An openly gay Toronto teacher pleaded guilty to professional misconduct this week after being accused of having an inappropriate relationship with a teen he claims was seeking advice on coming out.
Ian Handscomb, artistic director at the Claude Watson School for the Arts and faculty member since 1996, claims he maintained private Facebook communication with a 14-year-old student who was thinking of “coming out” because he believed the student sought his advice as an out gay man.
After the student moved to high school, Handscomb gave him copies of LGBT films Latter Days and Trick, which the Ontario College of Teachers considers distribution of sexually explicitly material. At an official disciplinary hearing this week, Handscomb was punished with a verbal reprimand and a 20-day suspension.
During the hearing, some of Handscomb’s private Facebook messages with the teen were revealed, including this gem:
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The College, which also recognized that Handscomb had failed to report being improperly propositioned by a former student years before, also found that Handscomb had driven the student to and from school alone.
Handscomb’s attorney told The Star that her client is a “role model for students questioning their sexuality,” though he “struggled” with this situation particularly.
Entropyguy
Those Facebook messages read like he was grooming the boy.
Leonard Woodrow
He foolishly overstepped the mark, but no real harm was done. Let’s hope he can get over it and be more sensible in future.
wpewen
I’m hoping to work for an elementary level teaching certification in the future. This issue of openly gay men teaching kids is probably going to continue for a while. Guys like this are really messed up in general, same goes if he were straight. The fact that he’s gay just gives ammo to the wingnut right, and they’ll pay more attention to this than they will a straight man with an underage girl. Especially in the fucked up Bible Belt world of the U.S.
Tackle
Reregardless of what the teacher and his attorney says, this was not innocent, and the teacher is no role model. The teacher should feel lucky that all he got was a 20 day suspension. The dialogue in the Facebook message was inappropriate, and giving a 14-yr-old an R-rated movies that they cannot, and would not have been able to see in a theater without the accompaniment of an adult was foolish, and just asking for trouble, even though many 14- yr-olds are probably on there computers looking at material more explicit. But allow them to do it on their own.
Good thing for all parties that this was discovered now. If not, I believe it would have gone further. And knowing this, it wouldn’t be.
a surprise if the teacher has some skeletons in the closet regarding underage male students…
Tackle
Typo: No period after ( wouldn’t be).
DarkZephyr
@Entropyguy: I agree. There is NOTHING innocent about complaining to a 14 year old boy about not getting to see him in his underwear. Dear God.
TundraMichael
@ wpewen – I taught elementary school 20 years ago. I was out, and there was only one problem: mothers of students kept trying to set me up with their brothers, cousins, and friends.
I found the Facebook messages of this guy to be terribly off base.
Cam
The teacher sounds like he was grooming the boy. Those facebook conversations are creepy.
HOWEVER, my only issue with this story is the fact that they consider “Latter Days” and “Trick” to be sexually explicit material.
Maybe I’m looking too deeply but would similar straight movies be considered sexually explicit? Especially considering if there were any video stores still around the kid could have rented both of those movies.
enlightenone
@Cam:NOT “sexually explicit.” We call this a double standard! There’s more sexually “explicit” on today’s soaps, the “CW,” the Family Channel, MTV that silly show “Big Brother,” etc., etc., etc.
queenrosered
This doesn’t make the teacher a mentor for gay students. It makes him a gay pedophile. JFC, the kid’s only 14.
That said, where is Michael Mellnor (aka The Troll) to blame this on straight women!??? LOL!
Billy Budd
Are there PG-rated LGBT movies?
IcarusD
@Cam: I can’t remember if there’s nudity in “Trick,” but there is in “Latter Days.” That alone would make it inappropriate to give to a 14 year old without parental permission. When I was 14, we needed signed parental permission to see Franco Zepherelli’s (sp?) “Romeo & Juliet” because of Leonard Whiting’s ass.
GSA Network offers this list of LGBT films recommended for teenagers:
http://www.gsanetwork.org/resources/posters-movies-and-more/recommended-movies
Though some have nudity, so a teacher giving any of these films to a student should vet it first.
jesaves
Ugh the crazy right wing but jobs are going to eat this up and add this to their argument that all gay men are pedophiles
enlightenone
@Billy Budd: No, but could be PG-13 (Trick and Latter Days could fit in this catagory) if it wasn’t for the intentional suppression of our sexuality to not offense the “fragile” sensibilities of the heterosexual, particularly the self-labeled fundamentalist/conservative/ Evangelical/Christian, etc.
Ridpathos
Rule of Thumb: If you’re a teacher, do NOT allow students to contact you or keep contact with you on Facebook, or any other social media.
I changed my name on Facebook so my students couldn’t find me. Let’s hope Facebook doesn’t suspend my account though like they did with the drag queens.
enlightenone
@Ridpathos: Good advice. And I hope you get to keep your “drag” name. Note: I didn’t misread your last sentence!
Lvng1Tor
@Ridpathos: Absolutely perfect and completely appropriate. I have many friends who do the same.
As far as the movies go….while we as adults may not see them as explicit it doesn’t matter…a teacher should be referring a student to the GSA or a school councilor not handing out movies (one about a boy trying to get laid and the other well basically the same…regardless of how they turn out…personally two of my favorite “gay” flicks) IT’s just inappropriate. The whole relationship is inappropriate. God please let us not find out he touched the boy.
enlightenone
@Billy Budd: Miss him much! I much rather see love, affection, and intimacy than violence any day. Censor violence in this country, you have to censor “reality” shows, cartoons, football, ice hockey, kick boxing – at least half of the TV shows here in the states!
Billy Budd
@enlightenone: I remember reading an article by the late Roger Ebert, where he said that European countries (especially the Nordic ones) tend to “censor” violence, not sex, and that the opposite happens in USA. He did not agree with the American regulations. Americans were influenced by puritans in New England, from the the early 17th century on, and this influence still shows. http://www.ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/res/article/viewFile/4585/3924
enlightenone
@Lvng1Tor: Tragically, if he did, it may never be reported or the kid would be in his 30’s or 40’s before it is revealed, not having any treatment for the abuse until his relationships suffer and perhaps battle addictions!
Billy Budd
I am not against the LGBT movies for kids per se, but the teacher’s intimate dialogue with the boy shows that something wrong was going on.
martinbakman
Those FB messages can easily be taken to seem a little creepy, kinda like Mark Foley and the male pages in Congress. As far as Latter Days, it’s on a lot of BEST lists, but for a teenage audience, Big Eden would have been more on target.
enlightenone
@martinbakman: In Big Eden, they are grown men with adult perspectives, not for a 14 year old to relate!
Rusty Alcorta
I think he over stepped his boundaries, but I’m not going to pass judgement, that’s up to the school officials.
SteveDenver
Many times I have heard that gauging appropriateness is a simple as switching genders. Imagine a straight teacher sending those messages to a young adolescent girl and giving her R-rated films that contain simulated sex.
He’s an idiot and a disgrace, and should lose his license.
sangsue
Especially if this was the teacher’s student. And if it had been a male teacher giving a straight 14 year female student any R or NC-17 movie, with sexual scenes, what do you think would be happening to him?
I don’t care about the gender or sexual orientation of the teacher or the student. All that matters is that he’s the adult and he has the power in that dynamic. He could use that power to influence his student. The fact that it’s an openly gay teacher makes it even worse because he’s already starting off with eyes watching him. This doesn’t help our cause.
blackberry finn
If a straight male teacher assigned an uncensored version of FZ’s Romeo and Juliet to his class without parental consent, he might expect some backlash. Giving it privately to a female student, on top of sexual innuendos on FB AND rides home from school…it wouldn’t fly for a straight teacher.
Merv
The Facebook messages are one thing, but who the hell cares about an R-rated movie? Teenagers see R-rated movies all the time, with and without parental permission. Stop making it seem like it’s a horribly damaging experience. Simulated sex with partial nudity can be seen on prime time TV on network and cable television. Get a grip!
Xzamilio
Yeah, this was wildly inappropriate.
Xzamilio
@Merv: I agree, and if it had just been the movies, I’d be on this guy’s side. But the private FB messages reek of grooming.
Billy Budd
You know, guys, I have a hunch that the kid was not molested in this case. I think the dialogues were innapropriate and the teacher really went too far with his help and “advising”, but I would be surprised if the kid were phisically harmed. Lets wait and see.
Billy Budd
physically. Sorry, I’m not a native speaker.
Cam
@Lvng1Tor: said…. “As far as the movies go….while we as adults may not see them as explicit it doesn’t matter…a teacher should be referring a student to the GSA or a school councilor not handing out movies (one about a boy trying to get laid and the other well basically the same…regardless of how they turn out…”
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My concern wasn’t with whether or not he gave him the movies, but with the fact that movies like that were considered sexually explicit. If they were about straight people both of those movies would most likely have gotten PG-13 ratings.
Latter Days had zero nudity, it was implied, and Trick had one shot of breasts. Latter Days had minimal if any swearing Trick had a small amount (Tori Spelling freaking out in the restaurant). If these were straight movies I seriously doubt they would be R rated.
They showed Romeo and Juliette in Schools and frankly that plotline was far more disturbing. Murder, Violence, Suicide, plus a dash of sex.
NYUCanadian
@Cam:…Actually, Cam, “Latter Days” had to be released “Unrated” as the director was threatened with an NC-17–it was a very explicit movie. There was no full-frontal (unless you looked very closely in the mirror during the “airport hotel” scene), but there was a large amount of nudity in the film (Aaron putting the lotion on Christian’s buttock while Christian is wearing nothing but a jockstrap, or the 90-second sex scene in the airport hotel where the two men are completely naked, though artfully shot not to reveal their genitals.)
“Trick” was far more benign…probably Coco Peru’s rant about semen in the eye was the most “adult” thing in the film–other than perhaps the main character’s desire to have oral sex performed while he played the piano…
“Trick” probably could have been PG-13, but “Latter Days” was DEFINITELY R-rated for frequent nudity and sexuality.
NYUCanadian
@enlightenone: There is no way “Latter Days” is PG-13…have you even seen this movie?
Cam
@NYUCanadian: said… “Actually, Cam, “Latter Days” had to be released “Unrated” as the director was threatened with an NC-17–it was a very explicit movie.”
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You do realize that the Ratings Board has been under scrutiny for giving any movie with a gay theme an inflated (Artificially High) rating?
NC 17? Funny, why don’t you name off the scene that would have given Latter Days an NC – 17 rating, because any scene you could come up with I could match with scenes from Straight movies that were NOT threatened with that rating.
You named the Scene where Christian was wearing a jock? Hmmmm, funny because “Not Another Teen Movie” You know, a movie banking on a teen and young adult audience did NOT get an NC-17 Rating and yet they had a full shot of a naked Chris Evans walking away from the camera, not just a brief shot in a jock.
Kieru
Let’s set aside the fact that he gave a minor two movies with varying degrees of sexual content. This guy is sprouting creepy red flags all over.
– Friends with minors he teaches on Facebook.
– Privately messaging said student.
– Completely inappropriate discussions with student via Private Messages.
It’s entirely plausible that he was just trying to come off as that ‘cool’ teacher who can have something close to the rapport one sees between two classmates … but his failure to disclose all of this makes it seem far more insidious in nature given that he ALSO drove the student around (alone) and failed to disclose previous incidents of misconduct.
Cam
@Kieru:
Oh yeah, my issues with the MPAA aside the facebook conversations were creepy and should set off warning bells.
Lanikai
Simply inappropriate. Handscomb is supposedly a teacher, not a flimflam tour guide through Gayland for youth.
Silas Wegg
Is ‘grooming’ a technical term for recruiting to the gay team? Grooming to be a preternatural dancing-in-underwear gay years before the kid would learn this typical-to-the-tribe behavior? Or just grooming the kid to be his lover? Three different people used the word here, so just curious about the proliferation of the word re: man/boy relationships.
DuMaurier
I missed “Trick”, and only saw “Latter Days” on Logo; if it was “sexually explicit” at any point it wasn’t by the time the TV censors got through with it.
Aside from that, when I applied for an administrative school district job, there was pre-employment training on sex abuse prevention, and it (inevitably, and depressingly, understandably) outlined very, very strict and inflexible rules on adult/student interactions, going way beyond obvious stuff like–duh–not letting a student sleep over at your house, to guidelines to prevent developing any peronal, one-on-one relationships, no matter how innocent or well-intentioned. Stuff that was normal in my school days, like just hanging out with a favorite teacher after class and talking, helping her grade papers, etc–all totally forbidden now. Even chatting with one student in an open hallway for “too long” is out, and if I saw that I would be expected to “intervene”.
I’m talking a U.S. school, but I imagine it’s pretty much the same in Canada, and by the loosest definition of the guidelines outlined to me, the kind of interaction described here would be wildly, insanely over the line.
enlightenone
@NYUCanadian: First, I said “could be;” second, As noted by Cam in Not Another Teen Movie, the character walked away showing his naked, hot ass. What Cam left out is he also a banana sticking out of his butt! Not R-rated! And, yes, I did see Latter Days (on Logo) or I would not have commented! If the Logo showing of the film was censored, I wouldn’t know. Did you see a version that had EXPLICIT sex? By the way sexually and explicit sex are two entirely different things! WHAT WE ALL NEED TO KEEP IN MIND is that gay teens have very little media as “hetero” teens do that shows their sexuality, explicit or not. And for me, my generation, as a teen, there was NO education, sex material (ALL HETERO), partly why we had sex with girls where there was real desire or not (whole different discussion that we haven’t had). There was no MTV, CW, FOX, LOGO, no Internet/social media, cell phones, no sex ed class, just the boogeyman/pedophile, translation homosexual predator to fear or shadow figure to axed to death in some horrible B-movie!
Disclosure: At age 14, I was a high school freshman and experienced mutually masturbation for the first time – same age. Prior to that at age 12, I experienced anal sex (overwhelming, scary, and confusing) with bestfriend (“straight”/same age) for the first time – he initiated! Except for a 3some in college – not a preferred sexual activity, I would be considered to be a prude by gay standards with number of sex partners in my lifetime could be counted on with my hands and feet x1!
As for the teacher, assuming he had good intentions at the beginning, 90% of what he did would be in the molest category! The fact that he was “out” is good, but that is even more reason he had to be ABOVE BOARD and should have known better – again assuming he wasn’t intentionally “grooming” the boy from the start!
EGO
I came out when I was in the Navy and learned not to mix business with pleasure. The teacher had better options than Facebook and websites with sexual content, explicit or implicit. A teacher should give the student constructive, positive advice related to gender issues regardless of sexual orientation.
Tackle
@Cam: Come on @Cam, you arepplaying games here. Is your ego so big that you cannot admit you are/were wrong? After you asserted that “Latter Days” had zero nudity, @NYUCanadian: corrected you, ( rightl so) and you went off topic, twisting things, and talking about ratings board. Inflated/ Artificially hight ratings for gay movies.And comparing “Latter Days” with a straight teen movie, when the main thing @NYUCanadian: was taking you to task on, was your assertion that “Latter Days” had. ZERO nudity in it…. I seen the unrated version at the theater when it first came out. And yes, there was alot of nudity and simulated sex in it.
And yes @Cam: We all can agree that the ratings board will come down harder on a gay movie. But that’s not what the disagreement was about here.
Entropyguy
@Silas Wegg: ‘Grooming’ is a technical term for an adult trying to get a child to agree to have sexual contact with them.
Merv
As a kid in the 1980s, I remember watching simulated sex (including orgasm) on Dallas, which was an extremely popular program watched by whole families. Now, all these years later, we are developing hangups about it?
Silas Wegg
@Entropyguy: Ah, thanks. So it’s the EPHEBOPHILE form of ‘seducing’, I get it.
Rusty Alcorta
@Billy Budd: Yes I remember that article by Roger Ebert too. I also feel the same applies to the way Europeans see nudity compared to Americans in the U.S.
@enlightenone: Yes that’s a very good point about what could happen to the boy if he keeps it locked up inside. I’ve seen the effects being almost immediate where the boy’s life starts spiraling out of control, his grades plummet, he becomes depressed, reclusive, antisocial and sometimes suicidal and needs drugs and alcohol to kill the pain if he doesn’t get help quickly. Some man at the “Mr. Gay Iceland claims was raped at 12” article told me that a lot of kids hide it, it doesn’t affect them and live normal lives. I guess I didn’t meet them, I only met the ones who were affected.
Disclosure: I was brutally beaten and raped at twelve by two fourteen and a fifteen year old. It affected me greatly although I hooked up with a fourteen year old later that year that lasted until I was twenty, the effects of the beating and rape and my rescuer have played a role in all my relationships and the way I see life and others.
nandaric
@NYUCanadian: There was nothing remotely explicit about Latter Days and the one and only sex scene which was all of 30 seconds was tame compared to what we see on tv every day between straight couples. It is bullshit to even try to claim these two movies are “inappropriate” for teens. In fact the couple in Trick never even end up having sex at all and realize they might be interested in more than just sex with each other. How on earth could that possibly be bad for a 14 year old gay teen to see?
The teacher was clearly out of line in what he did but the movies by themselves are absolutely not even remotely an issue.
enlightenone
@Rusty Alcorta: Are you saying you are still experiencing unhealthy relationships, or have you claimed your sexuality back and have done some healing in the present to have a good relationship?
My reason for disclosure (which I have never sharing other than with my friends) was to say that I would have preferred to date a boy – holding hands when it was safe to do so, kiss, maybe masturbation, but not full on sex at 12, 13, 14, or 15!There was nothing in my life to guide me. It didn’t exist. Gay youth should see tv shows movies, etc. that depicts some affection/sexual interactions that doesn’t go so far as to show intercourse although they will see it via the Internet, their cell phone/ipad, and cable tv. There is no more Genie in the Bottle!
Rusty Alcorta
@enlightenone: There was no professional help, literature, movies or TV to guide me either. Sex was not even discussed in health class. I’m talking the sixties. Yes I overcame my trauma after joining a study group with UTMB where we were paid gas money and given lunch to tell our stories and in return they helped us over come our trauma and I was able to have long term relationships that in forty some odd years I can count on the fingers of one hand. AND I agree that today there is NO MORE GENIE IN THE BOTTLE and there is so much help in organizations, in the media, Youtube and even on Netflix to help boys understand their sexuality and relationships with others.
@rextrek: Yes I agree he should have been more professional about it like you said, but I don’t think he should have given him the movies, just the titles would have sufficed. As Americans we all have our own opinions as to what the teacher should have done and how they should prosecute him but we are forgetting our laws do not apply to other countries and we cannot pressure others to do our will. There are countries where he would have been imprisoned, stoned to death or beheaded and there are countries that would not care what the man did, short of murder or physical abuse, even if he was having a sexual relationship with the boy. I feel Queerty is only giving us half the story and did not give us the end results, the actual outcome and that the “school board continues to trust him and has not found a need to remove him from his position.” Now imagine this happening in America.
http://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto/education/2014/09/26/tdsb_teacher_found_guilty_of_professional_misconduct.html
Cam
@Tackle: said…
“@Cam: Come on @Cam, you arepplaying games here. Is your ego so big that you cannot admit you are/were wrong? After you asserted that “Latter Days” had zero nudity, @NYUCanadian: corrected you, ( rightl so) and you went off topic, twisting things, and talking about ratings board. Inflated/ Artificially hight ratings for gay movies.And comparing “Latter Days” with a straight teen movie, when the main thing @NYUCanadian: was taking you to task on, was your assertion that “Latter Days” had. ZERO nudity in it….”
And…..
And yes @Cam: We all can agree that the ratings board will come down harder on a gay movie. But that’s not what the disagreement was about here.
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Actually Latter Days did not show full nudity. There was a brief Jock shot and the rest posed artfully posed to avoid seeing anything. You seem to want to angrily assert things that did not happen. I brought up “Not Another Teen Movie” as a comparison for the very reason that there was far more explicit nudity in that movie and it had a lower rating, in answer to NYUCanadians comment trying to defend Latter Days ratings.
So you rant about my comment then agree with the premise of it which was “The ratings boards will come down harder on gay movies.” Which was exactly what the conversation between NYUCanadian and I had gotten to.
Tackle
@Cam: No @ Cam. Wasn’t at all angry. But I guess if someone disagrees with you, you take that as being angry. No one said that ” Latter Days” did show full” frontal” nudity. But it did have a few nude bare ass scenes, which is still considered nudity. And it even had a scene where both actors are nude, and one lays on top of the other. Maybe our definition of nudity is different. Regardless if either the back or front is shown, and they are not covered in anyway, then I say they are nude…
enlightenone
@Tackle:”then I say they are nude… SCHOOL: “…distribution of sexually explicitly material.”
I may be mistaken, but I thought “we” have tackled this issue regarding what would be PG-13 versus an “R” Rating with “R” being sexually explicit, and therefore Latter Days shouldn’t have been given and “R” rating since it only showed “nudity,” but an “R” rating [slapped on it] because it was “gay” subject-matter? “Nudity” then would be PG-13 like “hetero” teen movies.
vive
…proving that (English) Canadians are at least as stuck up about sexuality (especially teenage sexuality, THE HORROR) as people in the U.S.
vive
Just a point of reference, for what it is worth. The age of consent was 14 in Canada until relatively recently, when it was raised to 16 by the same right wing party that supported Bush and continues to assault the environment.
Jaroslaw
Thanks for that Vive – in a number of ways I don’t see what all the fuss is about. While I do understand what a teacher says or does is different than interactions with peers, I presume the facebook msgs were public and unfortunately the law doesn’t take into account the maturity level of an individual kid. In retrospect the underwear remark seems a bit much it may have been innocent enough. Gosh I sure wish a lot of Truly serious issues in schools and society got his much attention!!! Of course we can speculate on strong terms like “molest” and “grooming” but to be much more than the mildest speculation would presume most of us live in an 1890s Victorian society and mindset. While parents might not like it, what kids know and actually do is underestimated exponentially by parents. One wonders how parents become such saints forgetting their own teen and young adult lives once their own children are born….. Teachers and other adults never touch or comfort kids now because of a very few bad apples. I’m glad to see in the limk provided by Rusty Alcort that more progressive decision makers in Canada prevailed.
Cam
@Tackle: said… “No @ Cam. Wasn’t at all angry. But I guess if someone disagrees with you, you take that as being angry.”
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No, but when somebody says “” Is your ego so big that you cannot admit you are/were wrong?”” Then I assume it.
As for the nudity, I pointed out that the nudity in “Not Another Tenn Movie” was more explicit. You did not dispute that, you didn’t say I was wrong so I’m not really sure what your point is.
Jaroslaw
@Cam: Blogs are a microcosmic examle of why society is disintegrating. Agreement is not required for blog interactions but objectively reading what others wrote and at least trying to understand their point of view should be.
Cam
@Jaroslaw:
That is the case unless the person fails to articulate their point of view within the context of the discussion.
Tackle
@enlightenone: Actually in regards to what’s PG, R, N-C17 and X -rated, there is still much confusing regarding this, and it has not been adequately tackled. Producers can and frequently file appeals. Example, “Show Girls”, which was given an X rating, which was ridiculous, in my opinion, after having seen many X rated/ porn movies. It seems to me that in Hollywood, a lot of ratings is politically driven, connections, favors and legacy. And BTW, LDS did not just have nudity. It had nudity along with simulated sex. Put those two togather, and we are talking about a different ball game.
Tackle
@enlightenone: @Cam: I think here is confusion here with LDS. And it’s the different versions that has been released. Myself and ( from what he described) @NYUCanadian: seen the Unrated version, in movie house when it first came out around 10 yrs ago. Now you have posters saying they seen the movie on Logo, cable and dvd, and it was a PG rated movie, not at all explicit: Here is the problem/confusion: Obviously there are ” different” version of the movie, that has been tamed down , to fit and be acceptable to different markets. Realizing this now, I will admit that I came at @Cam: a bit harsh. ..
enlightenone
@Tackle: When I said we tackled it, I was referring to those of us participating in this discussion. I agree 100% regarding the powers-that-be in the Hollywood corporate bureaucracy! This is the discussion we had when I was in undergraduate, majoring in Radio, Television, and Film (RTF) from 1977-1981.
Just to keep it somewhat simplistic, isn’t the focus of our discussion: Do the “rating board” unfairly rate LGBT films giving them a higher age restriction just because there is same-sex sexuality themes/plotlines, and sexual behavior insinuated, simulated, or otherwise whatever the amount/degree of “nudity”/”explicit sex?”
You mentioned “simulated sex” in LD, I don’t recall at this point in time. Was it simulated to the degree as the scene in “Looking,” next to last episode between the star protagonist and his boss? If so, I would give that an “R” rating and no appropriate for a 14 year old boy gay, “straight,” etc.
Tackle
@enlightenone: Let me tackle the ratings boards question first. In a previous thread I said yes they do unfairly give gay films an unfairly high ratings. LBQ films I’m not so sure about. But gay films, that’s just my belief. But in all honestly, I have no proof. Have not done any research, nor have seen any done to convince me that it is an absolute fact.
And yes the scene in LD was similar to the star of l” Looking” and his boss. Only difference, is that it wasn’t as dark as the ” Looking” scene. It was more of a close- up side view. In fact so close-up, and light, you can see the stretch marks on the actor’s ass who’s on top.
enlightenone
@Tackle: Thanks for the f/u!
Rusty Alcorta
There was a lot more talk about the movies than the teacher who by the way sits in as a principal when the principal is away. The whole case blew over and nobody wants to get rid of him. He was suspended for twenty days, took a course in teacher-student relations and that was it. The STAR Newspaper after that didn’t follow the story because the case was closed.
ric
HEY AMERICA. TAKE NOTES THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT.THEN AGAIN THIS MAY BE TO HARSH OF A WAY TO TAKE CARE OF IT. JUST SAYING.
ric
SORRY. I WAS WANTING TO COMMENT ON A DIFFERENT ARTICLE. NOT THIS ONE.