We’ve tended to buy into that definition because it’s the best way for homophones to demonize our community. Much the same way having sex with a woman turns my stomach, the idea that being gay is all about the act of sex is constructed to disgust people.

I put it to you like this. Being gay isn’t about who you have sex with, being gay is about who you’re attracted to, there is an element of desire and love. Who you’re attracted to is very different from defining it as who you have sex with.

I would kiss a man and know I was gay with him, neither of us would have to be undressed.

I have to also take issue with Wisconsin Gay who seems to suggest we’ve bought this association on ourselves.

I don’t know if you’ve flicked through too many sports magazines lately but they’re generally filled with naked or near naked women. So then are all men who play sports sex obsessed with women? Well maybe. You see my point though.

I came on this site to chat, not to look at images, and yet the images are there. Am I defined by them because I’m here?

Even though the adults at this elementary school have decided to take a step in the wrong direction, the kids sure haven’t.

p.s. If Prop H(8) isn’t overturned, we should riot like it’s Stonewall or White Night. Seriously, it’s time to stop being civilized. It’s time to stop being Martin Luther King, and now it’s time to go Malcolm X on these assholes.

Yep yep.

Just like being a Christian has nothing to do with Jesus!

Say what?

Actually, they both have something to do with sex.

It simply states desire or attraction to ones own sex or ones opposite sex, respectively.

What does that desire amount to? It’s intentional state, to use a word you’ve never heard nor understand before. And intentional states represent things, or are about things (aboutness of thought), and have satisfaction conditions. And the satisfaction conditions of homosexual sexual desires are homosexual sexual acts.

By this logic, a presentation could not be done on anyone because of the implied nature of their orientation.

No…

Sexual desire is part of being human but I have to disagree with you when you make such a claim. All people (well nearly all) have sexual desires, but that doesn’t make a report on Jefferson a report on sexuality (unless perhaps you’re report is focusing on his infidelities).

But harvey milk was a gay rights activist, and gay rights do involve gay sex if they involve the orientation at all…because the orientation involves gay sex, just like sexual orientation in general involves sexual activity on the level of satisfaction conditions.

You’ve allowed yourself to be sucked into the rhetoric of the far right.

The rhetoric of the far right is “hate the sin, love the sinner,” driving a wedge between the activity and the person. I say that the orientation is a part of the person, and no such wedge can actually be inserted without splitting the baby, as it were.

By this logic, a presentation could not be done on anyone because of the implied nature of their orientation.

Except that Harvey Milk was a gay rights activist. It would be a bit disingenuous to omit that fact. I’m not saying it would be equivalent to sex ed, but on some level, sexuality is going to be part of the discussion. Age appropriate, of course.

The sexual acts are the satisfaction conditions of homosexual sexual desires. To say that homosexual sexual desires (which have satisfaction conditions whether satisfied or not) are not a part of homosexuality is a bit ridiculous, and should be ignored.

So, being gay does have something to do with sex, and gay civil rights is about being able to marry the person you love and not being fired for who you’re sexually attracted to, etc.

Now that can be true independently of this school principal’s choice being all wrong, and completely bigoted.

I didn’t say that. But we are paralleling Pride Parades (arguably, our most outward and powerful public statement) wet t-shirt contests and Mardi Gras, things that make most sensible people cringe with their outright objectification of the body and over-sexualization.

+1

This site, and most gay blogs, continually post eye candy where we make sexual comments like salivating dogs.

Pride parades have people flaunting sex, not sexuality.

Do straight people get to flaunt their sexuality and their sex? Yeah, they do. Should we stoop to that level on an equality principle only to hurt our movement for equality?

Is that what our schools (and our tax dollars) should be used for, I ask?

What’s sad is that San Diego has an AMAZING LGBT community. One of the largest & most popular pride celebrations on the West Coast & is STILL the only county to have had two Gay mayors serving at the same time (Mayor of Chula Vista & the interm mayor of San Diego) When Prop 8 passed we had 20,000 people march to protest it.

but every goos thing shines a little less bright every time crap like this rears it’s uply head……