We’ve asked online comedian, voice actor and chest hair model Sam Kalidi to create a new meme each week for Queerty readers. This week he investigates the ongoing homophobia in less-evolved parts of the world. Sam looks forward to all your hate mail. You can find him on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and at your local glory hole.
Sebastian Holiday
Rhetorical question.
David Sutton
The words of Dorothy Parker come to mind, “Heterosexuality is not natural, it’s just common.”
William Holahan
Both are equally understandablle.
Masc Pride
I get the general gist, but lions are also like the most wild creatures in the animal kingdom. It’s also totally natural for them to rip each other to shreds over absolutely nothing.
Oh, wait…
RIGay
There is a lot of energy going into gene re-sequencing as a way correct hereditary issues (check out Morgan Spurlock’s “Inside Man” season 2 / episode 2 on Netflix). It’s not far off that we can correct for things like hair and eye color, body development, metabolism… and I suspect sex / sexual orientation.
It won’t be long before the Christian right suddenly embrace science; not to stop climate change or expand space exploration — they will embrace science so that they will be able to obliterate gays off the face of the Earth through DNA re-sequencing. Take out that extra chromosome and hand you a bible.
Homnophobia… will win.
Rolly Almadin
Homophobia
James Gutting
Honestly, I think religious taboos were developed by women to stop men from constantly mating with eachother
Bobby French
Unnatural means abnormal.
Homosexual is not abnormal since it is not chosen.
Homophobia is abnormal because that is a choice.
onthemark
Animals don’t have religion either!
Mark Jenkins
Homophobia is abnormal- an irrational fear of something is a phobia. Many animals, not just men and women have exhibited Homosexuality or Lesbianism and it’s certainly not chosen (I think I’ll be gay today)!-
Ronnie Faulds
Obviously homophobia cause you’re not born that way ð???
Altay Ozer
I dont know. All the straight guys that gave me a problem I wound up going down on.
RIGay
@onthemark: No, onthemark, they have dentists with hunting bows.
Jess Collins
Homosexuality has been around since before the roman empire and is animals as well. Homophobia is fear and that’s unatural
Marky
@RIGay: You’re confusing bows with guns.
KentonForshee
Everything that occurs is natural, but hat doesn’t mean someone isn’t an asshole.
KentonForshee
That not hat. Ugh…
Duke Marine
Facebook is unnatural LOL
Captain Obvious
Who cares? Homophobes will have to deal with it either way. We’re not going anywhere unnatural or not.
Kevin J Desmond
Homophobia is a choice … Homosexuality is a gift from God !!
moldisdelicious
@David Sutton:
That’s dumb. We wouldnt be here if it weren’t for heterosexuality though.
Michael Claypoole
Homophobia
pupilz.official
Ben Carson is actually gay!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi3k02IMcHY
Markajv
How much money did they spend on this poll or study?? “Homesexuality” is natural DUH. Homophobia is a “Learned” thought process. So I am saying HOMOPHOBIA!!
zooby
Um… you’re on a gay blogging website and you’re seriously asking if homophobia or homosexuality is more natural? Really? Who was the genius who posted this story…
Brian
Homosexuality is very natural for men because sexuality in men is designed for fun, not pregnancy. Men just want to have sex for fun.
In contrast, women want to have sex for pregnancy or as a means of obtaining a reward from a man. There are exceptions to the rule but these do not disprove the rule.
As for homophobia, it is also natural in certain circumstances. In the old days before penicillin, male-male sexuality and its associated promiscuity often led to a spike in STD’s. STD’s were often fatal. Society feared the fatality of STD’s and thus introduced laws to control male homosexuality in particular and male sexuality in general. There was a logic to the homophobic laws.
Today, homophobia is part of the wider gender war against men. Women find male homosexuality threatening if it exists in men who are also attracted to women. They find it threatening because such men are not totally dependent on women for their sexual happiness.
Less dependence on women for sexual happiness = a threat to women and their desire to control and prevail over men.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
@Brian: how sexist. Good lord.
Giancarlo85
@Brian: Your mental power is so low. It’s always the same recycled nonsense. I understand that your mom was horrible to you. Why do you have to take it out on all women?
Homophobia are being peddled by heterosexual men. Not by heterosexual women. In fact the only reason we won court cases before the Supreme Court was because of three heterosexual women Court Justices. The only reason we won same sex marriage was in three states by ballot was because of single heterosexual women.
Again showing how bogus and ridiculous your argument is.
Cobalt Blue
@Kevin J Desmond: ” Homosexuality is a gift from God ” …Really? ( Less, please. )
scotshot
@Marky: Actually the dentist did use a bow and arrow initially, and after he suffered for a day finished him off with a rifle.
scotshot
@moldisdelicious: That went directly over your head. Whoosh!
dwes09
@Brian: Good lord, what an incredible imgination you have.
Modern research into female sexuality is showing that the assumptions of the ’40s and 50’s (and that is all they were, there was precious little empirical support for what are essentially myths about women) are incorrect and female sexuality is much more similar to male.
As for laws against homosexuality being to control STD’s, they date from earlier than the widespread acceptance of the germ theory of disease. They originate from biblical interdictions, whihc is why they are called SODOMY laws. The rest of your stuff about women promoting homophobia to control men is so ridiculous it cannot even be critiqued except to say, seek professional help!
Alan Rowe
Neither is more unnatural. They are equal. Its just our views on these two. Homosexuality is someones way, whereas homophobia is a choice. But having a phobia is natural. To sat otherwise would be like saying nobody should ever be afraid. Many people dont like gay/lesbians etc, but its their choice. We all have an opinion. Both are natural no matter how you look at it
gaym50ish
You all do realize, don’t you, that the above was a rhetorical question? It wasn’t meant to start a serious debate about which of the two is “unnatural.” It is a response to the homophobes who say that homosexuality is not natural. We know it occurs in nearly every species of mammal that has been studied — and that no other mammal except humans heaps abuse on the gay members of their species.
Brian
@dwes09: Good heavens, you really are limited in your thinking. To say that female sexuality is similar to male is laughable, absolutely laughable. Here’s what Mother Nature has decided:
1. a man can keep producing sperm until very old age, a woman stops producing eggs around 50 years of age.
2. a man releases millions upon millions of sperm in one ejaculation, a woman produces only one egg in a whole month.
3. one man can get many women pregnant, one woman can get pregnant to only one man.
4. a man’s orgasm is of such power, it releases sperm from the inside of his body to the outside of his body; a woman cannot release her egg to the outside of her body during her so-called orgasm.
There you have it – multiple examples which prove that men’s sexuality is nothing like women’s. Do you want more?
yajme
@Brian:
My god, the ignorance.
To points 1 and 2, they are just wrong. A woman most certainly does NOT produce eggs into her 50’s. Female mammals of any species are already BORN with all the eggs they will ever have.
As for point 3 (and really ever other point), this doesn’t have the impact on sexual desire and sexual behavior that you think it does. It’s widely accepted in anthropology that women were AT LEAST as promiscuous as men back in our hunter-gatherer days, and that male control over female sexual behavior (which is what’s really behind the differences in your stereotypes) only really started when our societies became agrarian and consequently fixed in place.
And point 4 is just beyond absurd. Women indisputably have more intense, all-encompassing organs – they are really just more difficult to facilitate. What’s particularly ridiculous is the underlying implication that if you could make a woman orgasm hard enough, it’d make her shoot the egg right out of her body! Just… No. There are obvious functional reasons that women retain their egg while men release their speed (SOMEBODY has to give it up!)… it has absolutely nothing to do with the strength of an orgasm. Wow.
I mean, calling your posts thinly-veiled misogyny would be far too generous and would imply that it is in any way “veiled” at all. This is just misogyny of the bare-naked variety. Yeesh.
Realitycheck
@RIGay:
Impossible, you have no idea how many people actually want gay kids, sound strange but true, and how many people would be against such changes,
not to mention gay couple would do the opposite.
Christians are a dying breed, what you see known western Europe (people no longer practice below the age of 60s) is now starting to happen here in the USA.
The only reason you hear about christians so much is because they are better organized yet with a shrinking base and financial resources.
It might take another 2-3 generations but all the religious nutcase you see on the news and youtube will simply die out with out any significant replacements.
Giancarlo85
@Brian: Your ignorance is astounding. Keep making attacks in women. Women are the only reason you have any rights at all as a gay person. Women are the ones that got Obama elected and reelected. Women US Supreme Court justices, such as Ginsburg and Kagan, are the key reason we won any legal battle. Chew on this! Four heterosexual men on that Court have been consistently against us.
You of course will not address the facts and will go on some stupid diatribe about sexuality which you know nothing about.
GayEGO
Gender is natural as we are born with it i.e. gender identity and gender attraction. Hurting others is unnatural so I say Homosexuality is natural and homophobia is unnatural.
onthemark
@Brian: Oh Brian, brian, brian, you always get confused whenever you address STD’s! Of course STD’s are easily transmittable via heterosexual sex. There’s nothing “gay” about them, in general. But doesn’t that fit in with your usual misogynistic point of view? Also, syphilis (for instance) was a New World thing, so people in the Middle East & Europe didn’t even know about it before Columbus. So Judaism, Christianity & Islam wouldn’t have taken syphilis into account when coming up with their crazy anti-sex schemes.
@Giancarlo85: Women also got the vote through the referendum process, mostly, which shoots down your pet theory that “civil rights should never be voted on.” When California for instance granted women the vote in 1911 it was by referendum. CA was the most populous democratic government in the world at that time to have women’s suffrage. And that was a proposition voted on by an ALL-MALE electorate! (At least we LGBTs get our minuscule share of the vote. Women couldn’t vote at all on these things.) Women back then didn’t depend on the courts to help them; the Supreme Court – then entirely Republican or Grover Cleveland Democrats – was very conservative. All the women’s suffrage battles were fought by referenda and in the all-male state legislatures.
onthemark
@RIGay: Actually, the dentist that killed Cecil the Lion had BOTH a gun and a bow. Dentists are scary!
Brian
@Giancarlo85: Are you now saying that it was women who enabled gay men to gain rights? Puh-lease.
Queen Victoria, who happened to be a woman, enacted laws that specifically banned male homosexuality but not female homosexuality.
I’m not denying that gay rights hitched a ride on the feminist horse all those years ago. However, that is very different from saying that women gave men the right to be gay. Re-think your comment and enlighten yourself.
Brian
@Giancarlo85: Some of the biggest homophobes are men who identify as homosexual.
These homosexual-identifying men oppose male homosexual desire if it isn’t confined to a small corner of the public’s conscience called “the gay scene”.
By confining it thus, these men are doing the work of women who oppose the mainstreaming of male homosexual desire in their husbands and boyfriends.
onthemark
@Brian: Amazing – your ignorance of the British system of government almost equals your ignorance about STDs!
Giancarlo85
@Brian: Absolutely it was women. The legal rights we have obtained through the Courts was because of women. Not because of heterosexual men that you always praise and kiss up towards.
You’re wrong once again. You’re the one that needs to rethink your comments.
All you can bring up is Queen Victoria. Are you really this stupid and ignorant in person?
@Brian: Blah blah blah blah… blabber… blabber… blabber. You don’t know anything about history either!
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: Doesn’t “shoot down” anything. Interracial marriage was legalized through the Courts, Segregation was stricken because of legislative action and same sex marriage was legalized mainly through court decision (with some small exceptions of voting). No, I don’t think civil rights should be voted on.
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: And what does that have to do with my post? Absolutely NOTHING.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: Okay, you “don’t think civil rights should be voted on,” you don’t like CA’s proposition system. So what are you doing about it in real life? Nothing!
Several months ago I told you the only ways to amend or get rid of the proposition system – I looked it up in the CA state constitution – but no doubt you’ve forgotten and you’re too lazy even to look that up.
You idea of “political activism” is to type a lot on Queerty. I bet you don’t even have a comment account at the L.A. Times?
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: So you’re fine with civil rights being voted on and the courts being totally dismantled?
Yeah okay… you’ve got a lot wrong with your argument. Do you realize countless California propositions have been tossed out by Courts? Oh… one comes up to mind… Proposition 8. Remember that one? Tossed out on its ass. You were schooled on California and the validity of amendments.
I’m not lazy. You’re lazy. You’re one of the most lazy people on here. LA Times… meh… I never did like the format of their online site.
To type a lot? What have you ever done to change anything?
And who are you say I’m not doing anything? Where did I say anything about propositions under this article? ARe you this dense and stupid in person? The Courts have the final say (if they choose) on anything, including on Propositions (if they so choose to review any cases challenge these propositions).
Anyways, you’re basically arguing about something I wasn’t even talking about. You got sidetracked once again. Stay on subject please.
Giancarlo85
What have you done about anything in the political process? What kind of activism have you ever done? You type a lot more than me on here (sometimes enormous paragraphs of incoherent rubbish).
You’re a true lazy tool who likes to throw stones and you got totally sidetracked here. If you think civil rights are fine to vote on, you’re more screwed up than I thought. Have a good night!
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: Did the courts prevent Prop 8 from getting on the ballot? Or Hero in Houston? I agree that the CA proposition system, as it is, is probably the dumbest thing about your whole state. So do something about it in real life if you want.
And I didn’t say “I’m fine with voting on civil rights,” but referendums DO exist and they’ve been routine in the U.S. for over a century. They happen all the time. Saying they “shouldn’t” happen doesn’t stop them.
When you vote, do you skip over the propositions because you don’t believe in propositions? Oh right, you probably do. Probably too much reading for you anyway!
Real life: well you’re a lot younger than most of us here (as you never cease to remind us, usually as insultingly as possible), so it’s up to you to go outside occasionally and actually do something in real life instead of typing on Queerty all the time.
Off topic? You’re always going off topic here. It’s all about YOOOU, the Giancarlo Show. And you write way more than anyone here.
Your idea of “political activism” is to type a lot on Queerty. You’re a complete phony.
Btw, another great job of “ignoring” me lol. 🙂
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: I bet you have never, even once, written any of your state legislators about any subject. That would take away too much from your precious typing time on Queerty. You probably don’t even know your legislators’ names, although at least now maybe you’ll google them so you can pretend you knew them all along. (You’re too lazy to google anything on Queerty when you forget ridiculous things YOU wrote here, which happens a lot lately.)
You argue endlessly with posters here EVEN THOUGH you have convinced yourself they are all, in reality, one or two people with multiple accounts! Yeah that’s a real productive use of your time.
Phony! LOL.
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: Um that’s great and all, but what does that have to do with my posts in here? You’ve been totally sidetracked. I think more needs to be done to prevent faulty propositions from making it on ballot, but I’ll revise my train of thought. I think we should keep them as long as their are more protections against nefarious ones. I also suggested the legislature approve any such amendments aswell.
I never said I don’t believe in propositions. You are just making things up and you are totally sidetracked.
The courts did throw away multiple amendments and propositions in the past (not just Proposition 8) when legal challenges arose.
WHat does any of this have to do with my original posts under this article? I am not getting it really. I was discussing homophobia and misogyny. Is this just one of your unstable, imbalanced rants? Maybe you’re unhappy with a discussion we had many months ago? Um, I don’t think this is the right place for it. I really have nothing else to say to a phony like you. Have a nice day!
Oh by the way, I Do know the names of my local legislators. I also know the name of my California State Assembly member as I did campaign work for him. Matt Dababneh. Brad Sherman is a member of the US House of Representatives that represents my district on the federal level. Do you think I’m lazy now? I’m not googling either of them. I didn’t campaign for Sherman because he always wins by huge mnargins, but I did for Dababneh as he was running against Tea Party fanatic Susan Shelley.
Anyways, have a great day. I hope you work out those issues. I’m sure you’ll be a better person in the end.
Giancarlo85
By the way, if I was that lazy, why do I always look up links and sources for my argument and you never do? Offthemark again.
You really are an egotistical little nutcase.
Giancarlo85
Oh and you type a shit load more than I do. I don’t do “political activism” on here. Unlike you (your entire mission on here is to insult me), I get out and contribute to my community, to local campaigns and to state campaigns. What have you ever done? You’re too busy on here tracking me down and insulting me whenever you get a chance.
Get a life, hypocrite.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: “why do I always look up links and sources for my argument and you never do?” On the contrary, I’ve often cited quotes that YOU wrote here and you STILL deny ever writing them even though the cite is right there.
I told you several months ago what I do in real life, and you insulted me (typically).
” I get out and contribute to my community, to local campaigns and to state campaigns.” Yeah right. When would you possibly have the time to do any of that? You’re always here! You’ve typed way more than I have EVEN IN THIS VERY THREAD WHERE YOU’RE DECLARING THAT YOU DON’T TYPE THAT MUCH. Ha ha ha ha ha. It’s right there. And you throw practically every topic thread on Queerty off-topic!
Giancarlo85
What does this have to do with this article? I was talking about different subjects. You have an enormous ego and you need to tone it down a couple of notches. Also stop insulting me whenever you get a chance. I’m not insulting you anymore. End this nonsense.
You really need to sort through your issues. I wish you the best of luck in that. And I’m serious.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: “I’m not insulting you anymore.” Actually you HAVE been much better about that recently. And I like your political threads where you argue (very successfully) with BJ, Alastair, oxycodone, SeeingEyeDog et al.
But I’ve never made a secret of what I’m up to with you. As I’ve often noted, it’s just that you’re so much fun to mess with and you always take the bait! (Stache99 noticed this last week.) If you really want to “ignore” me – as you’ve declared several times you would do – nobody is stopping you from ignoring me.
Giancarlo85
So what does this have to do with this article?
The whole rambling mess about amendments has nothing to do with a thread about homosexuality and Brian’s obvious misogyny.
You really need to sort out your issues before you “try to mess” with anyone. Throwing stones from a glass house doesn’t work to your advantage. I ignored Stache99 after a while. He was boring. Useless poster really.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: It’s great that you SUDDENLY care about off-topic comments (a violation of the Queerty comment policy) after doing that yourself about 15 million times (modest estimate), Now that you see how annoying it is, maybe you’ll avoid doing it from now on? 🙂
Giancarlo85
@onthemark: I’ve kept on topic. And no, I haven’t done that. Just one more of your laundry list of distortions and lies. Are you running for political office? You should (run as a republican of course). Lying is something that seems to come naturally for you.
Daggerman
…we humans are so pathetic…we have such a hard time believing in many things that are natural…I believe for starters we need to ditch the ‘RELIGION’ thing because we are not the same as we were 2,OOO years ago. Simple.
onthemark
@Giancarlo85: You lie about stuff you’ve written YOURSELF, even after it’s proven that you did in fact write it. You outdo us all in lying!