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	<title>Comments on: The Orthodox Jewish Rabbis Furious Anyone Thinks They&#8217;ve OK&#8217;d Gay Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about refraining from the mutilation of their new-born sons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about refraining from the mutilation of their new-born sons!</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jadis: Hm, that&#039;s very interesting. In the rest of the world, these guys are commonly referred to as &#039;assholes.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jadis: Hm, that&#8217;s very interesting. In the rest of the world, these guys are commonly referred to as &#8216;assholes.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: scott ny'er</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott ny'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terrwill:

do you know about the persecution of the Chinese. Fail. Try again.

I hate only those who hate me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terrwill:</p>
<p>do you know about the persecution of the Chinese. Fail. Try again.</p>
<p>I hate only those who hate me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jadis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Israel, these guys are commonly referred to as &#039;penguins.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Israel, these guys are commonly referred to as &#8216;penguins.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: terrwill</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrwill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comming from the most persecuted group of people in the history of civilization (ya know the 6 million killed because of bein&#039; jewsish) I say you to the Orthodox haters you are a disgusting, filthy, vile, group of haters who are no better than the Nazis who forced your relatives into the ovens...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comming from the most persecuted group of people in the history of civilization (ya know the 6 million killed because of bein&#8217; jewsish) I say you to the Orthodox haters you are a disgusting, filthy, vile, group of haters who are no better than the Nazis who forced your relatives into the ovens&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: mucklucky777</title>
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		<dc:creator>mucklucky777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can say, with confidence, that ONLY the idiots pictured here think like this. The Reform movement (which is the overwhelming majority of Jews in the US) are PRO LGBT. The Reconstructionists, and Renewal Jews are even more so.

Even in most Conservative synagogues this is a non issue. 

These guys represent about as much ALL Jews as rampant Right Wing idiots like Sarah Painin represent the general population. Cherry picked is right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can say, with confidence, that ONLY the idiots pictured here think like this. The Reform movement (which is the overwhelming majority of Jews in the US) are PRO LGBT. The Reconstructionists, and Renewal Jews are even more so.</p>
<p>Even in most Conservative synagogues this is a non issue. </p>
<p>These guys represent about as much ALL Jews as rampant Right Wing idiots like Sarah Painin represent the general population. Cherry picked is right.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jews are actually pretty progressive when it comes to the gays, even Orthodox Jews are. Rather than some Christian crazies who believe you choose to be gay or not, Jews across the board ascribe to the idea that homosexuality is innate, something you are born with. 

However, even though someone may have homosexual urges, he must not act on them. The bible does not tell us how to think but how to act. In fact, the whole Jewish religion can be distilled down to laws restricting our inner desires and behaviors.

As an analogy - say someone is pre-disposed to loving cheeseburgers, just loves &#039;em -  he still must not eat cheeseburgers because of the rabbinical prohibition against eating milk and meat together. 

The same with homosexuality - if someone is pre-disposed to loving men, just can&#039;t get enough - he still must not engage in sexual ACTS because there is a prohibition against it. 

(Obviously the analogy quickly falls apart when you realize - engaging in the ultimate expression of love doesn&#039;t really equate to eating a cheeseburger - but this is how an Orthodox Jew might describe the reasoning)

The reason Orthodox and some Conservative Rabbis are against gay marriage is because it creates an environment where two men would be more inclined to engage in sexual acts if they were bound together in a sacred union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jews are actually pretty progressive when it comes to the gays, even Orthodox Jews are. Rather than some Christian crazies who believe you choose to be gay or not, Jews across the board ascribe to the idea that homosexuality is innate, something you are born with. </p>
<p>However, even though someone may have homosexual urges, he must not act on them. The bible does not tell us how to think but how to act. In fact, the whole Jewish religion can be distilled down to laws restricting our inner desires and behaviors.</p>
<p>As an analogy &#8211; say someone is pre-disposed to loving cheeseburgers, just loves &#8216;em &#8211;  he still must not eat cheeseburgers because of the rabbinical prohibition against eating milk and meat together. </p>
<p>The same with homosexuality &#8211; if someone is pre-disposed to loving men, just can&#8217;t get enough &#8211; he still must not engage in sexual ACTS because there is a prohibition against it. </p>
<p>(Obviously the analogy quickly falls apart when you realize &#8211; engaging in the ultimate expression of love doesn&#8217;t really equate to eating a cheeseburger &#8211; but this is how an Orthodox Jew might describe the reasoning)</p>
<p>The reason Orthodox and some Conservative Rabbis are against gay marriage is because it creates an environment where two men would be more inclined to engage in sexual acts if they were bound together in a sacred union.</p>
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		<title>By: Any_mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Any_mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biblical term for male intercourse is Mishchav Zachar, which loosely translates to laying with a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biblical term for male intercourse is Mishchav Zachar, which loosely translates to laying with a man.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are 44 Jewish Members of the 111th Congress.  ONLY 14% are Anti-LGBT, including Senator Joe Lieberman. 86% are on our side.

So, too bad Rabbis, most Jews understand the value of equality.  Now, if we could just get those &lt;i&gt;Christians.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 44 Jewish Members of the 111th Congress.  ONLY 14% are Anti-LGBT, including Senator Joe Lieberman. 86% are on our side.</p>
<p>So, too bad Rabbis, most Jews understand the value of equality.  Now, if we could just get those <i>Christians.</i></p>
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		<title>By: 1EqualityUSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>1EqualityUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Homosexual&quot; was added in 1949</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Homosexual&#8221; was added in 1949</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@9 Macca:

In fact the very concept of a sexual orientation was unknown at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@9 Macca:</p>
<p>In fact the very concept of a sexual orientation was unknown at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: macca</title>
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		<dc:creator>macca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These gentlemen should be reminded that the word homosexual did not exist at the time the torah was written. 

&quot;In the 1860s, an Austrian born Hungarian writer, Karl Maria Kertbeny, used the term &#039;homosexual&#039; for the first time in Berlin in anthropological writings about people for whom same gender attraction defined their sexual orientation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These gentlemen should be reminded that the word homosexual did not exist at the time the torah was written. </p>
<p>&#8220;In the 1860s, an Austrian born Hungarian writer, Karl Maria Kertbeny, used the term &#8216;homosexual&#8217; for the first time in Berlin in anthropological writings about people for whom same gender attraction defined their sexual orientation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They might have something relevant to say.&quot; ... certainly something to say, like in the Israeli joke an Israeli citizen told me:  What do you have if there are 5 Israelis in a room ...........
............................. 9 opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They might have something relevant to say.&#8221; &#8230; certainly something to say, like in the Israeli joke an Israeli citizen told me:  What do you have if there are 5 Israelis in a room &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. 9 opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
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		<dc:creator>...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be cool if that was actually his hair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be cool if that was actually his hair</p>
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		<title>By: JohnVisser</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnVisser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Joe Lieberman (aka Traitor Joe) is an orthodox jew - how come he doesn&#039;t have to wear the furry cap and the goldilocks sideburns? Well, I guess they let him stay in the fold because he hates the gay marriage too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Joe Lieberman (aka Traitor Joe) is an orthodox jew &#8211; how come he doesn&#8217;t have to wear the furry cap and the goldilocks sideburns? Well, I guess they let him stay in the fold because he hates the gay marriage too.</p>
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		<title>By: Cam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, they&#039;re Orthodox, they don&#039;t even shake hands with females outside their family, TRUST me, we didn&#039;t think they were refering to YOU when they said that the Jewish Community was onboard with gay marraige....just the other 98% of the community.  By the way gents, your little ringlets are just precious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, they&#8217;re Orthodox, they don&#8217;t even shake hands with females outside their family, TRUST me, we didn&#8217;t think they were refering to YOU when they said that the Jewish Community was onboard with gay marraige&#8230;.just the other 98% of the community.  By the way gents, your little ringlets are just precious.</p>
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		<title>By: scott ny'er</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott ny'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh. ok.

well. f#$k them too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh. ok.</p>
<p>well. f#$k them too.</p>
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		<title>By: done4good</title>
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		<dc:creator>done4good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look! They wear funny hats and have curly curls coming out of their ear! Oh, and they&#039;re looking at a wall, like a weirdo!

Lets listen to them! They might have something relevant to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look! They wear funny hats and have curly curls coming out of their ear! Oh, and they&#8217;re looking at a wall, like a weirdo!</p>
<p>Lets listen to them! They might have something relevant to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;...to refrain certain types of cruelty to animals&#039;

Ok, so in some cases, it&#039;s ok to be cruel to animals?! Not to kill them or eat them, but actually to subject them to inhumane mistreatment?!

Sick
Sick
Sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8230;to refrain certain types of cruelty to animals&#8217;</p>
<p>Ok, so in some cases, it&#8217;s ok to be cruel to animals?! Not to kill them or eat them, but actually to subject them to inhumane mistreatment?!</p>
<p>Sick<br />
Sick<br />
Sick.</p>
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		<title>By: done4good</title>
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		<dc:creator>done4good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every family has either a criminal or a crazy. Ah, such is life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every family has either a criminal or a crazy. Ah, such is life.</p>
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