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The Not Great Debates


Wow. What an unbelievable shit show ABC aired last night.

We’re talking, of course, about the Democratic Debates in Pennsylvania. Host Charlie Gibson talked up the event in his introduction, highlighting the city’s resounding history. Too bad Gibson and cohost George Stephanopoulos couldn’t think of anything historic to discuss. Rather than ironing out the issues ahead of the April 22nd primary vote, the ABC news men stuck to past scandals, readdressing Jeremiah Wright, Hillary Clinton’s Bosnia trip and why Barack Obama doesn’t wear a flag pin.

It wasn’t until over an hour into the overhyped event that we actually got to hear about real issues, like Iraq and capital gain reform. By this point, however, we’d already zoned out and could only wonder, “Why are we watching this shit?”

While we deride ABC for their lackluster showing, we were intrigued by Hillary Clinton’s Bosnia defense, in which she kind of, sort of admitted to lying (she, naturally, phrased it more politically). The Senator also mentioned that she apologized for claiming she came under sniper fire, but we don’t recall that ever happening. Whatever, she was probably just dumbstruck by the shear inanity of last night’s event.

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By:           Andrew Belonksy
On:           Apr 17, 2008
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19 Comments

No. 1 · An Other Greek

ABC is on an irrelevance rampage…

Soooooooooo disappointed in the little Greek elf! But wait, didn’t he used to work for Bill? oh, yes, that’s right.

Ugh!

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Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 9:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 2 · emb · Member · 656 comments

Flag pin? Really? Ninety minutes to find out about the policies of the two remaining Dem candidates, and we spend fifteen of it taking some drooler’s question about why Obama doesn’t wear the Patriotically Appproved Jewelry??

ABC is such a waste of space.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 9:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 3 · Jesse

Does anyone else find it a conflict of interest for a former cheif advisor in the Clinton administration to be the moderator for a debate involving his boss’ wife? George Stephanopoulos should not have been a moderator for this debate. Plain and simple.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 9:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 4 · todd

Charlie and Georgie are not Journalists – they are info-tainers for Disney.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 10:47 am · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 5 · Tom

What have we, loyal Democrats, done to deserve this? The horror of it all. Is this a case of the “chickens coming home to roost?” I just want to close my eyes and wake up when this bloody nightmare is over.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 11:13 am · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 6 · Leland Frances · Member · 472 comments

Anyone who thinks George is being soft on Sen. Clinton or hard on Obama obviously hasn’t been watching his Sunday morning show on ABC where he dishes her and ignores Obama gaffes.

Plus a regular guest is rumored closet lesbian Donna Brazile who as a DNC power player and super delegate keeps declaring that she’s “undecided” between the candidates but repeatedly finds something negative to say about H and something positive to say about O. Her most shameless act was jumping on the Swift Boating of the Clintons as alleged racists—not the first time she played the race card, having once forced the DNC to hire back some surplus workers after screaming they were let go simply because they were black.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 12:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 7 · deec4

Were we watching the same debate?

It was awesome!

Do you think repubs are not going to focus on those issues?

I liked her answer on Bosnia. She said she was sorry and was embarrassed.

Obama really stepped in it. The obamabots are going nuts about it…blaming ABC & Hillary.

It sucks when your candidate isn’t offered a pillow, right?

Wake the f*ck up!

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 12:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 8 · Nick

Boo Hoo! You’re all just upset because Obama bungled this debate. The issues may seem inane, but if you don’t think they’re going to be talked about in the general election, then you have your heads in a very dark place.

Bravo, ABC! For asking the questions that should have been asked long before Obama was the annointed one.

We’re so screwed if he gets the nomination…

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 1:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 9 · Peter Pan

Bosnia and Back Again, starring Sen. Hillary Clinton-TRAILER. BRILLIANT!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=exs.....ture=bz301

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 1:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 10 · Martin

Nick and Deec4, the debate got panned by ALl sides, including the Clinton camp. I’d hardly say Obama stepped in it. Also, the best part was when Hillary said “yes, yes, yes,” Obama can win. So, suck THAT.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 1:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 11 · Meeg

Stephanopoulos is such a douchebag.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 2:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 12 · tim

George Stephanopoulos make me so sick and real sick. He is so hypcriste. He like to attention the Tv and how he treat Hillary..He should not be questions to either hillary and Obmama. He has written book and put negative on Hillary and Bill. He should be removed in the future.
Another Gibson make me so voimted,very 2 faces and his questions same thing since he was in interview with Nixon. He never change the personaltiy and he is not that brillant man period.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 2:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 13 · Jesse

My thoughts on the debate were this….if you’re going to ask questions of obama and his associations with certain people then why not ask the same questions of hillary clinton? She has a walk in closet full of skeletons going back to watergate. It seemed very one sided to me. I’ve watched all the televised debates and this is the first I’ve thought this.

The debate overall just felt very weird. There were no substantive issues brought up until a full hour of grilling obama on whether he’s more patriotic than his ex-marine pastor and why he doesn’t wear a flag pin…kind of silly.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 2:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 14 · NightHawk

Where was all of this outrage when Clinton was the one being mercilessly attacked by moderators in the NBC debates? What goes around comes about, my Obamabots…

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 3:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 15 · Michelle

That debate was pure awful. I could not believe how inane that first hour was. I had to turn it off!!

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 4:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 16 · Jesse

Clinton was asked questions about issues, not about american flag fashion accessories. Clinton has never been grilled in this process about her number of questionable connections nor the clinton’s using FBI files to obtain information to use against their enemies.
Her alleged firing for unethical behavior during the watergate investigation, whitewater, oh and I loved her quote about editing the internet.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 4:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 17 · emb · Member · 656 comments

Oh, and where the fuck is Hillary’s flag pin?? Her pantsuits all have lapels, but they’re eerily, unpatriotically devoid of red-white-and-blue brooches. If we’re going to get our media panties in a twist about Obama’s poor patriotic accessorizing, let’s check out Clinton’s bling too.

Sheesh, this is all so stupid.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 6:24 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 18 · hells kitchen guy

I really, really wanted to watch it. But I had to wash my hair.

Posted: Apr 17, 2008 at 8:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]
No. 19 · Afroguapo · Member · 248 comments

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04.....38;ei=5087

Posted: Apr 19, 2008 at 2:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment · [Flag?]

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