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Supreme Court Will Probably Rule on Marriage Equality This Week

adj Official CJ RobertsOh, what’s that? A ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court on marriage equality is coming sometime this week? Well, that should be fun.

It’s our own success that’s gotten us into this predicament. The movement has gotten really really good at litigating on marriage equality, which is why we’ve seen a ton of victories in the last few months. And after last week’s win in Virginia, our chances of a full federal victory are looking better than ever.

That’s why a federal court in Virginia has refused to delay the start of marriage in that state. (And possibly for neighboring states as well. Nobody’s quite sure how far the 4th Circuit’s ruling extends.) Marriages are due to begin in VA on Thursday of this week, which has our opponents a little upset. They’ve filed emergency papers with the Supreme Court, asking Chief Justice Roberts to stop gays from marrying before it’s too late.

For his part, Roberts has asked for more briefings, due at the end of the day on Monday. And then he’s likely to rule sometime after that. If we had to gamble on the outcome, we’d guess that he’ll delay the Virginia marriages for a little while, so nobody can get married until the Supreme Court can weigh in. That seems particularly likely now that a judge in Tennessee has ruled against equality, indicating that there is still some difference of opinion on the issue.

But then again, Roberts might surprise us! Hard to predict, those weird justices.

By:           matt baume
On:           Aug 18, 2014
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  • 62 Comments
    • 1EqualityUSA
      1EqualityUSA

      Our popularity contest is getting monotonous. Either we are equal or we are not. The Catholic-5 on the Supreme Court will twist words to fit their beliefs and we are subject to the decisions of nine people, some of whom are flawed. It’s degrading. If they choose that we haven’t the inalienable rights that others in this Country have, then we should pay prorated taxes.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 9:25 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tdx3fan
      tdx3fan

      If Alito or Scalia (forget which) can say no to PA regarding the appeal, I am pretty sure Roberts will say no regarding the stay. He has no rational reason to disagree with the appellate court until SCOTUS decides if they want to even hear a national marriage case. Also, the judge in TN was part of a circuit county court system. It carries very little weight considering the 6th circuit court of appeals already has created a master case by which all cases will be known. If anything, the judge in TN just made the other side look worse because it was so obvious where his “ruling” was coming from (there were enough holes in that logic you could drive a network of trucks through them on appeal).

      Aug 18, 2014 at 9:49 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChgoReason
      ChgoReason

      What will Justice Kennedy do?

      “[His] opinion is the only one that matters.” – Devil Wears Prada

      Aug 18, 2014 at 9:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tdx3fan
      tdx3fan

      I think the most important phrasing on this was part of a musical that was done by a local theater in accompaniment to the GG9 in Akron/Cleveland. “Welcome Ohio to get the Gay Games 9, guess whose winning!” “We ARE!”

      Aug 18, 2014 at 9:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Desert Boy
      Desert Boy

      I sure hope Scalia dies soon so Obama can replace him.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 10:26 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tdx3fan
      tdx3fan

      @Desert Boy: I think he is about one step away from getting committed when he finally finishes going off the deep end.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 10:55 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      They could have avoided this entire mess if they had just had the actual responsibility and professionalism to give an appropriately broad ruling in either the Eddie Windsor or the Prop 8 case.

      Anybody could predict that the court would be flooded with cases because of the narrow rulings they gave on those.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 11:01 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • AtticusBennett
      AtticusBennett

      If so – it’ll be a rough week to be a gay republican, eh? every conversation will be a pathetic knees-on-the-ground plea: “Don’t hate me! I’m not one of those horrible leftist liberal gays that forced the government to make you give up your sincerely held religious belief that we’re worthless sinful sodomite sinners who don’t deserve equality!”

      Aug 18, 2014 at 11:16 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      Again, an example of Gay Marriage Queens failing to see the forest for the trees; of White Queens’ quest for headlines rather than winning the war. Justice Roberts was appointed by George Bush and he was made Chief Justice by George Bush. It is acknowledged by everyone with a brain that George Bush rode anti-gay marriage sentiment to the White House. Gay Marriage is a Roadshow that has helped the Republican Party more than the gay community. Unless of couse, it can be argued that the 100,000 or so lesbians who have married someone of the same sex ARE NOW THE GAY COMMUNITY? I would not be at all surprised is THE SAME SEX MARRIED (all 100,000 of them) are legally acknowledged now a The Gay Community.

      Justice Roberts had no problem fucking up Obama’s swearing in in front of millions of people worldwide. There are no limits on what Roberts is capable of doing

      Aug 18, 2014 at 12:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GreatGatsby2011
      GreatGatsby2011

      @MarionPaige: Do you need a wet-nap for all that sand in your vagina?

      Aug 18, 2014 at 12:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @MarionPaige: said..

      “It is acknowledged by everyone with a brain that George Bush rode anti-gay marriage sentiment to the White House. Gay Marriage is a Roadshow that has helped the Republican Party more than the gay community”
      _____________________-

      I get you have an agenda, but if you are going to lie, you should probably at least come up with a few ridiculously biased links to post to at least ATTEMPT to prove what you are saying.

      Please point out how exactly Marriage has helped the GOP more than the gay community considering the wave of rights that are automatically granted.

      Funny you also try to typical NOM B.S. of trying YET AGAIN to make it about race. Um…..you do realize that blacks get married too don’t you? But thank you for letting us all know that you buy into the stereotype that they don’t.

      And LASTLY, marriage helps poor people more than rich, why? Because rich people can hire lawyers to mimic marriage or to fight against any problems that show up. A poor couple, where one dies, doesn’t have to waste money and time fighting for rights if they are married.

      Your anti-Marriage schtick is the same tired old B.S. that people tried to use to keep DADT and DOMA from being struck down, claiming only wealthy whites cared about those either, even though them being struck down paved the way for most other rights.

      But you know….nice try.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 12:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      There aren’t enough rich people in the US for them to vote a president into office. There aren’t even enough registered Republicans to vote a Republican president into office. The Republican Party relies on hate as an aggregator; hate against Blacks, Hate against immigrants, hate against homosexuals etc. Hate against homosexuals allowed Bush to slip into the White House and appoint Roberts chief justice. And, the handful of White Queens pimping gay marriage had to have known that The Republican Party was using the gay marriage issue to fan hate against homosexuals. AND NOW, now that the fucking Supreme Court has an anti-gay composition AS A RESULT OF short term sighted White Queens, NOW the queens are looking to that bigoted Court for sympathy.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 1:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      the closest thing to a national gay election is the number of gay men who have not legally married someone of the same sex. AND YET, even with the numbers showing that gay men don’t give a shit about gay marriage. STILL the White Gay Marriage Fucktards are pimping it as if it is a gay issue. Gay Men Don’t Give A Shit About Marriage. No matter how many NYT articles there are pimping gay marriage and no matter how many Washington Post articles there are pimping marriage, the national gay community had voted NO on gay marriage by the fact that, essentially, no way is gay marrying.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 1:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @MarionPaige:

      But see, the issue is, you keep lying.

      First you claim that gay marriage has done more to help the GOP, even though the last several local elections, as well as the last presidential election had the Dems winning and taking back seats.

      NOW here you are trying to claim that because every single gay guy out there hasn’t gotten married it means that gays don’t give a shit about marriage? My My My, how interesting, and I suppose all of those single straight women reading Modern Bride magazine don’t give a shit about marriage either because they happen to be single.

      If you are going to make broad statements, again, at least try to link to anything that backs up your commentary. But since you don’t, and can’t, at least have the honesty to admit that this is just your own statement.

      Oh, and while you’re at it, if Marriage is only about “White Queens” you may want to explain why the NAACP, Mildred Loving, Coretta Scott King etc… all supported it. Oh, and if you’re going to try to pretend you aren’t an anti-gay bigot, you might not want to use pejorative terms for gays in your posts, it kinda gives you away.

      But thanks for playing.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 1:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GreatGatsby2011
      GreatGatsby2011

      @MarionPaige: So all gay men should run out and marry someone of the same sex that they don’t love just so they can “vote for gay marriage” and satisfy people like you? Because single gay men couldn’t possibly want the OPTION to marry the future love of their life because their so myopic?

      Oh wait, no. That’s just you.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 1:48 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DarkZephyr
      DarkZephyr

      @MarionPaige: Speak for yourself you r*cist, homophobic tw*t. How dare you? I happen to be engaged to marry the love of my life and several of my gay male friends are married, some of whom are BLACK. The fact that I have not actually gotten married yet does not mean that I have NO plans to do so. And call yourself a damned “Queen” and not me, you nasty piece of work!

      Aug 18, 2014 at 2:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Saint Law
      Saint Law

      @MarionPaige: Against some stiff competition you are now my new favourite moron on here. Congratz!

      Aug 18, 2014 at 2:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DarkZephyr
      DarkZephyr

      @AtticusBennett: That’s a quotable quote if I ever saw one!

      Aug 18, 2014 at 2:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DarkZephyr
      DarkZephyr

      @Saint Law: Amen!

      Aug 18, 2014 at 2:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Saint Law:

      Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!!

      Aug 18, 2014 at 2:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MphsThomas
      MphsThomas

      Wow!

      Aug 18, 2014 at 2:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      I was promoting the LLC to Gay Couples who wanted to share their lives together back when The Tired Ass White Queens were convinced that Hawaii would legalize gay marriage (and that the remaining 49 states would be forced to follow). Who fared better in the last 18 years? Is the gay community better all still waiting for national recognition of gay fucking marriage over something that was fully available in 1996?

      In the last 18 years since fucking Hawaii, has the gay couple who created an LLC fared better than the gay couple that waited and are still waiting for nationally recognition of their gay marriage? The LLC today is being used by rich people who can marry to buy homes and to insure the welfare of their children with trusts and family llcs. And meanwhile, the mantra from Tired Ass White Queens to the gay community is “wait for full marriage”.

      Take Susan Sarandon /Tim Robbins , Angelina Jolie/Brad Pitt, how many llcs to you think these couples have between them to protection their assets and the welfare of their children? Single Lady Oprah Winfrey was in the news recently for buying a NYC apartment for someone with an LLC named after her dead dog.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 3:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      Gay Marriage – The Hijacking of Evolution http://www.relationshipllc.com/discus/messages/284/284.html

      Aug 18, 2014 at 3:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mujerado
      mujerado

      @MarionPaige: “Unless of couse, it can be argued that the 100,000 or so lesbians who have married someone of the same sex ARE NOW THE GAY COMMUNITY?”

      Why do you ignore the gay men who have married? Do you believe there are none? Or that none of the gay people who haven’t married support those who have? What, exactly, is your point?

      Aug 18, 2014 at 3:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mujerado
      mujerado

      @MarionPaige: What is it you hope to accomplish with your insistent race-baiting?

      Aug 18, 2014 at 3:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      the bottom line: It is unlikely that his “performance” in re AFER is likely to get Rob Reiner elected Governor of California. All he succeeded in doing was generating a lot of anti-gay hatred over bullshit.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 3:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DarkZephyr
      DarkZephyr

      @MarionPaige: You repulsive r*cist troll. You no longer exist as far as I am concerned. You are dismissed.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 4:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • unclemike
      unclemike

      “Gay Marriage is a Roadshow that has helped the Republican Party more than the gay community.”

      I honestly don’t know how many Republicans it’s helped, but thanks to gay marriage my husband is now in the process of getting his resident visa to stay here with me (which wouldn’t have happened no matter how many LLCs we had).

      So, in conclusion, fuck you.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 4:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @mujerado: said…. “MarionPaige: What is it you hope to accomplish with your insistent race-baiting?”
      __________________

      When the files from the anti-gay group NOM were leaked part of their strategy was to go on gay sites and try to create a situation where it seemed like the gay community and the black community hated each other.

      Sounds like she didn’t get the memo that this tactic was exposed a few years ago when those documents leaked.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 5:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      yeah, that’s why all of those English actors are in gay marriages, so they can stay and work in the US. Isn’t Michael Cane gay married? And Justin BEiber is shopping around for a gay husband so he can stay in the country. Last time I checked being an owner or part owner of a business in the US was in fact grounds for getting permmission to stay and work in the country. But hey, your little story might play somehere

      Aug 18, 2014 at 5:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tricky ricky
      tricky ricky

      the judge in Tennessee is small potatoes. he is the bottom rung of the judicial ladder.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 6:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tricky ricky
      tricky ricky

      @MarionPaige: four year old blog post of some jackasses opinion. whoop de doo. evidently you’re just pissed because gay people want to get married and have all the rights and responsibilities that go with it and not create a limited liability corporation that offers them no real rights or protections. well, to quote one eric cartman, screw you.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 6:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • tricky ricky
      tricky ricky

      @MarionPaige: if you’re going to invoke the names of celebrities at least LEARN TO SPELL THEIR NAMES CORRECTLY

      Aug 18, 2014 at 6:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      just imagine for a minute some dumbass gay couple in Virginia that could have protected their joint assets and property with an llc in 1996 having waited 18 fucking years for gay marriage to be legalized in Virginia. More likely than not, sane gay couples in Virginia in 1996 that did want to protect their joint property and assets didn’t wait 18 years for gay marriage. So then, this is like preaching to the converted, or more specifically, the un converted in that less than 100,000 couples in all of North America since the dawn of time are gay married.

      there were many comments back in 1996 (in response to our site) claiming that no bank would loan money to an llc to buy to house. Well, as I understand it, the chief way wealthy individuals buy real estate these days is through an llc. Maybe they aren’t getting loans from banks to do so but they are using LLCs to buy property.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 7:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • unclemike
      unclemike

      @MarionPaige: “Last time I checked being an owner or part owner of a business in the US was in fact grounds for getting permmission [sic] to stay and work in the country.” Yes, it is. So is marrying a citizen. That’s our path. Why do we have to choose yours?

      “But hey, your little story might play somehere [sic].” What a sourpuss you are.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 7:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GreatGatsby2011
      GreatGatsby2011

      @MarionPaige:
      “Last time I checked being an owner or part owner of a business in the US was in fact grounds for getting permmission to stay and work in the country.”

      Nice that you leave out the fact that you have to be owner or part owner of a LEGITIMATE business. Not some shell LLC created to replace a marriage certificate (which it doesn’t). Do you honestly think immigration isn’t going check whether or not the business in question is legitimate? Think again.

      “there were many comments back in 1996 (in response to our site) claiming that no bank would loan money to an llc to buy to house.”

      And these claims were valid because they won’t.

      LLC’s aren’t, by any stretch of the imagination, a replacement for marriage.

      Unless that imagination belongs to a batsh!t crazy individual such as yourself.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 8:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scribe38
      Scribe38

      @MarionPaige: As a gay black man, involved in a almost twenty year relationship, with all sincerity due to you, please STFU! It is one thing for people to think you are dumb, quite another to speak loudly and let everyone know they are right about you. I imagine people like you whispering behind Martin Luther King Jr.’s back saying that he was pushing too fast, too hard for civil rights. Things have changed in public opinion about gays, because we have fought for our rights.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 8:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      Larry E. Ribstein did a number of papers on people creating an llc or incorporating versus marrying. One of a couple of papers he wrote that mentioned us and our concept was examining from a legal perspective if it was a good idea for that poly family on that Big Love (?) tv show to incorporate.

      I guess you have to be some what “up” on contract and llc law to having standing on this issue.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 8:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      “As a gay black man”

      it’s not fair is it?

      Aug 18, 2014 at 8:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • amefford82
      amefford82

      @MarionPaige: I’m a gay male and I give a shit about marrying the person I love. Get the fuck over yourself speaking for all gay males.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 9:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GreatGatsby2011
      GreatGatsby2011

      @MarionPaige:

      How would establishing an LLC have gotten my partner on my employer-sponsored health plan? Oh that’s right, it wouldn’t.

      How would establishing an LLC have qualified my partner to receive my employer-sponsored pension should I die before I were able to draw from it? Oh that’s right, it wouldn’t.

      How would establishing an LLC give me the right to make important medical decisions on behalf of my partner when my partner is physically or mentally capable of doing so himself? Oh that’s right it wouldn’t.

      Do you know what WAS able to extend to me all these rights and many many more at a fraction of the cost of establishing an LLC? A f*cking marriage license that established legal kinship between me and my partner, making him my husband.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 10:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      yada, yada, yada, you’re so 1996

      Aug 18, 2014 at 10:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GreatGatsby2011
      GreatGatsby2011

      @MarionPaige:

      Can’t even be bothered come up with one of your inane arguments?

      Good. Then sit down and STFU, the adults are talking.

      Aug 18, 2014 at 10:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • unclemike
      unclemike

      @GreatGatsby2011: Well done, sir! I doff my hat to you in respect. :-)

      Aug 18, 2014 at 10:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Billysees
      Billysees

      @Cam:

      “They could have avoided this entire mess if they had just had the actual responsibility and professionalism to give an appropriately broad ruling in either the Eddie Windsor or the Prop 8 case.”

      Good observation.

      I’m certain they somehow make decisions in order to keep themselves busy with work to do in the future.

      Aug 19, 2014 at 2:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bopper1
      Bopper1

      …so interesting to see that the “conversation” about same-sex marriage rights quickly devolves into troll backbiting like on all blogs…the bottom line is that public opinion has finally swung to a plurality for same-sex marriage…whether SCOTUS decides to get on board or not is of little matter…in the streets or in the courts, “gay marriage” is here to stay…it will be the law of the land, eventually…for that, I’m extraordinarily grateful and profoundly thankful to everyone who has made it so…IN MY LIFETIME!…

      Aug 19, 2014 at 3:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 1EqualityUSA
      1EqualityUSA

      Bogging our community down with law suits from coast to coast controls the amount of money we could put to work for us.

      Aug 19, 2014 at 7:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      since the money gay .org receive comes for a very small collection of corporate entities, there has and will always be “controls” on the amount of money gay .orgs have to spend. According to a study published a few years ago, less than 3.4% of gay adults have ever donated money to a gay .org and that same study showed that “the average gay .org receives 48% of its revenue from its 10 largest contributors”. It is not OUR COMMUNITY that gets bogged down in lawsuits, since the community is not deciding on what lawsuits to pursue. This is true to the ulti8mate degree with Rob Reiner’s vanity production AFER. AFER has zero to do with the gay community. It pursued a lawsuit strategy that 99.9% of experienced civil rights litigators told it was not advisable. And, ultimately, with AFER, while the patient died, the scripts, plays and movies AFER squeezes out all celebrate some kind of victory.

      When the dust clears, history will most definitely not be kind of Reiner and his AFER Sideshow.

      Aug 19, 2014 at 8:43 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 1EqualityUSA
      1EqualityUSA

      The money I have personally donated to civil rights litigators could have gone to a charity of my choice, a political candidate of my choice, or even stayed in savings. These lawsuits take a bite out of all of us. These lawsuits are vectors, sucking small amounts of nutrients from us, one or two, annoying, 10,000, a contender.

      Aug 19, 2014 at 8:53 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      Let’s just call a spade a spade. Reiner looked at the gay community and saw a way to raise his political profile for a possible run for Governor of California. AFER is not a community based organization. It did not arise from some community based roundtable that decided to sue the State of California. Chad Griffin and Reiner created AFER in some private dark room to further their personal agendas, with the gay community being just some stepping stone to that agenda. And, when the result happened that AFER was told by everyone would happen, AFER simply set about disseminating plays and movies to put a victory face on a grand failure.

      Aug 19, 2014 at 9:02 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 1EqualityUSA
      1EqualityUSA

      I disagree with your views. History will remember AFER fondly and we will win equality in a time when NCLR and others were pants-shitting and nibbling their nails. AFER fights like we are right…but then there were commenters on here that unequivocally stated, as though fact, that Romney was going to be our next President. Equality is inevitable. I’m grateful to AFER. At least Ted Olson and David Boise aren’t tapping away on keys, anonymously, to queerty. They are suiting up and going to court to fight. I appreciate their expertise and legal help.

      Aug 19, 2014 at 9:12 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @MarionPaige: said…

      “just imagine for a minute some dumbass gay couple in Virginia that could have protected their joint assets and property with an llc in 1996 having waited 18 fucking years for gay marriage to be legalized in Virginia.”
      _____________________

      That would be the state that tried to pass a law that people of the same sex cannot make any contracts together that in any way convey the benefits of marriage.

      Oooops, gets that wrecks your point.

      Aug 19, 2014 at 11:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      I wonder what the average gay person on the street thinks of when they hear the name Rob Reiner?

      Aug 19, 2014 at 11:40 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      Aug 19, 2014 at 11:45 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      Aug 19, 2014 at 11:46 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • unclemike
      unclemike

      @MarionPaige: Wow, *some*one’s got a major hard-on for Rob Reiner. Did he turn down your BJ offer one too many times? Do you sit in your living room alone, flicking on and off the single lamp, saying, “I’m not going to be *ignored* Rob?”

      Aug 19, 2014 at 11:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarionPaige
      MarionPaige

      In a comic-con panel on the tv show Outlander, a person asked the actors what time period they would travel back to if they could time travel. One of the actors said something very interesting, he said he would like to go back to BERLIN BETWEEN THE WARS.

      Berlin Between the Wars is a perfect example of how liberal acceptance of gays can change radically when some agitator comes on the scene. And, what gay marriage and AFER did in California is another example.

      Berlin between the wars was a gay mecca, there were gay bars, gay magazines. Top ranking government and military officials were openly gay. THEN, along came an agitator who saw hate (hate against gays, jews, gypsies etc) as a way to rally a majority. The same way The Republican Party is always looking for some issue for the masses to hate for it to aggregate a majority. Similarly, New York City politics has always been about some ahole (like Koch and Guiliani) using hate for something to get elected.

      As a direct result of gay marriage and AFER, there are now legal organized anti-gay groups in a State that was previously praised for having the most liberal domestic partners program in the nation. And, just take a look above at what was being the creation of AFER. Rob Fucking Reiner. Again, I wonder what the average gay person on the street thinks of when he hears the name Rob Reiner?

      Aug 19, 2014 at 12:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @MarionPaige:

      And again, you keep lying over and over. Your origional contention was that gay marriage has helped republicans more than gays. You have still been unable to back up that statement. You merely keep making little comments that are false as if they are true.

      You next tried to pretend this was a racial issue and then got off of that topic when it was pointed out that the NAACP and multiple black civil rights leaders support marriage.

      And now your big reveal is that apparently at some time somebody at Comi Con mentioned Berlin post WW1.

      Wow, the desperation in your posts would be funny if it weren’t so……sad.

      Aug 19, 2014 at 12:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brian
      Brian

      The Supreme Court is on recess from June to October every year. The chance that they would break recess to make a ruling is basically zero. They essentially never do it — even when the case involves urgency like a person on death row or an ongoing military action. To suggest that marriage equality will receive a ruling “this week” is either ignorant or insane. You should revise this article.

      Aug 19, 2014 at 7:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Brian:

      It wouldn’t be a ruling, it would be a decision on whether or not to delay implementation until the court heard the case.

      Aug 20, 2014 at 9:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Brian:

      @Cam: Thanks for the update Cam. We wouldn’t have known what it meant had you not illuminated us. ;-)

      Aug 20, 2014 at 3:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam
      Cam

      @Brian:

      What I meant to post was that the Supreme Court has just issued a stay

      http://www.washingtonblade.com/2014/08/20/supreme-court-blocks-virginia-sex-marriages/

      Aug 20, 2014 at 3:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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