Queerty is better as a member

Log in | Register
  THAT'S A RAP

We Liked It Better When We Didn’t Know Who Tyler The Creator Was

Maybe we’re old farts, but we had never heard of rapper Tyler the Creator before his appearance Sunday night on MTV’s Video Music Awards.

Turns out Tyler, who did an awkward on-stage dance with Seth Rogan, Will Ferrell and Jack Black—and nabbed the coveted Best New Artist Award—dropped the F-bomb (that’s “faggot,” FYI, not “fuck”) an impressive 213 times on his sophomore album, Goblin.

And people say rap isn’t eloquent.

GLAAD was on its shit and blasted the 20-year-old performer:

This isn’t a case of a few cursory anti-gay slurs over the course of a career… Compare[d] to Eminem’s debut album, The Marshall Mathers LP, which featured 13 total occurrences of the word… the sheer scale of Goblin’s anti-gay rhetoric is frankly staggering.

Rather than providing simply a larger platform, MTV and other networks should educate viewers about why anti-gay and misogynistic language has no place in the music industry today,” said Herndon Graddick, Senior Director of Programs at GLAAD. “Given Tyler’s history of such remarks, viewers and potential sponsors should refrain from honoring homophobia and in the future look to a more deserving artist.”

While the Best New Artist is chosen by viewers, not MTV, GLAAD did take the network to task for nominating Tyler (born Tyler Okonma) and asking him to perform. “We hope in the future they will think more carefully about the message they’re sending to their young audience before giving him another platform.”

We’re sure MTV will record an anti-bullying PSA or something equally lame. And that’ll fix everything.

Sara Quin of Tegan and Sara took to the Internets to voice her disgust with Tyler and the music industry and media that laud him:

In any other industry would I be expected to tolerate, overlook and find deeper meaning in this kid’s sickening rhetoric? Why should I care about this music or its “brilliance” when the message is so repulsive and irresponsible? There is much that upsets me in this world, and this certainly isn’t the first time I’ve drafted an open letter or complaint, but in the past I’ve found an opinion – some like-minded commentary – that let me rest assured that my outrage, my voice, had been accounted for. Not this time.

If any of the bands whose records are held in similar esteem as Goblin had lyrics littered with rape fantasies and slurs, would they be labeled hate mongers? I realize I could ask that question of DOZENS of other artists, but is Tyler exempt because people are afraid of the backlash? The inevitable claim that detractors are being racist, or the brush-off that not “getting it” would indicate that you’re “old” (or a faggot)? Because, the more I think about it, the more I think people don’t actually want to go up against this particular bully because he’s popular. Who sticks up for women and gay people now? It seems entirely uncool to do so in the indie rock world, and I’ll argue that point with ANYONE.

Tyler’s response? He tweeted, “If Tegan and Sara need some hard dick, hit me up!” Move over, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.

Tyler has addressed the F-bomb controversy before:  He told England’s NME, “I’m not homophobic. I just think ‘faggot’ hits and hurts people. It hits. And ‘gay’ just means you’re stupid. I don’t know, we don’t think about it, we’re just kids. We don’t think about that shit. But I don’t hate gay people. I don’t want anyone to think I’m homophobic.” But he also told MTV News, “Well, I have gay fans and they don’t really take it offensive, so I don’t know. If it offends you, it offends you…I really don’t give a shit.”

We’re confused, Tyler—do you care if people think you’re a rabid homophobe or not?

Even notorious gay-slur champ Chris Brown has taken Tyler to task for his offensive lyrics. Earlier this summer, Brown and Tyler’s Odd Future Wolf Gang were engaged in a Twitter battle when Brown tweeted, “I never claim to be no saint but by no means am I trying to promote death, violence, and destruction with my music!”

Dude, if you’re getting called out for hateratin’ by Chris Brown, you know something’s fucked up.

Images via Po’Jay and Theo Grontis

By:           Dan Avery
On:           Aug 30, 2011
Tagged: , , , , , ,

  • 161 Comments
    • Jeff in NYC
      Jeff in NYC

      That’s like a white artist saying “I just think ‘nigger’ hits and hurts people. It hits. And ‘black’ just means you’re stupid.” Can you IMAGINE how that artist would be vilified? And don’t say it isn’t the same thing. I’ll probably have people calling me a racist just because I dared to spell the word out.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • lol
      lol

      Jeff you’re a fag.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mike
      mike

      If you don’t like his music don’t fuckin listen to it. Simple enough. Odd Future has a lesbian member named SYD who dj’s and mixes there albums. Stop assuming shit you old crackers.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      @Jeff in NYC: I get the point you’re trying to make but I hope this doesn’t become a black v. gay thing because there are a lot blacks who don’t agree with Tyler and a lot of whites who do. Also, a lot of black gays are negatively affected by Tyler and his words.

      Let’s not make this a black vs. gay thing and forget about gays of color.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • burgers
      burgers

      Maybe all of you should lighten the fuck up. I honor this man for actually having the balls to say these things and honestly it’s kind of comical. Do you really think he’s being serious 100% of the time? No. He’s raw and has crazy, brutal, awesome flows. Free earl \m/

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • flog gnaw
      flog gnaw

      In response to JEFF…tyler has said in the past that the word NIGGER does not offend him. So shut the fuck up about race you idiot.

      flog gnaw

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MikeE
      MikeE

      at least he’s honest. He says “we don’t think”. He hits the nail on the head there. He did not think at all.

      And of course: “I don’t want people to think I’m homophobic”. Of course not. Who would?

      Still, he’s an idiot who didn’t think, and is now afraid people will think he’s a bigot. I guess he should have “thought” about that before, eh?

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      It amazes me that a black artist can use anti-gay slurs, and get awards for his music. Apparently it’s their “artistic” freedom to throw around anti-gay slurs. Yet a racist band who uses racial slurs, will get arrested, and charged with a hate crime. Apparently “artistic” freedom only protects heterosexuals when using anti-gay language.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Jeff in NYC:

      You won’t be called racist, but you will be vilified, for telling the truth.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @flog gnaw:

      When it’s coming from blacks, or from whites?

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      I guess his trolls.. I mean followers.. have found their way onto Queerty.

      Make all the excuses you want… they go in one ear and out the other. I guess Tyler would call me a “Faggot”.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • christopher di spirito
      christopher di spirito

      Black rapper/Hip Hop singers are addicted to saying “faggot.” It’s as if they’re afflicted with Tourette Syndrome and can’t help it.

      In any case, it’s quite a cultural double-standard (among many) that black rapper/Hip Hop singers get away with it.

      Imagine the nuclear reaction if a white singer sang “nigger”? Rev. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell would go batshit crazy on the singer.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @christopher di spirito:

      Yep.

      When Chris Rock said that white people can only say nigger when singing along with a song, but anyone can use faggot, I lost respect for him.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: White artist have too… It has nothing to do with white or black but everything to do with the fact that racism isn’t viewed the same way homophobia is viewed. The history isn’t the same.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 1:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • uhmmm
      uhmmm

      Why did this turn into a race thing? Smh

      And I doubt tyler cares if its a white or black person calling him a nigger lol. That’s why I like him bc he doesn’t give an f about what people say. Unlike all you people on here.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 2:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      Once again you guys wasted no time making it a black vs. white thing. @christopher di spirito: Double standards go both ways. Just like when a white celebrity does something homophobic, no one calls out the “white community” but if a black celebrity does something homophobic it immediately becomes us vs. them(white gays vs. blacks). Can you say double standard?

      Aug 30, 2011 at 2:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • candace
      candace

      In the third song on his current album, he deadpan exclaims “Fuck Bill O’Reilly,” I think it’s obvious he’s not on the wrong side. He has equal opportunity rage.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 2:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • David Ehrenstein
      David Ehrenstein

      @Gay Veteran: It’s not all Black people but it’s definitely all rappers.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 2:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ladi
      Ladi

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: His best friend is white and he says the n word all the time. Stop trying to start stuff up. And you failed to mention lesbian in the group. Faggot and nigger are just words, man. He calls himself a faggot all the time. Hell, I use it, but I’m the first one to defend gay marriage. his guy is not homophobic.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 2:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ladi
      Ladi

      @David Ehrenstein: No it’s not all rappers. A rapper by the name of Lil B had an album out called I’m Gay, in support of gay people. He got blasted on the internet, but he still put it out. But he’s a rapper, so you don’t care.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 2:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DARKSKIN FETISH
      DARKSKIN FETISH

      @christopher di spirito: Last I checked Eminem wasn’t black. So you fail on this one

      Aug 30, 2011 at 2:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      @David Ehrenstein: I don’t agree with all. But “rappers” does mean rappers of all races.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 2:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ousslander
      ousslander

      I prefer knowing he’s a douche bag.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 2:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ashton cruz
      Ashton cruz

      I don’t think it’s a matter of race but simply a matter of word value and stigma. If only African Americans are allowed to hurl out publicly the word nigger then only homosexuals should be able to publicly hurl the word faggots. And so on, with Jews, Hispanics, Asians and the rest.

      Why is the word niggers so vilified but the word faggots is simply allowed to get by the morality censors. When Michal Richards called those guys niggers, his career pretty muh died, but when Tracy Morgan went on his kill my fag son tyrade, all he had to say was “oopsies!” afterwards and all was forgiven.

      There is an unbalance here when it comes to the word faggot. Try calling someone a kike, a Spick, a wet back, a retard, a cunt or a chink aloud in song and all the private interest groups come out of the woodwork condemning and vilifying the artist, yet these mucisians,mostly rappers, white and black, just seem to get cart Blanche when they pepper their albums with the words and terms, “faggots” “gays”. “pole smokers” “no homo”, etc….

      The same way non African Americans have had to learn that the word nigger is a horrible derogatory word that should not be used, our African American brothers and sisters as well as the rest of the heterosexuals community, need to understand that the word gay, dike, queer, faggots etc… Is/are just as bad and should never be used to mock, insult, make fun or negatively describe anything or anyone. That is of course unless they give us homosexuals the permission to call out those who use those anti gay slurs for what they really are : HOMOPHOBES, BIGGOTS and DIRTBAGS.

      Thanks for you time.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 3:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason

      GLAAD is being limp-wristed about MTV. Considering that MTV has promoted a stream of homophobic musical acts over the years, GLAAD should have been harsher on MTV.

      MTV is a homophobic organization, pure and simple. It doesn’t deserve our support, pure and simple. It’s an organization that claims to be gay-friendly on the one hand but then enables a succession of anti-gay musicians on the other. What it giveth with one hand, it taketh away with the other, and with interest.

      MTV has shown over the years that it is a brand that supports homophobia, including violent slurs against gay men in particular.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 3:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Katt
      Katt

      Thankfully I never heard his music or seen his ugly face before today. I am a gay man and the word “f*g**t” offends me no matter what. I don’t use it and I won’t stand for anyone else using it. I’m also a black man. I hate the n-word and equally detest it’s use by anyone. That is why I haven’t given a penny to artist who use those terms. Tyler is a loser and idiot. If you can’t think of more words to hurt and insult someone GO BACK TO SCHOOL YOU DUNCE! 213 times and you are not a homophobe? Come on…

      Aug 30, 2011 at 3:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Ladi:

      His best friend is white and he says the n word all the time.

      So he’s fine with his friend using nigger. Howabout me?

      Stop trying to start stuff up.

      I’m not the person winning awards while using anti-gay slurs.

      And you failed to mention lesbian in the group.

      What does that have to do with this person throwing around the word faggot?

      Faggot and nigger are just words, man.

      Words used while assaulting people. When I see Screwdriver win a music award, I’ll accept that statement.

      Hell, I use it, but I’m the first one to defend gay marriage.

      And defend anti-gay slurs. And from I’m reading here, you defend one, more vigorously than the other.

      his guy is not homophobic.

      But he’s anti-gay. There is a difference.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 3:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • a
      a

      who really gives a shit about this guy…

      Aug 30, 2011 at 4:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bryan
      Bryan

      @Ladi: What’s your point? Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin both claim to have gay friends? So?

      Aug 30, 2011 at 4:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • slanty
      slanty

      He doesn’t think about it. If a white rapper used the word nigger 213 times on a record, he would think about that. And he would have every reason to call that racist son of a bitch on using a hateful word 213 times.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 5:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • David Ehrenstein
      David Ehrenstein

      @Ladi: That “I’m Gay” thing was acomplete scam. The album had NOTHING to do with being gay. He just used us to get attention.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 5:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Henry
      Henry

      @Ladi: You’re an asshole. Tyler is a troublemaker who uses slurs to spread hate, and as long as he uses those words, he’s going to hear about it. A straight rapper using the word faggot is unacceptable.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 5:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tom Breston
      Tom Breston

      Saying the word “Faggot” does not make him homophobic! His reasoning for using the word makes sense. “It hits hard, it hurts” he is doing it to get your attention, and it’s working!

      Aug 30, 2011 at 5:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Tom Breston:

      And the only person it benefits is him. He’s not doing it to make a point about anti-gay attitudes–he does it to ridicule.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 6:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • christopher di spirito
      christopher di spirito

      @DARKSKIN FETISH: Last I checked Eminem isn’t the subject of this thread. So you fail on this one. Next?

      Aug 30, 2011 at 6:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MikeE
      MikeE

      @Tom Breston: are you REALLY that stupid? “it hits hard, it hurts” is EXACTLY why it is homophobic. He is using a hateful and hurtful word ON PURPOSE, making him a bigot.
      His “reasoning” makes absolutely no sense, and your defending him makes even less.
      He admits it himself: he “doesn’t think”.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 6:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      @christopher di spirito: No he’s not but when you make a comment like this: “Black rapper/Hip Hop singers are addicted to saying “faggot.” It’s as if they’re afflicted with Tourette Syndrome and can’t help it.
      In any case, it’s quite a cultural double-standard (among many) that black rapper/Hip Hop singers get away with it.
      Imagine the nuclear reaction if a white singer sang “nigger”? Rev. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell would go batshit crazy on the singer.”

      It’s only right that Darkskin Fetish brings up an artist who debunks your little theory. Eminem didn’t lose his career for dropping the f-word. Eminem isn’t black so maybe it isn’t a “Black rapper/Hip Hop singers are addicted to saying faggot.” thing.

      It’s always the same ones making it about race and not homophobia.

      Homophobia has nothing to do with a person’s skin color.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 6:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • christopher di spirito
      christopher di spirito

      @Gay Veteran: Gay Veteran, you’re as clueless as they come.

      Maybe if you listened to music other than Madonna and Barbra Streisand, you would realize how endemic the use of the pejorative word “faggot” is among black rapper and hip hop singers. Stick to your oldies stations and us young uns’ will fight the battle to stop homophobia in the urban music world.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 6:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      @christopher di spirito: Lol. So funny. I make a valid point and you belittle me by going after my music choice and age.

      1. I don’t listen to Madonna.
      2. I couldn’t tell you one Barbra Streisand song.(I know Rachel Berry idolizes her)
      3. I’m 22 yrs. old.(very young) lol
      4. if you would have made it about fighting homophobia in the urban music world at the very beginning I would’ve never said anything… instead you made it about Blacks(black rappers) being more homophobic than everyone else.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 6:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      @christopher di spirito: His age doesn’t make his point any less valid. Your only interested in double standards when it’s gays against blacks. Where is all the outrage when a white guys says something homophobic? It’s only when the subject is black that it’s time to break out the outrage and racism.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 6:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • slanty
      slanty

      Homophobia has nothing to do with race. Men are homophobic for one of four reasons: they grew up that way, their religion tells them to be homophobic, they’re insecure about their masculinity, or they’re anti-social. If you look at Tyler’s comments, he’s clearly anti-social. I doubt he goes to church just to hear the Evangelical preacher telling him gays are going to hell, but it’s possible.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ladi
      Ladi

      @Henry: Fuck you, trying to call me an asshole. So if he’s gay then he can say faggot? Shut the fuck up.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Henry
      Henry [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @Ladi: I didn’t “try” to call you an asshole, I did call you an asshole. Your little outburst proves me right.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SBC19
      SBC19

      You bellyachers are all full of shit.

      Axl Rose used the word ‘niggers’ in his song “One In a Million” and aside from a few gasps, nothing happened to him. Nikki Six of Motley Crue got up on stage and called one of the black security guards at the show a “nigger” because he didn’t like how he was trying to tame the unruly crowd. Rock band Pantera is known for their racist lyrics. Metallica’s James Hetfield also has a history of having outspoken bigoted moments. None of their careers came to a screeching halt for it (nor did they need to.) I get sick of uptight, pressed white men acting like there is some some sort of double standard in place; there isn’t.

      You don’t have to listen to Tyler, Eminem or any of alleged streams of “black” rappers who spouts homophobic lyrics; the same way I don’t Guns N Roses or Pantera. They can be as racist as they want, Tyler can be as homophobic as he wants. You can’t control other peoples thoughts and mouths.

      If you don’t like some acts lyrical content and messages, don’t fucking listen. Don’t support their careers by dropping a dime on it. But you don’t get to play morality police and say “this isn’t allowed.” Yes it is, and it will continue to be.

      Furthermore, I’m getting sick of how every time an instance of homophobia stars someone of color, the default reaction is to try and turn tables with condescending talk of racism and the N-word. However, when a white guy is the culprit of homophobia, no mention of his race or ethnicity is ever peeped (especially if he’s young and relatively decent looking.) *That* is a double standard.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tackel
      Tackel

      Hey guys: look at the words of
      # christopher di spirto
      #Mr Enemabag Jones, and
      # Jason

      I’m almost sure these are the same person. Using three different aliasis to make his argument/belief stronger.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @SBC19:

      Axl Rose…Nikki Six of Motley Crue…Rock band Pantera…Metallica’s James Hetfield

      Could you provide examples of relevant bands, and performers? Howabout situations that did not happen 25 years ago, but rather recently? I’m fairly certain that if any of these people tried to vent their racism today, their careers would be over.

      I get sick of uptight, pressed white men acting like there is some some sort of double standard in place

      Wow! Attacking racism, with racism. That’ll really get your point across.

      You don’t have to listen to Tyler, Eminem or any of alleged streams of “black” rappers who spouts homophobic lyrics

      And they don’t have to receive awards after using anti-gay slurs 213 of their album. But they do.

      You can’t control other peoples thoughts and mouths.

      But as a consumer, I can control where I spend my money. That said, if Tyler the Creator is free to spout anti-gay crap, then I’m free to bitch about it. You can’t control other peoples thoughts and mouths.

      If you don’t like some acts lyrical content and messages, don’t fucking listen.

      And if you don’t like the comments on a blog, don’t read them.

      But you don’t get to play morality police and say “this isn’t allowed.” Yes it is, and it will continue to be.

      As long as Americans are as complacent as you, I’m sure it will continue.

      However, when a white guy is the culprit of homophobia, no mention of his race or ethnicity is ever peeped

      Funny–you complain about white people pointing out Tyler’s race, yet your entire comment is race baiting.

      (especially if he’s young and relatively decent looking.)

      I don’t think you’ve been reading Queerty for very long, sunshine.

      *That* is a double standard.

      Then stop reading Queerty.

      By the way–when Axl Rose said niggers in his song, “One In A Million”, he also complained about faggots. I guess you forgot that part. You also most likely forgot that Bobcat Goldthwait publicly lambasted Axl Rose for those lyrics–the only artist do to so. Bobcat was ridiculed by the media, and other comedians, especially Sam Kinison. G n R wrote on the record sleeve of their next album, “Fuck Bobcat Goldthwait”.

      Don’t preach about history, if you don’t know the entire history.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SBC19
      SBC19

      @Tackel:

      No doubt. “Jason” is known for using sock puppets to either back himself up, or to promote his same general attitude to make it seem like he’s not the only racist buffoon in our midst. I wish Queerty was a better moderated site, paid attention to the IP addresses of these comments, and blocked troublemakers such as him…but they’re more interested in the appearance of traffic, even if it comes from the same no-life loser with too much time on his hands.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Tackel:

      You have not been reading Queerty for very long, have you?

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @SBC19:

      Hmm…Isn’t it funny that both you, and Tackel showed up at the same time.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SBC19
      SBC19

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones:

      “Hmm…” I notice you didn’t deny the accusation, and are now trying to divert attention from it instead. Tackel and I aren’t the same poster; nor did we show up at the same time. And I welcome any of the moderators at Queerty to look up our IP addresses to see as much. Now, what would they find if they looked up you and “Jason?” “Hmm…”

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • christopher di spirito
      christopher di spirito

      @Aiden: You’re either dumb or full of shit or both. I’ll let you decide.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:42 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Malwyn
      Malwyn

      I think Chris Brown hit the nail on the head: Tyler is actually promoting hate, death, and destruction. I don’t know why someone would buy music like that or listen to it.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 7:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DARKSKIN FETISH
      DARKSKIN FETISH

      @christopher di spirito: thumbs down… Sorry…

      Aug 30, 2011 at 8:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DARKSKIN FETISH
      DARKSKIN FETISH

      @christopher di spirito: BTW isn’t Eminem a rapper??? BOOOOOOOOOOOOO. You’re such a loooooooooozeeeeeeer.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 8:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      @Malcolm: I’m sure you want to get a rise out of someone with your ignorant comment but idiot like you aren’t worth the air you breathe.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 8:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ElCidd
      ElCidd

      These nothings sure are lucky that civilized people invented recording-devices and cds for them. That way a few of them could make it, through a fluke, and make lots of $$$. If not for people with– just slightly higher I.Q.s— he’d be an unknown silly thing dancing with a hambone in some Mississippi alleyway for spare change.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 8:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ronbo
      Ronbo

      @burgers: I honor you for having the guts to actually call yourself what you eat, Burgers. Most of the kids eating their snot aren’t as accomplished.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 9:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jake
      Jake

      You guys have to realize that most of Tyler, The Creator’s music is satirical, and not done seriously.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 10:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Scott
      Scott

      I suppose you people never bothered to listen to Tyler, The Creator or any of Odd Future’s lyrics for that matter. They discuss killing, cannibalism, misogyny, suicide etc. in a satirical and comical manner. OF and Tyler, The Creator both claim to have love for their fans, and if Tyler himself claims to have gay fans, then I guess he loves them too, right?

      On a side note, these guys are really blowing up. All of this ‘In DA Club’ simplistic garbage called ‘hip hop’ is being tossed aside. You need to give these guys credit for having the guts to do something out of the mainstream comfort zone and manage to get mainstream success out of it!

      Aug 30, 2011 at 10:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jake
      Jake

      @Scott: Actually, I’m a huge fan of Tyler, The Creator, and I’ve heard everything he’s ever recorded (and at that matter, even all of OFWGKTA’s material). I’m gay and a fan of Tyler, and I really don’t see what’s the problem here. To be honest, I don’t detect any hatred towards homosexuals in his music, I just hear the word “faggot” being said frequently; and frankly, this is part of his image. He has this whole “I don’t give a fuck” attitude to put on to the media, and I think it’s all to set up controversy. I respect him, and frankly I adore his music.

      To each his own, I suppose, because they’re just words. It’s the intentions that matter.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 10:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 12345deviant
      12345deviant

      And I bet he even has a gay friend. Typical

      Aug 30, 2011 at 11:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • David Ehrenstein
      David Ehrenstein

      TYLER THE NIGGER!
      TYlER THE NIGGER!
      TYLER THE NIGGER!
      TYLER THE NIGGER!
      TYLER THE NIGGER!
      TYLER THE NIGGER!
      TYLER THE NIGGER!
      TYLER THE NIGGER!
      TYLER THE NIGGER!
      TYLER THE NIGGER!
      TYLER THE NIGGER!
      TYLER THE NIGGER!

      See? They’re just words aren’t they?

      Aug 30, 2011 at 11:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jake
      Jake

      @David Ehrenstein: Was that sarcastic?…because that’s all I see, just words.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 11:20 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jake
      Jake

      @David Ehrenstein: Was that sarcastic?…because that’s all I see, just words. Now, if you actually meant that in a racist manner, then you’re a bigot.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 11:21 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mike
      mike [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @David Ehrenstein: I Bet You Tyler Would Just LOL At That Hahaha

      Aug 30, 2011 at 11:26 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Nick
      Nick

      I actually did an article about OFWGKTA on my website, and it’s actually positive. From a purely musical standpoint- Odd Future is exposing their fanbase to music influences they’d never know on their own. Yes, their abhorrent use of “faggot” is exascerbating, but let’s remember that their lyrics are for shock value. Odd Future’s lyrics aren’t just homophobic- they are blatantly mysogynistic, anti religous, racist, and immediately insults pretty much every minority known to mankind. Given this, it’s difficult to assume that Tyler the Creator’s lyrics are directly towrads the gay community and not just for mere shock value. Bottom line, these out of control 20 year olds have a ridiculously large fanbase and a major influence on indie hip hop. Check out my blog to read further on my opinion of this obscure collective.

      Aug 30, 2011 at 11:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jeff in NYC
      Jeff in NYC

      @lol: classy
      @mike: stop assuming I’m a cracker
      @flog gnaw: What an argument. Prove I’m wrong.
      @Ashton cruz: Thanks for the best comment on the entire post.
      @SBC19: Don’t worry, I’ll call anyone who uses the word ‘faggot’ out on their shit. I’ll also call out anyone on calling a black person a ‘nigger’, or a Jewish person a ‘kike’, etc.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 12:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jean
      Jean

      I don’t like his words, they are homophobic and misogynist, however, this, like all the people pissing themselves over Kanye’s Monster video has very much turned into an issue of the Big Scary Black Man saying things we don’t like. Tegan and Sarah even suggest that they’re super brave for calling him out when no one is willing to call out a black man for fear of appearing racist. You can’t say that and proceed to call him out for being black. Where are the activists pissing themselves when white rockers do shit like this? If Tyler was a white guy performing rock music, no one would care, are, they’d view it completely differently. It wouldn’t be and indictment of a genre of music or an entire race of people, it would be an indictment of him and only him. Criticize Tyler all you like, I don’t care, but don’t tar all rappers or all black people with that brush, it only exposes how ignorant you are.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 1:05 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Adman
      Adman

      @mike: If you’d stop assuming that you’re all brand new and shit, taking on “issues” (there’s a joke in itself, when talking to a millennial hip-hop drone) for the first time, you’d figure out that “old crackers” have encountered these social dynamics again and again in our lives. Sure enough see, there were millions of bitch made, punk ass man-children like you then too. Immature clowns with a stupid pose are part of every knuckle dragging youth culture, dumb shit. Dumb as the day is long, and able to start a riot? You’ll just get stomped out, son. Figure it out while you’re still able to mend, and you won’t end up broken like the vast majority of your “artists” have and will.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 1:09 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jean
      Jean

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: Seriously? These are people who were hugely popular well into the 90s, you think things have changed that much in 15 or so years? I got bad news for you.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 1:10 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Adman
      Adman

      @Ladi: STFU about gay tokens, ya freakin’ ditz. Nobody here REALLY cares about dumb shit and his lesbian hostage, get it? Just getting some kicks at a dull normals’ expense, that’s what this comment section is all about with this kind of article. Haters be hatin’ and life goes on right dummy?

      Aug 31, 2011 at 1:17 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • R.JHour
      R.JHour

      Sure. Blacks can spew complete hatred, ignorance, bigotry about everyone (and especially gays) but the moment they are called out on it…the person who is being called insensitive slurs is the “racist”…..and then blacks wonder why so many people have disdain for them? You have this calculating way of insulting then playing the victim card in the same breath. Somehow YOU are the only people who can say anything offensive and bigoted but because your ancestors suffered years ago- you are completely entitled to say whatever you wish. And the person on the recieving end just has to deal with it…because you’re black and God Forbid anyone say anything about a black person or black culture or the black community. This note is not lost on most Americans, and THIS is resulting in the major racial tension in our country. Blacks see themselves as untouchable, but everyone else is fair game to hate on and be ignorant toward. And I say this as a Latino who’s experienced enough anti latin racism (from blacks) and homophobia (from blacks) here in Los Angeles to speak first hand on the matter.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 3:44 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SteveinATL
      SteveinATL

      I find it totally interesting how if a celeb says something not even really racist toward African Americans, the African American community goes on an instant witch hunt to fire the person from their job on the spot and completely turn their reputation in to Hitler. when a black celeb says homophobic things, the African American community will band together and say the only reason the African American star is subject to backlash is because of their race, all while excusing the bigoted comments they made. happens all the time. the double standard African Americans have toward homophobia. in my life, I’ve experienced more homophobia from the African American community than any other and when you speak your truth you somehow are the racist. why? AA’s will defend each other to the death because in their eyes they can do no wrong.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 3:53 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • LookiTT
      LookiTT

      @SteveinATL: It’s excused because generally the AA community is held to lower standards. Whites, Asians, and many Hispanics shrug and figure, “Well….it’s THEM…”

      Aug 31, 2011 at 3:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • realitybites
      realitybites

      lol I love how black members of this site are the FIRST to play the race card all while telling gays not to play the gay card for someone making money off an ugly word that was used to kill many gay folk.

      Not to mention, the F word is the last word many gay people heard when they were alive before being killed to death. but black members on this blog will scream “racist” at you at the same time they tell you that you can’t police people’s comments. WTF? which one is it? If you black posters are so quick to play the race card because people dare bring up the obvious fact in our society that the black population is more uncofmortable with gay than others, and you say people are racist to bring that up (bull sh-t!) then don’t go tell gay people that they can’t be offended when someone makes millions using a disgusting anti gay word. blacks take the cake on busting out your handy dandy “I’m offended. make that person stop!” card. when others do it, and rightfully do it you’re so quick to tell them to simmer down and get over it.

      “~Civil rights for all….well, by all, we mean blacks. Everyone else wait you’re turn. Oh, and our people suffered more than you so just for that, you gotta wait even longer!~”

      Aug 31, 2011 at 4:08 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SteveinATL
      SteveinATL [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @R.JHour: A sad reality with black people you’ll come to realize, or have already realized, is that they will excuse the most inhumane action of the worst member of their community all due to sharing the same skin color. Black athlete murders his wife in cold blood? America is the racist for having the nerve to make him go on trial. A black public figure is torturing dogs, feeding them glass, before grabbing them and slamming them against the wall and the black community awards him an African American achievment award the following year and claims racism was the reason for his punishment. And on this site, that point is driven home more notoriousley than any other establishment. Black LGBT will defend the most hate laced, hate filled, homophobic offender so long as he’s black. They’ll attempt to sell you on the idea that his homophobic words are “poetic lyrics”, that “the word faggot has absolutely nothing at all to do with gays. At all. Not even the slightest” and like a few posters wisely noted above, that you are the intolerant one for having the nerve to point out their homophobia. How dare you speak against their fellow black brother, who can do no wrong in their eyes. All this boils down to homophobia. In the black culture, gays are beneath everyone else and for gay individuals to think they have the power to ever speak back to a black individual is a complete insult for them. That’s what all this boils down to. We’re opening our eyes. Slowly yet surely, even us extremely far left leaning liberals are opening our eyes.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 4:19 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Michelle C.
      Michelle C.

      word to the wise:

      anytime someone defends the word ‘faggot’ while trying to educate you on how different the N word is, in so many words what they are really saying is:

      “Gays should be called ‘faggots’ they haven’t been through anything and don’t deserve sympathy. Now n(i)gger is an offensive word that should be outlawed because blacks went through more hate than gays. Gays have to go through a discrimination right of passage before we ever consider not using the word ‘faggot”

      Don’t ever let a person who tries to educate you on the word ‘faggot’ and how tame it is get away with it. They are almost always the most homophobic members of society and thrive off using the word against gays.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 4:38 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shawn
      Shawn

      Race has nothing to do with homophobia? According to who? deluded black brothers? white guilt ridden caucasian gays? Manhatten homos? Give me a break and let’s start having realistic dialogue. A majority of gay people, whether admited in mixed company or not, know race has and culture have a whole lot to do with homophobia. I’ve lived it and know it to be true.

      + There IS far more rampant homophobia in the African American community. Ever sat in a black church? I have. Many a times. The Amens toward the anti gay drivel were just a bit more militant. To deny the existence and role the black church, religion and dogma play in the lives of black people is absolutely misleading, misguided and calculating.

      + There’s been books devoted to down low brothers. An epedemic. It’s not just a saying, it’s a way of life for many black gay men and that’s by no coincidence and goes hand in hand with black homophobia. Are there closeted white/hispanic gay men and woman? sure, but not at the rate of black LGBT. That’s a well known fact we have all seen, heard and know to be true.

      + There’s been many outspoken black activists who have come out and said black homophobia is more intolerant than other forms of homophobia, most recently Don Lemonn. Black, gay and out.

      + Even while being homophobic, DL Hughley and Sherie Sheperd on the View said that in the black community, we know those singing in the choir are gay but they can’t come out because it’s very taboo and unspoken of, and most black families either shun their gay children out of their lives completely or it’s not spoken of.

      + The Propisition 8 vote and nearly ALL marriage equality polls that indicate the #1 demographic with an issue with gay marriage is blacks is not some fabricated, racist stat. It’s concrete, legit, well established, studies and statistics that may not suit your agenda to paint black people as being terribly tolerant, but it does paint inconvenient facts.

      + Homophobia is prevelant in black sub culture, hip hop, down to street culture. To say that just because white people also partake in these activities means that they are equally contributing to the stigma is a false statement filled with manipulation. Street cultures by black youth, mostly in inner cities, views being gay as the most intolerable trait one could have. FACT. Go live in the ghetto for a year like I did then come tell me that’s a false statement.

      + To claim people are somehow racist for pointing out a matter of fact that homophobia is increasingly prominent within the black community is in my opinion actually quite homophobic.

      Who are you really fooling? yourself? to sleep better at night? Go for it. But the rest of us in reality know better, and choose to remain in reality, even if it makes you uncomfortable to face facts.

      Signed,
      Biracial, gay, out, lived it all and only speak truth.

      Oh, and the clown above in that mess of a video just reaffirms all my points. All the black gay apologists sticking up for him and his low life language; just effing stop. Now you’re really making us all look bad and proving even black gays couldn’t give two jacks about combating homophobia.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 5:49 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Shawn
      Shawn [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @SteveinATL: Not all blacks. I’m black (biracial, but one drop rule) and I certainly don’t make excuses for ignorant ass black people. Never have, never will. I know many in the AA community do whip out the race card and don’t realize a community is judged by the actions of their worst member and the reaction of fellow members to them. Instead, our reaction tends to be to holla the race word, but not all of us. My partner is also black and always calls out black ignorance because we believe in accountability and being real with facts.

      What also irks me black people have turned gay rights into some sick competition where because gays didn’t live out as much opression as our grand parents did, that gays don’t deserve to fight vocally for their civil rights. It’s absolute BS.

      I and my partner will tell you straight up, we didn’t experience half the vile for being black as we did for being gay. Not in any town we moved to did anyone express zilch about us being black, but us being gay and living together was enough to bring serious hate, and often from members of my own ethnic minority group. Being gay in this day and age brings with it far more senseless acts of discrimination than I have ever had to endure in my adult life for being black. Period.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 6:01 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Samuel Kestu
      Samuel Kestu

      I appreciate GLAAD saying something about this guy. GLAAD does a good job.

      I haven’t seen the MTV VMA awards 2011 yet. I plan to see the show, to see what Lady Gaga did. There’s a lot of buzz about that. And I like Lady Gaga!

      When this guy comes on, I think I will watch it. It’s nice to have advance warning that the performance is homophobic.

      If this guy ever shows up in my neighborhood, perhaps I’ll write a letter or two, send an email, do some Tweeting about it. It depends upon how offensive I find this VMA awards performance.

      Depending upon the performance, I may do some letter-writing, emailing and Tweeting even sooner.

      I think the day will come when MTV, and perhaps even BET, will stop broadcasting these types of derogatory performances.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 7:15 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • VikingsFan
      VikingsFan

      Gotta love the fools trying to sell us on the idea that the word fggot is devoid of any attachment to gay. You can rewrite history all you want, but those of us in the GLBT with an ounce of self respect know better and know our history better. As a commentator above wrote, too many gays and lesbians have been murdered with this hateful word being chanted for any self respecting gay and lesbian person to ever give a free pass to it. The gays who try to convince themselves that when someone says “Uhh. Eww that’s soooo GAY!” it has absolutely no correlation to gay = bad are the same types of gay who refer to themselves as “str8 ACTING” and who often go out of their way to fit in with the masses, even if that means throwing a few fem gays, butch lesbians, transgenders and ALL fggots under the bus. You have no shame, no dignity, no respect. That’s your own choosing, but again, don’t expect the rest of us self respecting gays, lesbians and transgenders to celebrate that word being uttered by someone who has absolutely no idea the meaning, history, and power attached to it and is in turn making big bucks as a result of exploiting it. You go get your pom poms and cheer him on after a good rim job. We’re busy donating our time and effort to the Trevor Project and the at risk gay youth who are feeling the hurt and pain from that.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 7:23 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dynex101
      Dynex101

      No… He doesn’t get a pass for his homophobia…. Some gay men are just weak, and submissive and don’t know how to stand up for themselves and their respect…. And spare us your bull about poetry and lyrics….what a joke… his fan base is a buncha 16 year old acne faced, angry at the world, twats who use him as their mouth piece to get out their A.D.D-like anger….you know, after they like play with their Marvel comic strips and video games.

      This KIDS got more people making fun of him than taking him seriously on many different forums…. Go take a peak at what they say about him…. He’s got a 15 minute piece of that fame cake strictly for getting some buzz…. but one google search shows you the buzz is more jokes at his expense than it is praise…. This is the classic one hit wonder…. Ask where he is in 5 years and the person who knows the answer is related to him.

      Finally…and any grown ass adult that be seeking “inspirational lyrics” from a 19 year old who is quoted as saying he likes to smell his own farts needs to run and see a shrink. Now. Like right now. Go. Run.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 7:43 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lynda
      Lynda

      He told a lesbian singer who spoke against his homophobia that he has a dick she could play with since that’s what he heard she needs. As a lesbian, that mentality is the biggest struggle, sometimes grossly physical struggle, we lesbians have to overcome when it comes to straight men. Any gay man who defends his actions and claims this thug is not homophobic is a piece of sheyet yourself. Be a piece of dirt all you want, but don’t get your panties turned when the rest of us see him for the piece of sheyet he is.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 7:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • James
      James

      On a positive note, check out this video of the rapper Jadakiss talking positively about an openly gay rapper http://youtu.be/C3jsc2MwN4c , also Akon signed Jeffree Starr, so there are hip hoppers out there who are supportive, which is a nice change from the norm, not just in hip hop but in general.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 8:22 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • James
      James

      On a positive note, check out this video of the rapper Jadakiss talking positively about an openly gay rapper http://youtu.be/C3jsc2MwN4c , also Akon signed Jeffree Starr, so there are hip hoppers out there who are supportive, which is a positive twist on this story :)

      Aug 31, 2011 at 8:24 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Casper_O
      Casper_O

      @Nick: Nick, you are totally on point. They have made it so enormously clear so many times that they are throwing punches at everybody regardless.
      For those of you unable to see past “words” and take a careful look at his motivation for them. There is a difference between a words actual meaning and use.

      Tron Cat:

      This the type of shit that make children break in apartments
      When you tell a fucking orphan you don’t love them ’til they heart thin
      Starve her ’til I carve her then I shove her in the Rover
      Where I cut her like a barber with a Parkinson’s disorder
      Store her in a portable freezer with me to Portland
      Catch me with a bunch of fucking Mexicans crossing the border
      I’ll be the only wetback who ain’t really touched the water
      Cause I’ll be too fucking busy tryna flirt with Jesus’ daughter
      (Fuck Mary) I’m awesome, and I fuck dolphins
      Sicker than the starving Nigerian kids barfing
      Odd Future Wolf Gang Nazi bar mitzvah

      Tell me who he didn’t make fun of in 11 lines?

      I mean, Queerty, I love you, but music journalism isn’t and has never been your strong side.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 8:46 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Casper_O
      Casper_O

      This post is also clearly discriminatory to me; A gay OFWGTKA/Wolf Gang/Golf Wang/Tyler, The Creator fan…

      Aug 31, 2011 at 8:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Piepoo
      Piepoo

      He’ll end up selling drugs on the streets in 5 years. And by then, not a damn person will know what he’s up to except a relative or two. Hoodlums like him end exactly as they started life. Truth hurts.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 9:34 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • David Ehrenstein
      David Ehrenstein

      @Samuel Kestu: You got it dea to rights. The worst homophobia I ever faced was from my own — black — family.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 9:41 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • David Ehrenstein
      David Ehrenstein

      @Shawn: My Bad. I was reacting to Shawn, not Samuel Kestu.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 9:43 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jake
      Jake

      Guys…if you don’t like his music, then you don’t have to listen to it. He’s trying to express himself in the most offensive way possible, and if he wants to do that, then let him. The second you guys are telling him he should stop making music, etc. is the second that YOU guys cross the line. Basically, if you don’t like it, then fuck off, if he really IS homophobic, then he doesn’t have to partake in gay actions.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 11:19 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @SBC19:

      The same thing they’d find if they looked up your IP address.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 11:22 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Jake:

      To each his own, I suppose, because they’re just words. It’s the intentions that matter.

      That’s a lovely little speech, but ti doesn’t change the fact that someone who used an anti-gay slur 213 times on their record, gets an award. Eminem used violent lyrics towards gays, and used anti-gay slurs, and won awards. In America today, all one must do is claim “artistic” freedom, or say the words they use don’t mean what people say they mean, and they are given a pass.

      This is about straight people using anti-gay slurs, and getting away with it. Once again it’s been proven that to the great majority of hets in America, homosexual Americans don’t mean shit.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 11:28 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Nick:

      Bottom line, these out of control 20 year olds have a ridiculously large fanbase and a major influence on indie hip hop.

      Yes, and today, gays are still being harassed, legislated against, made illegal, and killed. Funny how that works, isn’t it?

      Aug 31, 2011 at 11:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Jean:

      These are people who were hugely popular well into the 90s

      The key word being were.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 11:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • slanty
      slanty

      With that cross on his shirt, I’m surprised there haven’t been more comments linking Tyler to militant Christian groups. I wonder if anything will show up in the future.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 11:40 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Jake:

      Guys…if you don’t like his music, then you don’t have to listen to it. He’s trying to express himself in the most offensive way possible, and if he wants to do that, then let him.

      Why does he, and every other het who uses anti-gay slurs get a pass? Why is it when racist bands express themselves in the most offensive manner possible, they get arrested, and charged with hate for using racial slurs?

      That is a double standard.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 11:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Yellow Belly
      Yellow Belly

      His album is named Goblin, and he LOOKS like a Goblin with his tongue out like that.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 11:46 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jake
      Jake

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: Actually, I really don’t care if anyone is awarded for their “hate speech”, as he is free to say whatever he wants. What you guys are trying to do is prevent people who you think have these “ideals” from saying what words they want to say, and in doing that YOU become the idiots in this conversation.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 11:59 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jake
      Jake

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: People get ARRESTED solely for using racist vocabulary? Where does that happen? Seriously, prove me wrong if you want, I’ll accept it. I believe that people only get arrested and charged when they discriminate against others for race, which is completely different than using a word.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 12:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      @R.JHour: You sound so ignorant it’s not even funny. Take a look at my other comments and learn something.. with your comment I see why people call you racist. Your comment was laced with bigotry and does being latin give you a free pass??

      Aug 31, 2011 at 12:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • mike
      mike [Different person #2 using similar name]

      and why is it that most of you fags are defending this insignificant? am black by the way :P

      Aug 31, 2011 at 1:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      @realitybites: You do realize blacks can be gat too, right? And what statistics do you have that proves blacks are more homophobic than any other race.

      I’m a gay black male btw. Take a look at my comments on here, show me where a black gay person made excuses for this idiot Tyler.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 1:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      @Gay Veteran: *gay

      Aug 31, 2011 at 1:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      The trolls came out in full force on this one…. and I mean trolls from both sides(defending Tyler the Asshat and discriminating against the black community).

      “Blacks are so homophobic” “Freaking Niggers thing they can get away with murder” “It’s a double standard” “Blacks have it sooo easy” blah, blah, blah.

      Just some of the ignorance being spewed in the comments section. I’m still waiting for someone to prove this “blacks being more homophobic” argument. Prove it with FACTS and not opinion.

      JUST FUCKING IGNORANCE. Makes me sick to my stomach.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 1:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      @christopher di spirito: So instead of addressing the issue you call me names. Sounds like someone doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 2:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Aiden
      Aiden

      Man, gays are so decisive. Instead of discussing his homophobia or even homophobia in hip hop people couldn’t wait to start bashing black people. You people on this site are the people that cause problems not solve them. Your willing to blame all of your problems on 13% of the population. Ugh.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 2:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • wow
      wow

      Dont listen to his music you fucking fags!
      You guys are all pussys if the word faggot offends you so much. Tyler can rap or talk about whatever he wants. Hes only 20 and im sure in 5 years he’ll be still having a better life than yours LOL

      Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • wow
      wow

      And its pretty hilarious that we have soooo many fortune tellers in this thread hating on tyler by saying hes a one hit wonder and he wont be around in a few years….. LOL @ you guys. Odd Future are all young and he just is starting his career be prepared to hate on them for many many years.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 2:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • slanty
      slanty

      I’m glad to see David Ehrenstein’s comment was deleted. Racist slurs are hateful and there’s no excuse for using them.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 3:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lookitt
      Lookitt

      @slanty: Ehrenstein is black himself though. I think he was just trying to make a point.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 3:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Henry
      Henry [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @slanty: For some reason, the anti-black comments are always posted by someone using a Jewish name. I don’t see any Kims, Tangs, or Paks speaking out against black people.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 3:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • lookiTT
      lookiTT

      @mike: That’s really true, in the long run. It’s not like we’re talking about Johnny Mathis or something..

      Aug 31, 2011 at 3:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • slanty
      slanty

      Strike that, it wasn’t deleted. It’s still up there, number 62. I guess a different comment was deleted… since I noticed the numbers went down one.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 3:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • lookiTT
      lookiTT

      @Henry: I think the Kims and Tangs are so above rap and its culture that they couldn’t be bothered even noticing it or mentioning it. They’re too busy running businesses and winning first prize at science fairs to waste time hanging out on Queerty too.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 3:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Johnny
      Johnny

      So my earlier post was taken down because it was to inflammatory and people complained about its content……It was just words why should it matter, it was not meant. Just like this turd as he claims it wasn’t meant to be taken to heart. Too much of a double standard on this board…..

      Aug 31, 2011 at 3:37 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @Jake:

      What you guys are trying to do is prevent people who you think have these “ideals” from saying what words they want to say, and in doing that YOU become the idiots in this conversation.

      And by defending anti-gay language, you’ve become a useful idiot. Look it up.

      @Jake:

      People get ARRESTED solely for using racist vocabulary? Where does that happen? Seriously, prove me wrong if you want, I’ll accept it.

      The members of Skrewdriver have been arrested multiple times. And it has happened in America, and Canada. I wonder if they replaced their racist words with anti-gay ones, if they’d get awards. Or does that only apply to rappers?

      Aug 31, 2011 at 3:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @wow:

      im sure in 5 years he’ll be still having a better life than yours LOL

      And you’ll still be a nobody.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 4:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • gordon
      gordon

      actually if you look the lyrics up he uses the word “faggot” or “fag” about 10 times on his album. while still unacceptable it is far less than the 213 times many articles are reporting. please check your facts before bashing a young, talented artist.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 4:33 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • wow
      wow [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @ Mr. Enemeabag Jones

      And you’ll probably be still posting on this site lol

      my young life > yours

      Aug 31, 2011 at 4:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • timothy
      timothy

      heavy sigh… And people wonder why the ruling class which is equal parts homophobia, racism, misogyny, and classicism can never fully be challenged. We’re too busy throwing each other under the bus. What the hell does Tyler the creators race have to do with anything? If you want to cite his under-privileged background and youth as insufficient reasons his hate is excused then do so, but simply being black has never gotten anyone a pass for anything in America- stop playing the oppression Olympics. Furthermore Tyler doesn’t own MTV or Viacom- rich heterosexual white men do. If you couple this with CBS problems at Big Brother we see a pattern of homophobia at Viacom. If you want to be an effective organizer tyler the creator is small fish go after the Shark.
      That being said I’d like to see Lady Gaga, katy Perry, etc speak out… its easy to say generic things that involve no risk where’s your useful activism???b

      Aug 31, 2011 at 5:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ernest
      Ernest

      What a fuckin nigger! he’s a typical stereotype out of the ghetto. the way he responded to the whole issue was bullshit. my attitude is this, if i’m a faggot to him, then to me he’s a nigger, but one that looks like Gilbert Gottfried!

      Aug 31, 2011 at 5:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      @Ernest: What did you accomplish by using that word.. except for offend black members of the glbt community. I’m sure you don’t care about that though. You’re no different from that lowlife Tyler.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 7:14 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jay Sanchez
      Jay Sanchez

      His fans above are a perfect reflection of this monster. They spew homophobia, they call gay men on here the F word, they sound uneducated, violent, low life and trashy. That’s who he is meant to appeal to. Gays, Lesbians and our community has too much class and integrity to champion some hateful trash in an era where our kids our taking their own lives due to these very words. I’m thrilled to see so many gays stand against this, and join forces by uniting against ignorance. Those of you defending ignorant terms, ignorant sayings, and ignorant statements all to “fit in” and feel “cool” are in the minority. You will loose this culture war as gays are gaining more acceptance and respect than any time before today, and it started when many gay men and woman said they would not tolerate the word “faggot” and “dyke” being used non chalantly in every day speech, when the community effected most by those terms is still treated as second class citizens. Proud to see those with a spine fighting for their rights and respect. Keep up the good fight. There’s literally millions around the world standing and supporting you shoulder to shoulder with you.

      Nothing racist about calling a bigot a bigot. Put your race card away.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 8:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Adman
      Adman

      @Jake: This is what we need more of.

      “He’s trying to express himself in the most offensive way possible, and if he wants to do that, then let him.”

      You need to be a brownshirt to breed, to be black? To make art? To get onstage with a mike? Tell me more, you near-psychotic little darling of evil…..You couldn’t begin to describe the ambivalence and self hatred you feel in any meaningful way, so you equivocate at others expense, and have the sheer dumb nerve to call it a principled argument. Your even implying your logical. Bravo, meathead.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 9:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jake
      Jake

      @Mr. Enemabag Jones: Defending anti-gay language? I’m defending his freedom of speech. I don’t give a damn about what he means with this language, because frankly he does it with a sarcastic tone that isn’t vicious at all. He makes fun of literally everything he possibly can, including taking self-hits all the time, and it’s purely for shock value.

      “I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it” -Voltaire

      Aug 31, 2011 at 9:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Adman
      Adman

      @wow: Your young dumb life has already been wasted. It’s potential has left this realm, if it even existed in the first place. The rest of your story will be sad, but not really for us. After all, we know how you did it, don’t we? Haters be hatin’, but there’s more of you then there are of us, right? We’ll see in ten years, man child.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 9:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • uija
      uija

      if words are just words, then black posters on here just “need to get over!” the post they percieve to be racist. I mean- words are just words with no meaning according to you all, right? and the few of you who are telling the many gay posters here insulted by anti gay words to “get over it”. Fine. Now you get over the “racist” posts. They are just words. And so is the N word.
      lol playing victim while running and telling others not to be offended just refuels what many people (I’m asian, not white) think of black people to be. They ONLY care about anti black discrimination. Anytime someone else feels discriminated against (Jews, woman, gays, whites, hispanics) blacks rush to saying how they need to get over it. Why? always want to feel like the biggest victim?

      Aug 31, 2011 at 9:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @wow:

      And you’ll probably be still posting on this site lol

      Because my opinion matters. Yours? Not so much.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 9:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      Defending anti-gay language? I’m defending his freedom of speech.

      You’re defending anti-gay slurs, by crouching those slurs in “freedom” of speech arguments. No one is curtailing his freedom. I’m merely pointing out that in America, anti-gay slurs are rewarded with accolades, and praise. While racist slurs are condemned.

      You’re free to defend his anti-gay language, just as I’m free to oppose it. You however are telling me I have no right to oppose it, while I have not once said you have no right to defend him. Clearly you only support “free speech” for those you support.

      “I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it” -Voltaire

      Quoting people smarter than yourself doesn’t make your argument right. You know what else Voltaire wrote?

      Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 10:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • lookiTT
      lookiTT

      @timothy: timothy : You must be some college boy, or even a college professor, to believe in some ruling class that is “equal parts homophobia, racism, misogyny, and classicism..” and suggest everybody else is supposed to be the minority with forces-joined-against-them !! yeah !!! The world is more shades of gray than that. Others you put in that “minority” category despise gays far more than your fantasy white-hetero-executive boogeymen. And, from clues in your post, you’re probably an anti-Semite as well.

      Aug 31, 2011 at 10:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • wow
      wow [Different person #1 using similar name]

      @ Mr. Enemabag Jones

      Your opinion means to me as much as the sh*t I just took.

      @ Adman

      Wtf are you talking about idiot. Stop rambling on about shit you know nothing about.

      lolz at all the old fuckers in these comments who think their opinion means more than mine or anyone elses. Keep replying back while I sit here blazing bowls and living the good life. Haha all the gays are in a frenzy.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 2:09 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SteveinATL
      SteveinATL [Different person #2 using similar name]

      @wow: blazing bowls? that’s class right there. And the good life? yeah, living on welfare checks, in the ghetto, while dodging bullets and not being able to string together a coherent sentence is a great life there bud. Do you even know who your father is? Or is your own mom confused about that too? Ghetto is as ghetto does.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 2:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • joe
      joe

      As a homosexual it bothers me that when some homosexuals acts inappropriately most of the time other homosexuals do not see the issue as having significant weight or they ignore or regard it as some positive trait like being honest, concise or strong-minded (which aren’t necessarily the most becoming of traits).

      However, when a heterosexual acts inappropriately towards homosexuals, most homosexuals immediately brand them as being homophobic, ignorant, as a bigot and/or whatever other words they feel may make the person and his/her comments seem invalid and of no value when they themselves have little knowledge of the individuals reason and context. It’s become this move and i personally would be ashamed if i did that to someone else.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 8:25 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • joe
      joe

      As a homosexual it bothers me that when some homosexuals acts inappropriately most of the time other homosexuals do not see the issue as having significant weight or they ignore or regard it as some positive trait like being honest, concise or strong-minded (which aren’t necessarily the most becoming of traits).

      However, when a heterosexual acts inappropriately towards homosexuals, most homosexuals immediately brand them as being homophobic, ignorant, as a bigot and/or whatever other words they feel may make the person and his/her comments seem invalid and of no value when they themselves have little knowledge of the individuals reason and context. It’s become this very lazy and cowardly move that most homosexuals do and i personally strive to avoid doing such a thing.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 8:26 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • joe
      joe

      As for the issue of Tyler the creator, i personally like his music. His music lyrically isn’t as easy to swallow compared to other musicians however when one disregards this or becomes accustom to this-and i understand when some individuals cannot and will not- his music generally sounds excellent and what people don’t seem to recognise is that in essence most of his songs are perverse however extremely positive. I know many will mostly quote and point out the negative aspects of music but when you base your understanding of Tyler the creators music on just that, you wont progress in your understanding.

      And to be crass for a bit: I think some gays just need to suck it up. Many will use the excuse that Tyler the creator and his music will not be beneficial to society and culture but even in the gay community, gays take part in things and approve of things that will also not be beneficial to society and culture. We live in an imperfect and inconsistent world and gays are not excluded from this.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 8:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • joe
      joe

      “I’m a fucking unicorn, the fuck to anybody that says i’m not”
      -Tyler the creator, Radical.

      I personally think this phrase perfectly incapsulates the essence of his music: You can do whatever you want. Don’t think about what others think and say. Be yourself.
      I respectfully am not into Lady Gaga and her music. I think her song Born this is too forceful in its message but i think this phrase is very similar in its message. It’s just much more explicit and humorous. He doesn’t take himself too seriously but his intentions are good.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 9:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @wow:

      lolz at all the old fuckers in these comments who think their opinion means more than mine

      It’s a simple truth, cupcake. Your opinion doesn’t mean a damn thing, while people seek out our opinions. You’re a nobody, ranting at no one. Either accept it, or don’t. Either way, you’ll still be irrelevant tomorrow,

      Keep replying back while I sit here blazing bowls and living the good life.

      Your mother must be very proud of you. What she did to deserve you, I have no idea.

      Haha all the gays are in a frenzy.

      I get a kick out of hets who cruise gay blogs. Make sure to brag about that to your hoodrat friends.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 9:28 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @SteveinATL:

      Yep. And this douchebag is Americas future.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 9:30 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @joe:

      And to be crass for a bit: I think some gays just need to suck it up. Many will use the excuse that Tyler the creator and his music will not be beneficial to society and culture but even in the gay community, gays take part in things and approve of things that will also not be beneficial to society and culture. We live in an imperfect and inconsistent world and gays are not excluded from this.

      The difference is, those gays you disapprove of aren’t on the VMA awards show, getting rewarded for the actions you disapprove of.

      I personally find it absurd that you support a person who has a world wide audience, using anti-gay slurs, but you disapprove of gay people doing things that no one sees.

      Clearly you have an issue with your own homosexuality, (if you are actually gay,) and the LGBTQ community in general. I seriously doubt Tyler The Creator will help you sort out those issues. But he will help you cement your belief that you and he, are somehow superior to the rest of us. That benefits no one.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 9:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mr. Enemabag Jones
      Mr. Enemabag Jones

      @joe:

      It’s become this very lazy and cowardly move that most homosexuals do and i personally strive to avoid doing such a thing.

      Gay men and women were fighting for your equality decades before you were born. They fought in the streets, courts, businesses, and schools for the freedom you enjoy today. You are directly benefiting from the blood, sweat and tears of real men and woman who came before you.

      And you have the mendacity to call these people lazy, and cowardly? Tyler isn’t shit. He’s a pathetic child of privileged who hasn’t had to lift a goddamned finger to get where he is today. And he hasn’t done a damned thing to make it easier for you to be a gay man in America today.

      This stupid child uses anti-gay slurs–slurs that for most victims of violence, are the last words they hear before being hurt, or killed. And you defend him, and those words.

      Do us all a favour–join Exodus, become a born again ex-gay, and please leave the LGBTQ community. If you’re too ignorant to understand, or appreciate what people have done before us to give you the ability to be openly gay today, you don’t deserve to partake of that freedom.

      Go and listen to your shitty hip-hop, and see what the rap “community” does to make your life better.

      And to point out the obvious, it’s absurd for you to condemn those who pass judgement on anti-gay people, while passing judgement yourself, on gay people. When gay people do things that you personally don’t approve of, it hurts them. When anti-gay heterosexuals do things to us, it hurts us as a whole.

      When a heterosexual acts “inappropriate” to us we can’t get married, we can’t adopt, we can’t be teachers, we can’t get housing, we have to pay more in taxes.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 9:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Adman
      Adman

      @wow: “lolz at all the old (or young) fuckers in these comments who think their opinion means more than mine or anyone elses.” A frenzy? What fabulous hyperbole for a young troll. I think you’re a very lucky young man to have such a caring mommy to bitch make you and buy you many bowls to blaze. You’re so primed for being old and alone, thanks for the laugh.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 12:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      @uija: How do you know every poster defending Tyler the Asshat is black… the guy has plenty of white fans too.. in fact he probably has more white fans than anything else because that’s who he mostly appeals to.

      Your ignorance/racism cancels out everything you could possibly say about this idiot(and his fans) homophobia.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 12:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      TO ALL the commenters criticizing Tyler Whatshisface

      When you spew racism/bigotry/ignorance all over this blog you cancel out anything you could possibly say about homophobia. How can you make an ignorant comment like this:

      ” A sad reality with black people you’ll come to realize, or have already realized, is that they will excuse the most inhumane action of the worst member of their community all due to sharing the same skin color. Black athlete murders his wife in cold blood? America is the racist for having the nerve to make him go on trial. A black public figure is torturing dogs, feeding them glass, before grabbing them and slamming them against the wall and the black community awards him an African American achievment award the following year and claims racism was the reason for his punishment. And on this site, that point is driven home more notoriousley than any other establishment. Black LGBT will defend the most hate laced, hate filled, homophobic offender so long as he’s black. They’ll attempt to sell you on the idea that his homophobic words are “poetic lyrics”, that “the word faggot has absolutely nothing at all to do with gays. At all. Not even the slightest” and like a few posters wisely noted above, that you are the intolerant one for having the nerve to point out their homophobia. How dare you speak against their fellow black brother, who can do no wrong in their eyes. All this boils down to homophobia. In the black culture, gays are beneath everyone else and for gay individuals to think they have the power to ever speak back to a black individual is a complete insult for them. That’s what all this boils down to. We’re opening our eyes. Slowly yet surely, even us extremely far left leaning liberals are opening our eyes”

      And then have the audacity to call out someone for their homophobia/prejudice. You make a comment that’s laced with bigotry/prejudice/racism/classism and you have the nerve to act as if you’re better than Tyler the Idiot.

      You’re the fucking same. Idiots who aren’t worth the air you breathe.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 12:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Gay Veteran
      Gay Veteran

      Now do something totally ironic and deny your racism by accusing me of playing the “race card”. Idiots. Pick up a book and learn about the world we live in.. not just the neighborhood you live in.

      Sep 1, 2011 at 12:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • joe
      joe

      I like Tyler the creator, I’m a bit christian, I’m a homosexual.

      I kinda don’t care if you think i’m some shame to the homosexual community. Well i guess i do to some degree or i wont be typing this down but it baffles me that someone just told me to join an ex gay therapy group for liking tyler the creator and having my own opinions about some gays that they don’t approve of. I guess what i just want to say-and i apologise if wasn’t able to say it in the most appropriate of ways or succinctly from the beginning- is that for a community known for its inclusiveness and strive for inclusiveness in mainstream society and culture, some of you are vocal in damning other gays for liking something that you don’t find to be appropriate for they gay community and for yourself. So what if you don’t approve of it or it doesn’t appeal to you, it doesn’t make us less of a “proper” homosexual citizen. That truly is a bitch-thing to say and if some homo told me that in person i would probably punch them in the face (but then again, they might accuse me of a hate crime…cunts).

      Sep 2, 2011 at 10:02 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • joe
      joe

      I like Tyler the creator, I’m a bit christian, I’m a homosexual.

      I kinda don’t care if you think i’m some shame to the homosexual community. Well i guess i do to some degree or i wont be typing this down but it baffles me that someone just told me to join an ex gay therapy group for liking tyler the creator and having my own opinions about some gays that they don’t approve of. I guess what i just want to say-and i apologise if wasn’t able to say it in the most appropriate of ways or succinctly from the beginning- is that for a community known for its inclusiveness and strive for inclusiveness in mainstream society and culture, some of you are vocal in damning other gays for liking something that you don’t find to be appropriate for they gay community and for yourself. So what if you don’t approve of it or it doesn’t appeal to you, it doesn’t make us less of a “proper” homosexual citizen. That truly is a bitch-thing to say and if some homo told me that in person i would probably punch them in the face (but then again, they might accuse me of a hate crime…cunts).

      ..and if you forgot, i’m a homo, i like men.

      Sep 2, 2011 at 10:04 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Adman
      Adman

      @joe: Well, you like men after you’ve condemned them in church to your hate industry pastor, and hidden yourself from the community who’s hatred of you you enable with every breath you take, only to sneak into the community of truth telling grown people fighting for everyone’s rights like a thief in the night, only to take pot shots at them. So I guess we’re supposed to believe you have or will have something to offer with your empty handed pose and parasitic aspirations around here? Is that it?

      Are you going to build a mighty and free black family with your gay lover? Just wondering. You embody Black Americas new rat fink cowardly morals, brought to you by Religion Inc. you should run around your church with the name Queerty.com in your mouth and spit it to every okey-doke retard you see. We’ll get famous with the Humpty Dumptys, yay. Nigger only hurts your feelings when I say it does, just like faggot. Get it?

      Sep 2, 2011 at 11:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ntrl
      ntrl

      To the dude saying Tyler has hasn’t lifted a finger to get where he is, are you fucking kidding me? OFWGKTA are 10 albums deep and Goblin was the first OF record which wasn’t self released.

      To all the racist fucks, yes, saying the word nigger is fine unless the context is hateful. The meaning of a word is all about the context.

      You’re all ridiculous in every possible way. You want equality, stop with the tit for tat bullshit and lighten the fuck up.

      Sep 4, 2011 at 11:52 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • OFWGKTADGAFLLBBSBFBN
      OFWGKTADGAFLLBBSBFBN

      All anti tyler fans shut the fuck up. u forget that all the comidiens in america have made jokes about faggots n died laughin eddie murphy mike epps katt williams. bitch even faggots call eachother faggots. eminem got on michael jackson bout bein a faggot michael was sad then got the fuck over it word from tyler get fucked in ur mouth wit a herpie infested dick bitch shut the fuck up if u dont like tyler dont listen to the fuckin music. im not homophobic faggot. ” whut the fuck i look like sayin im sorry to a bunch of fuckin faggots who cant potentially harm me” ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL DONT GIVE A FUCK drink assmilk nigga

      Nov 14, 2011 at 6:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • OFWGKTADGAFLLBBSBFBN
      OFWGKTADGAFLLBBSBFBN

      http://youtu.be/dg36FSiMHA4 radical
      http://youtu.be/ALLLipCbtBA Tron Cat
      http://youtu.be/G9APnohVAWE Golden
      http://youtu.be/vf1i2_rg6xk Yonkers
      http://youtu.be/wzlFB2QglrM Bastard
      http://youtu.be/snU2YjMlXvs sandwitches
      Listen to the shit b4 u assume shit muthafucka
      1 they have a lesbian in the group
      2 how the fuck did we get to the word nigger beside black ppl call eachother niggaz which means they either ignerant or the friend
      3 Faggot- a bunch or bundle of sticks
      4 hes expressing himself in a dark way need i remind u about eminem rappin about his mother
      5 wtf u gettin mad if some calls u a faggot if u a faggot well then u a faggot
      666 im not crazy im a fuckin table n a fuckin walkin pardox bitch fuck any1 who say im not nigga
      7 any person whose seen eddie murphy mike epps kevin hart chris rock or kat williams do stand up they dissed the fuck out of gay ppl n had gay ppl die of laughter
      8 i can c y some ppl call other ppl faggots….if u call me cupcake sweetie pie or honey n u a dude….imma call u a faggot “sweetie”
      9 y the hell u hatin on this man for doin him do u n we b cool all the hataz the reason y he famous
      10 get off his fuckin dick if u hatin he lost his dad (left him) n his best friend earl
      FREE EARL OFWGKTADGAFLLBBSBFBN

      Nov 14, 2011 at 6:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • erica
      erica

      “Maybe we’re old farts…” that’s definitely it. People not of this generation take so many things too seriously now. You automatically assume that his music WILL CAUSE KIDS TO partake in violence, rape, or whatever when that’s not the case at all. If you don’t like his music, don’t listen to it and don’t read about the whole OFWGTKA group. It’s that simple. I don’t like opera so I’m not going to go listen to opera and so on..

      Also, assuming that tyler is homophobic just because of his lyrics? Come on. When it comes to rap, let alone music, the artists become whoever they want to be. Being an artist means putting on a show for the crowd and something that catches the people’s eyes. THAT’S why Tyler got best new artist. THAT’S why Odd Future is growing amongst the kids – because it is so different and so vulgar it is something never put out there before and quite frankly (if you watch videos of Tyler and the rest of Odd Future) they are all just kids that wanna have a good time. Yes, the music is not for the faint hearted but I think that’s the point. Tyler pushes people to their edge and at times it supposed to be taken as extremely funny. After all, its just music and clearly Tyler just spits out wild stories, nothing to feel offended by. (He even said himself he read a few books on murder cases and rape, etc. that’s where he was intrigued by it. Reading about such subjects does not make him become evil or insane. Have you watched multiple CSI episodes on serial killers/rapists or Law and Order? WATCH OUT BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BECOME A MURDERER THEN!)

      If you don’t like his style of music then ok. He has his views/opinons and you can have yours – it’s not a crime to dislike something.

      Close minded people make me want to punch myself in the face.

      Dec 13, 2011 at 6:12 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jarrad
      Jarrad

      You guys need to chill. If you don’t like his music don’t listen. If you don’t want your kids listening don’t let the
      Be a good parent and lay down the law. If your offended oh well Tyler doesn’t care. He says it himself , Put this middle finger in your ear. I don’t see the problem. If you wanna listen listen and if you don’t then don’t. If u don’t like MTV giving him and award the. Don’t watch MTV. Eminem says faggot and he gets a bunch of awards but this 20 year old kid says it and you guys give him hate? Chill out lol

      Jan 3, 2012 at 3:43 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Brendan Ewen
      Brendan Ewen

      I am a bi-sexual, my best friend is a bi-sexual, many of my other friends are bi or gay and I am supportive of the LGBT community etc etc blah blah.

      My point is, I love Tyler’s music and the whole of OFWGKTA! I am a massive fan. When I hear someone use the word ‘faggot’ in the street it insults me. But Tyler has said on numerous times he is using the word ironically.

      I know some will say this doesn’t excuse him using it, but if you listen to the songs in context, he isn’t using it as a term to attack gays, more as a term to insult someone he doesn’t take a liking to. Like me calling someone a cunt (calm down).

      The point is, most of what Tyler does is ironic. He doesn’t like what mainstream hip-hop has become and so mocks it often. His song ‘Bitch Suck Dick’ is misogynistic and about how much jewellery the rappers have. It’s a MOCKERY of modern hip-hop and what it stands for.

      Chill out, this guy is only 20 years old, and likes to be controversial. Worse things have definitely happened.

      Jan 16, 2012 at 2:35 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Tyler
      Tyler

      FUCKING HOMO’S OVERREACTING. I’d call you a homo to your face and tell you to get over it because you are in fact a faggot. Because you do fuck people of the same gender as you. So fuck you faggots, I’m with a fat bitch.

      Feb 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JT
      JT

      OFWGKTADGAF

      Get it at tha end

      Odd future wolf gang kill them all DONT GIVE A FUCK

      Tyler don’t give a FUCK

      Apr 2, 2012 at 12:07 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Ghshtch
      Ghshtch

      Everyone here is a Huge Fagggggg

      Apr 14, 2012 at 2:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Andrew
      Andrew

      I don’t think you guys understand Tyler’s goal here. He’s a provocative musician. He wants articles like this written about him. He’s clearly not gay, one of the members from Odd Future (Syd tha Kyd) is a lesbian. This is no different than Marilyn Manson just a little less artistic, and a little more fun. I’m a huge OFWGKTA fan, and I still have yet to find anyone who takes his less serious songs seriously. I’d also like to excuse other Odd Future ‘fans’ who just blindly follow Tyler’s words, and end up tearing up half a city over it. They don’t understand the music, its not made for them, neither is it made for you.

      May 31, 2012 at 8:49 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Blah, bla..huh?
      Blah, bla..huh?

      @Andrew: I think people here understand “Tyler’s goal” better than you, he, or any of his “fans” do. You have to excuse those whom his provocations incite, you have to excuse yourself, and this defenestrated fool himself to “appreciate” his nihilism, and then claim you’re misunderstood because you’re playing a game. It’s a game that everyone loses, especially straining-over-the-toilet-bowl populists who discover nihilistic “art” and call it worthwhile.

      Tyler and his fans “don’t give a fuck”, because they can’t. It’s too much of a challenge for that kind of weak and worthless person to take on. Tyler doesn’t get it, that he must continue to buckdance until the people he hates let him stop. Even then, he’s gonna have to keep mugging but his heart won’t be in it. He’ll have a couple stupid cannibal children of his own by then, and this is his schtick, the story he’s sold. Maybe he’ll fail his “fam” and they’ll eat his face off like that guy in Miami the other day? There is always hope, not that hope is something I’d sell to you. Not after reading the posts of this turd brigade in the thread.

      May 31, 2012 at 1:17 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • john
      john

      Next thing people will attack is rappers that say ‘bitch’ to much then there will be articles about how that rapper must hate female dogs because he said bitch 43 times in an album

      Jun 2, 2012 at 1:55 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Blah, bla..huh?
      Blah, bla..huh?

      @john: Is that John as in “toilet”? As in what Tyler is using your head for? See what I did there, me Schmawt!

      Jun 2, 2012 at 4:30 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

    Add your Comment

    Queerty now requires you to log in to comment

    Please log in to add your comment.

    Need an account? Register It's free and easy.

  • POPULAR ON QUEERTY

    FOLLOW US
     



    GET QUEERTY'S DAILY NEWSLETTER


    FROM AROUND THE WEB

    Copyright 2014 Queerty, Inc.
    Follow Queerty at Queerty.com, twitter.com/queerty and facebook.com/queerty.