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	<title>Comments on: The Showdown Between Lawmakers + the Pentagon on DADT Will Get Us Nowhere</title>
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	<description>Free of an agenda. Except that gay one.</description>
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		<title>By: Concerned</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/the-showdown-between-lawmakers-the-pentagon-on-dadt-will-get-us-nowhere-20091013/#comment-225140</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re being incredibly fatalistic, Scott NYC. 
 
Not being a cosponsor does not indicate being part of the opposition.  A good many, if not the majority, of those who are not cosponsors do so because they need a) buy-in from the Pentagon for political cover; b) support from their constituents; or c)both.  Educating and activating constuents at the grassroots level will, in effect, &quot;change their minds.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re being incredibly fatalistic, Scott NYC. </p>
<p>Not being a cosponsor does not indicate being part of the opposition.  A good many, if not the majority, of those who are not cosponsors do so because they need a) buy-in from the Pentagon for political cover; b) support from their constituents; or c)both.  Educating and activating constuents at the grassroots level will, in effect, &#8220;change their minds.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tinkerbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinkerbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we even get involved with the whole Dem vs Rep debate???  One party hates us to our face, the other hates us to our backs.

Let&#039;s take to the streets, disrupt civil proceedings legally, interrupt straight marriages (legally) since we don&#039;t have the same rights.  Let&#039;s tell them that we are brothers and sisters who are next of kin when our partners fall sick. That way, we can care for them, love them and make decisions for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we even get involved with the whole Dem vs Rep debate???  One party hates us to our face, the other hates us to our backs.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take to the streets, disrupt civil proceedings legally, interrupt straight marriages (legally) since we don&#8217;t have the same rights.  Let&#8217;s tell them that we are brothers and sisters who are next of kin when our partners fall sick. That way, we can care for them, love them and make decisions for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael @ LeonardMatlovich.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael @ LeonardMatlovich.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;A country only needs &quot;buy in&quot; from its military when THE MILITARY is the agency that CONTROLS that country.&lt;/b&gt;

This is SUPPOSED to be a democracy led by three branches of government and &lt;b&gt;NONE&lt;/b&gt; of those three is the military. The military, per a little document called the US Constitution is supposed to be controlled by the Congress and ultimately &lt;b&gt;COMMANDED&lt;/b&gt; by the President.

When asked during the Philadelphia primary debate what he would do if the military did not agree to what he wanted to do in Iraq, &lt;b&gt;Mr. Obama unequivocally said that he would remind them who was Commander-in-Chief.&lt;/b&gt;

Lifting the ban didn&#039;t just come up yesterday, but over three decades ago. The brass asshats have had more than enough time to digest it [if they were GENUINELY ordered to] and &lt;b&gt;THEIR OWN&lt;/b&gt; studies have proven for &lt;b&gt;over half-a-century&lt;/b&gt; that it would NOT harm the military.

IF Mr. Obama is sincere about caring more about, &lt;b&gt;in his own words&lt;/b&gt;, ending not only the injustice of DADT but the way it weakens national security than keeping a handful of Troglodytes in the Pentagon and Congress happy he will use his power given to him by Congress to stop discharges immediately under &lt;i&gt;10 USC 12305&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; keep his campaign promises to throw &lt;b&gt;&quot;the full weight of my administration&quot;&lt;/b&gt; behind repeal.

As DADT expert and author of &lt;i&gt;Unfriendly Fire&lt;/i&gt; Nathaniel Frank has written:

&lt;blockquote&gt;President Obama appears to have absorbed an unfortunate—and incorrect—lesson from the Democrats&#039; alienation from the military since Vietnam: that to earn the trust of the brass, the president must plead with the uniforms for a little R-E-S-P-E-C-T. Yes, Dems must win over the military; no, &lt;b&gt;that is not done by having the president ask permission to act like Commander-in-Chief;&lt;/b&gt; it&#039;s done by showing the world &lt;b&gt;that the president knows how to lead. Sometimes moral and political leadership really are one and the same. Ending the needless firing of gay troops is one of those times.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>A country only needs &#8220;buy in&#8221; from its military when THE MILITARY is the agency that CONTROLS that country.</b></p>
<p>This is SUPPOSED to be a democracy led by three branches of government and <b>NONE</b> of those three is the military. The military, per a little document called the US Constitution is supposed to be controlled by the Congress and ultimately <b>COMMANDED</b> by the President.</p>
<p>When asked during the Philadelphia primary debate what he would do if the military did not agree to what he wanted to do in Iraq, <b>Mr. Obama unequivocally said that he would remind them who was Commander-in-Chief.</b></p>
<p>Lifting the ban didn&#8217;t just come up yesterday, but over three decades ago. The brass asshats have had more than enough time to digest it [if they were GENUINELY ordered to] and <b>THEIR OWN</b> studies have proven for <b>over half-a-century</b> that it would NOT harm the military.</p>
<p>IF Mr. Obama is sincere about caring more about, <b>in his own words</b>, ending not only the injustice of DADT but the way it weakens national security than keeping a handful of Troglodytes in the Pentagon and Congress happy he will use his power given to him by Congress to stop discharges immediately under <i>10 USC 12305</i>, <b>and</b> keep his campaign promises to throw <b>&#8220;the full weight of my administration&#8221;</b> behind repeal.</p>
<p>As DADT expert and author of <i>Unfriendly Fire</i> Nathaniel Frank has written:</p>
<blockquote><p>President Obama appears to have absorbed an unfortunate—and incorrect—lesson from the Democrats&#8217; alienation from the military since Vietnam: that to earn the trust of the brass, the president must plead with the uniforms for a little R-E-S-P-E-C-T. Yes, Dems must win over the military; no, <b>that is not done by having the president ask permission to act like Commander-in-Chief;</b> it&#8217;s done by showing the world <b>that the president knows how to lead. Sometimes moral and political leadership really are one and the same. Ending the needless firing of gay troops is one of those times.</b></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Scott NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>70% of the current Congress is AGAINST ending DADT and DOMA.  You can&#039;t change their minds.  We need to replace them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>70% of the current Congress is AGAINST ending DADT and DOMA.  You can&#8217;t change their minds.  We need to replace them.</p>
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