What’s a good sign you’re getting under the skin of right-wing bigots? Well, a testily-worded press release from the Christian Anti-Defamation Coalition is usually a good sign you’re doing something right. Responding to “Prop 8.: The Musical”, the Funny or Die video all your straight friends keep sending you, the group writes of Jack Black’s portrayal of a singing Jesus:
“Jack Black should remember from his days at Hebrew School that homosexual acts aren’t funny and are roundly condemned in the Bible,” said Dr. Gary Cass, of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission. “Appearing as a sarcastic, rotund Christ, Black distorts the Bible and condones shameful, homosexual acts. Associating Christ with perverse activity is an affront to all people of faith, especially Christians. Apparently Black and company find it hilarious to falsely accuse Christians while they intentionally distort the Bible. Black ought to apologize.”
In the video, Black as Jesus questions how homophobes can casually eat shellfish while condemning gays and lesbians, despite the fact that both are mentioned in Leviticus as being abominations. Then, he goes on to horribly, offensively remind everyone that the United States was founded on separation of church and state.
The coalition then tells people via an “action item” to express their disapproval by calling Jack Black’s publicist, thereby graciously providing Black with lots of crazy-people-ranting raw material for a follow-up video. If you’d like to call the Christian Anti-Defamation their number is 866/ 508.2232. Tell em’ Queerty sent you.
ChicagoJimmy
Of course they’re upset. Jesus should only appear as a slim and fit man with blond hair and blue eyes!
A dark haired and eyed, “rotund” Jesus is just outright blasphemous!
Jason
As if Jack Black of all people gives a shit!
The Gay Numbers
Where in the Bible does Jesus preach against homosexuality?
ask ena
Jack Black went to Hebrew School? Right on, dude! I wonder if he was bar-mitzvah’d…
ask ena
@The Gay Numbers: Likely the same place he teaches bigotry and hatred and lying to get what you want.
The Gay Numbers
@ask ena: The lying is fascinating to me. During Prop 8, the Yes on 8 campaign lied several times under the leadership of people of faith. Yet, none of them said anything about the lying as being a sin.
Under Christian doctrine there is no such thing as one sin being of greater weight than another. The theory goes that all sin are the same before God. We are all “bath in the blood” because we are all sinner. That’s the way I was taught. I am not sure how it works with the Mormons or Catholics.
If they believe as they claim ,that homosexuality is a sin because of the Bible. How do they justify lying, which is also a sin before God? They are hypocrits based on their own moral code.
Even this ad is lying. This is why this is about power and manipulation of the ignorant masses. They count of their congregations to not understand what they are in fact are doing. Most people go through their lives having memorized doctrine, and that’s about it.
mark
UTAH BOYCOTT…cry me a great salt lake
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guaranteed more offensive to Book of Mormon thumpers than a musical
Gregoire
May Jack Black continue to offend for years to come.
Gerard Priori
Awww, the Christers got offended because someone used their imaginary friend against them. Cry me a river.
It’s bad enough that the claims of xianity are not true; why must they be vile and repugnant as well?
~Jerry
John (yet another John)
You are absolutely right, The Gay Numbers. In all of Jesus’ teaching and sermons, he never took the time to condemn homosexuality. Not once. It is the thing that causes these sorts of Christians to have anxiety. The scriptural support for their claims are quite slim and were never explicitly supported by the founder of the religion.
Woof
I love the quote “Apparently Black and company find it hilarious to falsely accuse Christians while they intentionally distort the Bible.”
Isn’t that what the Christian Right has been doing all these years????? Just remove Christians and add gays.
“…find it hilarious to falsely accuse Gays while they intentionally distort the Bible.”
Paul
Really? All Jack said was that they “pick and choose” because they ignore preaching against shellfish (also an abomination) while they focus on homosexuality in Leviticus. Seems to me the Christian Anti-Defamation League has a 2000-year old book they might want to brush up on before they start hurling around inaccuracies.
Trish
As a gay Christian who hopes to marry one day, I applaud Jack Black and his efforts to educate the Extreme Right. God doesn’t want prejudice, does He? Why are the Christians so up in arms over Gays getting married, anyway? Would they rather have us “living in sin”?
Tim
Between this and No Mob Veto, the krazy kristian set has their panties in a bunch these days. In the immortal words of Ms. Griffen.. They can suck it
hardmannyc
“Of course they’re upset. Jesus should only appear as a slim and fit man with blond hair and blue eyes!
A dark haired and eyed, “rotund” Jesus is just outright blasphemous!”
You got it. Jesus was portrayed by sufer-dude hunkster jeffrey Hunter in “The Greatest Story Ever Told.” Otherwise, in all those insufferable Christian-produced low-budget Bible movies, he’s always got gorgeous flowing locks, blue eyes and a totally fuckable bod.
Bad Touch Football
“Jack Black should remember from his days at Hebrew School that homosexual acts aren’t funny and are roundly condemned in the Bible”
1) is this routinely taught in hebrew school? If it is, it really isn’t taking well with the gay jews.
2) anyone who thinks homosexual acts aren’t funny hasn’t seen people engaging in gay sex. you’ve got to admit it’s pretty funny to watch at times.
getreal
They quoted scripture period! I thought these hatemongers LOVED the bible but the fact is they don’t want people to know what is really says. Everything Jack Black said is in the bible they are just mad it doesn’t support their discriminatory beliefs!
Darth Paul
@The Gay Numbers: Actually, denying the existence of the holy spirit is the only sin unforgivable by God. S’true!
Beyond that, Jack is completely justified. Jesus was, in fact, a Jew which is shared by Jack. He cites halakhic law and properly questions why christians selectively follow it. They should simply stick to their gospels if they don’t want to appear hypocritical. And since the gospels say nothing about homosexuality (save a possibly oblique reference to Jesus ‘laying’ with Lazarus), they have nothing to work with but their own hate which is very unchristian.
Brian
What was that crack about “Hebrew school”? Didn’t that strike anyone else as kind of anti-Semitic? It’s like what they’re really upset about is the idea of a Jew portraying Jesus (who, as has been noted, was, ummm….a Jew).
L
I don’t like my Jesus fat. I like my Jesus lean and sinewy and all writhing and contorting and shit on that cross. Gets me off. Add some beams of light and dewy cherubs in strips of velvet. Gets me off. And apparently it’s been getting guys and girls off since the Renaissance. So, you see, the fat is the biggest blasphemy of all.
emceebee
Brian you are on the same wavelength as me. I thought it was Anti-Semitic too. And the gay numbers and a few others are on the ball. Nothing in what Jack says in his portrayal of Jesus is blasphemous if those Christian fucks check out the bible.
mark
I like MY Jesus GAY, “Corpus Christi”, that really freaked the Christian Reich there were multiple bomb threats.
Jennifer
I love the fact that they point out Jack Black went to Hebrew school. A little Jew-baiting thrown in for good measure. How perfect it is that he portrayed the most famous Jew that ever lived!
May Jesus smite them all with his mighty smitey.
rick
i am going to start a campaign to outlaw shrimp and cotton polyester blends. we need a constitutional amendment against them.
Herbert Wassinger
PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION AT CHELSEA OFFICE OF SEN. TOM DUANE; NO ARRESTS MADE
Friday evening, lone demonstrator appears at Chelsea office on NY State Sen. Tom Duane and asks if senator will issue public statement calling for vote in 2009 for gay marriage in New York. Staff silent.
SOOOO……
PERSON ASKS STAFF IF THEY HAVE EVER HAD A DEMONSTRATION AT THEIR OFFICE?
They say no.
DEMONSTRATOR ASKS IF THEY CAN SING?
They say no.
SOOOOOO……..
DEMONSTRATOR BREAKS OUT IN NOT ONE, BUT TWO, VERSES, OF “WE SHALL OVERCOME”.
Cubicle staff sits silently. Back office woman runs out, agitated, and orders demonstration to stop immediately. Demonstrator proclaims that it is a sad day that demonstration against one of our own is necessary to demand our civil rights vote this next year.
I mean, really!!!
If your are interested in future demonstrations for your civil rights, contact me at [email protected].
THANK YOU. 🙂
trent-
Interpretation of the Bible is an art unto itself. If homosexuality was meant to be THAT MUCH of a sin, why isn’t it represented in the ten commandments, the unltimate list of moral imperatives???
chuck
@trent-:
Like people who wouldn’t say shit if they had a mouthful, God simply couldn’t bring himself to say,
THOU SHALT NOT SUCK COCK
So, it was left up to us sinneres to “ferret” that information from the bible all by our lonesome! 😉
WillBFair
It would have been better if the video were better made. The tune is simplistic, the rhymes are childish, the content is shallow in the extreme. And the dancing. Please. I could do better with a broken hip.
nikko
WILLBFAIR, How is the content of the musical shallow in the extreme?! How is pointing to some of the clearly outrageous commands in Levitticus even christians don’t obey shallow? That’s proof positive that the bible was written by erroneous men and that even christians don’t fully believe/obey the whole of scripture. That, my friend, is deep. And religious people are blind/ refuse to see the truth.
Kid A
@WillBFair: The music and lyrics were written in one day, it was recorded in the next, and filmed the next. I think it was funny, in fact the terrible lip-syncing enhanced it for me.
Reading your blog, you trash the public for its awful taste, and if you think that knocking this video gives you highbrow-cred, more power to you. But realize that viral vids like this are often our best ambassadors to Middle America.
(Also, going on about the greatness of disco only serves to nullify your authority to say that others have bad taste. The backlash was not homophobia. The backlash was because disco permeated everything. When Pink Floyd, KISS, and the Rolling Stones released records that intentionally aped disco, that was the line. Look, I think it’s as well done as you do, and I listen to it a lot, but I’m not going to hold it up as a great, “misunderstood” genre, especially when I’m simultaneously trashing everyone else’s taste. Somewhere there is an American Idol apologist ranting against disco. What to do?)
Shark
“Condemned by the Bible”, funny how Dr. Cass seems so intent on ignoring a Bible’s exegetical analysis.
Shark
@Darth Paul: Double post (sorry all), there are new versions of the Bible where the word “homosexuality” is inserted into the text…apparently, no one seemed to check that the word itself didn’t exist at the time of the writings.
chuck
Leave it to the Christians to “insert” whatever is necessary into the bible, even if it never existed before, in order to prove their lies and BS.
That’s what they want their buy bull to say, ergo, that’s what it says!
When you’re writing the script as you go, you can say whatever you want. 😉 The “sheep” will believe it.
According To Joey
You know what’s REALLY not funny? Getting hit on by some Catholic Priest at 1 a.m. in a gay bar. True story.
WillBFair
@Kid A: I’ll reply to you and nikko at once.
The content of the video is shallow because fundamentalists ignore alot more than selling people into slavery. They ignore the main demands of scripture for fainess and social justice. They cherry pick it to pieces. And they bear false witness, which is a commandment, like it’s going out of style.
As for me noting that the public has bad taste, that was just a joke, although it’s perfectly true. It’s so true, it’s become a cliche.
I take most things pretty lightly, and alot of what I say is meant as humor. If you don’t care for it, that’s ok.
But I’m sorry if my comment here upset you. It wasn’t meant seriously. I’d just prefer that Hollywood go to bat for us with better production values. Lord knows they’ve got the cash, and the best technicians in the biz. And they owe us out the ass.
Sorry again if my shmufy attitude touched a nerve.
WillBFair
@Kid A: One more point. I admit. I’m a spoiled brat when it comes to dance music because I was lucky enough to have moved to the greatest dj ever.
WillBFair
@nikko: I replied to part of your argument in another post. But as for christians not seeing the truth, I disagree. It depends on which christians you’re talking about. Fundys claim the bible is all true. But mainstreamers don’t. We know perfectly well that there’s plenty of bad stuff in there.
Kid A
@WillBFair: Good call on the “false witness” bit. I heard Dan Savage use that one as well, and the lies told about us are truly shameful. They give us plenty of good material (priests, Ted Haggard), so perhaps we should be glad that to pin us down, they have to lie.
Also, no need to apologize, it’s hard to sense the tone online sometimes. In fact I was quick to assume.
WillBFair
Thanks for the kind words. I was worried the tone would get progressively worse utill we were all foaming at the mouth over some bulls— disagreements, instead of going after the real a-holes, the fundys.
Ann O. Nymous
I will just say simply…F**k you if you can’t take a joke. Thank you and good night. ^^
asdfadfs
Religious people are idiots who can’t handle the real world and must make up a fantasy world. Fuck them. Time to let religious be something in the history books and nothing else.
nikko
Thanks for your responses, WILLBFAIR. I now understand where you are coming from. And I(we) agree, if I’m understanding you correctly. Peace!
WillBFair
@nikko: Thank you as well. But I don’t know if I want to hang out here. It’s like a witch hunt. Of course, gay people have been dumped on massively by christianity, and they have plenty of reason to be furious. But what is with these guys who stereotype all religious folk? I thought that was a rightwing game. I especially like how they hold themselves up as the lords of rationaism but don’t know zip about how logic actually works. And perdue and those guys play a bit too rough for me.
On the other hand, maybe I could talk occassionally with you nice guys and ignore the thought police.
Take care.
JT
Hollywood doesn’t Owe us… “They” is us. They did it in one day. That’s impressive in itself. Time was considered of the essence (it already being a few weeks too late in coming.) So what is it that They “owe” “us”?
As to the homophobes and their allegations, here’s the simple bottom line:
WE aren’t in their faces, their churches, their bedrooms, attacking their lives, lifestyles, and civil rights. WE aren’t going out of our way to make their lives miserable. THEY are hunting US down to do so.
Maybe it’s time we did mess with them the way they go out of their way to mess with us. Maybe we need to start interrupting their ceremonies, challenging their right to marry. Got a girlfriend on the side? Out ’em. Got a BOYFRIEND on the side? Ditto. Any reason these two should not be wed? Once again, speak up loud and clear. For starters, they should not be wed because they say WE should not be wed, and what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, per se. Let’s start attacking their right to get tax breaks because they’re married, or choose to have rug-rats. After all, children are decidedly a Choice, no? So why should they get Special Exemptions for choosing to have ’em? Why should WE pay more in taxes because they’re breeding? Why should WE help pay for their Federal Welfare (WICKS)? It’s time again to Act Up. It’s time to fight back. SOme of us will do it nicely, with a musical number. Others will get in their faces where THEY live. I feel it’s time for the latter. It’s time that they got a taste of what they’ve been doing to us. Maybe then they’ll begin to grasp the concept and leave us alone.
We never needed or asked for their support or affirmation. We only require that we be treated equally under the law, and left in peace. Since they are attacking our families and loved ones in our homes, it’s time we brought the battle to them.
Charles J. Mueller
Three cheers for JT! Go get ’em, tiger. Take the gloves off and give those motherfuckers a taste of their own medicine. They’ve got it coming. In spades, no less!
Who the fuck do these people think they are, anyway? And we get labeled by some on these blogs as “thought police” because we strenuously object to the foul treatment we are receiving at the hands of these hateful people?
Thanks, JT, for having the balls to stand up and say what needs to be said. I, personally, am sick to death of the “turn the other cheek crowd” and the Log Cabin Repiublicans who keep telling us how we need to be “nice” and not “upset” these folks.
Hello? Seems to me that they are pretty “upset” already…and we haven’t lifted a finger to upset them! All we are trying to do, is live our fucking lives as we see fit, thank you. Is that such an abomination?
If we are going to wear the “name”, then we might just as well play the “game”.
warrior
@Woof: LOST
warrior
@JT: sad so sad, angry and sad…
Charles J. Mueller
Some claim gays only make up 1% of the population, which would be about 2.7 million citizens. Considering 500,000 attended the gay pride day in New York City (police estimate gays claimed 700,000), this would mean 1 in every 5 gays living in the United States attended…including 3 year olds and 90 year olds. Obviously that is absurd, only a very small percentage of the total gay population would be active enough to go to New York for the event!
The government study which showed 1.534% was not confidential but verbal in person interviews. With all the anti gay feelings in the U.S. what makes you think someone would admit to a government worker, in person, they were gay. What is amazing is that they did get 1% admittance. What makes the study even more ridiculous is it was conducted in two towns, both in states with anti-sodomy laws and consisted of only 3,371 people, all men!
The Kinsey 10% study is also flawed but probably closer to the correct figure. Its problem is one of his many research assistants was gay and may have gone into heavily gay populated areas. However, Kinsey’s study was conducted in all 50 states and with many more people. Since no other serious studies have been done, perhaps a 7% figure is most likely.
Regardless the number 2.7 million or 20 million, does that mean we have the right to pass laws against all these Americans and deny them equal rights in housing, the military, employment etc?
There are only 3 million Jews living in the U.S. This is only about 2% of the population. Should we enact anti-Jewish laws because there aren’t that many Jews in America?
Update on Homosexual Studies based on 1994 survey
Source: Associated Press 9/10/94 “Same-sex attraction called high – up to 20% in US ‘incidentally’ gay”
The problem with prior surveys is they asked people if they considered themselves homosexual. Of course the percentages were very low, since few people in our homophobic society would admit to it -especially to a stranger.
A study by Randall Sell, James Wells and David Wypij at Harvard School of Public Health, found that 6.2% to 20.8% of American men and 3.3% to 17.8% of women could be considered “incidentally homosexual”. The higher percentages are based on admitted homosexual behavior or attraction since age 15. The lower percentages are admissions of actual same sex behavior in the last 5 years. Again the true % of actual same sex behavior is probably much higher, but the admission rate is greater than past studies.
The study also concludes that sexual orientation is often in a range rather than either at the extremes. In other words, many people are bisexual depending on the situation.
The best guess of actual homosexuality in the U.S. population is probably 10%, again since it is likely in all these studies many will not admit their homosexual activities in our society that falsely teaches there is something wrong with homosexuality, which is simply a natural sexual orientation God gave many people..
Regardless of whether the number is 2% or 20%, the issue is to end discrimination and the false religious teachings that there is anything wrong with someone simply because they have a natural homosexual or bisexual gender orientation.
Remember Jews are only 2% of the U.S. population, far less than the homosexual population. Yet no one is running around tying to make laws to discriminate against Jews. Homosexuals should likewise not be discriminated against, simply because God created them with a sexual orientation that is offensive to perhaps 80% of the population.
wiccankitten
He didn’t preach against homosexuality. only later contributors to the Bible did.St.Paul for one, and St.Peter(who some think might’ve been an “in the closet” hater(really,is there any other kind?). there are positive references to homosexual love in the Bible. David and Jonathan is one example. David said that “my love for you surpasses the love of women” and that they were “of one soul,and Jonathan loved him as he loved his own soul” Saul,Jonathan’s dad, King of Israel, repremanded him as the son of a reprobate woman for being so close to David that it appeared as though they were lovers. Ruth and Naomi were also sited as lovers. do you *really* tell someone that you’re “only inlaws” with that “whither thou goes, i will go, whither thou lodgest, i will lodge, thy God shall be my God,and thy ppl, my ppl”?(one of my favourite verses in the Bible, even though i’m not Christian. a truer declaration of undying love i’ve never heard. beautiful.
WillBFair
Whither thou goest is lovely. But I always thought it was about loyalty and faithfulness between people. No matter. I never needed examples of gay love in the bible. There are plenty of demands for kindness and fairness for the oppressed, although they might not get us anywhere either. Basic fainess is not one of Americans’ favorite hobbies. Just check out the stereotyping on this site. It’s ironic: people demand equal rights from society but can’t be decent to their own people.
nikko
WARRIOR, I take it that you’re a christian troller, right?
blizz costillo
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;” Romans 1:24-28, KJV
“Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things:
for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. Leviticus 18
“The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.” Deuteronomy 22:5, KJV
“And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;” 2 Peter 2:6, KJV
“Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” Jude 1:7, KJV
getreal
@blizz costillo: You are using those words to promote bigotry and inequality and for that you will be judged. We were all created in God’s image straight or gay. If you don’t like gay people take it up with the manufacturer (God).
PinkBear
“What’s a good sign you’re getting under the skin of right-wing bigots? Well, a testily-worded press release from the Christian Anti-Defamation Coalition is usually a good sign you’re doing something right.”
Yup because its okay for us to be bigots against them but not the other way around. of course it all makes sense. right wingers can be bigots but we can never be. noooo.
Gabriel
@wiccankitten:
David and Johnathan never had a physical relationship. Their love was brotherly love. Later in The Bible, David literally sees a naked woman and desires her which only goes to show that he’s not homosexual as you would suggest. David’s worst sin is that he had too much lust for women. His son shared in this and that led to his downfall.
And actually, Jesus said that God made them male and female so that they would multiply. He called such relationships holy. I’m pretty sure that he – like his father, God – would call homosexuality evil too.
@getreal:
Sorry mate. God never created anyone gay. You’re NOT born gay. Homosexuality doesn’t come from an extra chromosome. Homosexuality is like lust in that it comes from YOUR MIND. The problem is in your mind and it can be defeated just like masturbation. Those Bible verses are only stating what is the truth. Homosexuality is a sin. You need to use all sorts of tools just to perform anal sex which shows how unnatural it just is. Just because you can do, doesn’t mean you should.
Jack Black is just a fat sad idiot.
Farewell.
John
Homosexuals are just godless freaks who like destroying their anuses. Let them. They justify it with their evolution bullshit which is an odious theory with no single physical evidence to support it. Proof of God? Gays die of aids!
GOODBYE!!!