@No. 71 · Bill: You said you were in your sixties and your only encounters with the gay happened forty years ago? So as a twenty year old in the late sixties, early seventies, the people you knew smoked a lot of pot and had a lot of sex? Holy shit it must be because these four people were gay. Maybe gay relationships were historically more unstable because being gay was illegal and socially unacceptable?

@No. 72 · NoPirate1: Bullshit. The Bible we have today has been edited and translated so many times since it was first written that it would unrecognizable by its authors if they could read it today. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed not because of the gay, but because everyone there enjoyed raping, murdering, and robbing any random travelers who happened by. That Leviticus bit? Also says not to eat shellfish or mix fibers when weaving cloth. Jesus was pretty clear that He came here not for the righteous but for the sinners. Maybe you’ll get lucky and being a hateful douchbag is a sin.

Gah. Sorry, I know better than to feed them, but why the hell do people like this even come to this site? I feel like someone just stirred my anthill.

Thank you for the bigoted and homophobic, hetero rant

and finger-pointing…on a gay site, no less.

Tell me, are you gettin’ much these days, not that you are heading into the fall of your years?

Perhaps that’s part of your problem, dude? Unbridled jealousy.

The sins of the flesh (LUST) are the most deadly of all no matter the sexual preference. That is why sexual predators cannot be cured by human means. The Bible even says it’s better a child molester drown themselves than exist. It is the SIN that weighs on their concious not the approval/disapproval of Man OR that runway lingerie bimbo Tyra Banks!

My conclusion. There is little true monogamy in gay/lesbian relationships. The lesbian couple I worked for had a very “open” marriage if you could call it that, even more so than the gay couple. The gay couple I worked for said they respected my being straight, that they “loved me as a friend” for respecting them, but were always offering me and other male employees, booze and pot, to take the “chill” off things. I ignored this personally until one day, about 11 months after I went to work there, they hired this 16 year old kid to bus tables. It was obvious one of the partners had the hots for this teen.. It bothered me, BUT I wrote it off as nun’mybizness..That was, until I walked in on the same owner having his way with the kid in the storage room, during business hours. The kid was drunk and stoned. I don’t consider an underage teen UNDER the influence, simply exploring his sexuality with a 50-plus year old man “normal or okay” do you?…I found another job the next day and turned in my resignation. Good thing. The place got raided for hosting an underage drinking party later that same year.

The lesbian couple was almost as bad. These women were in their late-40′s….At the time, in my 20′s, I didn’t care/pay attention as much to it, BUT they were always were hosting wild parties at their weekend retreat. I was never invited ofcourse. They liked cruising lesbian bars and picking up the pretty, feminine gals.
Actually, I think they gave them money and gifts in exchange BUT what do I know right?

I repeat my point. I’ve found that gays and lesbians seem to be pre-occupied/addicted to sex no differently than heterosexuals can be but in greater numbers. AND the common thread seems to be in recruitment.

As far as “curing” of homosexuallity, I don’t think you can therefore it IS akin to an addiction. Once an alchoholic, always an alchoholic. YET I do believe one can do things to “control” their cravings. We are all tempted by certain things, it is only IF we give-in/subcomb OR allow our minds to actively ponder fantasies of such is there an incompatibility with Christianity.

I might’ve believed this guy if he said “I am a homosexual, but have declared myself celebate” or “assexual” or asking The Lord to help control his urges. But he’s not cured.

One last comment (I can hear the collective sighs of relief). The Bisexual Gals I’ve known. It was ALL about the sex with them. They were Pure-T NYMPHOS every one!…I PROUDLY ADMIT, I was NEVER offended by the advances of them OR their “friends”.

You mean like the story of Middle-Eastern origins about some character with a reputation for being a mystic? A king tells him to prove it or have his head lobbed off. The “mystic” immediately says, “I see strange things – demons under the earth, a golden bird in the sky.” The king asks, “how can you see far into the sky and deep underground?” “Fear is all you need.”

You can follow “God”/”The Tao”/whatever all you want, but according to Lao Tsu, the Tao follows what is natural, so ultimately you are going to follow what is natural (for you) too, even if you manage to suppress it for a while.

I went through a similar experience over 30 years ago. http://gayambassador.blogspot......llege.html

Today we should be more enlightened. http://www.samesame.com.au/fea.....lusion.htm

the tragic thing is that this young man will feel for a while that he might be ‘free’…but will realise in time it was nothing more than an emotional experience mixed with hyperventilation. Then he will either feel that he has failed God or God has failed him. Neither of these are true.

wow. this is truly amazing.

The only thing “amazing” here, is the stupidity and self-righteousness of people like you.

The world is sinful and full of sinful people.

No doubt, you are counting the days until the “Rapture” so that all thjose “sinners” will get what’s coming to them.

It can’t come soon enough to suit me, if it will clear the world of dumb fucks like you.

“You might remember the YouTube clips of the people performing an exorcism on a 16-year-old boy to make him stop having homosexual desires. Well, those got taken down (and who knows, maybe reposted over and over, I haven’t checked lately) by a gay teen advocacy group called True Colors. And I think that’s a good thing. No kid needs that kind of shit following him or her around on the Internet. It’s a hellish enough world out there for a lot of homo teens trapped in cartoonishly superstitious, scare-the-holy-fucking-shit-out-of-you churches (i.e., pretty much all of them, with few exceptions) where the fear of Satan is pounded into their heads. “

The article: http://www.advocate.com/Arts_a.....Beginners/

You just described the first 18 years of my life.

Seriously…please don’t take this out on the kid. Take it from someone who has been exactly where he is now…at 16, being gay and having been raised in such a highly religious-saturated environment, you have no idea the confusion and anguish going on in this kid’s head. The emergence of one’s sexuality can be confusing enough under the best of circumstances…throw on top of that homosexuality, coupled with this religious craziness and it becomes psychotic.

http://gayambassador.blogspot......llege.html

40 years later crazy things still happen even though society and science has moved on….some parts of christendom remain in the dark ages.

Okay, people don’t forget lesbians…they ignore them.

So he will be battling these “temptations” for the rest of his life because it’s “God’s” job to clean him of these temptations. In essence he will be like Larry Craig and Ted Haggard, having sex with men while denying his homosexuality.

I might. I might not. I dont suc…I mean kiss and tell.

You, Sir, are obviously a gentleman. ;o)

(truth be told, i was surprised… in my blindness, i had thought a lot about self-hating gay men, but had forgotten that women could fall prey to the same thing.)

I might. I might not. I dont suc…I mean kiss and tell.

Now, of course, that prayer lasted all of 45 minutes until I ran into a hot cruise spot in Central Park.

Oh! You know about Rambles, Homo Hill and Gulper’s Gulch too, do you? LOL

Not just homosexuality, though. And not all black churches either.

“Beyond the obvious hypocrisy inherent in GOP Senator and Promise Keepers member John Ensign’s recently disclosed extramarital sexual affair, there’s another notable aspect to Ensign’s religious affiliations that has so far escaped public notice: exorcism.

Senator John Ensign belongs to a Pentecostal denomination, the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, that promotes a new health care paradigm in which both physical and psychological maladies can be cured through the casting out of demons. In the new approach, individuals can even heal themselves by exorcising their own demons, through a process that a 2003 Associated Press story characterized as “do it yourself exorcism”

“From John Ensign’s college introduction to the Promise Keepers movement, through the Senator’s current membership in a Las Vegas church within the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel denomination, to his current residence in a house owned by Youth With a Mission, a parachurch evangelical organization founded in 1960 by Loren Cunningham – who espouses a doctrine of Christian infiltration of key societal sectors, Senator Ensign has throughout his political career associated with charismatic Christian religious entities in the forefront of promoting a radical and new approach that is redefining Christian evangelism, which now includes a heavy emphasis on the exorcism of demons as a key to a healthy, productive, and moral life.”

http://www.alternet.org/blogge....._movement/