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“Every single medal contender can either be first or 15th,” says Johnny Weir tonight, after landing in sixth place after tonight’s short program, behind gold medalist Evgeni Plushenko of Russia (the only skater to complete a quadruple jump), American (and Weir’s domestic sparring partner) Evan Lysacek, and Japan’s Daisuke Takahashi.
Says Weir: “I actually had fun tonight, and that’s something I hadn’t done in a while. I showed my heart, and I can’t remember the last time I smiled like that. I want people to feel me, feel like they are on the ice with me.”
We had fun with you, Johnny. Be good — for another few days, and see if we can’t get you up on that podium.
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sam
Are you high? The free skate is tomorrow, tonight was the short program. While it isn’t likely he’ll medal, he still could with a good free skate and spills of people above him…..
Shelley
@sam: Actually, the free skate is Thursday.
P
um it was only the short today. Do a bit more research, please?
P
And no mention of Jeremy’s performance?
Also the idea of Evan medalling makes me want to vomit. No thanks.
Derek
He was fantastic! I can’t wait to see him perform on Thursday!
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jimmy
Who is the clueless dickhead that wrote this idiotic post?!?
W.
I think Johnny got robbed. His performance was totally underscored. Even the crowd could be heard booing when his score was announced.
SouLKid
Ok, Johnny is clearly no Plushenko but damnit, could those judges be more biased? Johnny’s performance while safe, it was flawless. Of coz it had Johnny’s trademark flamboyance but we are talking figure skating here. I personally feel they underscored him. Hopefully he’ll totally BRING it on Thursday.
—-
I can’t stand Evan but damn he was good. Even I couldn’t hate. I do feel Johnny should have been fourth though.
Go Johnny. Go!
Qjersey
JW came in 5th at the last Olympics because he fucked his short program but had a great long program. So JW will probably come in 4th or 5th, unless one of the others fucks up…and he can snatch the bronze.
Evan comes across as such a homophobe…although I swear he has a touch of the family accent.
terrwill
Evan Lyinsack the “new masculine” face of figure skating………
Johnny qWeir, we still love you (even though you won’t come out!)
Fitz
@Qjersey: So JW will probably come in 4th or 5th, unless one of the others fucks up…and he can snatch
I’m pretty sure that the universe will collapse on itself if you keep saying his name in the same sentence as words like “fucked” and “snatch”.
sam
I hope Weir is straight because it would be nice to breakdown stereotypes that gay people and straight people have behaviors that can be classified as exclusively gay or straight.
But even if Weir were straight, got married and had 19 children with a woman there would be that element in the gay community that was screaming he was gay and in denial and he just needed to come out.
Gay activists are the ones always screaming that right wingers want to invade the privacy of our bedrooms, but they seem to be in there too when they want someone to come out even if that person chooses to keep their PRIVATE life PRIVATE.
scott ny'er
really don’t want evan or evegny to medal but they probably will. And Evegny did pull off the quad-triple. I was rooting for Brian/Patrick/any Japanese dude/Lambiel/ even Johnny/ and possibly jeremy (who in 15th is done). I missed the short but it sounds like it was good skating.
B
I thought he was very entertaining and was underscored. Several of the men (from all nations) were in my opinion better than Plushenko and I hope one of them takes the gold.
Like him or not, Weir gave a solid performance. Go Johnny.
terrwill
If only to pour some more sand in the vagina of the Director of the US Figure Skating Association who refused to put qWeir’s photo on the website because they wanted to “appeal to a more masculine” audience I hope qWeir at very least grabs a bronze………
Michael
Its a sad, sad day when the head of the US Hockey team is more gay friendly than the head of the US Figure Skating Association. whatever.
ROBinNYC
I’m sorry…but Lysacek’s Cher at the Oscar’s meets Bird that Attacked Tippi Hedren ensemble represents masculine??? And they said irony died after 9/11.
Weir was totally underscored. My best friend is there at the games (that C*NT) and he was texting me all night. Said the booing for Weirs marks was awesome.
romeo
Weir should have scored higher. I don’t know if the judges are anti-gay, but there certainly seemed to be favoritism at work. BTW, was that the Vera Wang Lysacek was wearing that Weir wanted? Grossly overdesigned. Johnny, if you’re lurking, you dodged a bullet on that one. I love you dearly, but you have enough problems without looking like Snow White’s stepmother (“Mirror, mirror, on the wall…”) LOL
scott ny'er
This is why Figure skating is not drawing in the ratings. People realize how the judging is fixed. It’s too subjective vs. an actual race where there is no judge, just slo-motion replays to see who passed the finish line first.
ROBinNYC
Figure skating is not drawing the ratings cause it’s been way too long since we’ve had someone try to take out a skater with a billy club.
Can we get Rachqel Flatt to do something about this? She’s got a touch of the Tonya about her.
scott ny'er
@ROBinNYC: true dat. And Kwan is missing.
ROBinNYC
I can’t even about Kwan. Gold medal be damned, she will always be the best there ever was.
I just realized I spelled Flatt’s first name incorrectly. However, I think I’ll refer to her as Raquel from now on. It suits her.
God, I wish she’d wear gold blades.
Helen Lawson
@ROBinNYC: His outfit as explained on teh Today Show was designed by Vera Wang who is known for making sure that the outfit corresponds to the music being used as well as the emotion that it seeks to draw from teh audience. The music was from The Firebird so the feathers were appropriate.
Johnny’s score was lower because what he executed, point-wise, was of a lower level than what Evgeni did. Evegeni did a huge quad combo that is worth about 14-18 points depending upon what bonuses are available. JOhnny’s biggest jump was a triple axel that’s only worth 8. Evan scored higher in the performance marks than Evgeni which is why he ranked so high. Evgeni had higher technical scores, Evan had higher artistic scores.
AlwaysGay
I loved Johnny’s performance. He’s a remarkable skater.
Michael W.
What a beautiful, flawless performance. I certainly felt like I was on the ice with you, Johnny. So mission accomplished.
No way I would’ve been watching that last night if it wasn’t for Johnny Weir.
sam
Good golly Miss Molly, do you people even know HOW to score in figure skating? Is it just because you want to get in Weir’s pants or have him in yours that you aren’t objective?
Did y’all know a quad is harder than a triple? And that all the competitors know if they want to be on the podium they need a quad and they need to complete it? That alone is a 4 point difference and then Weir’s touching of his off skate in the triple flip cost him two more points?
Those two elements alone make up 6 of the 8 point difference with Plushenko. Just because the crowd likes or doesn’t like someone, the scoring is pretty transparent these days and everyone knows what they need to do.
Weir knows if he wants to medal he has to bring the quad into his program and nail it; that is what won him a bronze in the worlds.
Taylor Siluwé
Amodio and Weir both were ROBBED! They should easily be in 4th (Weir) and 5th place.
Lysacek’s routine was mesmerizing. He’s exactly were he should be – 2nd place. Admittedly, having followed his rivalry (through watching Be Good, Jonny Weir), I thought Evan was gonna be this jock type homophobe and that’s why he didn’t get along with Weir. But after seeing him speak, I don’t think that’s true anymore. He seems like an awesome guy, and quite talented. I hope he wins the gold now. But I also want Weir to win a medal as well.
Admittedly, I cringed a bit when I saw Jonny’s look, but I expected as much. He’s Jonny. I love him for being himself. But I do think the judges were unfair to him. It’s truly a shame when a guy can be too-gay for *gasp* figure skating.
And what’s with all this so-called masculine posturing? What’s up with those outfits (over-alls, slacks and a vest, etc.) which I found extremely annoying and distracting. By contrast, Lysacek’s sleek classic outfit put him MILES ahead of the competition on sight – and his performance was as classy as his look. I think I’m falling for him.
Sorry Jonny, my heart is moving in a new direction. But it’s not you, its me. 😉
hardmannyc
Looking at this video, his form is stiff, his legs unsettled on his axels and his choreography is terrible.
Helen Lawson
Take a look here for the full scoring: http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-figure-skating/schedule-and-results/men-short-program_fsm010201uH.html
Johnny’s base score for technical marks was 5 points lower than Evegeni’s.
Helen Lawson
@Taylor Siluwé: Amodio’s base technical marks were a full 7 points lower than Evgeni and had no sequence ranked higher than a level 3…he even had one marked at level 2. To medal he needs to be doing everything as close to a level 4 as possible
scott ny'er
@Helen Lawson: Interesting. Evan came in 2nd mainly because of his added points for his circular steps. Otherwise he and Johnny are identical. Oh and Johnny got deductions for his flip jump. What happened there?
Taylor Siluwé
No. 30 · Helen Lawson
I’m sure you’re right. I’m no technical guru when it comes to these things. I only started watching figure skating because of Jonnny and his no-holds-barred flamboyance. For me, in my average Joe rating system in my head, I go by the overall feeling a performance gives me. Lyscek gave me goosebumps. Weir, because I’ve come to like him so much and really want him to win, was nerve-wracking to watch because I was so worried he’d fall. When he didn’t, I may have given his performance a certain biased boost. He was great, although the technical stuff is not my forte.
Alexa
Sam, it’s not so much that Johnny should have ranked higher, but that he was scored low compared to several of the other skaters. I have little doubt that his persona was the problem, not his skating (and, trust me, I have no interest in anything in his pants).
P, I was so sad for Jeremy, his nerves obviously got the better of him. He was wonderful at Nationals just a couple of weeks ago, well deserved win over Evan.
Helen Lawson
@scott ny’er: He entered the jump on the wrong edge. Under the old 6.0 system this would be like a .1 deduction but in the new point code system it’s a HUGE deduction.
Kyle24
Boring! I miss the days of Dorothy and Peggy.
delurker
I love this guy! So friggin’ adorable.
Oh Boy
I love him too. He is totally flamboyant and silly but I have never found a queen like that to be so hot and sexy.
fredo777
That was absolutely fantastic. Clean + crisp. Beautiful.
Jonathan
SAM:
Are you friggin high on drugs? I’ll assume you haven’t seen “Be Good, Johnny: on Sundance channel. Asking Johnny Weir to come out is redundant, he’s so flaming he could spontaneously combust.
Who cares if he says it, you tool. It’s redundant and everyone knows it. He’s wonderful and entertaining. I love him, but you are a fool.
hannah
@SouLKid:
I thought he was underscored as well. Even the NBC commentators (Scott Hamilton & co) thought he was underscored. It was a very clean performance with some great technical aspects. I would have expected at least one point higher.
Devon
…I don’t get it.
Bianca
Johnny was fantastic and he was ROBBED!
I hope he skates the best skate of his life on the free and maybe there’s still a chance for bronze.
I just loved what he did on the short program.
Go Johnny!
Bianca
@terrwill: If he “comes more out”, he’ll be orbiting in space.
Johnny is fantatic. To me (as a woman) he’s not “feminine” on the ice. He’s exactly what I want to see more of from other skater (men and women) – individuality, charm, excitement, grace, beauty, humor, artistry, posture, charisma, sexiness and more. He brings all that and more to his performances. That’s why he’s special even if he’s weaker technically than other skaters. On the whole, he’s much more impressive.
Nobody’s claiming he was robbed on his technical score but on his artistic score!
mike
evan is sooooooo hot
ossurworld
Dancing to Pop Goes the Weasel is never a good idea.
Helen Lawson
@Bianca: Being weaker “technically” in the technical/elements performance is not a good thing.
Kelly
@Qjersey:
Actually he nailed his short performance and biffed his long performance at the 2006 Olympics. He was in second after the short program but missed several jumps in the long program.
I also think he was really underscored…. I hope the judges are more fair tonight.
Kelly
@sam: I don’t think anyone thinks his program was gold medal material, it just deserved a higher score than he received.
cat
johnny was robbed again. i think the oly judges are homophobic. he skated better than everyone tonight for the long program. and they screwed him over again. he deserved a medal. he skated better than evan and the rest of the medalists. not fair. but i think he will in the end laugh all the way to the bank just like the idol runnerups do. think jennifer hudson, adam lambert, etc.
Taylor Siluwé
Yes, they robbed Johnny again. However I don’t think he was better than Evan. I think Evan deserved to win the gold. If it was up to me, Johnny would’ve won silver and Plushenko the bronze.
Plushenko looked pissed enough during the award ceremony, imagine if he’d come in third. lol
lisa
Absolutely ridiculous tonight. The judging is just as corrupt now, after all these confusing changes were made and anonymity was introduced, as it was before. They clearly don’t like all the gay talk Johnny Weir brings to the sport and deliberately underscored him. He didn’t deserve 1st or 2nd, but maybe the bronze and at least 4th.
Gared- Sebastopol, Ca.
@sam: A quad is only worth 3 tenths of 1 point more than a triple, and Plushenko almost fell landing it and all but 1 of his other jumps. You really have to pay attention, but all of Plushenko’s rotations except one were badly executed, go review if you doubt what I say….Evan deserved his gold but Plushenko was accepting charity to have taken (Johnny Weir’s) silver. People who fell on the ice got higher marks than Johnny and you wonder if WE know how to score Skating!? The judges should be the subject of your question.
Gared- Sebastopol, Ca.
Forgive me Sam: I thought you were talking the Long Program but you posted on “short Program night”, I was referring to the long program results, I thought Johnny’s Short was low-to-fairly scored, but he was definitely robbed on his Free. He deserved a higher mark than Plushenko, who had the many errors I metioned in my previous post.
Carolyn Wolf
Love Johnny, every spikey, sparkling inch of him. Too bad that Delaware local newspaper didn’t have professionalism to cover his performance. Scardy cats !! Pay attention, this talented and stunning athlete will see Gold in his future .
Jackie
I love love love him!!!!!!! So cute. So awesome. I could care less about the others. I watched this program at a local bar. I was talking about Johnny. All of the sudden he was on. And everyone in the bar turned to watch him. Ha. What can I say. He delivers the goods!!!
AB
I know I’m two years late….but Johnny Weir is the most amazing, breathtaking figure skater I’ve ever seen, bar done!! All the elements are there. When Johnny takes to the ice he tells a story from beginning to end. His costume, music, body and face embellish the story and draws you in. Yes, he is not always consistent in his delivery with the jumps but when he is…he is superb! He was robbed at the 2010 Olympics because of skating politics, because he’s gay, because he speaks his mind and sometimes doesn’t give a f*ck, because only one American could be on the podium, because, because, because… But in the minds of many no one has captured the artistry, athleticism and beauty that is figure skating like Johnny has in a long time; and quad toe being damned!