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The Links Between “Lincoln” And The Fight For LGBT Equality

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By:           SCOTT WOOLEDGE
On:           Dec 5, 2012
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    • brent
      brent

      The author is making an argument that the language behind the mroal reasons for slavery is similar to the people today arguing against gay marriage. That may be true, but what is also true is that the feminists of today make the same argument for abortion rights that slave owners used for the right to own slaves.

      Dec 5, 2012 at 9:34 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mlbumiller
      mlbumiller

      @brent: could you please be a little more clear? You make a statement with no backup to the position. How or what statements do Feminists make for abortion that slave owners made?

      Dec 5, 2012 at 2:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MACDONALDBANK
      MACDONALDBANK

      Perhaps the irony might be — that the bogus hogus pogus hate-speech with its hateful leviticus 18:22 might bring the bible and torah into a banned status and the churches and synagogues shut down!

      I am the son of a catholic father who never went to church and a protestant mother who took us to church and Sunday school. Onward christian soldiers; I think not. Such absolute drivel. To be manipulated by a santa claus; an easter bunny and worst of all a bogus cross?

      It is written; so therefore it shall be? We are the chosen people? Such a wicked fantasy.
      To see the religious lunatics manipulate government and our lives is shameful.

      Dec 5, 2012 at 2:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MACDONALDBANK
      MACDONALDBANK

      http://www.HolyFaux.com

      Dec 5, 2012 at 2:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Curty
      Curty

      Besides rumors what evidence is he was gay? I mean what was the writer suppose to do, mention there were rumors he was gay in the film? I mean we know who Rock hudson former lover was. But why put something in the film about him being gay when its only hearsay?

      Dec 5, 2012 at 2:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @Curty: There is absolutely no evidence at all that Lincoln was gay. There is some evidence that suggests that he may have been bi.

      Dec 5, 2012 at 4:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DuMaurier
      DuMaurier

      Interesting article, but I was a bit bemused by the parallel drawn between the “slippery slope” arguments aginst same-sex marrige–next will be polygamy! Bestiality!–and the ones cited against the slavery amendment: “We will be forced to enfranchise the men of the colored race… What shall follow, universal enfranchisement? Votes for women?” Most reasonable people agree that plural and animal marriage are not going to follow the establishment of marriage equality; but in fact voting rights for African-Americans and women DID follow the end of slavery–and a good thing, too, I might add; but comparing the two issues in this context kind of leaves an opposite impression to the one intended.

      Dec 5, 2012 at 5:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • trilingual1946
      trilingual1946

      While Lincoln may never have thought of himself as “gay,” which is a modern concept, the evidence is pretty solid that he enjoyed the company of men. An entire, well-documented book has been published about his relationships with other men, including Joshua Speed, with whom he shared a narrow bed for 4 years (long after there was no economic reason for doing so) and with whom he maintained an affectionate correspondence for years afterwards, and with his military aide, David Derickson, when he was President. Lincoln and Derickson shared a bed on numerous occasions when Mary Todd Lincoln was away from Washington, and there certainly wasn’t any economic need to do that! Also, a descendant of Lincoln’s law partner in Springfield, Illinois has also recently disclosed that her family’s oral tradition is that the two were lovers for 20 years!

      In the film it went by fleetingly, but anyone who has read the book describing the relationship between Lincoln and his military aide would have seen Kushner’s reference to Lincoln’s sexuality in the brief scene where he’s sitting on Derickson’s bed at 3:00 in the morning, signing pardons. He engages in some affectionate physical behavior with Derickson, who asks Lincoln if he “needs company.” Lincoln declines (they’re apparently in the White House) and the film moves on.

      Dec 5, 2012 at 6:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      What’s wrong with polygamy?

      Dec 5, 2012 at 6:51 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Handsy
      Handsy

      How nice to finally read some intelligently composed and thought out comments!

      Dec 7, 2012 at 3:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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