As the FBI looks into whether Kieran Daly’s Savannah gay bashing qualifies as a hate crime under the Matthew Shepard Act, you’ll be pleased to know the official police report claims Cpl. Keil Joseph Cronauer, the 22-year-old misdemeanor battery suspect, did not hit Daly. But Cpl. Christopher Charles Stanzel might have!
Cronauer and Stanzel (pictured, L-R) were enjoying some pizza slices early Saturday morning, joking around “with four others”; Daly among them. Then Cronauer, The Morning Calls reports, “found out one of the other men was gay,” thought he “winked at him” and “within minutes, Daly lay on the ground unconscious.”
The account comes from another man and a woman who were sharing pizza with Cronauer, another Marine and Daly, according to a police report that does not state how the people in the group knew each other. Police later charged Cronauer, a 2006 graduate of Parkland High School, and Lance Cpl. Christopher Stanzel with assault.
[…] Cronauer, 22, did not hit Daly, according to the police report [read in full here], which says Cronauer got upset when he found out Daly is gay and demanded, “Did you just wink at me?” When one of Daly’s friends tried to get Daly to leave, Stanzel walked behind the gay man, who in a moment was out cold on the ground, police say.
“Did you just hit him?” the friend, Alison Brennan, told police she asked Stanzel, who was standing over Daly. “No,” the 23-year-old Marine said, according to the report.
So that wasn’t Stanzel and Cronauer who a police officer spotted running away from the scene, and later found out of breath hiding in a vancat lot, right?
Mr. Enemabag Jones
When one of Daly’s friends tried to get Daly to leave
So rather than tell the two meathead marines to piss off, she tells her friend to leave? Hets really do stick together, don’t they?
Baxter
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: Yes, because clearly the friend should’ve taken on two large drunks instead. Sometimes the best option is to leave a bad situation before you end up dead.
Troy Boy
“Which One of These Marines Allegedly Landed the Brutal Blows to Kieran Daly?”
Man this perpetuates stereotyping. How many people read this and immediately said, “That one did it!” based on nothing but a photo?
Of course, the marines claiming “unwanted verbal advances” made me do it is no better.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@Baxter:
By telling Kieran Daly to leave, she made him out to be the guilty party who needed to be removed. You get rid of the trouble makers, not the people being harassed.
Cam
Interesting that the Police Report in this southern town is claiming that the two Marines did nothing and yet the two Marines were already trying to use the gay panic defense. Guess they should have waited and stayed quiet, sounds like the police were ready to lie to help them out.
Ryan
When I read ‘Brutal’ in the headline, it made feel ill for a moment…
I thought it meant he may have died.
scott ny'er
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: That makes sense. But maybe, she was looking out for her friends welfare and thinking the two dirtbags would do something violent. Which they did.
Picking your battles is survival. Sadly, this didn’t work out for Daly, but who would’ve thought the cowards would HIT HIM FROM BEHIND. And not even give him a fighting chance.
alan brickman
they need to be re-educated and work in gay hostles…not just shunned..we need to meet halfway…
Seattle Mike
And don’t you just know that the reason the Marines reacted so violently was because they secretly want to bum each other? I’d put money on it.
Jin K.L
These dirtbag LOSERS at life were complaining how they got so many threats on facebook and it hurt their feelings. guess what assholes…there’s more gay people out there than you would think. When one of us is hurt all of us are hurt. We need to come together and stand against this hate so PLEASE facebook these 2 failures and give them a piece of your mind. Not that they’ll ever amount to anything in life..just look at them.
ossurworld
If these photos are an indication, there is not much remorse…
my friend
first of all kieran is not all that innocent. I know him personally and one he was a married man with twin boys and at 3 in the morning he should have been home with them. He has a big mouth he gave his soon to be ex wife an std from sleeping with some man and I am sorry but I dont feel sorry for him. I dont think the whole story is being exposed and I dont think its that cut and dry. I swear I am not a gay hater or anything like that. As I said I just happen to know him and his wife personally.. ask him to be your friend on facebook and then ask his wife to be your friend her name is beth daly.. you will agree even though his situation is fucked up, he brought it on himself.
Baxter
@my friend: I don’t care how much of an asshole Kieran may or may not be. You don’t go around beating people unconscious and you especially don’t go around beating people unconscious just because you don’t happen to like their sexual orientation, race, sex, whatever. These two are just thugs and hopefully they’ll be spending some time in prison.
hyhybt
@my friend: Yeah, right.
Even if all that is true (and that’s at least a 72-point “if”) it’s no reason to knock him out.
jon doe
i would totally wink at the one on the left. one on the right, not so much.
Tommy Marx
Keil Joseph Cronauer is cute. He’s also gay. I’m sorry, but a straight guy – drunk or not – does not blow up if he thinks another guy winked at him. Instead he’s like “whatever dude, not interested”. I remember I was at this bar, and this was in the ’90s in North Carolina, and this drunk guy came up to me and asked me why I kept looking at him. I was pretty drunk myself and said, “I’m sorry, you’re really good looking, but I didn’t mean to make you feel uncomfortable or anything. I apologize.” And he shrugged it off and said, “it’s cool”. Straight guys don’t freak out if gay guys look at them (most of the time they’re a little flattered, even though they’re not interested at all – most people like the idea that other people think they’re hot). It’s only closet queers that get all upset and start cursing and hitting and, yes, acting like a drama queen.
I can understand why Keil reacted so strongly, and like I said, I think he’s cute. I also hope that something large – like a tank or a jet plane – runs him over. He’s a fucking marine – he should deal with being gay, not beat up anyone he thinks might expose his “secret”. What a weak piece of shit.
Wy
Is it just me or do they both look like guys you’d find on ActiveDuty.com and the like?
The “innocent” All-American and the roided “badass” with a girlfriend that won’t put out – they’re almost a template.
Jane Doe
@my friend: You are correct… the full story is NOT being exposed. His past most certainly does have everything to do with what is happening now, especially his recent past because it sheds some light into his behavior. While nothing excuses what has happened to him, I believe that since Kieran put it out there for everyone then the full truth of the matter should be exposed. It will eventually all come out, either in the course of the investigation or in the course of his divorce hearings. I just hate that the public is being deceived by the lack of true information regarding what really happened…. why do you really think he was squinting at 3am in downtown Savannah and why would he feel the need to lie about that? That’s just a tiny bit of what is not being told and what he has lied about.
Don’t even bother responding for my benefit, discuss it among yourselves if you like but I will not be back through here, just passing by.
whatever
lol. these marines have unleashed their flying monkeys on here to trash the victim.
Black Pegasus
@my friend: OH MY!!! You sholl spilled the Tea didn’t you!!? LOL
Tim
@my friend: Stupid dumb ass backward bigot! We don’t give a flying %*&@ about his back story. One of our own was gay abshed because he was gay. You defended the gay bashers…GO F8CK YOURSELF! You know who really brought it toward themselves? you hicks who live in the Bible belt and believe everything you’re told because you’re too damn stupid to travel outside your bumkin towns and see the world. No one deserves to be hit, especially not for their sexuality but I wouldn’t expect people who mate with their sister to grasp that. And maybe his wife was some nut job like you!
Kyle
No one here gives a shit about his past, so to his ex wifes red neck family and the friends of these two white trash rednecks..get off our property. We don’t want imbred idiots polluting our site. You mess with one gay, you’ve mssed with us all. It puts a smile on my face knowing these two losers just said “BUH-BYE” to their future. Enjoy prison, boys!
WiseUp
My friend : Some of the latest evidence of Daly’s past suggests you might be correct.
WiseUp
And speak for yoursself, Kyle. I don’t consider every other gay “one of us.” I’ve had more trouble from other gays causing trouble to myself and my loved ones than from “rednecks.”
Ugh
Savannah, Ga is definitely NOT a backwoods redneck town as you yankees try to make it out to be. In fact, it’s home to the largest art and design school in the country and has a huge gay and liberal population. In fact, I’d go so far to say that Savannah is not only more cosmopolitan, but also, more diverse and much more progressive than most of your northern cities.
@myfriend and @wiseup, you are both correct. His past is certainly fair game in this case. Furthermore, if this man was making unwanted advances on one of the two Marines, why are we not screaming sexual harrassment??
No, violence is not the answer, nor is it acceptable. But why can’t we hold this Daly guy accountable for being a general jackass? Just because victims of assault sometimes happen to be gay doesn’t mean it’s always a hate crime. And gays certainly shouldn’t be allowed to do whatever they please to whomever they please simply because they’re gay.
Coco
I know the man who Kieran left his wife for. I feel sorry for everyone involved in this situation.
They are moving in together soon…I hope that is situation is not toxic.
Uncle
I jumped all over Chris for acting like an idiot. I’ve never known him to do anything like this. I’m convinced that Daly said something that triggered his anger and it had nothing to do with being gay. Chris’ dad, like me, have many friends with same sex attractions. We have family involved in same sex relations. The best man in my wedding was gay. We come from a very traditional family with surprisingly famous ancestors from all sides. If anyone acts like white trash, it’s not this side of the family. Chris’ lost his dad at the age of 9 and may be suffering from anxieties related to how and why he lost his father. My suspicion is that Daly or someone with Daly, hit a nerve at the wrong time in the life of a young man about to be deployed. If you know anything about military life, deployment status is nerve racking. Chris has always been a sweet and gentle kid. in some ways, he reminds me of me, trying to prove himself aside from his family name.
If your only concerned about the gay agenda, continue bashing them like their demons. But remember this, he has a large family with people who love him dearly. Give the boy a break. he’s still young and his brain is still developing according to proven psychology. If he turns out to be attracted to men, oh well, that’s his problem. No one in my family condones his behavior. We’re just trying to protect him while he learns a lesson. I’m sure Daly’s wife appreciates the fact he was out with his friends while she remained home with his children. I have no respect for a man with children that fails to man up. My brother didn’t man up for Chris. Please show the boy – young man – a little more compassion and help him learn from a very stupid mistake.
I’m sure he and his sister will give me hell for saying this. But they already cut me off. Oh well, that’s their loss.