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Were the College Wrestling Porn Stars Stupid? Or Just Naive?

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How did U. of Nebraska college wrestlers Paul Donahoe and Kenny Jordan get wrapped up in this amateur porn scandal? By succumbing to Internet predators! Only kidding, sort of. But the folks booking models for Fratmen.TV waved around one thing most college kids can’t turn down: cash.

As we gear up for ESPN’s story on the duo (airing Sunday), we’re torn between feeling like the guys should’ve known better (you jerk off on the Internet and don’t expect anyone to find out?) and feeling genuinely sorry for their situation (what college kid hasn’t done something he regrets?).

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On:           Jun 12, 2009
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  • 27 Comments
    • galefan2004
      galefan2004

      I’m not torn between feeling they should have known better and feeling sorry for them. I’m genuinely pissed off. I’m tired of living in a nation where we have the gall to think that what people do in their personal lives has any affect what-so-ever on what they do in their professional lives. The fact that the boys jerked it on the net has NOTHING to do with their ability to wrestle. Therefore, they shouldn’t have been removed for jerking off. We need to stop stigmatizing porn stars and other “undesirables” because of their personal decisions. I don’t care who you are, who you screw, what your views are, and who video tapes you screwing that person as long as when you show up to work you don’t bring it with you and you do your job better than the person that could be replacing you. The fact that we allow people’s personal lives to influence our decisions on rather they can do their job or not helps to destroy our economy. If we aren’t taking the best person for the job because he jerks on film, but instead are taking someone extremely less qualified because he is a saint then we are not making the best decisions for our company.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 1:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • HayYall
      HayYall

      The answer is C) Hot.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 1:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Prof. O. G. Whataschnozell
      Prof. O. G. Whataschnozell

      They were cute, they needed money and figured who else but gay men would watch them. They were actually smart.

      Unfortunatley someone wanted a freebie or the feeling wasn’t mutual and they were rejected so to get even they put their business in the street.

      It happens a lot to ex-porn stars who think they have left the business but find out later they have been immortalized. Anyone out there remember David Watson, the very young and cute star of the first Black Workout video. He used to get followed home, down the freeway, you name it. He lost several jobs thanks to people he rejected who then sent copies of that video to everyone he worked with.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 1:49 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • MarkOfAntares
      MarkOfAntares

      I thoughts of this becoming a backlash at the gay community.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 2:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • dlpca
      dlpca

      PERSONAL LIVES ARE SEPARATE FROM PROFESSIONAL LIVES. DO NOT ALLOW THE INFESTED INFLUENCE OF THE PATRIOT ACT TO RUIN ALL BETTER REASONING ABOUT WHAT IS OR IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. GAY MEN ALLOVER THIS COUNTRY ARE REPEATEDLY TARGETED, WITH IMPLICATION THAT THEIR SEX LIVES ARE ILLEGAL AND THEREFORE INFRINGE UPON THEIR PROFESSION. THIS IS A LIE. THIS IS SABOTAGE AND IF WE DO NOT STAND UP WE WILL LOSE. THE COUNTRY WILL LOSE.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 2:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • osocubano
      osocubano

      MMMMMMMMM…

      Jun 12, 2009 at 2:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ajax
      ajax

      Personal and professional lives are not separate. We are single human entities. Carrie Prejean is, as an individual, a stupid, rude jerk. Her job was to be an “ambassador” of sorts. Stupid, rude jerks don’t make good ambassadors. She was fired. Her personal failures negatively impacted her ability to perform to contract standards.

      If these young men did something that is against the school’s code of conduct, they should bear the consequences of their behavior.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 3:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • thatguyfromboston
      thatguyfromboston

      The one on the left looks naive.
      The one on the right looks stupid.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 3:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Chad
      Chad

      @dlpca: I AM COMPRISED OF A SERIES OF ONES AND ZEROES.

      @thatguyfromboston: The one on the left is also the more, erm, “impressive.” Thank you, Fleshbot.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 3:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • galefan2004
      galefan2004

      @Ajax: Prejean is a perfect example. If you want to claim that her views on gay marriage are part of her personal life than that should not get her fired. That isn’t the reason she was fired. She was fired because she couldn’t bother to show up for appearances which is part of her professional life. As long as you show up and do the job better than everyone else it doesn’t matter what you do when you aren’t at the job. The school’s code of conduct needs changed. Employers/schools shouldn’t be allowed to make rules that govern the lives of their employees/students as that is what the government is for.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 4:08 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bitch, please!
      Bitch, please!

      I am sorry, but much as we would want a utopina society, it will never be as such. So my question then is , “Whatever happened to working in the library or the local fast-food joint, like so many of us worked through in college?” It was a given, “poor college students.” These kids grew up in the internet-era, don’t tell me that they didn’t know that it would have been exposed eventually. What were they smoking when they did those tapes? Or maybe they did those tapes so they could be “smoking”. Sorry, no sympathy here. If they were looking to build a career, this was certainly not the route they should have taken. Sometimes life’s lessons are just that tough and inrefutable!

      Jun 12, 2009 at 4:19 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • galefan2004
      galefan2004

      @Bitch, please!: What happened to making minimum wage and trying to support yourself on it and going to school and being involved in sports at the same time is basically what you are asking. The fact is, they made more money jerking it once on camera than they would in a month of minimum wage work. Also, this is like saying that the mother who works at the strip joint to support her kids is a bad parent. I thought we had land mark cases to prevent that kind of bigotry. Actually, I believe because this is a state institution and the kids were just exercising their freedom of speech (jerking it on camera is freedom of speech as far as I’m concerned) that they should file a civil case against the school on this violation.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 4:48 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • TANK
      TANK

      Also, this is like saying that the mother who works at the strip joint to support her kids is a bad parent.

      Yeah, pretty much. And let’s be honest…if you’re a mommy working at a strip club, you done fucked up bigtime somewhere along your way…and that kid’s gonna be all fucked up, too….FUCK YOU, MOM! FUCK YOU!

      Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyway, dumb dee dumb dumb dumb. ANd sure, naive…

      Jun 12, 2009 at 4:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • galefan2004
      galefan2004

      @Tank: That is complete and utter bull. For starters, there are perfectly good mothers that take their clothes off. Hell, my cousin was a mother of 5 and she stripped for extra money. All her kids turned out better than normal. I think its completely hypocritical to say that just because the mother made some mistakes that it would scar the children. Its kind of close minded and bigoted. I really hope you have never been (and never will be) in a spot where you really had to do all that it takes to survive, but its amazing how quickly you can rewrite your moral codes when it comes down to where you or your child will get their next meal from. I think that the United States just overly stigmatizes sexuality. Sexuality is not a big deal. We tend to make it larger than it is. These boys are wrestlers, so they deal in violence in an every day job, but that is alright because that is just violence. However, let them jerk it on camera and we should all call for their heads.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 5:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • TANK
      TANK

      @galefan2004:

      mah mah mah blah blah blah–you fucked up, and your kids will be fucked up, too.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 5:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Protection
      Protection

      Don’t ever change, tank. Galefan, are you gay?

      Jun 12, 2009 at 5:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jack
      Jack

      Paul Donahoe! Call me!

      Jun 12, 2009 at 5:23 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bitch, please!
      Bitch, please!

      @ galefan2004: If you are promoting getting money by being “easy” they sure did that! As college athletes they most likely had scolarships, free housing, and free meals. That, with whatever they got through financial aid, and an income from a part-time job would have been enough, while living as a a “college student”. But many students want to live large and party every weekend and end up living outside their means. As I said in my post earlier, while in school it is okay to be a “poor college student.”

      Jun 12, 2009 at 6:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • galefan2004
      galefan2004

      @Tank: You are incorrect to think that someone fucking up once in their life means that even they will be fucked up the rest of their life not to mention their children will be fucked up. Think what you want. I could care less. I’m not going to be able to change your mind and you won’t change mine.

      @Protection: No, I just like to be fucked by dudes although I am one.

      @Bitch,Please: Believe it or not I actually agree with you. I’m not promoting making money by being easy. I’m promoting freedom to express yourself. Making money is just a side thought. I agree that there is a huge difference between the mother that strips to put food on the table and the college kid that jerks it on tape to put drugs in his system that weekend. However, we don’t really know very much about these kids at all. As likely as it is that they were jerking for drugs it is just as likely that they were jerking to help support their families and fulfill obligations at home. We just don’t know.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 6:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • TANK
      TANK

      I could care less….

      Well obviously.

      Jun 12, 2009 at 6:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • alan brickman
      alan brickman

      THEY ARE BOTH SWEET AND HOT LETS NOT PUNISH THEM FOR THAT…

      Jun 12, 2009 at 8:22 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • alan brickman
      alan brickman

      Tank sounds fat and jealous!! They are hot!! and will be forgiven…

      Jun 13, 2009 at 10:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • alan brickman
      alan brickman

      unlike tank….

      Jun 13, 2009 at 10:32 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • TANK
      TANK

      LOL! Nah, but still…fuck you, “alan brickman”. Alan sounds old and stupid. It’s an old’s name, anyway.

      Jun 13, 2009 at 2:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Lex
      Lex

      They’re both complete idiots, who cares?

      I really can’t tell them apart but one of them is also a full time gay porn ‘actor’ now and from what I hear takes it up the ass on the regular. So much for the whole “gay for pay” theory.

      Jun 14, 2009 at 1:30 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dorian
      Dorian

      You’d have to be pretty daft to post images of yourself in the internet and not think you’re going to get caught.

      Jun 15, 2009 at 9:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • bobito
      bobito

      They’ll survive this – it’s not like their lives were ruined & they didn’t do anything illegal, so big deal. I remember winning an amateur strip contest when I was about their age (pre-internet, yeah, I’m that old) – that was when I learned to NEVER give your real name if you don’t have an unlisted number. I was in school on academic scholarships and made the dean’s list every semester, so I wouldn’t say I was ‘dumb’… but I wasn’t very savvy.

      I think those boys are starting to learn just how accessible the internet is for everybody, even Grandma & Grandpa. They will laugh about this some day, and who knows? Maybe their grandkids will still be laughing at ancient clips of grandpa wanking for the camera – man, am I relieved that I wasn’t as young as them when this new technology came around!

      Jun 15, 2009 at 11:26 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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