Why didnt The holy spirit remove the Lithp ?

BULLSHIT!!!

How do we exorcise the dangerous, ill advised, lunatic,
nut bags who are influencing this confused boy? His qoute:
The spirit of homosexuality is not in me because I choose not to live in that way." I'd be more than willing to bet something else will be "in" him before long………….

This is all kinds of scary..

You can bet this deluded fool will continue having sex with males, virtually every so called ex-gay who has married and there aren't many of them, few have fathered children and many are still having sex on the side with men. Nobody can ever be "cured". Don't you love it when they describe our very existence as a "lifestyle", as if straights are exempt from that perception? Try curing a straight, the day that happens then maybe these idiots will have some credence. Not going to happen.

@Robert, NYC:

Why would you call him a deluded fool?

He is 16 years old. Now the parents and the bigots that "cured" him get my undying hatred but…

He is a kid.

Are the "beard demons" next on the list?

Score another victory for religious beliefs. Christians continue to make homosexuality wrong – even "demonic" in this pathetic case.

Yes, ChiTown Kev – he must be "deluded" and a "fool" to believe this crap and deny who he really is. They should be giving him condoms to "save his life," not witchcraft.

I really feel bad for this kid. He's being lied to by the people who are meant to protect him, and this will end up harming him in the long run. The psyche can't handle being lied to, especially when one's lying to himself. If he's LUCKY, he'll 'break down' and be gay, if not, he'll have a psychotic break. The mind can't handle that kinda stress, man.

@Brian:

"Yes, ChiTown Kev – he must be "deluded" and a "fool" to believe this crap and deny who he really is."

He looks more like a hostage to me.

@Brian:

Uh, and what 16 year old kid doesn't go through all sorts of identity problems?

Hell, I was 19 when I walked into a church in Harlem and had the pastor annoit me with olive oil and prayed out "the demon of homosexuality."

Now, of course, that prayer lasted all of 45 minutes until I ran into a hot cruise spot in Central Park.

Poor baby. He is gentle and sweet. He may kill himself eventually believing he is evil for his natural attraction to another man. Tyra was very compassionate.

@Charles Merrill:

We never agree but the way people are acting to Tyra's behaviour is like they are trying to say it as like Oprah when she was good! In the 80's!

This was wrong.

Chitown….

Why, how, wtf??

@John from England(used to be just John but there are other John's):

First of all John, I'm 42 now so I laugh at the memory.

Let's see, homophobia at home, went to school in the South to get away from the homophobia (some but not all religious based) at home but found more homophobia in the South (plus a racist gaybashing). Wound up in NYC broke, busted, drunk, and disgusted. For a moment I wanted things to change.

It was a simple annoiting and not the assult that this kid went through. But still…

Of course I was sucking dick under a viaduct in Central Park in less than an hour. Guess the cure didn't work and I haven't thought about since.

@Chitown Kev:

Day of reckoning and all that…

Again-I will say I guess it's easier in Europe then the US….it's not kumbaya but you will find a place to sleep or be. OR you could get benefits as well as healthcare…??

Bah, not trying to push anything but it always shocks me with what you guys go through that people are anti-universal public health care…

Or lowering the age of consent..

This kid needs to be cured of the infection of religion.

Let him sin a few times and maybe then he'll be honest.

I believe him, because he says so and has a beard and a mustache.

@Chitown Kev: "Let's see, homophobia at home, went to school in the South to get away from the homophobia (some but not all religious based) at home but found more homophobia in the South (plus a racist gaybashing). "

What? Some, but not all religious based. Hmmm, where else did somebody get the idea that we are wrong? Religion is the only institution that teaches that.

Poor thing, that "beard" he is wearing isnt fooling anyone..

What fool said to this poor kid "Hey, all you need to do to look straight is put on this face weave"

He looks more like he is ready to put on the chaps and harness and hit the EAGLE!

America… SAD..

I admire his attempt, and because I'm not religious, I'd rather something that made the change instant rather than a long process. Looks like people like Kamora are not above the let's use the children platform as I'm sure she'd accuse others of using. Next, will Tyra feature a show about religious teens being ostracized for having beliefs? Being called "bigots" and such for believing what they do about homosexuality. Apparently, "it hurt little Johnny's feelings" dictates what can and cannot be considered wrong. Perhaps the prophet feels so strongly because she changed and no longer feels the attraction she referred to. I don't think that boy is there yet, but who is to say that it's not possible, given the proper environment..ie. not the Tyra show and APA references.

@Andrew:

Traditional sex roles/ideas of what it is to be a "man" or a "woman" also has something to do with it; this was particularly the case with my brother who is not religious.

Now I will say that it's a bit easier to work with and gradually change non-religious based homophobia but remember; homophobia is also an offshoot of sexism.

Well, the "prophetess use" to be a crackhead! The only time she ever had urges for a woman the "rock" must have been involved! Why would someone trust their soul to a crackhead? You wouldn't trust a crackhead to wash your car, take out your garbage, or do your taxes, yet he trust his soul to her? They need to check to see if he is on the "rock" as well.

@sekaiichibankawaii:

LOL! Well, I'm still a crackhead to be honest. Just haven't toked of the glass dick in awhile.

But the prophrtess is still cracked, I will agree with you there.

@Chitown Kev:

prophetess…I can't spell.

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How sad is it that black people are engaging in this sort of thing!

@jason:

Honey, white folks do this shit too. Sarah Palin went to the same type of church.

"But Jeffrey is likely facing a ridiculous amount of pressure, from family or friends or "the church," and the 20-minute exorcism is the least of his pain."

That's an understatement – "gay exorcisms" rely a LOT on repeated "intervention" after the event to make sure the "cured" homosexual doesn't slip back into temptation. You can bet that any socializing he does (friends, Internet/e-mail use and so on) is being highly scrutinized and controlled through guilt ("Well you were cured of that by the Holy Ghost so wanting dick is you just CHOOSING to want it) and "loving correction" The "exorcism" itself is demeaning enough, but what this kid is going through now makes that deranged ritual look completely harmless by comparison. And this will likely go on for years unless he gets out. Bad stuff. Really, really bad stuff.

@Chitown Kev:

Absolutely right.

Why would his lifestyle not be scrutinized? Why wouldn't there be intervention? They don't seem Catholic, but what they are getting at appears to be related to what Catholicism calls the sin of omission. Sex thoughts come up on you involuntarily? Well voluntarily do something to redirect your thoughts. Like it or not, it really is your choice. So if that was an attempt to mock, it didn't work.

i don't believe him!!!! look those glases his wearing!!! c'on….just because he has a macho look doesnt make him str8!!!!

Now he can pray-away his other social handicap (i.e. being "Black in America"™)

@Chitown Kev: "homophobia is also an offshoot of sexism."

Yup. The "also" though redundant?

Wait, who were those two women at the end? Can someone fill me in?

Many would say that homosexuality itself is sexism, so that idea is quite ironic.

Brain damage. And/or over-medication.

Any truth to the rumor that he's Maggie Gallagher's illegitimate love child with Dominique Wilkins?

Bitch still got him some powerful trouser demons, I'm thinkin'.

oh please!

16 years old…. seems like child abuse to me

er BRAMNASH, you wouldn't be anti-gay. would you? Then why do you "admire" this young man's attempt to change? Gross.

He's a minor. If he says anything other than "it worked" they'll just do it again.

This exorcism is based on the traditional Christian belief that homosexuality is wrong.

this was sad. I saw this eposide and it almost brought me to tears. He still has mannerisms as if is gay, it does not work (the process in which he underwent). I had a best friend that tried on two occasions to give up the gay lifestyle, he cut me off to live the life of the church, but left, becuase he could not pray away his lust for men. Not sure if he went back a 3rd time, we are no longer friends, but i think you should be able to be yourself and worship God, (minus the partying/drinking/wild sex). No one asks to be gay, for such opposition, why do members of the black church feel it can be prayed away?? i accept myself as i am, if the lord changes my heart tomorrow i'll accept it, but i'm not going to leave it to the hands of any black church to "flush the homosexual demon out" what NONSENSE!! I hope he finds his way as he gets older, i can imagine how it is, being gay and black in some unaccepting households, with fathers that will beat it out of you, mothers that want to take you to church and have it prayed out of you. Lord help the young teens today, give them strength, because the suicide rate amongst young gay teens is no joke.

There is nooo way the there is a gay demon.. He just got scared of the pastors.. lol

@Brian:

Not just homosexuality, though. And not all black churches either.

"Beyond the obvious hypocrisy inherent in GOP Senator and Promise Keepers member John Ensign's recently disclosed extramarital sexual affair, there's another notable aspect to Ensign's religious affiliations that has so far escaped public notice: exorcism.

Senator John Ensign belongs to a Pentecostal denomination, the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, that promotes a new health care paradigm in which both physical and psychological maladies can be cured through the casting out of demons. In the new approach, individuals can even heal themselves by exorcising their own demons, through a process that a 2003 Associated Press story characterized as "do it yourself exorcism"

"From John Ensign's college introduction to the Promise Keepers movement, through the Senator's current membership in a Las Vegas church within the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel denomination, to his current residence in a house owned by Youth With a Mission, a parachurch evangelical organization founded in 1960 by Loren Cunningham – who espouses a doctrine of Christian infiltration of key societal sectors, Senator Ensign has throughout his political career associated with charismatic Christian religious entities in the forefront of promoting a radical and new approach that is redefining Christian evangelism, which now includes a heavy emphasis on the exorcism of demons as a key to a healthy, productive, and moral life."

http://www.alternet.org/blogge....._movement/

They should sell this "self-exorcism" thing for $19.99. It's a goldmine. Nutty Christians.

@Chitown Kev:

Now, of course, that prayer lasted all of 45 minutes until I ran into a hot cruise spot in Central Park.

Oh! You know about Rambles, Homo Hill and Gulper's Gulch too, do you? LOL

@schlukitz:

I might. I might not. I dont suc…I mean kiss and tell.

@jason: how sad that you're still a racist.

WHAT?! no mention of the fact that the exorcising woman *used* to be a lesbian, and admitted it on the show?!?

(truth be told, i was surprised… in my blindness, i had thought a lot about self-hating gay men, but had forgotten that women could fall prey to the same thing.)

@dgz: Yes, everyone always forgets lesbians.

@Chitown Kev:

I might. I might not. I dont suc…I mean kiss and tell.

You, Sir, are obviously a gentleman. ;o)

Poor kid. Didn't the minister at Sarah Palin's church perform exorcisms on gays, too??

@Bri: not so much that, as the lack of public examples of seld-hating lesbians, e.g. larry craig.

oh the humanity!

@Jason:
Oh, the crackhead lies!!! Somebody find the "prophetess" a pipe and crack so that she can leave this boy alone! I can't believe anyone is taking her seriously, she admitted to be a crackhead on CNN. If Tyra really wanted to help that boy, she convince the "prophetess" there is going to be a couple of "rocks of discernment" if she told that boy the truth. Trust, she would have told that boy he was the flame you could see from space.

This is a 16 yr old, it's a kid. He is still growing and is very confused. Personally I feel sorry for him because he was taken advantage of by the members of that "church" and his family. The people he lives with and depend on for emotional guidance is feeding him this crap. They themselves are ignorant and stuck in religious dogma.

So he will be battling these "temptations" for the rest of his life because it's "God's" job to clean him of these temptations. In essence he will be like Larry Craig and Ted Haggard, having sex with men while denying his homosexuality.

@dgz: Charlene Cothrane anyone?

Okay, people don't forget lesbians…they ignore them.

What got me is when Miss Woman Prophet said she at one time had feelings for another woman. Afuckinmazing!

"it is completely wrong…but there's nothing wrong with it"

….and some people say my autobiography is no longer relevant

http://gayambassador.blogspot......llege.html

40 years later crazy things still happen even though society and science has moved on….some parts of christendom remain in the dark ages.

@Ozymandias:

You just described the first 18 years of my life.

Seriously…please don't take this out on the kid. Take it from someone who has been exactly where he is now…at 16, being gay and having been raised in such a highly religious-saturated environment, you have no idea the confusion and anguish going on in this kid's head. The emergence of one's sexuality can be confusing enough under the best of circumstances…throw on top of that homosexuality, coupled with this religious craziness and it becomes psychotic.

"Give me peace, love and a hard cock" – Tori Amos

Great article on Advocate.com by David White.

"You might remember the YouTube clips of the people performing an exorcism on a 16-year-old boy to make him stop having homosexual desires. Well, those got taken down (and who knows, maybe reposted over and over, I haven’t checked lately) by a gay teen advocacy group called True Colors. And I think that’s a good thing. No kid needs that kind of shit following him or her around on the Internet. It’s a hellish enough world out there for a lot of homo teens trapped in cartoonishly superstitious, scare-the-holy-fucking-shit-out-of-you churches (i.e., pretty much all of them, with few exceptions) where the fear of Satan is pounded into their heads. "

The article: http://www.advocate.com/Arts_a.....Beginners/