Brigham Young University’s student newspaper The Daily Universe yesterday published a letter from student Cary Crall, arguing the case for Prop 8 is “indefensible.” The letter had been submitted over the summer, but was rejected. This time around, after some edits, it ran — but was quickly pulled from the paper’s website. In other BYU-related legal news …
justiceontherocks
Independent thinking by university students is bad for business in Utah. The church is still in denial about what happens on missions, when two guys spend all their time together for 18 months.
Vman455
It’s not like the Daily Universe doesn’t have a history of censorship. A decade ago, they had a hilarious Dave Barry-style humorist who resigned after having columns yanked by the editorial board (Snide Remarks, if anyone else remembers it).
OkieBoy
@justiceontherocks: It’s actually 2 years for guys and 18 months for girls.
And it’s refreshing to hear Mormons speaking up in this way! Hopefully it’ll catch on…
B
No. 3 · OkieBoy wrote, “And it’s refreshing to hear Mormons speaking up in this way!” … one quibble with what he said – he was too polite.
The “yes on eight” side lied shamelessly. It wasn’t simply being mistaken as they made the same statemetns after the facts were pointed out. For example, in the 2008 California Supreme Court ruling allowing same-sex marriages, the decision explicitly stated that religious bodies would not be forced to perform marriage ceremonies that violated their beliefs, with citations justifying that statement. The “Yes on Eight” side simply ignored what the California Supreme Court had said and put out the same propaganda, the truth be damned.
BTW, check out http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/08/MNE81FATL8.DTL&tsp=1 – it seems the California Supreme Court has just refused to require the governor or attorney general to defend Proposition Eight on appeal (a lower court had refused as well a bit earlier). That’s one more nail in the coffin: the “yes on eight” side will have to prove it has standing to appeal even though the actual defendant has refused to appeal. It is most likely their last chance on that argument: it is not a federal issue as to whether a state’s governor or attorney general is required to defend the state’s laws in court (in California, normally the AG would defend the law but not if the AG believes the law is in fact unconstitutional as the AG also has an obligation to defend the constitution).
Jeff K.
I take solace in the fact that the Mormons spent all that money just to delay gay marriage for a couple of years.
B
No. 5 · Jeff K. wrote, “I take solace in the fact that the Mormons spent all that money just to delay gay marriage for a couple of years.” … except that our side outspent the Mormons and ended up having it delayed a couple of years: we outspent the Mormons simply because others were funding the Prop 8 campaign as well.
http://mormonsfor8.com/?p=154 has a breakdown (this site claims to be trying to gather information about Mormon support for Prop 8, rather than trying to support the Mormons). 40.4% came from individual Mormon donors, 29.94% came from other individual donors (there may be some unidentified Mormons in this category), and 29.66% came from non-Mormon organizations.
The Mormon church donated relatively little cash (it provided other types of support) in order to keep its tax-exempt status.