When coming to the defense of Carrie Prejean, her supporters are often quick to point out that her stance on gay marriage is the same as President Obama’s: It shouldn’t happen. The analogy is, on its face, accurate.
But not complete. Obama declared his support for civil unions; Prejean doesn’t know where she stands.
Obama said he wants same-sex marriage laws left up to the states; Prejean said she wants marriage reserved only for heterosexual couples, no matter if it’s state or federal government deciding.
Obama said he does not support outright bans on same-sex marriage; by teaming up with the National Organization for Marriage, Prejean implicitly supports the organization’s message to create laws and constitutional amendments to ban the practice.
How about we take this to the next level?
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osocubano
Enough with the bimbo already!
Kevin@BGFH
Obama also come out against California’s Prop 8, which our side failed to capitalize on. Prejean obviously voted for it.
That said … I have to agree with @osocubano. Unless there’s some new revelation, let’s let her fade into obscurity.
The Lesbian Mafia
It’s so funny how a half black person who ran on being African American, who himself would not have been allowed to marry anyone at all just a few decades ago is a bigot on the issue of marriage civil rights. The hypocrisy is astounding.
A big difference between Carrie and Barack is … Carrie is a 21 year old kid who goes to a christian college. Barack is a person who holds the highest office in the land, has parents who would have been directly affected by Jim Crowe and anti-Black anti-miscegenation laws. Today he rightfully enjoys the right to use the same rest room as every one else, drink from the same water fountain, and benefit from an Ivy league education. The level of hypocrisy in his bigotry and anti-gay position on marriage civil rights is 10x more hypocriful and offensive than someone who does not have a direct connection with that shameful part of American history.
For LGBT to continue to give stunning passes to any race, religion or any other anti-gay voiced voters based the fact that they are “Democrats” or “Liberals” is bold faced hypocrisy. People are watching and I fear the gay community will pay the piper for refusing to critisize the president on this issue and hold him accountable for his open bigotry instead of getting on their knees every day to defend it and kiss his boots.
There will ALWAYS be emergencies and crisis. He has had pletny of time to escalate the war OF terror after promising to end it, sending an unpresidented 17,000 troops to Afghanistan and there will be 100,000 by the end of the year, continuing this from the “anti-war” guy who promised to end the war. He has had time to EXPAND the Patriot act after pledgeding to end it, and he continues to find time and trillions of dollars in tax payer money bail out his elite friends, the richest men on the planet, while Americans continue to lose their jobs.
If the small portion of gays would like to continue to put Barack Obama’s presidency over thier civil rights, then at least be honest about it. Don’t pretend you have a shred of self-esteem. CHANGE isn’t going to come from the Obama idol worshippers, it is going to come from those with the guts to speak out against his bigotry no matter how “popular” and “trendy” it is to adore him, ignore the counter-productive part of the LGBTQ that think they can see into Obama’s soul thinking that he loves them because he invited them to the back of the back on an Easter Egg hunt, and continue keep the pressure on him. It will be our voices that will get this administrations ear, not his servants.
What a hypocrite.
D.C
@Kevin@BGFH:
Actually, the yes on Prop 8 sent mailers to minorities on Obama’s position on same sex marriage.
And Lesbian Mafia, you give lesbians a really bad name by constantly race-baiting. How do you live with yourself?
The Lesbian Mafia
@D.C: Ywan. Please, everyone who doesn’t support Barack’s bigotry has been called a racist a million times over. It’s so over-used and pathetic, no one even pays attention to it anymore.
Obama is an anti-gay and sexist bigot. Thanks then.
Ousslander
@The Lesbian Mafia: Well said on both comments. Cheers!
samsam
@The Lesbian Mafia: THE BLACK GUY IS PRESIDENT . NOW GO HANG ON A TISSUE! OR SWITCH OVER TO GOP. OH WAIT, DID THEY NOT ALSO JUST CHOOSE ANOTHER BLACK GUY TO BE THEIR LEADER?(ALTHOUGH I DONT KNOW FOR HOW LONG?.YOU ARE JUST MAD COZ IN THE WHITE WORLD YOU ARE CONSIDERED NOBODY COZ YOU ARE A HOMOSEXUAL. AND NOW YOU ARE ANGRY COZ SOME BLACK GUY HOLD THE POWER AND YOU ARE STILL A NOBODY.
Carolyne
@samsam: Thank you, you say it so perfectly! The lesbian mafia always makes lesbian look like racists, which we rarely are.
Dave
FYI…lol, not everyone that hails from San Diego is a hater like Prejean and Papa Doug. LOL I’m still skeptical about Obama though.
atdleft
@samsam: Whoa! You’re fierce! 😀
@The Lesbian Mafia: Please, no more race baiting? Pretty please?
The Lesbian Mafia
@Ousslander: Thanks love. Checking out your blog.
It’s a knee-jerk response when they can’t argue an issue and feel threatened, they just resort to calling you a racist LOL.
The Lesbian Mafia
Barack is a bigot.
Have a nice day.
Gotta run but this has been fun.
ex oh’s.
The Lesbian Mafia
@Carolyne: sweet caroline you sound like the RAAAAAAAAAAAAACISSSSSSSSSSSSST!
OBAMA IS A BIGOT.
Fact is we will never stop calling the bigot a bigot.
Bigot Obama will always be called a bigot in our house until he changes his bigot positions.
We don’t like bigots.
You can scream RAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST all you want sweet tart but we will never stop calling Barack on his bigotry.
Bye bye now gotta go get some coins.
John Travers
The truth is the truth. Barack Obama really does have some pair to come out against Prop 8. That is bigotted. His zombie supporters better get used to us calling him a bigot and recognizing that he has rights because America did the right thing.
Barack Obama better stand up.
BOBBYLEE
@The Lesbian Mafia: SAY IT WITH ME. PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!. THE SKINNY BLACK BOY WITH A FUNNY NAME IS POTUS AND YOU ARE STILL A LESBIAN MAFIA. IT SUCKS TO BE YOU NO WONDER YPOU ARE SO ANGRY. YOU CAN HATE HIM ALL YOU WANT. YOU ARENOT ALONE, YOU HAVE FOX NEWS ON YOUR SIDE, YOU KNOW, THE #1 NEWS CHANNEL? DESPITE THE COMBINED HATE, HE IS STILL VERY POPULAR. AND BTW, YOU THINK THIS PRES GIVES A SHIT WITH ALL THE NAMECALLING? HANNITY GAVE HIM A THICK SKIN DURING THE CAMPAIGN SO AGAIN GO GET SOME COINS HON
cricket
A bigot is a person who is intolerant of or takes offense to the opinions, lifestyles or identities differing from his or her own, and bigotry is the corresponding attitude or mindset. Bigot is often used as a pejorative term to describe a person who is obstinately devoted to prejudices, especially when these views are either challenged, or proven to be false or not universally applicable or acceptable.
Obama, has not shown he is intolerant or takes offense to gays, to their lifestyles, or to anyone who identifies as something different than he is. He is not devoted to banning same-sex marriage, even though there are many organizations out there fighting for the ban. His views are challenged and not universally acceptable… although, he does NO actively live as a bigot.
Michelle
@Kevin@BGFH: Yeah, IF she even actually knew how to vote here in Calif. Those butterfly ballots might be too advanced for this broad…
timncguy
@The Lesbian Mafia: you are CLOSE to being correct. But, Obama would have been able to marry a black woman. Because. back in the day, anyone with ONE DROP of black blood was considered black. His white heritage would not have counted for anything.
John Travers
@samsam: LOL Obamaniac’s are some really emotionally hostile people when you tell the truth about Barack Obama’s bigot position on civil marriage rights. Well they better get used to it. The gay community is waking up slowly but surely. We laugh when you call people racists while Barack Obama is against our civil rights. LOL that is so funny.
Take a Xanax hypocrite, you’re going to catch an aneurysm. The race card is tired most of us voted for Barack Obama. Try sounding intelligent and actually arguing the position. Barack Obama is a bigot and he better speak to the growing majority of the gay community who is increasingly offended and hurt by his poistions.
Gay people are killed on our streets just for being gay or trans. Get with it.
John Travers
@timncguy: Black people were not allowed to marry each other. Brush up on your histroy.
Lex
Gay people are killed on our streets? Is that on the corner of 5th and LaLa Land?
Marty
“Prejean doesn’t know where she stands” because she wants marriage to be “Biblically correct” — there are many versions of marriage in The Bible, many of them outlawed in this present day. That has to be confusing for her!
Tony
Gosh, I guess calling a person of color a bigot makes one a racist. Wow. I guess it is okay to see LGBT as deserving fewer rights than heterosexual people, and if the person feeling this way is a person of color, you better not call that person a bigot, or you will insta-magically become a racist. Now I get it. Praise Obama!
LOL!
Obama is an anti-gay bigot.
1) He stated that he is against same sex marriage because and I quote “God is in the mix.
2) He campaigned with anti-gay bigot Donny McClurkin and Mary Mary.
3) He loves, loves, loves his Ricky Warren.
4) He seems to be ignoring the HIV pandemic.
Wake up. Stop looking for a savior. Work to save yourself. And for God’s sake, don’t think Obamabigot is your Jesus. He is not.
timncguy
@cricket: There is no such thing as a gay “lifestyle”. LGBT people have many different lifestyles in the same way that heterosexuals have many different lifestyles.
Some LGBTs live a country lifestyle, some urban, some suburban. Some life a family lifestyle with a partner and may even be raising children or taking care oftheir elderly parents. Some live a lifestyle of drinking, drugging and partying, some do not. Some live a wealthy lifestyle, some a middle class lifestyle and some struggle in poverty. Some like to travel, other like to stay close to home and participate in their communities through volunteer work(no not the gay community specifically). Other life an “activist” lifestyle working constantly for equality.
I would dare say that most LGBTs life the same type of normal lifestyle as the average heterosexual does. They get up and go to work or school. Come home, make dinner, keep their homes clean. Do grocery shopping. Pay their bills and their taxes. Maybe go out once in a while for a meal or a movie. Visit with friends and relatives. Go for a vacation once or twice a year. Just your standard day to day activities making a life for yourself and getting by.
Your “lifestyle” is not defined by your sexual orientation. Just because the anti-gay bigots use the term “lifestyle” as a perjorative, doesn’t mean we have to buy into it and repeat it.
timncguy
@John Travers: Oh, really? You need to read more carefully. I think the reference is to more recent laws forbidding marriage BETWEEN races. Not all the way back to the time of slavery. Especially since the comment SPECIFICALLY says “just a FEW decades ago”.
JakeG
I too am disappointed by Barack Obama coming out against gay marriage.
I’m disappointed he had Pastor Warren bless his inauguration when he was a key player in passing Prop 8. That really made me wake up.
I’m disapointed in his giving a platform to McClurkin.
I’m disappointed that he has changed his language on DADT, now using the word “change” rather than “reapeal”.
I’m disappointed that we are making great strides on the civil right to marry in this country without any encouragement from our president who ran on change and hope.
I am disappointed in the bail outs.
Barack Obama has said he may be on the wrong side of history. Well congratulations to you Barack Obama for acknowledging that you are a bigot.
Paul
@Tony: Great post. You know the Obots try to pounce on you when you speak the truth about Obama’s bigotry. They try to silence you when you tell the truth about his bigot positions on civil rights. Pulling the race card has lost it’s affect. I’m happy there are blogs like queerty with the stones to tell it and I agree with the lesbian mafia’s comment 100% The audacity of someone who knows what bigotry does to a human being, to know it intrinsically and yet have the nerve to hold anti-gay positions on gay civil rights is really something else. Hypocritical bigotry will not get Barack Obama my vote a second time.
DEEDEE
THE WORD BIGOT IS OVERUSED BY GAY PEOPLE. WHY DO YOU THINK THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA DOES NOT TAKE US TOO SERIOUSLY.
Tony
When a person takes abuse and returns to the abuser over and over again, it is usually because that person has little self-respect. We in the LGBT Community keep returning to Obama every time he slaps us in the face. Worse yet, we offer him excuses time and time again, and even worse than that, we attack those who think that he should stop slapping us in the face. Very pathetic.
LGBT people need to grow a backbone and develop some self-respect. We deserve the same rights as every other person. Simple. Basic. Fair.
If a leader had the same positions Obama has on LGBT issues directed at racial, ethnic, or religious minorities, we would be outraged. Yet it is okay to call outright bigotry, hatred and discrimination against LGBT people merely a difference of opinion.
Sad.
DEEDEE
@Paul: WHO ARE YOU GONNA VOTE FOR? GOP? THEY THINK YOU ARE SCUM AND LIKE JOE THE PLUMBER SAID- HE CANT LET A HOMOSEXUAL NEAR HIS CHILDREN. SO I’M SURE OBAMA WILL SURVIVE EVEN WITHOUT THE GAY VOTE. I HOPE ALL LGBT GIVE GOP THEIR VOTE . GO JOE THE PLUMBER!
timncguy
@Tony: you are 100% correct.
Obama’s statement that “God is in the mix” with marriage is just uninformed and ignorant. God is specifically EXCLUDED from the “mix” in CIVIL marriage.
One of the legislators who spoke against marriage equality in Maine used Obama’s statements as a way to try to prove that marriage is not a civil rights issue. He said that since Obama is against marriage equality and is also a civil rights advocate and a constitutional law expert, then marriage equality CANNOT be a civil rights issue or Obama would support it.
It’s just great to have the president’s own stated position used in this way and at the same time to have Obama not come out after that and make some sort of statement slapping that idiot down. So, the only thing you can take from it is that Obama agrees that marriage equality is NOT a civil rights issue.
Chitown Kev
@Tony:
If you substituted “Democratic Party” for “Obama” I would almost completely agree with you.
Tony
DEEDEE,
Read the front page of the New York Times yesterday. They pointed out all the ways Obama has dismissed the LGBT Community and issues related to HIV/AIDS. Basically they pointed out his bigotry. An editorial at Time.com called Obama a bigot on LGBT issues. NY Time and Time.com ARE the main stream media. It does not take a rocket scientist or even a person with more than a two-digit I.Q. to read the writing on the wall when it comes to Obama and the LGBT Community. He is a bigot, plain and simple.
As much as you may want your savior to love you, his actions speak louder than words. And his words aren’t too nice either. “I oppose same sex marriage because God is in the mix.”
WTF. He is stating that God thinks that LGBT people, their relationships and their families are LESS THAN heterosexual people, their relationships and their families. What part of BIGOT do you not comprehend?!?!
timncguy
@DEEDEE: If anyone said the kinds of things about balcks taht they say about LGBT people, they would be called BIGOTS and no one would blink an eye.
The attitude that gays can’t call people who use the same language against us bigots, just proves that it is all too acceptable in society to crap on LGBTs and hide behind “religion” as a shield.
That same religious shield was used against blacks in the past. It was wrong than and it is wrong NOW.
JamesJames
To come call Carrie Prejean all kinds of names like she is the anti-Christ, when Barack Obama is clearly in support of Proposition 8 is hypocritical.
Prejean is nobody.
Obama is our president, and it really matters when HE holds bigotted beliefs and uses his position as president to maintain a bigotted position against our civil rights. It also is more offensive coming from him because half of his lineage is African American, and for someone who must understand what bigotry is and how shameful it is, I find it especially hurtful and hypocritical. He preached Change for 2 years. He made us beleive his promises and got a majority of our votes. If we don’t hold him to his promises and instead defend him when he is being bigotted, then who will speak for our civil rights if we don’t?
Tony
@timncguy Great point. Obama is Constitutional Law scholar. He seems to be ignoring the concept of Equal Protection when it comes to one group, LGBT people.
Tony
BTW DEE DEE,
Posting in all CAPS amounts to screaming on the internet. When a person screams, that person obviously has lost control and is communicating from a place of emotion rather than reason. Just sayin’.
JamesJames
@Tony: LOL
*BTW DEE DEE,
Posting in all CAPS amounts to screaming on the internet. When a person screams, that person obviously has lost control and is communicating from a place of emotion rather than reason. Just sayin’ *
Tony
@Chitown Kev
I actually feel that the Democats have thrown the LGBT Community under the bus many times. I am for supporting individual candidates who support FULL EQUALITY for LGBT people. Being a member of the one group denied basic civil rights means that my first concern is supporting those who will work to make me no longer a second-class citizen.
The Dems have gotten almost unquestioned support from the LGBT Community. They now need to earn our support because we cannot afford the luxury of giving to those who willingly sacrifice us when needed.
DEEDEE
@Tony</let me try it in small letters. obama is 3 months old, when dadt is revorked will we still see the blatant racism on the blogs.clinton brought dadt, not obama. and in 4 years we have a choice to vote for the most gay friendly candidate on the ballot and i hope for your sanity that its not a black person, so that you can feel abit more powerful
davon
OMG! DEEDEE whoever you are, you rock! and you are right. a person of color in the WH makes a gay racist feel little, because they are despised in their community and they feel that having a black dude as the most powerful man in the world makes them even less significant.they seem to forget that there is still institutional racism. black people still suffer. can that fact make you sleep better at night?
Tony
“He preached Change for 2 years. He made us beleive his promises and got a majority of our votes. If we don’t hold him to his promises and instead defend him when he is being bigotted, then who will speak for our civil rights if we don’t?”
@JamesJames,
Exactly! He also stated that he would do the “right thing” even if doing so would have political consequences. If this is true, then I guess that ignoring, dismissing and denying LGBT people basic civil rights is the “right thing” in the mind of Obama.
If he is putting our basic rights aside because it is the “smart thing” to do, because their would be political consequences, then he is a liar, directly contradicting what he said earlier.
He is either a liar, or he feels that discriminating against LGBT people when it comes to basic civil rights is the “right thing” to do.
Either way, he is no friend of the LGBT Community. As a friend of mine once said “With friends like Obama, who needs enemas!”
JamesJames
@DEEDEE: your sporadic postings show you to be emotionally out of control. we hope for your sanity that you go do your part in trying to end the rampant bigotted homophobia that is widespread within the african american, latino, asian, caucasian and christian community.
Tony
DEE DEE,
What makes you assume I am not a person of color? Check your logic. Check your facts. Check your spelling.
Tony
DEE DEE,
I forgot to add:
Check your meds!
Monique
@davon: I happen to be a black lesbian. I no longer support Barack Obama. After he pulled that shit with Rick Warren praying for his presidency and took a second a look and have been paying much closer attention. Nobody cares about Barack’s azz being half black. Stop embarrassing the fuck out of me up on here. The gay community voted for his azz stupid asses. Obama ain’t done sheet for my azz and is changing his shit up on DADT, DOMA, HIV which affects not only the gay community but the African American community also, he isn’t even talking about ENDA, he has all kinds of bytches that are homophobic sniffing his ass. So please to the the ignant azzes git your fucken education and stop embarrassing the fuck out of me screaming at bitches who voted for him.
Tony
Oops! My bad. I used “their” instead of there. “because their would be political consequences,”
At least I didn’t do it in ALL CAPS.
Tony
@Monique,
Excellent points.
John from England(used to be just John but there are other John's)
@Chitown Kev:
This again?
Zzzzzz….
[email protected]
@Tony: Everything was so perfect in my world until everyone started to wake up and see that My Little Obama Pony is a homophobic bigot like the rest of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_rIAkb_v8
Chitown Kev
@John from England(used to be just John but there are other John’s):
Yep. Hasn’t the Labour Party done same thing, to a degree?
Chitown Kev
@Monique:
Girl, you rock!
christian
@Monique: on an anonymous blog I will believe you are black when i see you.
Monique
@christian: Please bytch. nobody gives a shyt whatchu think. All I give a fuq about is these psychotic mother fuqers coming up on here speaking for my azz when they need some Zoloft. Bych is probably white as a hospitical sheet talking about bytches is racist when most of our azzes voted for him. I’m just sayin I don’t support him anymore and I have no problem voting third party next election.
lileasy
@Monique: Monique, I love you.
BradK
I’ve said all along that The Messiah is nothing more than The Dog With Two Bones. He thinks he can win over both the LGBT community and the “Evangelical” WASPs by selectively lying to each side. The former is beginning to awake to the truth, while the latter will never truly accept him. Eventually He will be left with nothing but His reflection staring back at Him.
And the Obamatrons will love Him for it.
michael
At one time Obama was for marriage equality. But then came the opportunity to be president and that stance changed to align itself with the prevailing Christian attitude.
Obama changed his belief to get a job.
There was once a Miss California, who had an opportunity to become Miss America, when asked what her stance on marriage equality, she took the prevailing Christian attitude and said she was against it. One difference is that she said that is what she always believed. So at least she has integrity.
So no, they are not the same. One stands on what they believe, be it based in ignorance, but does stand with her values. Even if it did contribute to her loss.
One is willing to do what is necessary to get what they want. Even if humans suffer similar consequences that they should be empathic to based on their own life experiences.
Many leaders from the civil rights movement of the 60’s have come out and said that denying our rights is wrong. To bad Obama could not have enough faith in himself to believe that he might of won his job without oppressing another.
This is why he will ultimately not succeed in his position. God will not be mocked. Karma spins to fast these days. You cannot oppress another in order to elevate yourself, it no longer works. But just as people were blind and foolish about our former president, only to see in the end that those who spoke out about his immoral deeds were true, so will it be with this president. That is the lesson we are in, opposites are not always opposites. Too bad because Obama is probably the closest thing to a successful world leader than we have seen in a long time.
Chitown Kev
@michael:
For the record, the switch happened prior to his Senate run in 2004. and not in campaigning for the Presidency. But it wasn’t because “god is in the mix” then.
Chitown Kev
Just for the record: Barack Obama (2004)
WCT: One of the things that supporters of the state gay-rights bill have been saying is that some of the supporters of certain Senate candidates, yourself included, were not coming out full force for the Senate bill this time. Do you feel there’s a litmus test for people whose supporters aren’t fully 100%?
Obama: You raise an important point. Although your initial question was whether there’s been a backlash against me, I see none of that within the Democratic Party. I think there are still geographical differences in terms of attitude toward gay and lesbian issues. I think downstate, there is a difference. On the Southwest Side, the Northwest Side of Chicago, where the Catholic Church is still a significant institution, there is a difference. And, to a certain extent, within the African-American community, because of the strong affiliation with the church, there is still some resistance.
WCT: Do you have a position on marriage vs. civil unions?
Obama: I am a fierce supporter of domestic-partnership and civil-union laws. I am not a supporter of gay marriage as it has been thrown about, primarily just as a strategic issue. I think that marriage, in the minds of a lot of voters, has a religious connotation. I know that’s true in the African-American community, for example. And if you asked people, ‘should gay and lesbian people have the same rights to transfer property, and visit hospitals, and et cetera,’ they would say, ‘absolutely.’ And then if you talk about, ‘should they get married?’, then suddenly …
http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gay/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=3931
Chitown Kev
But I have never noted that in 2004 he used the qualifier “as it has been thrown about.”
No God in the micx there.
THIS is why I am disappointed in Obama.
Alec
@Chitown Kev: “God in the mix” and many other comments at the Saddleback forum were bad, but he doesn’t seem to be out of the Democratic mainstream to me. Senator Kerry had a worse mixed message in 2004 (particularly with how he fumbled the Missouri marriage amendment) and President Clinton’s suggestion that he embrace the ant-gay bigot amendments in 2004 was beyond the pale.
That being said…they need to just come out in favor of marriage equality. I don’t think it will actually cost them significant votes, and it is the right thing for all of them to do, and I don’t really care what their religious preferences are. They know better.
Chitown Kev
@Alec:
Hmm. I can just imagine one of those old church sisters forgetting about the fact that they actually had a walker when Obama said that.
“Oh, my baby said GAWD is in the mix. Thank you, Jesus! HALLEUJAH! [Stomps feet, raises hands, bows head}
Obama’s use of “God in the mix” was a clear pander to religious voters though and not in line with the Barack Obama that I’ve known and admired for over a decade though.
allison
@The Lesbian Mafia: Dear Lesbian Mafia, YOU ARE CORRECT! just yesterday i took part in a rally on behalf of Dan Choi held at UCI. i was bashing Obama verbally to a few of my gay/lesbian friends about how he should have NOT said what he did to Rick/Dick Warren during the debate at Saddleback CITY! (i can remember where i was standing when i heard him say to the penner of Purpose Driven Hate, that he in fact did not support same-gender marriage. i nearly vomited.) exactly what has he done for the LGBT community? nothing. and how hard did LGBT work for him? Pretty darned hard folks! He asked Dick to speak at his inauguration, giving Dick a step up in status. Would Obama have asked Lester Maddox, George Wallace, or David Duke to speak? Would he have slapped the black community or the Jewish community like that? Gracious NO! And now, he has placed the rights of illegal aliens next on his agenda. God, they’re not even citizens! While national heros like Dan Choi are burned at the stake by our own government. MAN UP OBAMA! anyway, my point is, that my “Obama ain’t keeping his word” message was lost on my fellow protesters. neither an eyebrow raised, nor an unkind word was spoken …like a deer in headlights. wake up peeps! WAKE UP!
Tony
“Hmm. I can just imagine one of those old church sisters forgetting about the fact that they actually had a walker when Obama said that.
“Oh, my baby said GAWD is in the mix. Thank you, Jesus! HALLEUJAH! [Stomps feet, raises hands, bows head}”
@ Chitown Kev:
I just laughed so hard I cried!
The good news is that marriage equality opinions vary greatly along generational lines. One out of three people over 65 die every year. Many of these Jesus freaks will be meeting Jesus face to face before the next election. They are a dying breed and Obama is aligning himself with a group and a mindset that won’t be around for long.
Those of us who are of a younger generation will remember how DJ Obama remixed our rights (“God is in the mix…”) and we will be alive and able enough to support those who support our rights.
Those old bigoted idiots will be meeting their maker “real soon”. I can’t wait.
Amen.
Tony
“MAN UP OBAMA!” @· allison
There is a new documentary film called “Outrage”. The film shows how closeted politicians choose anti-gay positions as a way of camoflaging (sp?) their hidden (down-low) sexual orientation. I have often wondered if some of Obama’s outward homophobia may be a means to conceal some things he does not want revealed. Downlowbama maybe?!?!
Now most of these politicians on the down-low are Republican, but Obama has views on the LGBT Community that are certainly in line with the social consevatives (many of whom are Democrats). I wonder.
Chitown Kev
@Tony:
Don’t get me wrong, I am not hatin’ on the old church ladies…I just know ’em.
Some of those old church ladies are some of the most beautiful and dignified women that you could ever get to know.
Tony
I like old church ladies too, especially when they don’t try and vote away my basic rights. May they live long lives and die of natural causes (preferably before the next election).
Jonhy
I swear I am disappointed in dems altogether, even Hillary who is usually on our side is now quiet, her hubby started this mess. she doesn’t have to fear any re-election backlash, why is she not putting pressure on barack? huh? I am voting for GOP next time. I am a gay republican and I am proud of it
Alec
@Tony: The only view he has in common with them is their view on marriage. Everything else they find unacceptable, from hate crimes to employment discrimination to civil unions.
fitc
Even the European press recognize the Obamas’ first 100 days marker as rife with broken promises,
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/james_delingpole/blog/2009/04/28/barack_obama_already_less_popular_than_nixon_or_carter_quelle_surprise_not
allison
OMG! “i” am an old church lady! a straight old church lady, with a hat on that’s blocking your view of the pulpit 🙂 really, i am! and i’m not voting anyone’s rights away. in fact, i’m on here trying to gather info that’s virtually unavailable elsewhere. because what do i do with my free time? i PROTEST inequality! (and attend church). MORE WORK AND LESS BITCHIN PEOPLE!
Michael W.
@fitc: “Even the European press,” LOL. It’s the Rupert Murdoch-owned Daily Telegraph.
Not surprised to see you quoting it.
Tony
@Alec
@Tony: The only view he has in common with them is their view on marriage. Everything else they find unacceptable, from hate crimes to employment discrimination to civil unions.
I agree.
Ousslander
I’m talking about a fight where thw other pweson start qith the faggot stuff not when just pissed off angry. Like i qould not use racial curse during an argument or if someone just pisses me off. You call me a name i will return the favour. I would not pisses if they reacted to being called a nigger by calling that person a cracker, redneck or white trash. If they or you do not like me defending myself too bad
Chitown Kev
@Ousslander:
Whether we like or not, there really is more of a social stigma in using racial epithets and it does not make our community look good AT ALL. I do get your point, though.
I would prefer, personally, if “breeder” were understood and accepted as a pretty lethal sexual epithet to toss back but it’s not there….yet.
fitc
@Michael W.: doesn’t matter where the truth comes from. you can google all you want, sugar plum. the facts are the facts.
Trey
@Ousslander: Are you responding to the Mike Epps thread?
Lex
The man has been in office for 100 days, not 3 years. You all need to calm down.
If his term was over and he hadn’t followed through on his promises then I’d agree, but 100 days? Get real.
Likewise he never promised to allow gay marriage, he said he didn’t believe in it from the beginning, he’s for civil unions.
Try knowing what you’re getting irate about beforehand. Obama isn’t homophobic.
I know this is going to be a shocker, but not everyone is going to be in favor of gay marriage…and that’s ok! Don’t act like a child just because not everyone agrees with your opinion. There are some gays who are against gay marriage, are they homophobic too? Grow up. People are entitled to their opinions, even the President.
Matthew Rettenmund
I’m just wondering: When Barack Obama rescinds the ban on gay people servingin the military AND “don’t ask, don’t tell,” when he stacks the courts over the next (hopefully) eight years with liberal-minded judges, when he continues to say that gay people are equals (as he has during his most-viewed speeches) and when he presides over a period in history when the states move toward gay marriage, leading to half the states sanctioning it within the next few years…what will you think of next to hate him for?
I can empathize with being disappointed even if it’s premature, and I can relate to being worried since he has not said a lot lately even as major gay-rights decisions are flying right and left. But I can not understand the vitriolic reaction, nor does it make ANY KIND OF SENSE to presume that he is a closet bigot who, if he had his druthers, would deny gays and lesbians any rights at all.
It’s a fantasy world you’re living in.
sparkle obama
@samsam:
>> THE BLACK GUY IS PRESIDENT . NOW GO HANG ON A TISSUE! OR SWITCH OVER TO GOP. OH WAIT, DID THEY NOT ALSO JUST CHOOSE ANOTHER BLACK GUY TO BE THEIR LEADER?(ALTHOUGH I DONT KNOW FOR HOW LONG?.YOU ARE JUST MAD COZ IN THE WHITE WORLD YOU ARE CONSIDERED NOBODY COZ YOU ARE A HOMOSEXUAL. AND NOW YOU ARE ANGRY COZ SOME BLACK GUY HOLD THE POWER AND YOU ARE STILL A NOBODY.<<
you.hit.the.nail.on.the.head, loca.
haters are too transparent!
it’s not going to work, assh*les!
sparkle obama
@DEEDEE:
say it again.
Chris_Yes that one
OKAY Ms Lesbionic Muffinasia,
OKAY Barack is a bigot and you have your issues as well. But since anyone who as you say defends Obama against these attacks are calling them “racists”?
How many Black women are in The Lesbian Mafia? Let me take a real big guess= ZERO
Girl please. Since you don’t like him that much spewing all this ANGER with a personal agenda. Just simply Vote Republican,Liberterian,Gayatarian,Independant,etc
OR
You can vote for
The Lesbian Mafia
Whenever someone doesn’t worship Bigot Obama, the Obots can’t defned his bigotry because he is so obviously a bigot so they resort to the usual unsophisticated embarrassments of screaming RAAAAAAAACIST! It is so utterly embarrassing for you argument and so over-used, o one takes you serious, no one cares, it’s laughable and you hurt Bigot Obama even more.
We know you would like to try to twist our intentions but you ahve to understand, no everyone is a simpleton, k? We are based in NYC. The default way of life here is diversity. We don’t see color the way racists like you do. You have one freind that might be a different race and you think you deserve a medal for it, LMAO.
To answer you question. The answer would be two are African Americans who guest whenever I ask because they are personal friends of ours for over 15 years but we don’t see them by their color like you do. Some are Hispanic, Caucasian, European, etc. we are a motley crew and a very diverse group. However, none of us like open bigots like Barack who support Prop 8, like Barack. We don’t appreciate Hillary Clinton’s silence on the passing of marriage in what is now 5 states, either.
We already know who Republicans are but we have a newfound distates for the bigotry and hypocrisiy of the Democratic party as well. So no matter how hard to try to twist our intentions my dear, we have over 70,000 downloads that sit and listen to us for a half an hour whenever we decide to open our mouths and have an extremely mixed and supportive demographic, because we are inclusive, hilarious and much smarter than you.
Do your research before you tell people about themselves but thanks for giving me the opportunity to plug our program on one of our favorite websites!
And Barack Obama is a bigot. An open homophobe.
Prop 8 DOMA, DADT, ENDA …. tell your lapdog to the rich, war monger, bigot president, that a growing number of the gay community will continue to call him a bigot and we don’t care how the Obots continue to embarrass themselves screaming RAAAAAAAAAACIST when he is a BIIIIIIIIIGOT!
Have a great one. Gotta run now.
Toots!
The Lesbian Mafia
@Lex: Barack Obigot
The Lesbian Mafia
@Chris_Yes that one: Hey Chris _ YES THAT ONE!
Why don’t you ask how many gay people pick for his cabinet!
[email protected]
@The Lesbian Mafia: @Chris_Yes that one:
Barack Obama picked ZERO gay members to his cabinet. Not one.
ZERO. ZIP!
And four women LMAO.
CHANGE! HOPE! UNITY! Sing it yall!
You are too much Lesbian Mafia. Excellent points.
Bill Perdue
@Chitown Kev: You can’t differentiate between Obama and the leaders (as opposed to mistaken and often clueless followers) of the Democrat Party or the Republican Party.
Obama and both parties have the same program, which concerning us is to promote and escalate the war, feed the looter rich and maintain bigotry as a divide and rule tool for them.
The racist war for oil mobilized the right and promotes repressive legislation with mass phone and computer wiretaps, concentration camps (open and hidden) and practices like “extraordinary rendition” or kidnap, torture and murder. We are often the victims of such laws when they run out of ‘commies’ or ‘terrorists’ to hunt.
The war, Obama’s war, promotes the mass murder of GLBT folks in Iran and Iraq and the racist mass murders of muslims in Palestine, Afghanistan and Pakistan plus the genocide in Iraq.
Obama and both parties also promote the total economic dominance of the looter class who are using the recession maybe depression to fire unprotected workers using the formula ‘last hired, first fired’ with a vengeance against minorities including the LGBT minority and women.
Obama and both parties make minimum concessions but continue to actively promote bigotry and hatred as they postpone repeal of DOMA and DADT, make infamously bigoted statements like ‘gawd’s in the mix’, allow their campaigns to be run by ordained pentecostal bigots like Daughtry or Dubois or unordained bigots like Tim Kaine.
Obama is the leader of the Democrat (sic) party and that’s why they’re cold shouldering us. I’m sure that Pelosi, Kennedy, Reid and Barney Frank agree with that but Obama’s the one driving the bus. Let’s cross our fingers and hope it never occurs to him to use snow chains.
The Lesbian Mafia
Fantastic commentary. So true. Now Barack fans are pro-war and support sending what will be 100,000 troops to Afghanistan by years end?
Now they support the War OF Terra?
Now they support this racist war of killing Arabs for their oil.
Now they love how Barack has expanded the Patriot act?
Now they love being second class citizens? They love that he is against Prop 8 but want to rip Carrie Prejeans throat out?
Really.
I think they do. They love it when Barack tells them their relationships do not deserve to be legal because God would not approve. I think they love how Bark speaks for God and uses his position as president to advance his homophobia. Maybe he’ll invite them to the Easter Egg hunt.
Hypocrites.
The Lesbian Mafia
Meant to say “for H8, of course. Can’t type for sh*t …
Bill Perdue
@The Lesbian Mafia: I don’t think they love it so much as they just havn’t seen a way out the last closet, the political closet. But that’s about to change. I’m talking about people who voted Democrat or consider themselves rank and file members, not shills and aplolgists.)
For now when the Logcabinheads attack Obama as a war loving bigot who feeds the rich and attacks the constitution they’re absolutely right. And when the Stonehead Democrats attack the Republicans as pro-war bigots who feed the rich and erode the Constitution they’re right as well.
What to do?
LGBT people in both parties are going to have to learn to think outside their boxy little closets. Elections do not change things by and large while mass actions can and do compel politicians and judges to see it our way.
In my opinion that’s the way to go: an unrelenting, hardnosed militant campaign of local and national marches to organize and educate our own communities to fight for (as opposed to beg or lobby for) our full agenda. At the same time we should be ready to support the agendas of unions, the antiwar movement, minorities, women, environmentalists and etc.
The next period of political life will be characterized by the growth of mass opposition to war, economic chaos and bigotry as hope changes to rage. Our most urgent need is to build a GLBT left to be there as that happens to move people who voted Democrat (except for clueless shills and apologists) into mass action and away from the idiocy of supporting the lesser of two bigots.
The Lesbian Mafia
@Bill Perdue: Haha “Lesser of Two Bigots” … you should make T-shirts!
Hear you loud and clear, but it is baffling how the far left wing are the loudest voices given the MSM platform to now support everything they said they have hated for the past 8 years. They will look you straight in the face, drunk with power, and cheerlead escalating the war, stay silent on bail outs and the expansion of the Patriot Act, make excuse after excuse for his blatant in your face, out in the open homophobic bigotry ie: *God is in the Mix* etc. … and they will either completely shun you Amish style, or attack anyone who disagrees with Barack Bush continuing with the same exact policies. How can a community so easity divided and quick to tear each other to shreds, be educated? The level of hypocrisy is shocking, and the more obvious his bigotry becomes the tighter they hold on and just start aimlessly attacking republicans or conservatives … just start people racists (if it wasn’t so tragic is would really be funny) but they hold on tighter to the fantasy. They have managed to divide a community, that’s for sure and that only makes us weaker. At what point does a herd of people get it? Is it really possible to educate people who need to live in a fantasy?
Paul
Obama has clearly defined himself as a bigot with his opinions on same sex marriage. Only he can shed the ‘bigot’ title by getting on the right side of history by supporting equal civil rights for all.
Keep his feet to the flames. He is a politican and he will not change until the fire gets too hot.
Bill Perdue
@The Lesbian Mafia: I’m part of the far left. The left is hard-nosed and uncompromising and thats why apologists for Obama and McCain hate us.
The Democrats never were part of the left. They’re a right centrist party nearly identical to the Republican right centrists on the questions of war, bigotry and the economic dictatorship of the looter class. That explains why Dixiecrats had no problem becoming Republicans and why opportunist rightwing scumbags like Spector and Lieberman can jump back and forth.
The main difference between the two is that they’re gangs involed in a turf war but not for the small stuff like drugs lords. Democrats and Republicans use all the power of government to protect the rich and then make gazillions like Clinton, Nixon, LBJ and other big time criminals did. Clintons fawning little speech at the bigothotel in San Diego is an example of their true character. He made a few hundred thou talking to shysters and ignoring the fights of working people and the LGBT communities.
michael
Remember, Obama is a politician. Obama is not Ghandi, he is not Nelson Mandela nor is he Martin Luther King, nor is he the Dali llama. He is a politician. In order to be elected, to sustain a career as a politician he must do what politicians do. Align with mass ignorance, ruffle as few feathers as possible, suck up to the status quo. Politicians are whores, they are not great men or women, they are the bottom feeders of our human family. I read once in an airy fairy, new age book that of all incarnations we can choose, that of being a politician is one of the lowest. From what history as shown it makes perfect sense to me.
Stop putting your faith in this man, stop putting your faith in any politician. Yes ultimately they will be the ones who sign the laws that give us our rights but it will not come from the goodness of their hearts or because they have integrity. It will be because not doing so will be shameful and potentially destructive to their careers. Thats how it went for the civil rights movements. The words and actions of the non politicians brought to the public mind how shameful we were treating another group. But we still had those politicians in the South, where the citizens they served still did not see the shame of their thinking, remain unchanged. But the movement was successful.
That is happening folks, its happening in New England, it happened in Iowa. People are seeing the shame and the politicians are following suit because their careers depend on it. That is going to continue, thats why we must continue to expose the shame, to show others what they are doing. There will always be those we cannot win over. Having once lived in the south for over 30 years let me tell you they are still fighting the civil war down there, but I guess you cannot have heaven unless you have hell, so hell might as well be down there.
Chris_Yes that one
WELL FOLKS JUST DONT VOTE FOR HIM IN 2012,
Then when a caucasian wins. I would love to see this same ANGER. that I never saw done at Bill Clinton being acted upon.
But it won’t!
FUCK IT! OBAMA is a loser with the Gays!
BOO HOO
BradK
@Chris_Yes that one: How old are you? 12 maybe?
There was indeed the same anger directed at Slick Willie once it became apparent what “I feel your pain” really meant for the LGBT community that helped elect him.
The New Messiah (“Change, Hope, Inc.”) is different only in that he threw us under the bus before even taking the wheel. Race has nothing to do with it. Words and actions do. Which is how I interpret what MLK meant when he said a man should be judged, “…by the content of his character and not the color of is skin.”
To you and all the mindless, self-deluded sycophants that want to give Barky a free pass for his hypocrisy and duplicity based solely on his race, will you offer the same to Michael Steele then? Or does the race card only apply to Democrats?
Paul
@Tony: Thanks mama for making sure that we all stay cut off from our gut and only connected to our heads. Demonizing emotions is controlling and manipulative and you almost got away with it.
The Lesbian Mafia
@Bill Perdue: Yes, ok that does make sense. Thank you for defining things. Really needed that.
Do you have a blog? If not why?
fitc
@Chris_Yes that one: one of the man reasons hillary lost is because she paid for all the “ANGER” everyone had a Bill.
@Paul: childish and overly emotional wild reactionay attacks should treated with the same attitude one would treat an out of control child. when one cannot communicate without getting wildly out of control and emotionally attacking people just because they disagree, those should be treated appropriately by not taking them seriously and letting them know they are emotionally out of control.
Bill Perdue
@The Lesbian Mafia: People keep asking that.
We’re working on a blog but we want it to be broadly enough based to be used as a political organizing tool by LGBT leftists.
Chris_Yes that one
@BradK…
F^CK YOU
I say what I want! Persoanlly I’m not taking you and none if this that serious. Who ever the f^ck is your Messiah is because Obama isn’t mine.
WOW…what names Messiah, Barky…….LOL
And what about the race card? Can we say the same for this community????? Since you know so f^cking much.
You mindless, self deluded sycnocphat queen!
james james
@Chris_Yes that one: awe the overly emotional knee-jerk liberal is crying. *sniffle*
check your blood pressure because it can’t be good. make an appointment with your gay therapist and get some sedatives.
the biggest celebrity in the world was on the teevee with all of the rest of the piece of shit celebrity trash and they were all clapping like seals at how famous they are are now. even crude trash like wanda sykes gets a career again!! what the hell was the last thing that unfunny idiot ever did? um … can’t remember because she was never funny to begin with. i’ve f*cked accountants with better material that hers.
audrina
@james james: JELOUSY IS BAD. HANG ON A TISSUE. hahaha
BradK
@Chris_Yes that one: Um…thanks for proving my point.
Unapologetic Feminist
@The Lesbian Mafia: Fuck Yeah! You are right on! I have been preaching the same message about the hypocrisy of liberal democrats regarding sexism. Barack Obama is no feminist. He is just another Christian, homophobic, sexist male.
alan brickman
MICHAEL PHELPS IS DATING HER!!! WHY ISN’T THE MEDIA ASKING HIM ABOUT EQUAL RIGHTS FOR GAYS????
malaise
@Monique: I get it. Voting third party is a vote AGAINST Obama. Yet it also ends up being a vote FOR his opponent. I imagine this will be someone who is less sympathetic to LGBT issues than Obama. Wouldn’t it be better to spend 2012-2016 lobbying democrats and criticizing Obama for what he is NOT doing than it would be to try to mitigate the damage caused by whatever some right wing, anti-gay president IS doing?
Jesmend
It really ticks me off that any of you would compare racism against us African Americans to the bigotry that you think you may suffer because you are gay. Have you ever researched what middle passage was like, Slavery? The 1950’s in the South? Try not being black for a day, you can be a white guy with a six figure income and all of the sudden you are on the same level as us because you are gay? No wonder the majority of Blacks voted AGAINST prop 8, and will continue to do so!
BradK
@Jesmend: Glad to see that you’ve been elected spokesperson for “the majority of Blacks”.
And thank you for voting “AGAINST prop 8” and in support of all those entitled “white guy[s] with a six figure income” and the rest of the LGBT community. Your country thanks you.
virgiep
Here’s a quick and easy response to the National Organization for Marriage: SURVIVOR MEME
Call the NOM 1.609.688.0450 and leave them a message on the theme of “survival” :
Gloria Gaynor / Reba McEntire / Destiny’s Child / inane parts of the TV show / be creative
Look up your survival message on youtube and hold the phone nearby.
Or fax…(888) 894-3604
We will outlive this crap