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	<title>Comments on: The Advocate Declares (Sort of) That &#8220;Gay is the New Black&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Legin</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/the-advocate-declares-sort-of-that-gay-is-the-new-black-20081113/#comment-102000</link>
		<dc:creator>Legin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just read the Advocate article and without necessarily agreeing with all the viewpoints expressed, I find it very thoughtful and thought-provoking. The part that struck me most was the author&#039;s conversation with a taxi driver. I&#039;ll quote it:

&quot;The driver, whose name was Ali, told me he was from Yemen and heâ€™s straight. When a friend recently came to visit him, the two went sightseeing. â€œI took him to City Hall and we saw all these people getting married. We saw men marrying men and women marrying women,â€ Ali said. â€œI was really surprised. They were so happy.â€ [ ]

â€œI have seen bisexuality, gay, lesbian. The sexy parts. I had never seen the love before. But I saw these two guys get married and I realized, This is their happiness.â€ &quot;

Now, the reason I find this interesting is that, as far as I can gather, the no on 8 ads were almost devoid of images of gay married couples and their children. This very conservative (some would say cowardly) approach by the campaign may have cost it many converts -- people like that taxi driver for whom such images and testimonies would have been a revalation. Hiding behind legalistic arguments was never going to make an impresion on the vast majority of voters. For them, the whole prop 8 thing was about whether you were pro or con homosexuality, plain and simple. Without the positive images of same-sex couples and families, those who would have been persuadable had nothing to hold on to. 

Invisibility is not going to win the day. In every campaign, there are those who would be willing to support to underdog. If that dog is hiding under the bed and out of sight, he cannot expect support from anyone. Worse, if gays are perceived to be ashamed of themselves, so much so that they are unwilling to to be upfront about their sexuality in a public campaign, they cannot expect others to step into their shoes and fight their battles for them. 

Fortunately, the public protests and many of the post-prop 8 analyses that I have seen have at least recognized that public visibility is essential to winning this fight. Obama (of god herself) can&#039;t save us if we hide in the shadows. 

But most of all, let&#039;s forget this talk of race and which ethic group voted which way. This is not only nonsensical but dangerously counterproductive. Much like the Republican party, the gay movement is losing groung because its coalition is insufficiently inclusive (did someone say rainbow-like?). You can take your cue from Palin and &quot;energize the base&quot; while driving away everyone else, or you can learn from Obama and run a 50 state (county/district/neighborhood)strategy.

From now on, let&#039;s promote the slogan &quot;We are Family&quot; in every corner of the media and on the streets. Let&#039;s promote images of couples tying the knot and celebrating their marriages/civil unions. Let&#039;s not be afraid to show gay couples raising their children, sending them to school, teaching them to ride their bikes and posing in their graduation pictures. And finally, let&#039;s not be intimidated by the religious right into denying who we really are -- whole human beings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just read the Advocate article and without necessarily agreeing with all the viewpoints expressed, I find it very thoughtful and thought-provoking. The part that struck me most was the author&#8217;s conversation with a taxi driver. I&#8217;ll quote it:</p>
<p>&#8220;The driver, whose name was Ali, told me he was from Yemen and heâ€™s straight. When a friend recently came to visit him, the two went sightseeing. â€œI took him to City Hall and we saw all these people getting married. We saw men marrying men and women marrying women,â€ Ali said. â€œI was really surprised. They were so happy.â€ [ ]</p>
<p>â€œI have seen bisexuality, gay, lesbian. The sexy parts. I had never seen the love before. But I saw these two guys get married and I realized, This is their happiness.â€ &#8221;</p>
<p>Now, the reason I find this interesting is that, as far as I can gather, the no on 8 ads were almost devoid of images of gay married couples and their children. This very conservative (some would say cowardly) approach by the campaign may have cost it many converts &#8212; people like that taxi driver for whom such images and testimonies would have been a revalation. Hiding behind legalistic arguments was never going to make an impresion on the vast majority of voters. For them, the whole prop 8 thing was about whether you were pro or con homosexuality, plain and simple. Without the positive images of same-sex couples and families, those who would have been persuadable had nothing to hold on to. </p>
<p>Invisibility is not going to win the day. In every campaign, there are those who would be willing to support to underdog. If that dog is hiding under the bed and out of sight, he cannot expect support from anyone. Worse, if gays are perceived to be ashamed of themselves, so much so that they are unwilling to to be upfront about their sexuality in a public campaign, they cannot expect others to step into their shoes and fight their battles for them. </p>
<p>Fortunately, the public protests and many of the post-prop 8 analyses that I have seen have at least recognized that public visibility is essential to winning this fight. Obama (of god herself) can&#8217;t save us if we hide in the shadows. </p>
<p>But most of all, let&#8217;s forget this talk of race and which ethic group voted which way. This is not only nonsensical but dangerously counterproductive. Much like the Republican party, the gay movement is losing groung because its coalition is insufficiently inclusive (did someone say rainbow-like?). You can take your cue from Palin and &#8220;energize the base&#8221; while driving away everyone else, or you can learn from Obama and run a 50 state (county/district/neighborhood)strategy.</p>
<p>From now on, let&#8217;s promote the slogan &#8220;We are Family&#8221; in every corner of the media and on the streets. Let&#8217;s promote images of couples tying the knot and celebrating their marriages/civil unions. Let&#8217;s not be afraid to show gay couples raising their children, sending them to school, teaching them to ride their bikes and posing in their graduation pictures. And finally, let&#8217;s not be intimidated by the religious right into denying who we really are &#8212; whole human beings!</p>
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		<title>By: Falc</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/the-advocate-declares-sort-of-that-gay-is-the-new-black-20081113/#comment-98525</link>
		<dc:creator>Falc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people still find it acceptable to waste trees instead of temporary electrons on screens. I&#039;ve long held that paper periodicals are obsolete.  No, I don&#039;t find that I can read a BOOK that way, even one on a handy portable book screen (though I&#039;m open to the possibility if one ever comes along that I don&#039;t have to worry about breaking by dropping it.) But periodicals are inherently timely and, as another wrote, they&#039;ve lately proven grossly out of time and touch by missing the election.  It&#039;s not just the Advocate.  It&#039;s ALL periodical publications.  Once a day is about as far apart as we can tolerate.  Past that, I&#039;d do better going online for current information... and yes, I do prefer to read the NY Times online.  Saves trees, ink, fuel, faster, easier.  I&#039;m not going back to writing on stone tablets anytime soon either.

Are we the new Blacks? Not by a long shot.  We&#039;re the last of the religious repressions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people still find it acceptable to waste trees instead of temporary electrons on screens. I&#8217;ve long held that paper periodicals are obsolete.  No, I don&#8217;t find that I can read a BOOK that way, even one on a handy portable book screen (though I&#8217;m open to the possibility if one ever comes along that I don&#8217;t have to worry about breaking by dropping it.) But periodicals are inherently timely and, as another wrote, they&#8217;ve lately proven grossly out of time and touch by missing the election.  It&#8217;s not just the Advocate.  It&#8217;s ALL periodical publications.  Once a day is about as far apart as we can tolerate.  Past that, I&#8217;d do better going online for current information&#8230; and yes, I do prefer to read the NY Times online.  Saves trees, ink, fuel, faster, easier.  I&#8217;m not going back to writing on stone tablets anytime soon either.</p>
<p>Are we the new Blacks? Not by a long shot.  We&#8217;re the last of the religious repressions.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles J. Mueller</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/the-advocate-declares-sort-of-that-gay-is-the-new-black-20081113/#comment-98511</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles J. Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction:  day s/b say</description>
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		<title>By: Charles J. Mueller</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/the-advocate-declares-sort-of-that-gay-is-the-new-black-20081113/#comment-98509</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles J. Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped reading the Advocate four decades ago.  

They didn&#039;t have anything interesting to day then.  Why should they now? ;-)</description>
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<p>They didn&#8217;t have anything interesting to day then.  Why should they now? ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: CHRIS</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/the-advocate-declares-sort-of-that-gay-is-the-new-black-20081113/#comment-98429</link>
		<dc:creator>CHRIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THAT COVER IS DISGUSTING.BLACK IS BLACK AND GAY IS NOT THE NEW BLK.OBVIOSLY THEY DIDNT INTERVIEW ANY BLKS TO GET THERE OPINION ON THIS.AFTER HEARING WHITE GAYS CALL BLKS NIGGERS OVER PROP 8 YOU ALL REMINDED US WE WERE BLK FIRST GAY SECOND I`M REALLY DISSPOINTED IN THE WHITE GAY COMMUNITY FOR NOT SPEAKING AGAINST THIS TYPE OF INTOLERENCE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THAT COVER IS DISGUSTING.BLACK IS BLACK AND GAY IS NOT THE NEW BLK.OBVIOSLY THEY DIDNT INTERVIEW ANY BLKS TO GET THERE OPINION ON THIS.AFTER HEARING WHITE GAYS CALL BLKS NIGGERS OVER PROP 8 YOU ALL REMINDED US WE WERE BLK FIRST GAY SECOND I`M REALLY DISSPOINTED IN THE WHITE GAY COMMUNITY FOR NOT SPEAKING AGAINST THIS TYPE OF INTOLERENCE.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/the-advocate-declares-sort-of-that-gay-is-the-new-black-20081113/#comment-98419</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you actually read the article, you&#039;ll see that the author is not being insulting to either gays or blacks (or any other group who has had to fight for their civil rights).

It&#039;s a thoughtful article on the urge to compare...and in the end, it&#039;ll do us all more good if we think deeply about these issues and act deliberately rather than simply be reactionary and try to scapegoat any one group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you actually read the article, you&#8217;ll see that the author is not being insulting to either gays or blacks (or any other group who has had to fight for their civil rights).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a thoughtful article on the urge to compare&#8230;and in the end, it&#8217;ll do us all more good if we think deeply about these issues and act deliberately rather than simply be reactionary and try to scapegoat any one group.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/the-advocate-declares-sort-of-that-gay-is-the-new-black-20081113/#comment-97653</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-97579&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tara - Praenomenal&lt;/a&gt;: Tara, most transgendered people certainly are gay (but not all). Gay is still a blanket term and I believe that when magazines use the term &quot;Gay&quot; in their headlines it is to simplify something that is getting way too complicated.
Political correctness has become a dangerous thing. Please, do not be sensitive to the word because it does not sectionalize a small part of the larger community. Keep in mind, one of the things we are fighting for right now is that LGBTQ Americans are Americans first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-97579" rel="nofollow">Tara &#8211; Praenomenal</a>: Tara, most transgendered people certainly are gay (but not all). Gay is still a blanket term and I believe that when magazines use the term &#8220;Gay&#8221; in their headlines it is to simplify something that is getting way too complicated.<br />
Political correctness has become a dangerous thing. Please, do not be sensitive to the word because it does not sectionalize a small part of the larger community. Keep in mind, one of the things we are fighting for right now is that LGBTQ Americans are Americans first.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara - Praenomenal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara - Praenomenal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gay is the New Black: The Last Great Civil Rights Struggle&quot; 

Really? Of course transpeople are not even human yet, some day we can be the new gay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gay is the New Black: The Last Great Civil Rights Struggle&#8221; </p>
<p>Really? Of course transpeople are not even human yet, some day we can be the new gay!</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/the-advocate-declares-sort-of-that-gay-is-the-new-black-20081113/#comment-97556</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NO.@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-97490&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Insulting&lt;/a&gt;: Agreed. It trivializes the struggles of both groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO.@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-97490" rel="nofollow">Insulting</a>: Agreed. It trivializes the struggles of both groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Insulting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Insulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...to blacks and gays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;to blacks and gays.</p>
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		<title>By: Woof</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/the-advocate-declares-sort-of-that-gay-is-the-new-black-20081113/#comment-97487</link>
		<dc:creator>Woof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly it is a typo....GRAY IS THE NEW BLACK...duh</description>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article is actually worth the read and it brings up some legitimate points which complicate the statement many are projecting (&quot;Gay is the New Black).  I had already read it online and now seeing the print cover I think it would&#039;ve been more truthful and relevant to have left the question mark intact.  At the very least it might have been more confrontational and reflective of its author.

Take a read, digest and then take from it what you will because someone does need to clarify our position and how it fits into the long standing traditions of civil rights struggles.  It will also help us to be able to articulate more clearly to the general public because our struggle isn&#039;t the same as the one for black advancement- but neither is it less valid or important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is actually worth the read and it brings up some legitimate points which complicate the statement many are projecting (&#8220;Gay is the New Black).  I had already read it online and now seeing the print cover I think it would&#8217;ve been more truthful and relevant to have left the question mark intact.  At the very least it might have been more confrontational and reflective of its author.</p>
<p>Take a read, digest and then take from it what you will because someone does need to clarify our position and how it fits into the long standing traditions of civil rights struggles.  It will also help us to be able to articulate more clearly to the general public because our struggle isn&#8217;t the same as the one for black advancement- but neither is it less valid or important.</p>
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		<title>By: Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Advocate is irrelevant.

I cancelled my subscription a long time ago.</description>
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<p>I cancelled my subscription a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: ousslander</title>
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		<dc:creator>ousslander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought mustard was the new black for fall!</description>
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		<title>By: GG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have been watching to much Ugly Betty. Wonder how much longer before The Advocate shuts down the magazine. Ad sells for magazine are getting lower and lower.</description>
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		<title>By: seitan-on-a-stick</title>
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		<dc:creator>seitan-on-a-stick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s a magazine? 
Is that those little glass 
huts my cab whizzes by? 

So, does black make me look thinner?</description>
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Is that those little glass<br />
huts my cab whizzes by? </p>
<p>So, does black make me look thinner?</p>
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		<title>By: fredo777</title>
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		<dc:creator>fredo777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do have that Beatles tune stuck in my head now, though.

Thanks for that.

- warbles -</description>
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<p>Thanks for that.</p>
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		<title>By: fredo777</title>
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		<dc:creator>fredo777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feh.</description>
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		<title>By: chgo921</title>
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		<dc:creator>chgo921</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Japhy: I&#039;m a few days late, but welcome to Queerty.  For better or worse, your posts have made me comment more in one week than I probably did in a year with the old editor.  

After reading your post, reading the article, and re-reading your post, I&#039;m confused by a couple of things.  First, why is the highlighted segment &quot;ironic&quot;?  Because the author makes a &quot;bold statement&quot; by taking a position that drag queens aren&#039;t the best spokespeople for a national audience?  Because the people who show up on television -- in drag or not -- are actually dedicated movement organizers?  Because The Advocate should be the gay community&#039;s, um, advocate?  It may be none or all of these things.  I just couldn&#039;t figure it out.

Also, based on your pie chart (which I assume has numbers you pulled out of the air to illustrate a point), less than half of the article says &quot;gay is the new Black.&quot;  Therefore, The Advocate is correct in NOT making a declarative statement about this.  Though to be fair, I disagree with your segments.  I would include &quot;kindly old Black woman&quot; as part of the gay is the new Black segment since she&#039;s equating her civil rights struggles to those of gay people.

Again, for better or worse, you&#039;ve kept me intrigued by what you will post next.  At some point I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll write in because I agree with your post.  Here&#039;s looking forward to that day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japhy: I&#8217;m a few days late, but welcome to Queerty.  For better or worse, your posts have made me comment more in one week than I probably did in a year with the old editor.  </p>
<p>After reading your post, reading the article, and re-reading your post, I&#8217;m confused by a couple of things.  First, why is the highlighted segment &#8220;ironic&#8221;?  Because the author makes a &#8220;bold statement&#8221; by taking a position that drag queens aren&#8217;t the best spokespeople for a national audience?  Because the people who show up on television &#8212; in drag or not &#8212; are actually dedicated movement organizers?  Because The Advocate should be the gay community&#8217;s, um, advocate?  It may be none or all of these things.  I just couldn&#8217;t figure it out.</p>
<p>Also, based on your pie chart (which I assume has numbers you pulled out of the air to illustrate a point), less than half of the article says &#8220;gay is the new Black.&#8221;  Therefore, The Advocate is correct in NOT making a declarative statement about this.  Though to be fair, I disagree with your segments.  I would include &#8220;kindly old Black woman&#8221; as part of the gay is the new Black segment since she&#8217;s equating her civil rights struggles to those of gay people.</p>
<p>Again, for better or worse, you&#8217;ve kept me intrigued by what you will post next.  At some point I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll write in because I agree with your post.  Here&#8217;s looking forward to that day.</p>
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		<title>By: conrad</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is identity politics at its worst and ugliest.  im so tired of lots of white folx saying gay is the new black, as if there arent any queer black people (that bare the brunt of both white supremacy and homophobia)...
  
Bayard Rustin anyone?  

Fuck the advocate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is identity politics at its worst and ugliest.  im so tired of lots of white folx saying gay is the new black, as if there arent any queer black people (that bare the brunt of both white supremacy and homophobia)&#8230;</p>
<p>Bayard Rustin anyone?  </p>
<p>Fuck the advocate.</p>
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		<title>By: Othniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Othniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tim in SF Old habits die hard (:-</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson. Fucking. Cooper.</description>
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		<title>By: Bitch Republic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bitch Republic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep hating on the Mormons. I grew up one. They deserve it.  ;)</description>
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		<title>By: Tim in SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim in SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People still read magazines?</description>
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		<title>By: Othniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Othniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone save the Advocate issue (Rachel Maddow cover) which came in the mail (at least to me) today.

No issue of any print media ever will show how the entire medium is becoming obsolete better then this magazine which arrived Nov 13, after the most important election ever faced by its constituency on Nov. 4, with nary a mention of the election.

The fact the editors did one of the most tremendous jobs I have ever seen of keeping the on line Advocate up to date only intensifies the point.

This is education for America, not gay, not straight, not even poultry.  But sure to be discussed in journalism and political science classes for decades, and a magazine issue perhaps as valuable as the X-Men # 1 my mother threw away (along with my Bob Gibson cards) went I went off to college to become a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone save the Advocate issue (Rachel Maddow cover) which came in the mail (at least to me) today.</p>
<p>No issue of any print media ever will show how the entire medium is becoming obsolete better then this magazine which arrived Nov 13, after the most important election ever faced by its constituency on Nov. 4, with nary a mention of the election.</p>
<p>The fact the editors did one of the most tremendous jobs I have ever seen of keeping the on line Advocate up to date only intensifies the point.</p>
<p>This is education for America, not gay, not straight, not even poultry.  But sure to be discussed in journalism and political science classes for decades, and a magazine issue perhaps as valuable as the X-Men # 1 my mother threw away (along with my Bob Gibson cards) went I went off to college to become a man.</p>
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