When terrible people say they don’t want gay marriage legalized because then anal sex will find its way into the classroom, they’re usually referring to elementary or high schools. But anal sex made its way into one classroom this week, when a handful of gay porn stars descended upon the University of Southern California to talk about their biz.
Tuition dollars at work people!
Among the boldface names: Randy Blue (the proprietor of RandyBlue.com) and Reese Rideout, the gay-for-play star built like a house and who overshadows the careers of actual gay porn stars, and Nicco Sky and Wolf Hudson. Who are all, like, Yeah, this is a pretty good gig! Daily Trojan:
Hudson, who identifies as straight and has been acting in gay porn for about three years, said despite what viewers might assume, the performance itself is “totally non-sexual … It’s always very mechanical.” As an actor who has worked in both gay and straight porn, Rideout noted that, while his personal relationships are straight, he prefers working in gay porn because the directors and producers are more respectful of the men. “It’s actually a more comfortable setting. You’re treated more like an actor and less like a prop,” he said.
All the actors agreed that the transition from straight to gay porn acting is not as strange as it seems. They were also adamant in clarifying that, while many actors on that side of the industry are straight, nothing is forced upon them. Blue, who owns his own gay porn production company, said it is up to the actors to decide whether or not to be in his films.
“If it’s not your thing, it doesn’t make good porn,” he said. “There are a lot of desperate people out there who will do literally anything for quick money. That’s not what we do here … Maybe one out of 100 guys backs out after we hire them. Most people want to do what they’re doing.”
Kyser, who works predominately with a style called reality porn also noted that “actors usually come with a list of dos and don’ts.”
Not that their riders are as long as, say, Mariah Carey’s, but you’ll often find kissing, receiving, and rimming are on the don’t list. Well, at least in the beginning of their careers.
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EdWoody
Didn’t the third guy have anything to say?
And how about bringing in an actual GAY porn star, as opposed to a gay-for-pay porn star, to talk about gay porn?
Dave
Yay Wolf Hudson!!
jason
When are we going to get away from this porn-influenced notion that men are straight or gay? Most men are NOT straight or gay, they are bisexual. I’m talking orientation here.
This is one reason why I don’t like porn. It polarizes male sexuality into gay or straight. The marketing of porn is based on this polarization notion. Such a polarization distorts male sexuality and contributes to the difficulties that many men have in accepting their same-sex component.
Note how female sexuality in porn is essentially marketed as bisexual. All the “straight” porn movies contain females who are engaging in homosexual activity with other females.
The difference between how male sexuality is marketed and how female sexuality is marketed is proof positive of how horrible this porn industry is.
scott ny'er
well of course Reese would say it’s mechanical and non-sexual. Sadly, that’s what several viewers seem to think of those films. I’ve seen some Randyblue and the guys are hot but there always seems to have something lacking. Hmmm. Maybe the non-sexual and mechanical nature of it might have something to do with it.
Nicco Sky. Very effin’ hot. In clothes and without.
Same Crap
Lulz@USC students. Paying $40K a year for this? Haha, suckers.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@EdWoody:
And how about bringing in an actual GAY porn star, as opposed to a gay-for-pay porn star, to talk about gay porn?
Tell me about it!
That’s like taking BBQ’ing lessons from a vegan.
I don’t know who any of those douchebags are, but if they are representative of what gay porn is, I’m glad I never got into watching it.
Phillip
@jason:
Jason,
What are you talking about? Women in straight porn who perform lesbian sex can be sexual orientation. The lesbian sex in straight porn is there mainly for male fantasies. Just as men who perform in gay porn can be straight, gay, or bi.
They’re just acting.
As for real life, there’s the Kinsey scale. Some are straight, bi, gay or asexual.
I’ve never read anywhere that the majority of men are bi. Most scientific studies show women have more fluidity of sexual orientation than men.
timmmeeeyyy
Since this was part of “bisexuality awareness week,” why not have bisexual porn actors? The real tragedy here is that bisexuality is often misunderstood, and bisexuals are discriminated against by both gays and straights. This discussion does nothing to further the understanding or advance the dialog about bisexuality. None of the participants even self-identify as bisexual. One of the common misconceptions about bisexuals is that they are hypersexual and will have sex with just about anyone with a pulse. To hold a panel discussion with straight porn actors who have homosex does nothing to create “bisexuality awareness” only helps to fuel this myth. A major diversity awareness fail for USC.
JRD
Phillip, yes.
Jason, I think you have that backwards. I don’t want a woman in my gay porn. Men want two women in straight porn. The marketing is run accordingly. The marketing DOES NOT control the market.
jason
JRD,
The marketing is controlled by the male-centricity of the voyeur. It’s a distortion for two reasons: it’s a voyeurism paradigm and it’s a male-centric paradigm.
Also, there is no free market when it comes to porn. It’s not like general release Hollywood movies where they have test screenings attended by both genders.
Porn is a voyeurims paradigm. The reason I’m against it is because porn allows voyeurism to control experience. The sexual experience, as portrayed on screen, is controlled by the voyeur.
It’s third party pandering. Sex was never meant to be like this.
Now do you see my point??
Ian
@timmmeeeyyy: To both you & Jason what I am aware of in terms of bisexuality is that it really doesn’t exist in the male population. Women, sure, they can be more fluid in their desires. But men are simply more hardwired.
I’ve said it here in Queerty before; a man who labels as “bi” simply wants to have the heterosexual status of relationships with women, but then is also wanting “down-low” sex with men to feed their true orientations which is G-A-Y. I’ve never experienced or heard of a ‘bisexual’ man who has relationships with men but has sneaky sex with women `cause the animal simply doesn’t exist.
AS to porn actors who identify as bisexual they are either self-delusional/in denial or are such narcissists that as long as they have SOMEONE, whether that be female or male, worshipping their bodies then they are happy.
I know what I said was harsh, but it’s also true. Now let the flaming towards me commence as heaven forbid there be any differing opinions on this Kinsey subject.
Michael
@Phillip:
Actually men are 2 to 3 times more likely to have same-sex encounters than women (per Kinsey and other studies).
Michael
@Ian:
Sorry, but bisexuality does exist in the male population. Most men might ID themselves as straight, due to the norms placed on us by society, but the man who professes to be so straight is also the one who can’t figure out why he finds lesbian porn kinda boring. I find the guy who is most likely to cruise you in a store these days is one who’s girlfriend is looking the other way.
Ian
@Michael: Yeah I experienced the straight guy flirting when I was younger too. But going back to what I was saying before, in their cases they ARE str8 but are simply enjoying the attention. I had str8 guys who flirted but if I tried to make a further advance (back before I learned WHY they were flirting) and make the situation more “real” they’d back off.
Rob Moore
@scott ny’er: You probably need to read it, again. It was Wolf Hudson who referred to it as mechanical. I don’t think he appears on Randy Blue. I don’t think I ever heard of him, but even I can’t watch all the gay porn available on the web.
When I am not looking for jobs or going to interviews or cleaning the house, or reorganizing closets and cupboards, I watch porn, movies, read, or micromanage my finances in these unfortunate economic times. I have watched a fair amount of porn, and Randy Blue’s site seems to have a pretty natural feel to it. The guys seem to be engaged, and their conversations are unscripted and often rather funny before they get down to the business of sex.
Soakman
Women have a more fluid sexual attraction than men do. Fact.
Porn is a business as well as a means of “entertainment,” by the logic of supply and demand, of COURSE it’s going to be male-centric.
Additionally, if you’re bi, the LAST thing you should be complaining about is lack of equal representation in the porn industry.
jason
Soakman,
There is no evidence that women are more fluid than men in their sexual orientation.
There is, however, evidence that women will use their sexuality as a marketing ploy, often pretending to be bi because there’s a buck in it. This isn’t genuine bisexuality, it’s prostitution. Learn the difference.
These so-called bi chicks are often bi for the purpose of pleasing a third party male. They are used by sleazy straight guys to recruit other women for threesomes.
Please don’t insult the discussion of bisexuality by incorporating these women into the bisexuality pardigm.
jason
Ian,
The reason some bisexual man are often seen with men rather than women is because men are easier to pick up. Orientation-wise, the bi guy might be more disposed towards women but he will find it easier to pick up men due to the fact that men are more promiscuous and sexually available than women.
This doesn’t mean the bi guy is really gay. It simply means that it’s easier to pick up men than women.
You should study gender differences to get a better picture.
nikko
How offensive is it that even porn stars can’t admit they’re Bi or gay??!!
Chirssypoo
They aren’t straight.
Same Crap
@Chirssypoo: That goes without saying.
Lady Ga-Gasp
This site (and its commenters) can be more small-minded, parochial and provincial than anything Focus on the Family could ever dream up. Just sayin’
G
@Chirssypoo: They’re not straight because they have sex with guys? So every straight person who’s ever experimented in their life is automatically gay? Way to be progressive. If you just have sex with men (FOR FINANCIAL REIMBURSEMENT) but you have no desire to date, hold hands with, or fall in love with men, you’re NOT gay. Sexual orientation is about more than just who you have sex with, it’s also about who you want to experience romantic situations with.
Johnny
No kidding Wolf Hudson’s porn is “totally non-sexual and very mechanical”. How anyone keeps their dick hard long enough to cum watching that ugly gap-toothed motherfucker is beyond me.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, Nicco Sky is what every gay porn star SHOULD be: a fucking hot, very sexy, gay man who clearly LOVES having sex with other men and whose GREAT in bed. Nicco is easily the hottest gay porn star since Francois Zagat and its because not only does he have the body, but he actually enjoys what he’s doing.
Chirssypoo
“They’re not straight because they have sex with guys?”
No they aren’t straight because they are either bisexual or gay
“So every straight person who’s ever experimented in their life is automatically gay”
Umm, I think on the 25th time, its no longer experiementing.
“If you just have sex with men (FOR FINANCIAL REIMBURSEMENT) but you have no desire to date, hold hands with, or fall in love with men, you’re NOT gay.”
News flash– the gay guys in gay porn do it for money too. Your definition of sexuality needs work. There are plenty of bi-guys who are emotionally and sexually attracted to women, but every once in a while mess around with guys. They just have the balls to admit they are bisexual.
“Sexual orientation is about more than just who you have sex with, it’s also about who you want to experience romantic situations with.”
Again, your definition. The way this fakers talk, anyone can take $1,000 – $1,500 (yeah, why don’t G4P pornstars alway lie about their pay?) and go to any guy anywhere and they will put out (on film no less). I’ve met Reese — he’s a big ol queen just overcompesating to justify himself. How many tv shows has he been on spouting this BS? What was the general audience reaction? There’s a reason why his GF is at every appearence he makes — she knows without her chaperoning, Reese would be fucking everything in sight.
Alexandre
I dont know why it shocks me so much that they will have sex and get and give a blow job but wont kiss?
But then again, I am always surprised by how many “straight” men I meet, and will do all these things (not for pay obviously}. and still won’t kiss. Its a shame because kissing is my favorite thing.
What is about kissing that freaks them out so much more than sucking dick?!?!?!
jason
I never cease to be amazed by how dumb some members of the gay community are in relation to the understanding of sex. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Here’s a few points to clear things up for the ninnies:
a) sexual orientation = what you feel and fantasize; it more or less comes automatically and cannot be controlled by choice.
b) sexual behavior = what you physically do with your feelings and fantasies; unlike sexual orientation, it can be “controlled” by choice based on factors such as upbringing, religious influence, peer pressure, shame, personal morals etc etc.
c) porn = a voyeurism paradigm; it’s based on voyeurism and is more about the satisfaction of the third party – ie voyeur – than the participants. Porn exists because of the voyeur. Without the voyeur, there wouldn’t be porn.
Anthony in Nashville
What kind of school has an awareness campaign called Five Days Of Going Both Ways?
For more than $40,000 in tuition, I would expect better than this.
If it’s supposed to celebrate bisexuality, why are they inviting men who insist they are straight?
benlayvey
@jason: Quite right!
Wheaton
Maybe not, but I think it needs to be clarified that this was not in a USC class (which I would find…troubling), but according to USC’s Daily Trojan website, a GLBT Student Assembly panel discussion called “Gay For Pay” that was part of Five Days of Going Both Ways bisexuality-awareness week, and it was moderated by a professor.
Which, honestly, given the ass clowns they brought in, is still pretty appalling.
@ Johnny: “Wolf Hudson’s porn is ‘totally non-sexual and very mechanical.’ How anyone keeps their dick hard long enough to cum watching that ugly gap-toothed motherfucker is beyond me.”
Wolf Hudson’s the one who claimed he was straight and that he had never, not one time, enjoyed having sex with a man (his physiological responses belie that), then when people called him a liar, hypocrite and user, spent the past year crying that he “doesn’t discuss my sexuality.” I see he’s comfortable discussing it again.
No, once you get fucked on film repeatedly (and have a physical reaction that shows you’re, um, enjoying it), it’s no longer “experimentation.”
TheProfessor
Wow, I’m speechless: this is what American education has come down to? UC raised tution last year, and for what, so students could partake with a bunch of “straight” men who are delusional in not accepting their true sexuality? Who still insist on being hetero when clearly they’re not? What an embarrassment for the school, for the field of sexual studies, and for gay people everywhere.
joedee1969
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nikko
Exactly, THEPROFESSOR!
Chirssypoo
Here is what I don’t get about the program at USC — if the week is about bisexuality, why invite a group of “straight” guys who have gay sex on film? What does that have to do with healthy attitudes toward bisexuality?
I also totally forgot to mention that Reese works for Randy Blue on stage. Of course, he’s going to say whatever meme Randy Blue wants him to say since Randy writes the checks.
How many of these supposedly G4P pornstars have come out of the closet? Mason Wyler was marketed as straight by Corbin Fisher. Leo Giamani was marketed as straight by Randy Blue, when in real life he’s bisexual. This list could go on and on.
Same Crap
@TheProfessor: Er, don’t tar the UC system with this. This clearly took place at USC.
PopSnap
I honestly don’t understand what my fellow gays find so hott about “gay for pay” porn. It’s almost like its an amazing thing- you always see watch these STRAAAAIIIIGGGHHHTTTTT !!!!! (bolded and underlined several times) guys do stuff!
I find it much hotter to see actual gay guys doing gay things with eachother. It’s more passionate and real. I mean, yeah g4p porn can be hot but its incredibly shallow and depressing.
scott ny'er
@Rob Moore: i stand corrected. I still think some of the randyblue movies I’ve seen are kind of meh. but so are a lot of the gay porn. I like latter days and motion picture type sex scenes.
scott ny'er
@Alexandre: Didn’t you see Pretty Women?
jason
Porn stars are not good examples of human sexuality in action. They are essentially prostitutes. They’re in the business because they are paid for it.
When are we going to realize that porn isn’t sex? Porn is about being paid, sex is free. Porn is about the voyeur, sex is about the participants.
Again, do not confuse porn with sex.
MuscleBoy
is that fat pig in the corner Randy Blue?
TheProfessor
@Same Crap: Sorry, you’re right. Got blinded by my distress haha… There goes USC…
Ian
@MuscleBoy: You may call a man in that picture a “pig” but you are most ASSUREDLY an ASS.
Alexandre
@MuscleBoy: F you, d bag
Alexandre
@Ian: I couldn’t agree with you more
bobo
***yawwwwwwwn. i would have slept through this class. gay/bi/queer men are smarter and better than this.
MuscleBoy
@Ian: Get outta my face losers…
Alexandre
@MuscleBoy: woah! chill with the roid rage!
Derek
Guys Jason here is the super creepy HIV/AIDS denialist that moves from one blog to another spouting some of the most uniformed and illogical arguments ever.
But strangely most of his theories revolve around porn, AIDS, back rooms, adult store booths, poppers and anonymous sex. One tends to see a pattern and more that a bit of preoccupation….
Jason take your paradigms and stick em up your crusty brown eye. You are a freak and worse, a stupid freak.
El Brucio
This seems to be some kind of bisexuality diversity week event and not actual courses students are required to take. I’m not sure how educational this particular event was, but I approve of the general idea.
Sadly you rarely see bisexual actors being marketed as such in gay porn due to biphobia. I think it’s easier to accept gay-for-pay because it makes the porn star a sexual commodity instead of a potential romantic interest.
I think a lot of the biphobia is created by people who have broken up with a bi person and are looking for an easy excuse.
Straight guy dumped by woman. That bitch! Understands that not every woman is a bitch.
Gay guy dumped by gay guy. That bastard! Understands that not every gay guy is a bastard.
Gay guy dumped by bi guy. That bastard! It’s because he’s bisexual, isn’t it! I knew they couldn’t be trusted! Becomes bitter for life.
benlayvey
@PopSnap: “I find it much hotter to see actual gay guys doing gay things with eachother. It’s more passionate and real. I mean, yeah g4p porn can be hot but its incredibly shallow and depressing.”
Go to Oprah! LOL!
Rob Moore
I understand this is not an actual class but a panel discussion presented by GLBT student group. My question is why do some think this is not an appropriate for a class? Human sexuality is complex and is key to understanding how individuals, groups, and even nations behave.
So what if some of these actors say they are straight but have gay sex for pay. I do not see why that is so threatening to some of the commentators on this topic. I am openly gay, but I am openly married to a woman. We have been married for 34 years, and I came out 25 years ago. The reasons we stayed married boil down to mutual affection, similar goals, a lot of prior history, and raising out two children to a happy adulthood. So what does that say about me. Am I a traitor to the cause because of my choices? It is pretty common to hear other gay people question my homosexuality. It matters not at all. I know what my fantasies are and where my eyes wander.
Some these guys are straight because they know what they fantasize about and where their eyes are drawn. Question all you want, but some of the comments are more about insecurities and rigid worldviews than reality.
Chirssypoo
Rob, your issues and the issues of these gay porn stars are totally different.
Rob Moore
@Chirssypoo: You need to explain what you mean and on what you basis you made your statement.