Comments on: WATCH: A World Where ‘Breeder’ Is a Slur, Not ‘Faggot’

By: David

David — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:26:43 +0000

This video appears to have been completely removed from the ‘net.

Is that because it is one of the most powerful arguments against homophobia to date, or just a coincidence?

By: youcanthandlethetruth

youcanthandlethetruth — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:58:22 +0000

@M Shane: So even now you want to describe the miracle of your own conception and birth as “that’s all they could do”??

You are really screwed up. No wonder you ended up as a homosexual!

By: SM

SM — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:32:54 +0000

@M Shane: @M Shane: I read an article awhile back about how the Equality Fight was changing the dynamics of P-town because straight people were moving there. It was about how places like the Castro etc might start disappearing in years to come My brother lives in the Castro.

By: M Shane

M Shane — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:21:37 +0000

No. 28 · youcanthandlethetruth ;
I call my parents “breeders’ because that’s what they did: =me (and a lot of crazyness)
even though mom was a lesbian and dad was of a questionable sexuality
Shows you what happens when people are given limited horizons: that’s all they realized they could do.

By: M Shane

M Shane — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:11:30 +0000

No. 26 · SM Oh no, I spent most of my adult life in San Francisco and can still not adjust to living in the Midwest-it’s really horrible for me. I’ve just realized that a part of my reservations subconciously , of equality, are that gay people will be damning them selves to the tedium of mediocre lives.
Granted that’s seems to be what some people want, but not I, never, I ove to have friends and sex but trying to have both with one person in one place is just not in my toybox. Someone from S.F just moved here, and has been in shock, he claims that sex is even boring.

Do you recall where you saw that article?

By: Gigglingfool

Gigglingfool — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:39:10 +0000

a word is only a slur if it is treated as such, and that means from both sides, it needs to be intended to insult and cause harm and it needs to be received with those intended feelings, people give words power

now i dont know every straight person in the world, but ive never met any straight person who felt the word breeder was insulting, they either laugh it off (because its a fairly stupid slur in my opinion) or if they are indeed homophobic haters they just get pissed at you “how dare you try to insult me you faggot” emphasis on the try, they just dont see it as a slur, so i don’t think it is.

this video was saying if the roles were reversed, the term breeder would gain more power as a slur, but its was speaking purely hypothetically. truth is the roles have never really been reveresed so we dont know what would happen, we can only speculate

By: Jaroslaw

Jaroslaw — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:06:38 +0000

#28 You can handle the truth – you really are dull mentally when accuse ALL homosexuals of intolerance.

The point of this post is to reverse the roles, not advocate name calling. DUH. In case you still didn’t get it, WHAT IF there was a place or time in the world where “faggot” was a good word and “breeder” was a bad word?

By: youcanthandlethetruth

youcanthandlethetruth — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:57:41 +0000

Do you call your parents “breeders”?

Why do homosexuals demand tolerance from everyone else yet they are so intolerant and bigoted themselves?

By: SM

SM — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:31:59 +0000

LGBT people are just as bad with the slurs and telling people they are not wanted.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....741D30.DTL

By: SM

SM — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:22:19 +0000

@M Shane:

Do you honestly think being gay in suburban America is the same as being gay in the Castro?

I actually read an article a while back about how the Equality movement was ruining P-Town. Equality means just that. Here comes the straights…even to places like the Castro and Ptown.

By: M Shane

M Shane — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:06:32 +0000

p.s. best conventional straights would be Midwestern Lutherans!

By: M Shane

M Shane — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:02:31 +0000

Bri: the film would be a terrific subject; there are many variations on how we would represent the gay world though;
much of the marriage propaganda would lead me to believe that conservative straights would be comfortable in a mainstreamed gay world. There is a book written by Andrew Sullivan “Virtually Normal” which suggests that the future of the gay people is monogamy and suburban weinie roasts with our straight neighbors (I’m sure makup parties, baby showers and the lot implied).
On the other hand as No. 5 · galefan2004 implies straight people are breaking the traces and becoming more like gay people used to be(freewheeling).

I think the funniest potential lies in a conventional straight person living in the midst of Urban gay life 20-25 years ago(preAIDS).say in NYC or San Francisco.
There are many variations but most would be highly controversial.

There onece were a lot of straight people who lived in San Fracisco who had a proclivity for S/M or freee love and felt more comfortable where they could go to straight baths or thier favorite Toy Store for whips & shackles.

By: SM

SM — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:22:27 +0000

uhhh….calling a straight person a “breeder” is a slur. Stop calling straight people “breeders” if you are so offended at people calling you names.

DUH!

By: mike

mike — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:42:12 +0000

@galefan2004: Ms. Duffy, Academy High School?

By: drresol

drresol — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 05:18:07 +0000

Even with closed eyes, I could clearly make out the absolute brain-bend it was putting on some of them to try to put themselves in our world. You could almost hear the thoughts vocally,

“This is stupid…we’re straight, we’re the normal ones..”

“…can’t put myself in the position of a queer. This is crazy..”

“…BREEDERS? Isn’t that what it’s all about??”

“…I will NOT put myself into the mindset of those weirdos…”

Of course, he seems to have a crowd of at least a few open-minded people (mostly women, as others pointed out), who understood it was more about trying to empathize with others. And it was amazingly accurate. For any of them willing to be open to it, they got a brief glimpse into what it is to be gay.

By: Kid A

Kid A — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:00:14 +0000

I’ve been watching all the videos on his channel since seeing this, thank you for posting

By: RainaWeather

RainaWeather — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:58:24 +0000

That was nice. What year is this from? It looks kind of late 80s/early 90s

By: Bri

Bri — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:29:15 +0000

@Bri: Oops, meant to say “point of view of a straight person in a gay world.”

By: Bri

Bri — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:20:57 +0000

That was great. It kind of reminded me of this movie that I watched on Logo called Almost Normal. I wonder, has there been a book written from the point of a straight person in a gay world?

By: Andrew

Andrew — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:29:00 +0000

Great video, thank you for posting it. Brian McNaught has written on this topic and has been doing corporate seminars and training for many years. I have one of his books, but had never seen him in action. Cool.

By: schlukitz

schlukitz — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:22:55 +0000

Some additional information for those who might be interested.

http://www.brian-mcnaught.com/

By: Jaroslaw

Jaroslaw — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:59:24 +0000

Here’s his website:

http://www.aeispeakers.com/spe.....akerID=750

By: Jaroslaw

Jaroslaw — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:58:11 +0000

This is Brian McNaught, he did a video in the 80s or early 90s I think- it was something about sensitivity training for workplaces….I have a copy of it and that is where this clip is from.

By: remingguy

remingguy — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:52:59 +0000

Can you give some info about this video? Where is it from? Who is the moderator? What organization is it associated with? When I show it to my religious family, I KNOW they will have questions about the dreaded “ultirior motives!” Thanks, Queery!

By: TomEM

TomEM — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:01:29 +0000

So I’m not the only one.

By: schlukitz

schlukitz — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:49:14 +0000

What a beautiful piece of sensitivity training. It left me in tears.

The closing comment of the group leader, was the piéce de resistance.

By: tom

tom — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:55:42 +0000

i stopped reading your blog after andy left. i found the new format and commentary had gone in the wrong direction both visually in terms of overload from main content page as well, the work provided lost it’s weight and became more about being sensationalized. with this clip you have brought me back and again peeked my interest. i hope to return with more the balanced worthy information as this youtube video represents and andy consistently provided.

By: Cam

Cam — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:21:08 +0000

This is great, I sent it out to a few ex Mormon friends of mine, I told them that they should hire this guy for the next family reunion back home in Utah.

By: C-Wil

C-Wil — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:13:31 +0000

notice how none of the men spoke up?

By: feathers

feathers — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:07:45 +0000

@Galefan2004: A lot of heterosexual guys, on the other hand, are a bit nervous when it comes to fathering a baby. I would not call them “breeders” – for them not using a condom is just a way of having fun leaving all the consequences with the woman: not much different from a gay guy barebacking.

By: galefan2004

galefan2004 — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:09:34 +0000

@M Shane: Rather the end result is the desire to have a baby or not you know those straight guys are saying no to condoms every chance they get (and women are much more willing to let them say no in a relationship), so the end result is they are all doing activity that could lead to breeding.

By: kademonster

kademonster — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:06:46 +0000

Wow.

By: M Shane

M Shane — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:50:12 +0000

Being a “breeder’ is definitely a choice now in most places, especially in a day when the metrosexual (Mark Simpson) option of having straight sex for conciously pure hedonistic pleasure. People don’t have to do it to have babies for societies population quotas;(for work force and consumer requirements).

By: Bob R

Bob R — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:07:44 +0000

This is one of the most worthwhile articles/video posted on Queerty in quite some time. Thank you. I plan to share it with family and just about everyone I know.

By: galefan2004

galefan2004 — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:48:09 +0000

This reminds me of a story my friend wrote when he was a kid that had a straight child coming out to his gay parents.

As long as he wants to bring up the library over and over, I have to tell how it was in my library. The librarian in the school was the most gay friendly person in the entire school. She had almost every single gay kid in the school as a library aide at one point. There were plenty of books on gay issues. Me and her are still friends to this day (12 years later).

Damn powerful.