In the mangled thicket that is Eminem’s angry, psychosexual rap music, nothing flummoxes us more than his on-again, off-again relationship with the gays. Like the waves of the might Pacific—or a bout with Chlamydia—our BFF from Michigan has a fascination with homosexuality that ebbs and flows.
First, there was the anti-faggotry period of his early years where, through his alter ego Slim Shady, we were blessed with, um,”poetry”like, “I’m ready to make everyone’s throats ache. You faggots keep egging me on till I have you at knife point, then you beg me to stop?” and “My words are like a dagger with a jagged edge. And I’ll stab you in the head, whether you’re a fag or les…”
Makes us feel all warm and fuzzy. And by warm and fuzzy, we mean worthless and dehumanized.
Then came Eminem’s “As long as you don’t try to suck my dick I’m okay with it” phase, where he tried to explain how his use of F-bombs wasn’t homophobic: “Faggot was, like, it was thrown around constantly, to each other, like in battling, you know what I mean?” he told Anderson Cooper on 60 Minutes. “I don’t have any problem with nobody, you know what I mean. Like, I’m just whatever.”
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We kind of got a glimpse of this side of Em back when he performed with Elton John during the 2001 Grammy Awards. Of course, Mr. Mathers says he didn’t know Elton was gay. (And really, how does one know?)
But the undated video above, which recently surfaced on the black gossip site Bossip, places the “Stan” singer in a new phase. In it, a clearly altered Eminem recounts how a hip-hop witch put her spectral finger in his butt. Yep, America’s most notorious white rapper got penetrated.
This admission might not be gay or even post-gay, but it certainly puts Em in a category all by himself. Thank you hip-hop enchantress, whomever you are, for releasing Shady from the shackles of his queer obsession once and for all. (We hope.)
Daez
Now come on QT, leave the trolling to the posters.
Baba Booey
I think he became successful solely because he bashed gays, isn’t that right? Because I recall him not being liked as much before his anti-gays years.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@Baba Booey:
His former manager and producer stated his very first EP under the name M&M was very positive, and not violent, misogynistic, or anti-gay. Then he hooked up with Dr. Dre, dropped all his former friends, mentors, and management, became Eminem, and changed completely. Everything he is today–success wise, and personality wise–is because of Dr. Dre.
Mz.Peachez
@Baba Booey: that’s the truth.
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: and that’s why white kids from the “burbs” love him so much.
Daez
@Mz.Peachez: That has more with them wanting to rebel against their parents because their life is so “bad” because their parents bought them a brand new Camaro instead of a brand new Corvette. I swear, I can not stand these kids with privilege that can not realize how easy they actually do have it and disrespect their parents as some sort of vengeance.
Baba Booey
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: @Mz.Peachez: When you are anti-gay or make gay jokes in films or music, this seems to really be the remedy for success in the US and abroad.
rrr
This is from Da Hip Hop Witch. It was a movie he appeared in years ago with Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Ja Rule, Mobb Deep and a ton of other rappers. This isn’t some sort of secret or newly available, it was released in 2000. It was a parody of the Blair Witch Project.
Baba Booey
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: You make great points.
Shady1972
Um, FYI that “clip” of Eminem, is from a mockumentary horror grade B movie called “Da Hip Hop Witch” It was a bunch of rappers mainly from his crew back in the day. Its class act dark humor.
If you watched the rest of the movie aside from eminem’s part you would realize that. Nice try though 😀
cam
Ok, so this is gay news because some woman put a finger up his ass?
Sounds pretty un-gay unless she was a Drag Queen.
As for the guy himself. He seems to have grown in the right direction as far as gays go. Hip Hop back then wasn’t exactly a friendly place for us.
DAEZ Camero instead of Corvette. So true!
Ms.Peachez
@Daez: True. Some are trying to rebel aginst their parents because of their “hard life” lol, but some actually agree with some of the garbage that Em raps about
@Baba Booey: Couldn’t agree more.
@cam: Alot of rappers have grown in the right direction as far as being pro-gay. There are different types of hip-hop and all of it ain’t about hatin the gays.
Ms.Peachez
@Ms.Peachez: *against*..
rrr
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: His very first early work was positive, but it wasn’t getting him anywhere. He experimented with things like a triple tongue technique going VERY fast, and switched into horror core and drug talk content with jokes included. His content change had already happened when he was freestyling with other aspiring rappers at radio stations and competing at the rap olympics before getting a deal and working with Dr. Dre. He’s had the same manager from Detroit (Paul Rosenberg) since well before his record deal and Dre. Dre is a great producer and he gave Eminem some good beats and stood as his mentor the way rappers are normally mentored into the game, but, unlike Eminem, Dre has never demonstrated much physical and lyrical skill as a rapper and ghostwriter rumors have always abounded with him. As soon as Dre started working with Eminem Dre’s raps changed markedly to include a lot of inside rhyme and other stylistic markers of Eminem that made it pretty obvious Eminem was ghostwriting for him in addition to coming up with the concepts for their joint numbers like Forgot About Dre. They freely acknowledge Eminem came up with the concepts but not the lyrics since having a ghostwriter carries a lot of stigma in rap.
His first commercially released album was mix of dark zany humor and drug talk. His second one was an thin-skinned angry battle rapper response to anyone and everyone who had criticised or irritated him in regard to the first album, which included gay groups a bit although the criticism hadn’t been very strong and the first album hadn’t stood out as particularly anti-gay relative to other rap.
Kev C
Eminem is the black version of the Insane Clown Posse.
Codswallop
BLECHHHH to Eminem AND Elton John. Maybe they can perform together at Rush Limbaugh’s divorce.
suze
this video has been on the internet for a long time, and he obviously joking!
I don’t think he have any problems with anybody, some of his lyrics are just dark humor.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@rrr:
Your Wikipedia knowledge of Eminem is awe-inspiring.
Rachel
Eminem is NOT gay and this story is completely bogus. Did the person writing this even get the facts? Eminem DID know Elton was gay, which is why he did the performance. Ive been a huge fan of Em for 10+ years and trust me, I’ve stayed up on my Eminem news. Em’s music is supposed to shock, which is what people like, and which is exactly what his music has done, and look where it has gotten him… To the very top. He is one of the best rappers musically and lyrically out there and everyone knows that, or he still wouldnt be around.
Rachel
and hes obviously joking in the video… you can tell its his sarcasm voice.
Kev C
@Rachel: Rapping isn’t really a skill. Many people rap, including pitchmen, carnival barkers and auction callers. People who become famous rapping usually have to do -something more- to become famous.
And rapping isn’t music. If you want to learn about music, try listening to Benjamin Britten’s Young Person’s Guide To The Orchestra, and Prokofiev’s Peter and the Wolf. The David Bowie narrated version of this is quite popular.
PJackson
@Rachel:
Agreed xD
PJackson
@Kev C:
Your entitled to your opinion, but frankly it is apparent you can not even comprehend the art that goes into rap. It amazes me how much people believe that anyone can rap, when in fact you need a special kind of talent to do so.
As for the subject, at hand it’s called a joke, maybe if you had a wider sense of humor you’d get that 75% of what Em says is for shits and giggles with those who get it, and the other 25% is to get a reaction like this which in turn shifts to shits and giggles of those in the inside circle of something we like to call a sense of humor. Taking Em seriously, is like believing that you face will get stuck when you that face, lighten up and open your eyes. Besides there is much more important things Em is saying these days that you all need to open your eyes and ears to. xD
John
This article is so stupid. I hope its trolling. Oh, I’ve seen the video before, its not even ‘just popped up’.
Kev C
@PJackson: Generally speaking, Eminem fans are low-income whites, and some blacks, who are homophobic and uneducated. Learning about music made by gays helps to remedy this problem. Rap music is not music, and rappers are not talented. Please educate yourself.
John
@Kev C: Generally speaking most rappers aren’t talented at all. In my opinion, however, Eminem is one of a very, very few who is. Your statment about Eminem fans is clearly untrue though. You only have to look at the 60 million Facebook fans he has listed to see not all of them can possibly match your description. Eminem is very talented. Think you can do what he does? You’re having a laugh. Lastly, Eminem isn’t a homophobe; fact.
One thing that doesn’t really depend on opinion though is how stupid this article is.. really? So, the authour is an open gay who has ‘closey’ followed Eminem’s relationship with gays? How dumb and it doesn’t even do that correctly. The facts in this article are misconstrued, the OP is a retard. The only reason anyone is here is because it comes up on Google when you search Eminem news.
Chris
Way to be a decade behind and overthinking shit again, Queerty.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@PJackson:
maybe if you had a wider sense of humor you’d get that 75% of what Em says is for shits and giggles with those who get it, and the other 25% is to get a reaction like this which in turn shifts to shits and giggles of those in the inside circle of something we like to call a sense of humor.
I find it funny that Eminem never had anything funny to say about black people. In fact when he did have something funny to say–black girls only care about money–he immediately apologized, because apparently what he said was hurtful, and offensive. Yet using anti-gay slurs gets him a Grammy, and makes people like you laugh.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@John:
Lastly, Eminem isn’t a homophobe; fact.
No, but he is anti-gay, fact.
And learn how to use a semi-colon; you’re embarrassing yourself.
John
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: Sure, anything else you want to bring up from 10 years ago. Irrelevant now and uninteresting.
Kev C
@John: John, Eminem is one of the most homophobic, and least talented rappers alive. And please say no to Meth.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@Rachel:
Ive been a huge fan of Em for 10+ years and trust me, I’ve stayed up on my Eminem news.
Eminem doesn’t love you, Rachel. But he loves your money.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@John:
Irrelevant now and uninteresting.
I could say the same about you.
John
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: Wow could you be anymore butt hurt?
Belize
@John: “@Mr. Enemabag Jones: Sure, anything else you want to bring up from 10 years ago. Irrelevant now and uninteresting.”
And yet you have ever so diligently responded to the comments placed in this page. Is this how you define irrelevant and uninteresting? No wonder you like Eminem’s petty oral escapade. 🙂 I love it whenever you chart farts dig a hole for yourself.
Belize
*Yourselves
Excuse me. 🙂 My level of amusement is tampering with my communication skills.
Belize
@Kev C: “@PJackson: Generally speaking, Eminem fans are low-income whites, and some blacks, who are homophobic and uneducated. Learning about music made by gays helps to remedy this problem. Rap music is not music, and rappers are not talented. Please educate yourself.”
LOL. Perhaps it is you who should educate yourself. People like you make the LGBT community look bad. Your understanding of rap, music and talent is so provincial that you can’t even mask it with misguided elitism.
And no, I do not think that Eminem is a talented rapper. I find his style juvenile, contrived and unoriginal. But I refuse to stoop down to the same level of people like Marshall Mathers 3rd by generalizing an entire genre and cheapening it just because of my own preferences. Grow up and educate yourself, grandma.
Belize
@Rachel: “He is one of the best rappers musically and lyrically out there and everyone knows that, or he still wouldnt be around.”
LOL. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re a high school student. Do you actually think that longevity is the true measurement of a person’s talent? LOL. Longevity and album sales is not caused by talent. Anyone with little talent can get far as long as they are relatable, persistent and they’re goal involves wanting to be famous regardless of how what they do to move the art form forward. Ergo. Seeing Eminem “at the top” only means that the world is still full of idiots who think that this glorified shock jock is doing something that hasn’t been done before.
Belize
@Kev C: Ugh. Shouldn’t this level of willfully ignorant trolling be more suited for websites like The Sword. Please, bitch. You do nothing for our cause.
Kev C
@Belize: I play a dozen musical instruments, all expertly, and know more about music, from ancient to modern and from around the world than Belize will ever know in a lifetime. But feel free to opine, oh ignorant thing.
n900mixalot
@Kev C: Ugh, a “music” snob, how quaint. If it isn’t a European classic, it isn’t music, right? If you aren’t trained in Beethoven and Brahms, or don’t like them, then you are tone deaf, right?
I grew up with people like you shoving their narrow views of what music are down my gullet and frankly, you guys don’t get what music really is at all.
You’re giving me gas, how about I trumpet something out for ya?
Kev C
@n900mixalot: Actually I grew up in the Projects of Staten Island. So if you ever meet Method Man or Ghostface Killah, ask them if they remember that white boy from Stapleton whom they called “Boy George”. That being me.
Dumbass.
Baba Booey
@Rachel: I love the empathetic “NOT” when referring to gay. Take a walk you homophobic piece of shit.
kevin
Riveting article.
Glad this is a free site.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@John:
Yeah, anti-gay rappers who get Grammy awards, and Hollywood movies about their lives does tend to bother me.
Baba Booey
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: me too. no $$$ from me though.
Julia
@ Everyone: Calm down! You are ALL embarressing yourselves by getting all worked up over a silly little tongue in cheek article and other people’s taste in music.
Donnie V
It would only prove that gay is a choice and that homosexuality shouldn’t be a protected class just like people who masturbate(or don’t) aren’t a protected class
Yeah
Oh, poor Donnie V is a chronic masturbator who happens to be pissed that he’s not in a “Protected class”. =(
skelly
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: actually, here is a waaaaaay pre-dr. dre track of his:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDJDhVkRhtQ
in it, he hates on black girls for all types of racist reasons…
eminem definitely owes his SUCCESS to dr. dre. but he owes his racism/bigotry/misanthropy all to himself.
sorry. it can’t always be the black guy’s fault.
ridiculous.
keepit100
im not gay and i have nothing against people who are its your life.
but, talking bout missing semi colons is embarrassing
you guys are embarrassing yourselves
its words on a mic you get that? hes only said it 1000 times
my god.. to say hes not talented is ridiculous and rap isn’t real music is even more so. the art of rap has more complexities than almost if not all genres of music. anyone can rap, not everyone can rap like eminem or tupac, big L to name a few. you cant relate to his struggles but theres millions people who do. but in the end not everyone has the same opinion on like and dislike or religion, but thats all it is is an opinion so whats the point of bashing someone, you dont like it dont listen, youre offended dont listen because its always gonna be there. so maybe just be more proud, do you and dont worry about what people have to say