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		<title>By: ran</title>
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		<dc:creator>ran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Troy Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mixed race 35 on the DL seeks emails to contact. Be near La. Californication.
Love,
Troy</description>
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Love,<br />
Troy</p>
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		<title>By: hairybutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>hairybutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cause they&#039;re ugly, and we&#039;r racists</description>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DGZ, I agree with ya.... You&#039;ve not totally missed my point, but simply added a different perspective to the whole issue. Although you have a point there, that Hollywood, at the end of the day, is trying to sell advertising -- and therefore is attempting to cater to the biggest demographics, however, I would argue, that advertisers would still want to reach those minority demographics -- 4% of the population is still a big number.

So, if you can reach 4% of 300 million -- that&#039;s 12 million people! If 12 million people would give me $1, I&#039;d be a multimillionaire! I won&#039;t pretend that I&#039;m a business major or that I know anything about marketing, but it&#039;s a bit silly for a business to say, well, we&#039;re competing with a gazillion number of other players for 96% of the market, but we&#039;re ignoring 4% of the market that have few, if any players.

Take the Apple success story. Yes, Apple/Mac was (and still is) a niche market, but yet they&#039;ve built successful business model based on their own computing platform, and then expanded their market by creating a successful product that everyone else is trying to copy. And yet, that is not what we&#039;re seeing in Hollywood... There are some successful TV shows in the years past that featured mainly black characters, but instead of copying that success model and creating other TV shows with similar characteristics, they&#039;ve totally abandoned the market...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DGZ, I agree with ya&#8230;. You&#8217;ve not totally missed my point, but simply added a different perspective to the whole issue. Although you have a point there, that Hollywood, at the end of the day, is trying to sell advertising &#8212; and therefore is attempting to cater to the biggest demographics, however, I would argue, that advertisers would still want to reach those minority demographics &#8212; 4% of the population is still a big number.</p>
<p>So, if you can reach 4% of 300 million &#8212; that&#8217;s 12 million people! If 12 million people would give me $1, I&#8217;d be a multimillionaire! I won&#8217;t pretend that I&#8217;m a business major or that I know anything about marketing, but it&#8217;s a bit silly for a business to say, well, we&#8217;re competing with a gazillion number of other players for 96% of the market, but we&#8217;re ignoring 4% of the market that have few, if any players.</p>
<p>Take the Apple success story. Yes, Apple/Mac was (and still is) a niche market, but yet they&#8217;ve built successful business model based on their own computing platform, and then expanded their market by creating a successful product that everyone else is trying to copy. And yet, that is not what we&#8217;re seeing in Hollywood&#8230; There are some successful TV shows in the years past that featured mainly black characters, but instead of copying that success model and creating other TV shows with similar characteristics, they&#8217;ve totally abandoned the market&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jbrotherlove</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbrotherlove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll somewhat echo Taylor Siluwé; I don&#039;t want past complaints to overshadow that this is a great post. Is it the most comprehensive about the event? Perhaps not. But there are other accounts of the event. You should never let one source of information be your only source anyway.

I&#039;m not upset that Queerty doesn&#039;t post more about black, gay issues; a blog responds to its core audience. And they do a good job of that. Besides, there are plenty of black, gay blogs online if that&#039;s what you&#039;re interested in reading. In fact, I find that Queerty does a better job than most mainstream gay blogs at covering non-white gay issues.

The biggest news is how the NAACP has finally started to recognize black, gay characters on a more regular basis. Who would think? This is something the black gay community needs to demand more from mainstream black media as well as gay media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll somewhat echo Taylor Siluwé; I don&#8217;t want past complaints to overshadow that this is a great post. Is it the most comprehensive about the event? Perhaps not. But there are other accounts of the event. You should never let one source of information be your only source anyway.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not upset that Queerty doesn&#8217;t post more about black, gay issues; a blog responds to its core audience. And they do a good job of that. Besides, there are plenty of black, gay blogs online if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re interested in reading. In fact, I find that Queerty does a better job than most mainstream gay blogs at covering non-white gay issues.</p>
<p>The biggest news is how the NAACP has finally started to recognize black, gay characters on a more regular basis. Who would think? This is something the black gay community needs to demand more from mainstream black media as well as gay media.</p>
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		<title>By: dgz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dgz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-120765&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;QUEEN BEE&lt;/a&gt;: 

ew.  that is the weakest attempt at driving a wedge in our community that i&#039;ve ever seen.  you are dismissed.</description>
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<p>ew.  that is the weakest attempt at driving a wedge in our community that i&#8217;ve ever seen.  you are dismissed.</p>
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		<title>By: Raphael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That comment was in reference to some obviously offensive comments on this thread. I don&#039;t think I need to point them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That comment was in reference to some obviously offensive comments on this thread. I don&#8217;t think I need to point them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Raphael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE DON&#039;T FEED THE TROLLS!</description>
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		<title>By: Mister C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Paul, I have read Rod 2.0 and it&#039;s great! And in my comment #9 I meant to say thatn I am NOT disgruntled. And Lucas I totally agree with you.</description>
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		<title>By: cruiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>cruiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-120723&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dgz&lt;/a&gt;: I think you got it spot on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-120723" rel="nofollow">dgz</a>: I think you got it spot on!</p>
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		<title>By: dgz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dgz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucas, i think you have it right -- there&#039;s a dearth of black roles in general.  But let me play devil&#039;s advocate for a second: we have to remember, Hollywood is a *business,* first and foremost.  from a marketing standpoint they&#039;re looking at catering to a group that is 4-6% of the 12.4% of African Americans in this country.  That&#039;s demographically tiny -- far smaller than even the Asian American market, and i would challenge anyone to name 10 A-List Asian stars.  Worse, after the prop 8 debacle, there&#039;s little to indicate that straight AA audiences are even interested in seeing positive depictions of LGBTs, black or otherwise.  

Hollywood loves patting itself on the back for breaking new ground, or influencing people -- but with the exception of the odd indie film, tinsel town&#039;s really only interested in success.  hopefully, surfacing power-players like Wanda Sykes will be able to convince peers that a market exists, and their ongoing popularity with audiences of all colors and orientations will provide the impetus the community needs.  

do you agree, or maybe i missed the point entirely?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucas, i think you have it right &#8212; there&#8217;s a dearth of black roles in general.  But let me play devil&#8217;s advocate for a second: we have to remember, Hollywood is a *business,* first and foremost.  from a marketing standpoint they&#8217;re looking at catering to a group that is 4-6% of the 12.4% of African Americans in this country.  That&#8217;s demographically tiny &#8212; far smaller than even the Asian American market, and i would challenge anyone to name 10 A-List Asian stars.  Worse, after the prop 8 debacle, there&#8217;s little to indicate that straight AA audiences are even interested in seeing positive depictions of LGBTs, black or otherwise.  </p>
<p>Hollywood loves patting itself on the back for breaking new ground, or influencing people &#8212; but with the exception of the odd indie film, tinsel town&#8217;s really only interested in success.  hopefully, surfacing power-players like Wanda Sykes will be able to convince peers that a market exists, and their ongoing popularity with audiences of all colors and orientations will provide the impetus the community needs.  </p>
<p>do you agree, or maybe i missed the point entirely?</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in agreement with Mister C. Perhaps the issue isn&#039;t mainly about black and gay characters as much it is about black characters. Just look at the amount of stupid television dramas, sitcoms, etc. How many of them currently running feature one, two or more black characters in its cast? I find it hard to even name three. In recent times, most TV shows featuring mainly black characters were canceled and replaced with shows featuring predominantly white characters....

Now, despite of several actors &quot;breaking the barrier&quot; after playing gay role(s), I would say most would still regard playing a gay role on TV is somewhat of a death trap -- something to be avoided, and actors do out of desperation. Given that stigma about gay roles, add on to that the lack of black characters in general on TV shows -- where is the incentive to play black *AND* gay characters?

Come on people, just think of overreaction to Janet Jackson&#039;s boob incident and the lack of regard for Madonna&#039;s near-pornographic performances you&#039;d hopefully understand difficulty in choosing to play (gay) roles facing black actors in comparison to their white counter parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in agreement with Mister C. Perhaps the issue isn&#8217;t mainly about black and gay characters as much it is about black characters. Just look at the amount of stupid television dramas, sitcoms, etc. How many of them currently running feature one, two or more black characters in its cast? I find it hard to even name three. In recent times, most TV shows featuring mainly black characters were canceled and replaced with shows featuring predominantly white characters&#8230;.</p>
<p>Now, despite of several actors &#8220;breaking the barrier&#8221; after playing gay role(s), I would say most would still regard playing a gay role on TV is somewhat of a death trap &#8212; something to be avoided, and actors do out of desperation. Given that stigma about gay roles, add on to that the lack of black characters in general on TV shows &#8212; where is the incentive to play black *AND* gay characters?</p>
<p>Come on people, just think of overreaction to Janet Jackson&#8217;s boob incident and the lack of regard for Madonna&#8217;s near-pornographic performances you&#8217;d hopefully understand difficulty in choosing to play (gay) roles facing black actors in comparison to their white counter parts.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have given up, actually don&#039;t really come here for news on Blk gay issues. Mr. C, I don&#039;t know if you are aware, but a great source for Blk Gay issues online is Rod 2.0. I am not a shill for blog, but as a gay Blk male, I have found that they have an excellent mix of commentary on national news, fashion, and the occasional hottie. Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have given up, actually don&#8217;t really come here for news on Blk gay issues. Mr. C, I don&#8217;t know if you are aware, but a great source for Blk Gay issues online is Rod 2.0. I am not a shill for blog, but as a gay Blk male, I have found that they have an excellent mix of commentary on national news, fashion, and the occasional hottie. Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaroslaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaroslaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gran Diva - I watched every single episode of Noah&#039;s Arc and disagree.  There were MANY stereotypes, but not all, which is exactly what I said.  To expect Hollywood to reflect normal life is only available (sometimes) in movies.  Ongoing series are all stereotyped to a degree.  No family or relationship would survive if people in real life put each other down the way they do in 99% of sit coms.

Now if I think all the guys are hot (except Trey&#039;s BF) how is that a stereotype?  Or is it news to you that to get most roles in a movie or on TV, you have to be good looking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gran Diva &#8211; I watched every single episode of Noah&#8217;s Arc and disagree.  There were MANY stereotypes, but not all, which is exactly what I said.  To expect Hollywood to reflect normal life is only available (sometimes) in movies.  Ongoing series are all stereotyped to a degree.  No family or relationship would survive if people in real life put each other down the way they do in 99% of sit coms.</p>
<p>Now if I think all the guys are hot (except Trey&#8217;s BF) how is that a stereotype?  Or is it news to you that to get most roles in a movie or on TV, you have to be good looking?</p>
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		<title>By: GranDiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>GranDiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-120524&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blake&lt;/a&gt;: 

&quot;He played a fighter pilot who was married and had a son. The character was separated from his wife and was rooming with his best friend and the friend&#039;s boyfriend. During the season, Underwood&#039;s character had an affair with his shrink&#039;s female lover.&quot;

I&#039;d hardly call it an &quot;affair.&quot;  The female patient was not yet the psychiatrist&#039;s lover at that point, although she very much wanted to be, which is why she went after the fighter pilot in the first place. The attempt at the alleged affair was abortive to a degree, and ultimately the whole thing led to the pilot&#039;s suicide over the whole gay thing, and indirectly led to &lt;i&gt;Glynn Turman&lt;/i&gt; (a/k/a the former Mr. Aretha Franklin) getting all the acting nomination as the bereaved father rather than Blair Underwood as the suicidal son.

And we must also remember that in the original Israeli show, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betipul&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;???????&lt;/a&gt;, the character was played by Lior Ashkenazi, who is just as hot, but nowhere near black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-120524" rel="nofollow">blake</a>: </p>
<p>&#8220;He played a fighter pilot who was married and had a son. The character was separated from his wife and was rooming with his best friend and the friend&#8217;s boyfriend. During the season, Underwood&#8217;s character had an affair with his shrink&#8217;s female lover.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d hardly call it an &#8220;affair.&#8221;  The female patient was not yet the psychiatrist&#8217;s lover at that point, although she very much wanted to be, which is why she went after the fighter pilot in the first place. The attempt at the alleged affair was abortive to a degree, and ultimately the whole thing led to the pilot&#8217;s suicide over the whole gay thing, and indirectly led to <i>Glynn Turman</i> (a/k/a the former Mr. Aretha Franklin) getting all the acting nomination as the bereaved father rather than Blair Underwood as the suicidal son.</p>
<p>And we must also remember that in the original Israeli show, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betipul" rel="nofollow">???????</a>, the character was played by Lior Ashkenazi, who is just as hot, but nowhere near black.</p>
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		<title>By: GranDiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>GranDiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-120525&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jaroslaw&lt;/a&gt;: 
The hell it wasn&#039;t...

And the idea that they were all hot is a stereotype in and of itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a class="atr_link" href="#comment-120525" rel="nofollow">Jaroslaw</a>:<br />
The hell it wasn&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
<p>And the idea that they were all hot is a stereotype in and of itself.</p>
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		<title>By: cruiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>cruiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the reason there are not more positive black gay role models because they are afraid of being a double minority? If there were more programs like Noah&quot;s ARC perhaps it would be easier for people within the black community to be more accepting that one of their own is either gay,lesbian,bi,even transgendered.
It is difficult enough in this world when you are a minority(regardless of whether it is because of race, sexual orientation or whatever)to find role models to look up to. It is time for the major players in the black community to step forward into the spotlight &amp; go &quot;hey, look at me, I&#039;m black, I&#039;m gay &amp; I am successful in what I do(police officer, firefighter, doctor, etc.)I can make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the reason there are not more positive black gay role models because they are afraid of being a double minority? If there were more programs like Noah&#8221;s ARC perhaps it would be easier for people within the black community to be more accepting that one of their own is either gay,lesbian,bi,even transgendered.<br />
It is difficult enough in this world when you are a minority(regardless of whether it is because of race, sexual orientation or whatever)to find role models to look up to. It is time for the major players in the black community to step forward into the spotlight &amp; go &#8220;hey, look at me, I&#8217;m black, I&#8217;m gay &amp; I am successful in what I do(police officer, firefighter, doctor, etc.)I can make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look at any tv or movie with gay characters regardless of race for what it was intended to be (or so I hope). ENTERTAINMENT.  You are looking at ACTORS who went to a casting call, read a script and were chosen for their ability to bring the CHARACTER to life. Case closed. Discussion over.

There is no way I will believe that every white gay male lives as the characters on Queer As Folk were depicted. The same applies to Noah&#039;s Arc. 

Did anyone else out there notice how for the most part in both of those shows no characters were over 40 and it was next to impossible to see someone who did not have a six-pac and NOT wearing the tighest undies offered by International Male? I mean really. 

I loved Noah&#039;s Arc because of the breakthrough it was but having to see week and week this person dressing and talking like he was 16 years old got old fast. But I reminded myself this is a script and actors I am looking at, not reality.

I applaud Rupaul for his bringing the plus size girl who was clearly older than 30 on his latest show. Even though I had a feeling she would be voted off first I am thrilled she showed everyone does not fit the role of a twink or just a strait out slut who has to flaunt her &quot;assetts&quot; just to get and stay noticed. 

Tyler Perry hosting the show is the only reason why I am going to watch. I feel confident that at least one actor portraying a gay character will walk away with something. I will leave it at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look at any tv or movie with gay characters regardless of race for what it was intended to be (or so I hope). ENTERTAINMENT.  You are looking at ACTORS who went to a casting call, read a script and were chosen for their ability to bring the CHARACTER to life. Case closed. Discussion over.</p>
<p>There is no way I will believe that every white gay male lives as the characters on Queer As Folk were depicted. The same applies to Noah&#8217;s Arc. </p>
<p>Did anyone else out there notice how for the most part in both of those shows no characters were over 40 and it was next to impossible to see someone who did not have a six-pac and NOT wearing the tighest undies offered by International Male? I mean really. </p>
<p>I loved Noah&#8217;s Arc because of the breakthrough it was but having to see week and week this person dressing and talking like he was 16 years old got old fast. But I reminded myself this is a script and actors I am looking at, not reality.</p>
<p>I applaud Rupaul for his bringing the plus size girl who was clearly older than 30 on his latest show. Even though I had a feeling she would be voted off first I am thrilled she showed everyone does not fit the role of a twink or just a strait out slut who has to flaunt her &#8220;assetts&#8221; just to get and stay noticed. </p>
<p>Tyler Perry hosting the show is the only reason why I am going to watch. I feel confident that at least one actor portraying a gay character will walk away with something. I will leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: MadProfessah</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadProfessah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was there at yesterday&#039;s forum at the Screen Actors Guild in mid-Wilshire, and this is an excellent write-up except it neglects to mention that the forum actually began with an excellent video montage of Black LGBT images in the mainstream media produced and directed by the creative team behind the DL Chronicles and the assembled crowd of 60-80 was welcomed by brand-new SAG Interim Executive Director.

The panel itself was excellent and comprehensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there at yesterday&#8217;s forum at the Screen Actors Guild in mid-Wilshire, and this is an excellent write-up except it neglects to mention that the forum actually began with an excellent video montage of Black LGBT images in the mainstream media produced and directed by the creative team behind the DL Chronicles and the assembled crowd of 60-80 was welcomed by brand-new SAG Interim Executive Director.</p>
<p>The panel itself was excellent and comprehensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister C</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/why-are-hollywoods-black-gay-characters-on-the-downlow-20090212/#comment-120560</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m disgruntled at all and no shade taken. I&#039;m just saying it is what it is. And oh if I was disgruntled you all know that. Life is too short but we as Black Gays do not need to be a muse for when it&#039;s an available attempt to be exposed for someones else&#039;s enjoyment, or foolywang.

Think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m disgruntled at all and no shade taken. I&#8217;m just saying it is what it is. And oh if I was disgruntled you all know that. Life is too short but we as Black Gays do not need to be a muse for when it&#8217;s an available attempt to be exposed for someones else&#8217;s enjoyment, or foolywang.</p>
<p>Think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor Siluwé</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/why-are-hollywoods-black-gay-characters-on-the-downlow-20090212/#comment-120551</link>
		<dc:creator>Taylor Siluwé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mister C:

Are addressing past grievances, or this post in particular?  Its difficult to tell.  

I also have seen some lack of concern for Black gays at Queerty and other places in the past.  But past is just that.  When someone reaches out a hand you don&#039;t slap it away because it didn&#039;t come soon enough.  No shade, but the word &#039;ingrate&#039; comes to mind.

This post, on its face, is accurate and so on point.  It also serves (since you missed it) as a heads up that the Awards are ON TONIGHT, on Fox, and that Black gays characters are up for accolades.  Hmm, on Queerty, imagine that.

It seems to me that being disgruntled at this juncture is misguided and completely pointless.  But thats just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mister C:</p>
<p>Are addressing past grievances, or this post in particular?  Its difficult to tell.  </p>
<p>I also have seen some lack of concern for Black gays at Queerty and other places in the past.  But past is just that.  When someone reaches out a hand you don&#8217;t slap it away because it didn&#8217;t come soon enough.  No shade, but the word &#8216;ingrate&#8217; comes to mind.</p>
<p>This post, on its face, is accurate and so on point.  It also serves (since you missed it) as a heads up that the Awards are ON TONIGHT, on Fox, and that Black gays characters are up for accolades.  Hmm, on Queerty, imagine that.</p>
<p>It seems to me that being disgruntled at this juncture is misguided and completely pointless.  But thats just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister C</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/why-are-hollywoods-black-gay-characters-on-the-downlow-20090212/#comment-120536</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets try this again. It&#039;s 8AM here in Arizona.

I&#039;m sorry but since when does Queerty care about Black Gays being on TV especially with some of those past threads during the Democratic campaign? Now like I&#039;ve said before White Gay Men mostly read this blog we blacks are definitely in the minority here and NO I&#039;m not calling you guys prejudice.

Now lets see how many will read this thread, better yet lets see how many will watch the NAACP Awards. We&#039;re not much of their interest and that&#039;s fine also.

And further more The National Black Justice Coalition I haven&#039;t seen much they CONTRIBUTED to the Black Gay Community. I hear them all the time going off at predominately white gay male discussion panels about BLACK HOMOPHOBIA as if no other race of people are, and so call chastising Black Gays over certain issues, etc. But never have I seen them do anything else. At least I haven&#039;t seen not to say they have.

Now it would be great to see Black Gay characters on TV and we have seen them from the professional, to the flamboyant, to the rugged masculine, to the effeminate, to the hard core thuggish bone type. Then again all it would get is lot of severe criticisms. For what it&#039;s worth we all seen how most on here didn&#039;t care for Noah&#039;s Arc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets try this again. It&#8217;s 8AM here in Arizona.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but since when does Queerty care about Black Gays being on TV especially with some of those past threads during the Democratic campaign? Now like I&#8217;ve said before White Gay Men mostly read this blog we blacks are definitely in the minority here and NO I&#8217;m not calling you guys prejudice.</p>
<p>Now lets see how many will read this thread, better yet lets see how many will watch the NAACP Awards. We&#8217;re not much of their interest and that&#8217;s fine also.</p>
<p>And further more The National Black Justice Coalition I haven&#8217;t seen much they CONTRIBUTED to the Black Gay Community. I hear them all the time going off at predominately white gay male discussion panels about BLACK HOMOPHOBIA as if no other race of people are, and so call chastising Black Gays over certain issues, etc. But never have I seen them do anything else. At least I haven&#8217;t seen not to say they have.</p>
<p>Now it would be great to see Black Gay characters on TV and we have seen them from the professional, to the flamboyant, to the rugged masculine, to the effeminate, to the hard core thuggish bone type. Then again all it would get is lot of severe criticisms. For what it&#8217;s worth we all seen how most on here didn&#8217;t care for Noah&#8217;s Arc.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister C</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/why-are-hollywoods-black-gay-characters-on-the-downlow-20090212/#comment-120534</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOPS in my last paragraph I meant to say Now it would be great to see Black Gay characters on TV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOPS in my last paragraph I meant to say Now it would be great to see Black Gay characters on TV</p>
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		<title>By: Mister C</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/why-are-hollywoods-black-gay-characters-on-the-downlow-20090212/#comment-120532</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but since when does Queerty care about Black Gays being on TV especially with some of those past threads during the Democratic campaign? Now like I&#039;ve said before White Gay Men mostly read this blog we blacks are definitely in the minority here and NO I&#039;m not calling you guys prejudice.

Now lets see how many will read this thread, better yet lets see how many will watch the NAACP Awards. We&#039;re not much of their interest and that&#039;s fine also.

And further more The National Black Justice Coalition I haven&#039;t seen much they CONTRIBUTED to the Black Gay Community. I here them al the time going off at predominately white gay male discussion panels about BLACK HOMOPHOBIA as if no other race of people are, and so call chastising Black Gays over certain issues, etc. But never have I seen them do anything else. At least I haven&#039;t seen not to say they have.

No it would be great to see Black Gay characters on TV and we have seen them from the professional, to the flamboyant, to the rugged masculine, to the effeminate, to the hard core thuggish bone type. Then again all it would get is lot of severe criticisms. For what it&#039;s worth we all seen how most on here didn&#039;t care for Noah&#039;s Arc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but since when does Queerty care about Black Gays being on TV especially with some of those past threads during the Democratic campaign? Now like I&#8217;ve said before White Gay Men mostly read this blog we blacks are definitely in the minority here and NO I&#8217;m not calling you guys prejudice.</p>
<p>Now lets see how many will read this thread, better yet lets see how many will watch the NAACP Awards. We&#8217;re not much of their interest and that&#8217;s fine also.</p>
<p>And further more The National Black Justice Coalition I haven&#8217;t seen much they CONTRIBUTED to the Black Gay Community. I here them al the time going off at predominately white gay male discussion panels about BLACK HOMOPHOBIA as if no other race of people are, and so call chastising Black Gays over certain issues, etc. But never have I seen them do anything else. At least I haven&#8217;t seen not to say they have.</p>
<p>No it would be great to see Black Gay characters on TV and we have seen them from the professional, to the flamboyant, to the rugged masculine, to the effeminate, to the hard core thuggish bone type. Then again all it would get is lot of severe criticisms. For what it&#8217;s worth we all seen how most on here didn&#8217;t care for Noah&#8217;s Arc.</p>
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		<title>By: bb</title>
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		<dc:creator>bb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean I think we&#039;ve long since disproven the theory that the passage of Prop 8 was due to the Af-Am community (for instance, they voted slightly in favor of Prop 8, but not nearly as much as was projected or even initially reported, and they split pretty perfectly along age and religion lines, the way most other -- and larger -- communities did). But the point is very well taken, and I don&#039;t think it&#039;s just the Af-Am community that loses out when we don&#039;t have these images. Everyone makes assumptions when they have access to these images, and when they don&#039;t. When we don&#039;t have these images, white gay people can begin to see the Af-Am community as distinct, irrelevant, and even something to be feared, and, with only images of the DL, everyone can see black men as a group that engages in duplicitous and dangerous behavior. Not so good. Fortunately, as this post shows, people know better. Unfortunately, we aren&#039;t the ones with the money, but, at least, it&#039;s something we know should matter to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean I think we&#8217;ve long since disproven the theory that the passage of Prop 8 was due to the Af-Am community (for instance, they voted slightly in favor of Prop 8, but not nearly as much as was projected or even initially reported, and they split pretty perfectly along age and religion lines, the way most other &#8212; and larger &#8212; communities did). But the point is very well taken, and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s just the Af-Am community that loses out when we don&#8217;t have these images. Everyone makes assumptions when they have access to these images, and when they don&#8217;t. When we don&#8217;t have these images, white gay people can begin to see the Af-Am community as distinct, irrelevant, and even something to be feared, and, with only images of the DL, everyone can see black men as a group that engages in duplicitous and dangerous behavior. Not so good. Fortunately, as this post shows, people know better. Unfortunately, we aren&#8217;t the ones with the money, but, at least, it&#8217;s something we know should matter to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaroslaw</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/why-are-hollywoods-black-gay-characters-on-the-downlow-20090212/#comment-120525</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaroslaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noah&#039;s Arc wasn&#039;t all stereotypes.  And all the guys were HOT.</description>
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		<title>By: blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I recall, Underwood&#039;s character on &quot;In Treatment&quot; was not openly gay.  He played a fighter pilot who was married and had a son.  The character was separated from his wife and was rooming with his best friend and the friend&#039;s boyfriend.  During the season, Underwood&#039;s character had an affair with his shrink&#039;s female lover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I recall, Underwood&#8217;s character on &#8220;In Treatment&#8221; was not openly gay.  He played a fighter pilot who was married and had a son.  The character was separated from his wife and was rooming with his best friend and the friend&#8217;s boyfriend.  During the season, Underwood&#8217;s character had an affair with his shrink&#8217;s female lover.</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even more impressive would be a gay black characters that aren&#039;t complete cliches (be it DL, the gangsta bulldyke, or a showboating drag queen).  Someone empowering like the (hot) cop on 6ft Under would be awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even more impressive would be a gay black characters that aren&#8217;t complete cliches (be it DL, the gangsta bulldyke, or a showboating drag queen).  Someone empowering like the (hot) cop on 6ft Under would be awesome.</p>
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