Thirty-six-year-old Freshman lawmaker David Bahati’s masterwork is today hitting Uganda’s Parliament floor so everyone can get a look at what’s making Rachel Maddow lose sleep at night. Parents there — at the behest of the country’s “familiy values” group Family Life Network — are coming out in support of the bill. So what, exactly, are the terrible things that are at risk of becoming law in Uganda’s so-called “Kill The Gays” bill??
The death penalty. That’s what you’re looking at if you’re an adult over age 18 who has sex with someone of the same gender who is under 18. Or if you have gay sex while carrying HIV/AIDS. Or with a disabled person. Or if you are “a serial offender” who has gay sex often.
Life in prison. If you have consensual gay sex. Even if you do it outside Uganda’s borders.
7-year jail sentence. Anyone who “attempts to commit homosexuality” (i.e. makes a pass). Or anyone convicted of “aiding and abetting homosexuality” (i.e. providing a bedroom). Or anyone “promoting” it (i.e. introducing two partners).
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3-year jail sentence. If you failed to report someone to the police within 24 hours of learning they had gay sex.
Here, Bahati speaks to the BBC in a recent interview
Strepsi
Cut off Uganda. Cut off all aid, and all diplomatic relations. Completely. Not a think dime til they renounce this attempt at GENOCIDE.
David Ehrenstein
SINGG OUT LOUISE!
Ugandan
As a Ugandan, I will be very happy if the US cuts off “Aid”/handouts to Uganda. It will give us the freedom to do things our own way. After all, China is lurking somewhere with keen interest.
Bill
Here are what some parents are saying about their Gay children in Africa:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/12/18/what-will-you-do-if-your-homosexual-child-plans-to-relocate/
I want to cry today.
romeo
Like I’ve said, no future for Africa. Typical legislation from a bunch of simpletons. So happy we have the NRA here, in case our homegrown simpletons start getting all dreamy-eyed about this.
Except for the wildlife, I fucking hate every square inch of that cursed continent.
terrwill
No. 3 · Ugandan: You filthy savage, leave these threads,
your filthy cesspool of a “country” has no natural
resources, you quote “china is lurking….” might have
some credence if that cesspool had some resource besides
dirt and poverty. You think China gives aid for humanitarian
reasons? Its only if they can take resources from the country
The only country foolish enough to do so for actual
humanitarian reasons is the US. Slowly we are waking
up to what actual savages your leaders are, and based on
your posts the maybe 1% of you “country” that are literate.
Your lifespans are among the lowest in the world and disease
and poverty are rampart. Go back there you filthy scumbag……
Scott Rose
We should be careful that we don’t grow complacent, denouncing anti-gay problems in foreign countries while ignoring those in our back yard.
Below is the text of a letter I sent today to State Senator Tom Duane about conditions in the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office unfavorable to gay victims of domestic violence.
Dear Senator Duane:
I write asking you to insist that District Attorney-elect Cyrus Vance, Jr. remove from his transition team, immediately, Clayman & Rosenberg attorney Isabelle A. Kirshner. I also ask you to insist that Vance return the $42,750 donated to his campaign by Clayman & Rosenberg.
Clayman & Rosenberg’s attorneys have pre-existing, cozy relationships with various employees of the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office. Those cozy relationships result in wealthy violent criminals being freed from full accountability for their crimes.
The matter is of particular concern as regards gay domestic violence. Gay victims in this city have scant resources for escaping their abusers. In the surgical intensive care unit of St. Vincent’s Hospital a nurse once told me: “If that victim returns to living with the abuser, the next time, you’ll get a call that they’re dead. We see it all the time; it’s very sad.”
That’s how serious this matter is.
I witnessed Clayman & Rosenberg conducting improper relationships with various employees of the Manhattan D.A.’s office. Through those improper relationships in case 2007NY070791 Bradley Ingalls was freed from full accountability for his crimes. Ingalls was given a wrist-slap sentence; Isabelle Kirshner asked the judge to remove from that sentence a court-ordered psychiatric examination.
Vance’s press secretary told me that Kirshner is volunteering her time on his transition team to advise him on “special victims’ services.” This is not acceptable. Kirshner is thus in a position to advise Vance that he should keep on the D.A. Office’s staff those of its employees that help her free Clayman & Rosenberg’s clients from full accountability for their crimes.
I am available to provide further details of the improper relationships between Clayman & Rosenberg’s attorneys and members of the D.A.’s staff. Vance should publicly declare that the cozy relationship between Clayman & Rosenberg and the D.A.’s Office is ending. He should demonstrate he is serious about it ending by dismissing Isabelle A. Kirshner from his transition team immediately and returning the $42,750 Clayman & Rosenberg donated to his campaign.
Clayman & Rosenberg did not donate $42,750 to Vance’s campaign out of the goodness of their hearts. Kirshner is not working on Vance’s transition team out of the goodness of her heart. Clayman & Rosenberg must be made to understand that its cozy relationship with the Manhattan D.A.’s Office is over. The well-being of some of the most vulnerable members of the gay community depends on that.
Sincerely,
Quesa
@Romeo: “So happy we have the NRA here, in case our homegrown simpletons start getting all dreamy-eyed about this.”
Are you kidding? The NRA are the type of people who would put the gays on their firing squad first, the Jews and the blacks next.
Mountainword
FUCK UGANDA! I have not heard anything but horror and ignorance about this little armpit country. I think we need a carpet bombing campaign – let’s hear some “Bombs Over Kampala” –
And can’t somebody poison that crazy mud-hut dweller’s food or stab his bitter, latently gay ass in the shower? Oh wait, he DOESN’T shower.
Dirty motherfucker!
Loquito
@ No. 9 · Mountainword
You want to bomb Uganda fine… But gays are not allowed in your own military. Who will bomb? Recently a gay soldier with Arabic language skills was dismissed from your US bombing military.
May be you should look in your own backyard instead of exporting totalitarian liberal activism to Uganda.
Charles Merrill
Do they mention lesbians? Or is it just man on man.
romeo
@Quesa #8: My reference to the NRA was not about them helping us, just that they’ve made it so easy for us to arm ourselves. LOL
And Loquito, gays in the military is coming soon, but we already have gay, and gay sympathetic, politicians that know a bunch of backwoods Nazis when they see them. And they will be influencing policy.
Oh, and Loquito, go fuck yourself.
trickstertara
The people of Uganda are free to rule their nation as they see fit. That’s their right. We’re also free to withdraw their funding as we see fit. That’s ours.
We are also free to offer refuge to any and all gay Ugandans seeking asylum. If their home country doesn’t want them, we’ll take them.
I said as much on The Daily Monitor’s website, which I’ve now noticed is hiding behind a 404 “Requested resource not available” warning. What a curious time to be experiencing technical difficulties. And you call us totalitarian.
Chris
Love the racist comments! It continues to show how pathetic and some white gays are. You ignore the overwhelming facts that the American Evangelicals have served as mentors to the rulers of Uganda. The Christian authorities are just repeating what their white American mentors have taught them.
Even more disgusting is how you racists ignore the blatant homophobia that exists in this country and how the leaders of that movement are mainly white. But who cares about the truth when you can pretend that you are superior.
BTW, what exactly have the leaders of Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Serbia, and Russia said about gays? What legislation have they passed?
romeo
Chris: We have been discussing their evangelical mentors at length on other threads related to this. And what does racism have to do with this? Black or white, they are instituting a genocide against gay people that, frankly, makes the Nazis look compassionate. Are the Ugandans so stupid and deficient that they don’t share any of the responsiblity? I think you’re the one being racist. Why don’t you go back to the immigrant thread instead of pissing all over this one with your vacuous arguments. Evil is evil.
Weranti Shanta
We have cast powerful spells that will affect Uganda for each gay person put in prison or killed. For each gay person put in prison, 10 Uganda women will be made barren, for each killed 100 Uganda women will bear no children and crops to feed 100 will wither never to grow again. Great sacrifices are now being made to carry these spells for the next 10 years. Those who disbelieve shall see for themselves. Earthmother tells all she will not tolerate this.
romeo
@ Weranti Shanta: Sincerely, I hope your spells help our people. All of us can work together in our different ways.
?????
Don’t worry. When China finally takes over the continent, we will see all these bull shit laws go away. In the countries that have been stupid enough to fall for China’s “trade aid”, the population of Chinese has shot up(Malawi anyone?). I find it funny that commenters like Ugandan can’t see it, especially when all the jobs provided by China are given to other Chinese or the few kids of corrupt government officials of those countries. They won’t even hire the natives of those countries as cooks or janitors.
I digress, we should cut off all aid to the continent of Africa period since they all seem to be more concerned about the small population of GLBT and not concerned about corruption and lack of public infrastructure. The sooner China owns them, the sooner they will learn that karma is a mean bitch!
romeo
And, Weranti Shanta, your spells and prayers are close to the earth, so perhaps yours will be stronger than the empty, self serving prayers of the evangelicals that started this.
B
In No. 17, romeo wrote, “@ Weranti Shanta: Sincerely, I hope your spells help our people. All of us can work together in our different ways.”
Just as an aside, I’ll note the silence of those who were blaming religion for all mankind’s problems (mostly on other topics) and who were livid at my suggestion that we blame specific sects, not religion in general (Wicca is a religion too and given Weranti Shanta’s comments, that one seems to be supporting LGBT people).
Mark
Romeo,
Have you read the comments in THIS thread that proceeded mine? Look at Terrwill’s, for instance.
Tackel
# 14 Chris
I agree with you!!
Scott Rose
I am repeating, because the matter is so serious, that while it is appropriate for us to express concern about Uganda, we should not be silent about what goes on in the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office.
Right under our noses, gay victims of domestic violence are mistreated in that office.
Isabelle A. Kirshner, who happens to be a gay woman, doesn’t at all mind taking a wealthy abuser’s money and using it in ways that wind up endangering the most vulnerable gay men.
Cyrus Vance, Jr., the incoming Manhattan District Attorney, should announce that he has a particular interest in the safety of the gay community. He should state that when a gay person is victimized, the most vigorous possible prosecution will be brought against their abuser. He should state that any and all cozy relationships that existed between the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office and Isabelle Kirshner’s law firm Clayman & Rosenberg are over, never to resume. He should demonstrate that he is serious in that by returning to Clayman & Rosenberg the $42,750 they donated to his campaign.
Copy my message right off of this site and send it to State Senator Thomas Duane, telling him you agree with it and are demanding action from Vance. In the surgical intensive care unit of St. Vincent’s Hospital, a nurse told me that they receive the dead bodies of gay domestic violence victims “all the time.”
Robert, NYC
Its truly amazing how hypocritical it is of Queerty to slam Uganda yet it allows antigay haters to spew their own venom on this site, using the same disgusting, insulting and dehumanizing language at the rest of us. If you come across a hater on here who goes by the name of Michael Letterman, you’ll get a better understanding of what I’m saying. Queerty is in no position printing articles like this when its actually promoting and encouraging the likes of Letterman et al by allowing him to spread his lies and hateful comments at the rest of us on here.
Mark
What bothers me is that there are blanket statements made about all of Uganda, with veil racism tossed in, with utter lack of realism. Up until less than a decade ago, a gay man in Ohio could be charged with a felony for whistling or showing any kind of verbal liking of another man. Don’t believe check the facts. Use Google.
Not every one in Uganda supports these would be laws. A few powerful, well connected Christians who have been mentored by white American Evangelical politicians and church leaders are pushing these laws. Right? Right!
Those same Americans have infamously spread and supported anti-gay hatred in the U.S. for decades! You can see their deviltry in the lack of progress in gay rights on a federal level or repeals in rights on local levels.
Moreover, the vitriol here blatantly neglects to compare and contrast the victimization of gays in Uganda by government powers with those in the U.S.
Hasn’t NYC been the seen of false arrests of gay men lured into stings by NYPD undercover officers? What about the brutal bar raid in Texas that saw a man bloodied and receiving head trauma? What about the Chicago police officer who falsely charged queer people with DUI charges? Then we have the repeated use of gay panic defenses that have been used to allow murderers to escape justice.
The proposed legislation in Uganda is monstrous but it only follows in the direction set by some twisted folks pretending to be Christians from America.
Jadis
Underground railroad, anyone?
Chitown Kev
@Chris
While I agree with you about the race-baiting on this thread…
I do not for a moment believe that American evangelicals are SOLELY responsible for this Ugandian legislation (just as they aren’t solely responsible for the situations in the Eastern European countries that you mention)
The fact is that these African leaders and these African parlimentarians (and I suspect that many of them are “Western educated”) share responsibility with these evangelicals. You do as you always do, blame the white man for everything.
@Robert, NYC
Agreed about Michael Letterman 100% but he does generate the hits.
schlukitz
No. 24 · Robert, NYC
Here! Here! My sentiments, exactly.
I have written letters to the editors of Queerty via holla@queerty as well as open letters on these threads begging them to do something about the bigoted and hateful straights that are coming onto this site and ruining it for the rest of us who need a safe space where we can come together in camaraderie and friendship to discuss and share information that concerns the LGBT community without being attacked at every turn.
Like you, I am tiring, quickly, of defending ourselves and deflecting invective and hateful commentaries like those of Michael Letterman and those that have preceded him.
schlukitz
No. 27 · Chitown Kev
Agreed about Michael Letterman 100% but he does generate the hits.
Sadly, Kev, that’s what it always seems to get down to, isn’t it?
The bottom line. Never what is decent and right. 🙁
Robert, NYC
Schlukitz, exactly, and don’t expect a response from Queerty. Chitown Kev is right, they do generate hits and in the process make money on it. Unscrupulous at best but it does indicate that Queerty is promoting hatred, no matter how they try to skew it. Its has nothing to do with free speech either. Other, better sites boot the haters out. They ruin it for the rest of us and as you said, we’re forever defending ourselves and we shouldn’t have to. They lie, distort and dehumanize us in the process and Queerty’s silence condones it. Its bad enough struggling every day to win our rights without these sick bastards coming in here.
Robert, NYC
Schlukitz, exactly, and don’t expect a response from Queerty. Chitown Kev is right, they do generate hits and in the process make money on it. Unscrupulous at best but it does indicate that Queerty is promoting hatred, no matter how they try to skew it. Its has nothing to do with free speech either. Other, better sites boot the haters out. They ruin it for the rest of us and as you said, we’re forever defending ourselves and we shouldn’t have to. They lie, distort and dehumanize us in the process and Queerty’s silence condones it. Its bad enough struggling every day to win our rights having to put up with the harassment from these sick straight breeders who come in here.
GeoffM
There are people and groups that would advocate that here in the U.S. Complacency on our part WILL allow it to grow to the point Uganda is at now if we’re not proactive.
Robert, NYC
Mark, you’re exactly right about that! Well said!
GeoffM, you’re also right. The right wing religious wackos would do just that. There are hundreds of thousands if not millions of the Fred Phelps ilk in our society and many in our government and the organized religious cults.
Chitown Kev
@schlukitz, Robert, NYC
The bottom line is that bigotry sells, period. Whether it’s racism, sexism, homophobia…it generates the hits…sadly.
Idi Amin Dada
i did good, huh.
Ian
@ Chris
Very well said, sir. Very well said.
I was beginning to think everyone had shit for brains (actually just Romeo)
letterstouganda
If anyone is interested, I created a new website:
Letters to Uganda: Sharing Messages of Hope and Support to LGBT Ugandans
LETTERS TO UGANDA was created to be a means for all decent and fair-minded people of the world to send their letters of support to the LGBT people of Uganda. Many of us cannot affect change within Uganda itself, but we can let gay and lesbian Ugandans know that they are not alone; that there are people in this world who support them, who value them as human beings, and who are speaking out against injustice.
This is your opportunity to send a message of hope and solidarity to the people of Uganda. Please submit your letter of support today.
Visit http:// LettersToUganda.WordPress.com to read more.
ron
If Ugandans want to kill their gays I don’t care since they are all black. What else do you expect from shit-colored baboons?
naghanenu
Ive always laughed at some of the nonsense you people spew here. How can you seriously blame America for Africa’s extreme antigay propaganda. I mean c’mon.
Many Africans are very well educated. I know CNN only shows you the cesspits but there are Africans that are intensely intelligent and thoroughly educated. Dont be fooled into believing Rick Warren(i dont know where u got this from) and some evangelicals told them to do it. Africans do not need some unknown evangelicals to lash out on homosexuality.
Africans are stubborn and violent. If you catch a thief in a country like Nigeria..the locals grab the poor soul put tires on him and roast him alive. And they resent Whites so much. They really do. That is why they are sooooo convinced that homosexuality is a white man thing. Another white man thing to come and disrupt their belief system.
It does not help that many Aficans are deeply Christian or Islamic and well we all know what those religions preach about homosexuality.
Uganda will still pass this bill. This is all eye service
John from England(used to be just John but there are other John's)
@ naghanenu
I agree.
Africa/ans were intenselt spiritual before colonisation but I’m not sure how behind it was. Chistianity is a pretty basic and stupid religion. The Bible is soo terribly simple. A lot of spirituality from the Egyptions to the people of Mali was never was dumb and simplistic as Christianity.
But the problem with religious concepts is that they are twisted for one’s own purpose.
Chitown is right. It’s all about sales. EVERYTHING in life is about economics.
Defer the attention away from the govt corrupting and looting their own countries, these ‘Christians and all the people in the know’ can make a killing by creating a frenzy of fear.
And when you have people who believe in burning bushes and a person that created lots of fish and bread out of one fish and bread to feed the five thousand….why can’t you believe that homosexuality is evil and can be unlearned?
That sleeping with a virgin when you have Aids means you stop having Aids?
It pays to keep Africa behind, fearful, ignorant, angry and dumb. It means the World leaders G7 et al have no feer of loosing power, it means that the African leaders can keep their wealth through doing shady deals with the West and so everyone is happy. The rich become richer and the poor even poorer.
Nice world we live in! Lol!
Tackel
I agree that Queerty is guilty of race-bating.Why allow a comment like #38 to be posted?? What purpose does such a comment like that serve other than to divide us futher?
There is a difference between freedom of speech and abuse.Whome ever this person is, a Queerty staffer, or some random bigot, thats just pure evil! And i agree that Queerty allows such comments on this site because bigotry SELLS.
Last week a post about undocumented immigrants having more rights then gays and now this!
Jason
@ Romeo:
You say you hate every inch of the accursed continent of Africa, yet you seem to ignore the fact that South Africa’s constitution permits full gay marriage, which is more than can be said for most of the US.
dingo
Anyone who has been following this on Rachel’s MSNBC broadcast knows that Uganada’s Hate Gay & HIV Bill was originally inspired by members of the C Street House in DC and other religious fanatics. I’m glad to see Queerty covering this!
Peter
Did any of you see the PBS review of what archeologists have been finding in and around the area Jesus lived and walked? They are finding things that contradict some of the things recorded and included in the bible; and what is being preached. Since much of the bible writings were written many years AFTER the events occurred; it is entirely possible that some of the writers got a little carried away.
Chris
Chitown Kev:
What the hell are you smoking? Where do I solely “blame the white man”? Of course the Ugandan leaders are to blame for their actions! Duh! Double duh! They are, however, influenced and following in the footsteps of their mentors, the American Christian Evangelicals who demonstrated how effective demonizing gays can be politically.
Are you really naive enough to believe that these idiots are just coming up with this anti-gay purge? Did this crap exist 10 or 20 years ago? No. Anti-gay heavily politicized pogroms didn’t exist in Uganda until recently with the ascent of these Christian Uganda politicians. If you bother reading the facts, you’d understand that the leaders of this movement in Uganda have been mentored by for a decade by Evangelicals.
There’s plenty of blame to go around here.
But, if you want to believe that this thread isn’t filled with the standard racist crap that is common to Queerty, then you are kidding yourself. Read the comments by Romeo, Ron, and others.
Finally, you say that you know me. I beg to differ. You must be thinking of a different Chris who posts here.
Robert, NYC
Jason, you’re absolutely right and even in the five states where same-sex marriage is legal, those rights are very limited to the states and have NO federal recognition let alone the more than 1,000 rights that come at that level. Its an absurd situation, its not even full marriage equality in those states. Only in America.
romeo
You know, for all of the politically correct rhetorical acrobatics going on in this thread, trying to blame everybody, incorrectly, for racism, etc., it amazes me how little the discussion has centered on the thousands of actual people, gay people, who will suffer and die because of this law.
Never anywhere in this thread or anywhere did I state, either explicitly or implicitly, that blacks were inherently deficient, that is racism. That their CULTURE was often murderously homophobic, certainly true in Uganda, yeah, I did imply that. Anyone want to argue that point in this situation? Excusing people for anything because of their race is quite precisely racism. And that is what the Uganda defenders have been doing here, Chris, you included. But obviously, political correctness is more important than the lives of gay people, and there’s plenty of other sites that would be sympatico.
You know, places where people wouldn’t say “shit” if their mouth was full of it, as my grandmother used to say.
PootieTang
why isnt the US media covering this??? what’s going on with all the gay reporter? where the fuck is Anderson Cooper? Come out and do your job man! Maybe then your shitty show would get some ratings and you’d do something really worthwhile for your fellow man. In this case, gay fellow man.
Chris
Romeo,
You are full shit. There. Happy? You make these blanket statement about “blacks.” Congratulations for proving my point. You are a bigot.
Whenever someone spews anti-P.C. crap, it’s inevitably an excuse for them to provide cover for their bigotry, whether that is sexism, homophobia, or racism.
Homophobia is alive and well across the globe. The gay police officer who was beaten and nearly killed in the U.K. a few months ago was assaulted by whites. The same can be said for most of the increasingly violent and murderous gay bashings there that have covered in the last two years.
Lawrence King, a young black/biracial teen, was murdered by his white classmate.
The leaders of Lithuania, Latvia, and Poland have not only stated their disgust for gays but some of whom have successfully passed anti-gay legislation.
British gay rights activist Peter Taschell has had to retire. Why? Because of the brain damage he received in protests in Eastern Europe.
In Serbia, gay pride parades have been canceled. Why? Because authorities there could not guarantee the safety of parade participants from violent anti-gay thugs.
Russia is infamous for the virulent anti-gay statements of politicians like the mayor of Moscow.
In New York, gay men have been targeted for arrest in phony sting operations by the NYPD at adult book stores.
In Houston, a gay man was severely beaten by white police officers during a gay bar.
Your bullshit that tries to make all blacks be more homophobic than anyone else on the freaking planet is vile and ridiculous.
You live in a country where you are a second class citizen. There are no laws to protect you from discrimination in employment and housing nationally. You have no right to marry the person whom you love in most states. Etc., etc., etc.
The leaders of Prop 8 were not black Americans. The leaders of the movement to repeal marriage rights in Maine were white.
But hey, it’s so easy for you to toss away facts to allow you to pump up your ego.
The gay men and women of Uganda deserve our support. If you are really outraged by the disgusting proposed law, then fight the law and the politicians who support it without sinking to blatant racism.
schlukitz
No. 47 · romeo
But obviously, political correctness is more important than the lives of gay people, and there’s plenty of other sites that would be sympatico.
You are spot on, Romeo. Like the BBC inviting comments on the pros and cons of the proposed genocide legislation, as if such a horrendous thought even merited being debated, like a fucking tax hike or whether to build a new football stadium in town?
Could anyone have ever imagined such an insane conversation while the Holocaust was going on?
To argue over whether human lives are expendable, for whatever reason, is the sheer madness of lemmings.
romeo
Chris, what were you saying about “blanket” statements? LOL
sekai
With all the persecution we suffer, I think it’s high time we talk about creating our own homeland like that Jews did. Scoff if you want, but it worked for them.
romeo
Chris: No one is denying that homophobia exists elsewhere, and in other cultures. We’re dealing with a specific circumstance. Stay on point if you want to keep up. Your tantrums are only bolstering my point about where your priorities lie.
FakeName
With all the persecution we suffer, I think it’s high time we talk about creating our own homeland like that Jews did.
It’s been suggested before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_Nation
romeo
@ FakeName: I’ve read about Alpine County before. The idea didn’t go anywhere at the time because the 70’s got so liberal. But that doesn’t mean it might not be appealing at a future date. There’s so many of us out now, millions, that I think a better bet would be Montana. It’s as big in land size as California, but has fewer than a million people. AND it’s “Brokeback” country! LOL Been there. It’s beautiful, and it already has gay people — in cowboy hats. LOL
terrwill
To all who attempt to soften the critisim of this cesspool of a nation by pointing out other nations homophobic acts. Each and every one of them should be condemnded. However this proposed legislation by these hompophobic savages is tanamount to genocide for the Gay population in uganda. Life imprisonment for ANY Gay act. Death penalty for the second time one is caught. How long does one expect a Gay to last in a ugandan prison???? This cesspool recieves OVER ONE HALF BILLION DOLLARS IN US AID PER YEAR. Your tax dollars are funding the deaths of fellow Gays. The US evangalical subhuman scum should be called out and fully publicized over this. If you don’t think that a majority of the rightwing-nutbag lunatics in this country would not love to see similar legislation in this country take a cyber stroll over to a site like briebart and check out the posts in response to the threads on this matter. It will wake you advising not expressing outrage over this matter to see such hate spewing from US citizens………
romeo
Excellent point Terrwill about publicizing the names, pictures, and affiliations of the American “missionaries” that are helping to bring this about in Uganda. Their masks are off, not that they were ever on all that much, but we need to keep these people monitored and publicized in the gay media and wherever else we can. They will be responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people. They should not have the luxury of anonymity.
Brian Miller
Queerty is in no position printing articles like this when its actually promoting and encouraging the likes of Letterman et al by allowing him to spread his lies and hateful comments at the rest of us on here.
Great point. I mean, homophobic jokes on television are at *least* as serious as mass imprisonment, torture and execution of LGBT people. WHERE THE HELL ARE YOUR PRIORITIES QUEERTY?!?!?
Robert, NYC
Brian, thank you. I hope more people get on Queerty’s case. Their silence is deafening.
Brian Miller
I was being sarcastic.
I like the trolls. They remind me of what I’m up against and the “thought” processes of the haters.
Eliminating them creates a false sense of security that deceives one into complacency.
trickstertara
@Sekai: It’s a nice hypothesis. The problem there is Israel had the support of solvent nations in getting started.
Who would support a gay nation?
Maybe Spain; they have marriage equality. France would just to piss off America. We might get Italy to front us a loan for the sole purpose of upsetting the pesky little city state they got saddled with centuries ago. That would probably be it.
terrwill
No. 61 · trickstertara & No. 52 · sekai : Brilliant! I say lets request a small portion of Italy, first the Italian men are my favs and second that would certainley bunch the panties of the men in dresses with pointy hats at the vatican!!
Chitown Kev
@Chris…
actually demonizing gays existed during the Third Reich, if I remember correctly…
I stand by my comment that bigotry (of whatever form) sells, period. Robert, NYC in #31 absolutely nails it.
hardmannyc
Ugandan: Yeah, we all saw how well your country did when it went it alone with Idi Amin, hahahaha.
Mike in Vancouver
If you dig deeper into this story you will find “The Family” AKA The Fellowship, a right wing fundamentalist Christian organization that dates back to 1935. They are at the heart of this ridiculous and outrageous legislation. Check them out on Wikipedia and see what they have been up to for decades. They are a secret and in my opinion very dangerous organization that recruit political and business leaders and anyone else misguided enough to believe their crap.
hardmannyc
“No. 61 · trickstertara & No. 52 · sekai : Brilliant! I say lets request a small portion of Italy, first the Italian men are my favs and second that would certainley bunch the panties of the men in dresses with pointy hats at the vatican!!”
Um, except that if were a gay homeland, there wouldn’t be any Italians left.
romeo
France or Denmark gets my vote.
Robert, NYC
Mike in Vancouver #65….what a lot of people don’t know is that there are a few conservative democrats who are members of The Family, Senator Bill Nelson of North Carolina, Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Representative Bart Stupak of Maryland. There may be more of course. These are the types who also vote against marriage equality and were influential in killing the public option in the current health care reform debate. We also have eight conservative dems in our state, though not members of The Family, who also voted against marriage equality. That’s why we have to be extremely careful who we vote for.
Isaac
Uganda is retarded.
Loool
@Chris:
So now most of america accepts gays and allows gays in the military, will u even consider letting gays go into your country without killing them