHERE IS COMPASSION?
      ALL OF THE ABOVE, OF COURSE, REGARDLESS OF SKIN COLOUR OR SOCIAL & PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUNDS !

      Oct 28, 2008 at 7:32 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
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      Marco

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      Mar 3, 2009 at 6:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Philip Roddy Jr
      Philip Roddy Jr

      I understand your rights has been violated but don’t take it out on all subway resturants.
      I love you Kurt!!!

      Jun 6, 2012 at 3:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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