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Why Doesn’t GLAAD Bust Porn Studios For Marketing ‘Trannies’ and ‘She-Males’?

Hey porn lovers! The Adult Video Network just named its nominees for Best Transsexual Performer. And though I prefer gay porn, the AVN Awards are like the porn Oscars and so I had to take a look. Most of the movie titles had words like “tranny” and “she-male” which made me wonder, Why is GLAAD not all over the trans-porn industry?

Oddly the AVNs lump lesbian and trans porn into the “straight” porn awards show, not their gay offshoot (the GAyVNs). That’s interesting because it suggests straight audiences are more comfortable with queer fantasies than one might think (however exploitative those fantasies may be). It’s also possible that gay porn gets its own “ghetto” because of the films’ smaller audience base and social sphere; incestuous studios tend to use a rotating stable of famous stars who travel between LA and NYC to appear in big studio productions.

Looking at the titles for Best Transexual Scene the words “tranny cock” and “she-male” pop up a lot. Titles like I Dream of Queenie, Rogue Adventures and Transsexual Prostitutes merely reinforce negative stereotypes of transgender people as drag queens and deceptive tricksters, and exploit the reality that some trans-people resort to prostitution because of un-accepting families and workplaces. (That phenomenon, of course, isn’t unique to trans porn.)

GLAAD would normally shoot off a press release attacking any other entertainment industry using such slurs, but Jarrett Barrios & Co. keep its hands off porn probably to maintain an aura of respectability — after all, who really wants to be the gay rights organization responsible for shaming the makers of America’s Next Top Tranny 2? (It could offend all their party sponsors, too.) Presumably trans-porn has a much smaller audience than other mainstream media, so going after such studios would be a waste of GLAAD’s resources.

Perhaps porn studios get a free pass for using GLAAD-stamped slurs like “tranny.” They market to a consumer whose primary concern, at least at the time of watching this smut, is getting off, and not getting too preoccupied with equitable media representation. As horrible as “tranny” and “she-male” are, the average horny dullard probably knows what those words mean better than “transgender.” It’s also hard to expect much from an industry that also propagates damaging stereotypes with “ethnic” titles like Black Thug Gangbang 4 and misogynist ones like Cum-Hungry Fuck Sluts, no matter how cum hungry some fuck sluts may be.

But porn remains an (occasionally) counter-cultural industry — one that thrives on novelty, sensationalism, and breaking taboo. The GAyVN award nominees over the past few years include Dominic Ford’s 3-D porn scenes, Bel-Ami’s twincest scene, and Raging Stallion’s To The Last Man, a violent award-winning western feature where most of the cowboys end up dead. (Sorry for the plot spoiler.)

Perhaps porn uses such slurs precisely because they’re offensive. They’re in your face and objectify trans-people as sexual objects in a raw and unavoidable way that has no use for political correctness or social nicety. The shock of the words adds to their appeal as taboo.

By:           Daniel Villarreal
On:           Dec 9, 2010
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  • 87 Comments
    • gina
      gina

      Angelina Valentina is not a trans woman. And I agree with you about the language used to describe porn.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 12:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      AVN is Adult Video Network… BUT! Is Gay Sex not Adult?

      We are isolated in a ghetto! Because suppression of male bisexuality (By gay guys also). Many hetero-guys would like to have sex with the guy sometimes..BUT it is a tabboo! And it is a reason and effect of homophobia.
      BUT female bisexuality => female homosexual behaviour is NOT tabboo.

      What about overcome double standarts?

      What about answer (bisex guys for straight girls as a new fetish)?

      What about totally boycott and charge hypocritical straight porn industry?
      (If they don’t stop to impose double standards.)

      Dec 9, 2010 at 12:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Devon
      Devon

      “Empowered Transgendered Individuals Engaging In Non-Heteronormative Sexual Intercourse To Stand Up Against The Oppressive Cisgender Patriarchy” just doesn’t have the same ring to it as “Cum Guzzling Tranny Butt Sluts 9: Revenge Of The Fallen.”

      Dec 9, 2010 at 1:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • j
      j

      I thought being objectified was the point of porn? :S

      Dec 9, 2010 at 1:39 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • hardvice
      hardvice

      They probably don’t bother because the trans porn studios wouldn’t care if they did. Despite being exhiled to the gay porn ghetto, most trans porn is actually marketed to and consumed by (primarily hetero) trans fetishists. It sells precisely because it’s trashy, objectifying, and offensive. They’re marketing trans people as a naughty taboo for bored straight people.

      Should GLAAD be all over their asses? Sure. Would it do any good? Of course not.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 1:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mike in Asheville
      Mike in Asheville

      @No. 2 Max Campbell

      Max, go shoot off a load or two, just Google “bihardcoreporn” and you’ll find a web site whose home page alone features some 300+ porn video featuring guys who are getting off eachother and with girls, because, damn boy, you are so riled up not getting any boy-boy action with boy-girl action and girl-girl action, your brain can’t think straight!

      ***************

      Homophobia existed a very very long time before porn videos. Centuries before.

      ***************

      And what is the point of gays boycotting straight porn? Duh? Gays don’t buy straight porn, we buy gay porn; just as straights don’t buy gay porn. What would be the point purchasing something you are not interested in.

      ***************

      Max, you and that idiot Jason think porn is the cause of homophobia???? Crazy!

      Try a few thousand years of religious piety, century’s of Bibles instructing good loving Christians and Korans telling the faithful to stone us queers to death. That is the cause of homophobia; not the vast vast vast majority of porn videos that show “live and let live” sex lives.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 2:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • hardvice
      hardvice

      There’s also the sad reality of the fact that trans porn, as dehumanizing as it is, provides a lot of young transwomen—many of whom face considerable employment discrimination—with a way to make a lot of money quickly. I know a number of women who’ve used porn as a means to pay for piecemeal surgeries they otherwise wouldn’t be able to afford.

      Until we address the problems of workplace discrimination and insurance coverage for transitioning, trans porn, no matter how vilely it’s marketed, is going to remain an important part of many young transwomen’s reality.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 2:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • hardvice
      hardvice

      @Mike in Asheville: After pedaling porn for a couple years, I can tell you that yes, gay people buy straight porn, and straight people buy gay porn.

      I’ve had gay guys tell me they prefer straight porn because “the guys are hotter”. I’ve had straight guys tell me they buy gay porn because their girlfriends get into it more. I’ve had lesbians tell me they buy gay male porn because most lesbian porn is made for straight men.

      And then I’ve had lots of customers who stick to their usual preference…except that one time.

      I’ve mostly just learned not to ask questions about who’s into what and why.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 2:10 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • EdWoody
      EdWoody

      GLAAD doesn’t complain because expectations are not high for the porn industry anyway. I remember when they managed to get “Nappy Headed Hos: The Movie” onto shelves within two weeks of that particular scandal.

      As for separating out all-male porn into its own awards show but embracing all-female and transsexual porn, it’s all the usual cliche about Straight Male Fantasy. They can handle two girls because they can imagine themselves in between them, and they can handle chicks-with-dicks because it allows them to indulge the fact that they like to look at other penises without having to look at men. Two actual men together, of course, squicks them out.

      And the industry itself is just as much to blame, first of all for accepting and tacitly approving exactly those cliches, and secondly because of the still-remaining HIV paranoia. Any gay-for-pay or bisexual man who attempts to make a career in straight and gay porn is seen as very much suspect from the straight side.

      It was a massive coup when two males – Ryan Driller aka Jeremy Bilding, and Wolf Hudson, who had both made their names in gay porn before moving onto the straight side – were nominated for awards at this year’s straight AVNs. It’s taken till 2011 for this to be even considered as a option. That shows you just how conservative the straight porn industry is, ironically.

      And it was shown again with this whole Patient Zeta thing – gay sets are the ones where they actually use protection, and yet we’re the ones being blamed for infecting this poor innocent straight boy with HIV and shutting down the entire straight porn industry in a panic. It’s pathetic really.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 2:16 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      Mike in Asheville, I think you are not gay-guy OR stupid conformist pig!!!

      I said “it is a reason and effect of homophobia.”

      Do you understand, idiot?!!!

      Yes! With arrival of the Christian era the homophobia has begun. I know it. But in Antiguity all guys were bi and homophobia wasn’t.
      And now necessary to advance male bisexuality! Necessary to overcome double standarts. Because pornography has enormous influence on mass consciousness.

      Yes, bi porn is exist already! But this genre is necessary for developing!!! Because fake female bisexuality (from porn) make free female homosexual behaviour!

      Also I said “What about answer (bisex guys for straight girls as a new fetish)?” … 30% of women watching porn.

      Buy points, bitch! Or buy a brain!

      Disgusting hypocritical pig!!!

      Dec 9, 2010 at 2:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • gina
      gina

      I think it’s interesting how a post which is overwhelmingly about how porn labels trans women becomes has become morphed into a thread mostly about gay porn.

      Just a reminder that the vast majority of trans woman porn comes from 3rd world countries like Brazil and Thailand, but the distribution (including marketing and naming of it) is largely controlled by non-gay identified men in the US. And yes, the majority of trans women seen in ‘shemale’ porn are from countries where there are few economic or educational options for them (and, in the case of Brazil, one of the highest murder rates in the world for any group). In ‘shemale’ porn way more than most porn, you’re seeing participants who are really economically and socially forced into the porn world for survival.

      Porn with trans women, while exiled from ‘mainstream’ porn in much the same way as gay porn is, isn’t really part of the gay porn world at all. And there are a lot of ‘straight’ porn compilation sites which also include ‘shemale’ porn, albeit, usually in a not-too-noticeable location lest the straight men happen upon it and get an upset tummy or unpleasant, inexplicable boner.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 3:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Kev C
      Kev C

      Lesbian and trans porn has a male audience that identify as straight, just as gay male porn has an audience, albeit smaller, of straight women. If more straight women bought gay porn, the industry should include it. Socially correct language doesn’t arouse hetero men and doesn’t sell product. And the straight porn industry does employ Ls and Ts.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 3:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason

      The straight porn industry consists of a very disgusting bunch of sleazy straight guys and their bisexual female enablers. These men and women are exceptionally homophobic towards the concept of male-male sexuality.

      AVN is a repulsive organization which promotes this homophobic double standard in both its promotion of porn and in the content of its main awards show.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 4:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dollie
      Dollie

      @hardvice: “I’ve had lesbians tell me they buy gay male porn because most lesbian porn is made for straight men.”

      So funny! I did that while living in a hick town a couple years back (definitely no feminist and queer smut stores there!). Didn’t know that was so common….

      Dec 9, 2010 at 4:02 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dollie
      Dollie

      @jason: There you are!! Missed you, buddy!

      Dec 9, 2010 at 4:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason

      A straight-oriented guy is not defined by his attraction to lesbians. By definition, a straight-oriented guy is attracted to women. The attraction to lesbians is a fetish, not an orientation. Therefore, it is completely wrong to claim that an attraction to lesbians means you’re straight.

      The danger of straight porn is that it classifies lesbianism as straight. This divides the two homosexualities (female and male), bringing the female homosexuality camp under the “straight male-approved” umbrella. It’s a devious form of deception and distortion. It also serves to segregate and marginalize male-male sexuality.

      We need to conduct a culture war against the straight porn industry. This industry needs to be defeated if we are ever going to achieve equal rights.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 4:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      Dollie, shut up!

      Jason, totally agree!

      Dec 9, 2010 at 4:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Teshub
      Teshub

      Most lesbian women are living under the soft oppression of a subculture dominated by gay MEN. Straight males have no problem making allies with lesbians, they are still women and attractive to them. On the same token, some trannies are feminine enough to be accepted.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 5:31 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • missanthrope
      missanthrope

      Wow, how in the hell did a story about trans porn and derogitory words for trans women turn in to a misogynistic discussion about how women in porn are somehow oppressing gay men. You guys just can’t stand the spotlight not being on you for one minute can you? Only queerty commenters can accomplish such a feat.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 5:46 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      missanthrope, who are you? Lesbian? “Bisexual” woman? Or stupid conformist fag?

      That bisexual double standards suit for you. it is obviously.

      You don’t want to listen truth?!! Ha-ha!!!)))))

      On queerty.com democratic rules. Do you know what is this, cowardly pig?!!!

      Shut your hypocritical mouth, crap!

      Go Jason! In every your comment absolute truth !!!

      Dec 9, 2010 at 6:09 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SteveAtlanta
      SteveAtlanta

      Our enemies are the STRAIGHT porn industry. They are the most homophobic, filthy, ignorant beings. That goes for straight porn producers, straight porn directors, and especially straight porn actors who view gay sex as an unnatural act. Straight porn should never ever be applauded or ecnouraged by us…we should call out porn studios for their homophobia period.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 6:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • SteveAtlanta
      SteveAtlanta

      @Teshub: Oh is that so? I’m around straight men ALL the time. 20 straight cousins, partners family is filled with straight men and my job of 20 years entails *constant* interaction with straight men and if I had a dollar for everytime I’ve heard every single straight men I’ve known well tell me “there is no such thing as a lesbian, just a bitter, jaded woman who needs to get f*cked good by a man”
      Don’t kid yourself into believing straight men actually like lesbians, they just like the challenge, fetish, and idea of converting. And butch lesbians? forgetaboutit!!!

      Dec 9, 2010 at 6:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • missanthrope
      missanthrope

      @Max Campbell:

      Sorry, I don’t argue with children. Come back when grow some pubes sonny.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 7:32 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Syl
      Syl

      @hardvice: This. People associate transsexuality with prostitution, porn, and sex in general. They think that they’re all deviant freaks in it as part of some fetish, and that leaves lots of young women-who’re often ostracized from their families and friends-with no other options. It’s a self-perpetuating cycle that needs to be broken.

      It’s gotten to the point where I can’t really enjoy real porn. I just think “There’s no amount of money I’d be okay being paid for that,” and then feel awful for the people so abused or desperate that their dignity is worth so little they’re okay with being humiliated on screen for the amusement of jack-offs everywhere. With erotic artwork I can justify it by reminding myself no one’s getting fucked, I’m not sponsoring the debasement of human beings, just contributing to hard-working, under-paid animators and seiyuu. With actual couple videos, it’s a look into an actual couple’s love.

      @hardvice: Everyone watches everyone’s porn. Straight girls like man-on-man gay porn for the same reason guys like “lesbian” porn: two times the amount of hot male bodies, no girls there to make them feel jealous or envious (or attracted and confused by such feelings!). It’s fantasy, a fetish.

      Also, not to segue, but here’s my thoughts on mainstream “lesbian” porn: the reason it’s not segregated to it’s own little show is because A) unlike gay porn, where a large number of the actors are gay or bi, most “lesbians” in porn are bored, silicone and saline sluts doing it for money, and B) again, unlike gay porn, which is marketed at gays primarily, “lesbian” porn is marketed primarily to straight men. Srsly, both girls will always be femme, shaved, busty and have long hair, and plus if they’re gonna fake they’re going to have to convince women who experience the female orgasm first-hand. So, in short, it’s included at the main event because 99% of it features the same actresses as the straight movies, and 99% of it is made for and watched by the same straight male audience.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 10:01 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • missanthrope
      missanthrope [Different person #1 using similar name]

      “@Syl:

      “It’s gotten to the point where I can’t really enjoy real porn. I just think “There’s no amount of money I’d be okay being paid for that,” and then feel awful for the people so abused or desperate that their dignity is worth so little they’re okay with being humiliated on screen for the amusement of jack-offs everywhere.”

      I’ve know people who have done porn. They are not the abused, desperate, undignified people you assume them to be. They’re people just like you or me, some have their problems and others are some of the most self-assured, fierce people I’ve ever meant.

      The mainstream porn industry does have its problems, mainly that it’s in control of mainly white straight men who produce a lot of crap that is exploitative to all minorities. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that porn is bad.

      There is a lot of none-exploitative porn being made out there if you look for it. I’d recommend “Doing it ourselves”, which was produced by and starred trans women who were sick of all of the exploitative stuff, so they made their own. And of course their is “On our backs” which is made for and by lesbians. And there are plenty of gay men doing porn for other gay men out there.

      For LGBT site queerty sure does have a lot of slut-shaming, judgment and assumptions making the rounds here.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 10:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dollie
      Dollie

      @missanthrope: Agreed 115%! There are many, many wonderful porn production companies that treat their performers (and audiences) with respect. Reel Queer is one of my faves, but there are countless others.
      But anyone can do as they please. If somebody desires to star in or work on exploitive and degrading films, that’s their prerogative. If I don’t like it, I don’t financially back it.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 10:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Sammy
      Sammy

      If GLAAD is going to interrupt its awards dinners and start “busting” people for using slurs, then let them bust all the people who refer to gay men and lesbians as “LGBT” whether they wish to be called that or not. I am not a tranny and it is an attack on my identity and my autonomy to call me LGBT against my will.

      If trannies had any sense, which they don’t, they would fully support the tranny porn industry, since the actors in those films are the only good looking ones around.

      Dec 9, 2010 at 10:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      missanthrope, shut up, crap!

      Dec 10, 2010 at 7:31 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      AVN it should be renamed into “Video Network for heterosexual men”. They have no right to be called as Adult!

      Dec 10, 2010 at 7:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason

      SteveAtlanta,

      I totally agree with you. It’s amazing that there are some in the GLBT community who think porn is a sign of social progress. Far from it. Porn – with its bisexual double standard – is a sign of going backward.

      The vile female prostitutes who make straight porn movies are renowned for their homophobic attitudes to male-male sexuality. They often refuse to work with men who are bisexual. And yet here they are promoting and glamorizing their straight male-serving bisexuality. Whores, the lot of them.

      Dec 10, 2010 at 8:13 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 2 cents
      2 cents

      @missanthrope:
      Oh dear, where to get started? If only your picture of straight porn was accurate. First and foremost, as it concerns us, straight porn is about the most homophobic institute behind organized religions. I speak from knowledge, experience and facts Most straight entertainers don’t have disdain but true passionate HATE for gays. Did you know there is a movement to target any straight porn male actors who have ever had sex with a man (on camera or off) and there are sites on the net devoted to witchunts to ensure these men don’t ever work in the industry? Do you know the backlash against those who “crossover” do you know what bisexual men are called by straight porn actors (mope aids) do you know the numerous straight porn message boards and forums who’s members virtually make a living off of saying the most horrible, vile things regarding gay male performers or anyone who would actually dare do gay/bi porn? They call them walking aids patients.
      I distinctly remember being on a shoot and the producer and entire crew having an hour long conversation on the “fact” that in their minds, there has never been a real “dyke” on a porn set and no “dyke” would ever be welcomed on a porn set. Only hot chicks who like girl on girl action. That’s the straight porn for ya. If only I had the time to sit and recollect every encounter for you. Trust me when I say in my 8 year run working behind the scenes, based on what I heard from the hetro porn industry, I’d be willing to bet the Westboro Church in Kansas would be more welcoming toward the idea of having a gay men who actively has gay sex be in their presence.
      Straight porn is flawed, mainly due to it’s delusion in adopting a morality clause when it comes to gay sex. In their minds, what they’re doing is nature, entertainers, course of nature everyone can enjoy. What gays do is freaks of nature who are ruining the industry for them and need to be kept as far away as possible.
      Misguided self esteem was so sad to watch.
      (and the drug use on thier end? ohhh…the drug use! It was awful.)

      Dec 10, 2010 at 8:13 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DoubleDiorGuy
      DoubleDiorGuy

      All whom who support the straight porn industry might want to go on the twitter accounts of Arosanoxxx and alia_janine (two established straight porn stars) and go back to their exchange on October 12-14 where one essentially calls for the outting of all bisexual male performers asking them to not “double dip” because Aids is a gay disease gay sex is a risky practice that performers should not exercise on or off camera. alia twitter confirmed it, constantly posting links to hiv rates amongst homosexuals verses hetrosexuals, while both maintain that male bisexuality is a leading contributing factor in HIV in porn. Oh, and alia quoting TI the rapper (can’t remember the exact quote but it was something along the lines of) you may get richer in money but you are getting poorer in morals. Morality folks, after all, who better to ask than PORN STARS.

      Dec 10, 2010 at 8:22 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • geri
      geri

      Bloody stupid article that thinks it’s being oh so frightfully PC – about porn of all things.

      Perhaps you’d like to attack http://crashpadseries.com/ for being happy and proud to be nominated for AVN’s best alternative website 2011 award? That’s an AVN award, not Gay AVN award.

      And perhaps you’d like to bait them for not being proper dykes because you think dyke should mean exclusively 100% lesbian?

      Or perhaps you’d like to show us how PC you really are and attack GAY AVN for not even having a Best Trans Performer of the Year Award? I mean they could have one and give it to Buck Angel every year couldn’t they.

      And lastly, why don’t you attack Buck Angel himself for making a porn videos with a couple of self-identified shemales?

      Dec 10, 2010 at 8:28 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mike in Asheville
      Mike in Asheville

      @Sammy: Wow, what a little little person you are.

      As a member of a beleaguered sexual minority harassed by bullies and bigots, and you think its acceptable to turnaround and harass other members of other sexual minorities with mean-spirited bullying of your own.

      And just how is referring to the collective LGBT community a slur to gays and lesbians? I am not lesbian, trans or bi — but my right to enjoy my “life, liberty and pursuit of happiness” is as thwarted as LBTs. Are you so small minded you can’t separate your being gay when the distinction is appropriate from LBTs?

      Dec 10, 2010 at 9:28 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Daez
      Daez

      @Mike in Asheville: Umm, many gays DO buy straight porn (see Rocco Sigfredi and Peter North). If the guys are hot the gays will buy.

      Many “straight” people also buy gay porn because of their curiosity. Sexuality in its true form is fluid not rigid, and just because you identify as gay or straight doesn’t mean you never wondered or saw someone outside of your comfort zone that you were extremely attracted to.

      Dec 10, 2010 at 10:11 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Daez
      Daez

      @Max Campbell: You could argue that porn made female to female sexual contact more appropriate or you could realize a few things instead:

      1) The Bible never mentions lesbians (nor does the Koran).
      2) Its hard to show “weakness” when you are already considered weak.
      3) The patriarchal society always has put women under men. There needs, wants and desires come second. If a guy gets turned on by having more than one woman at a time then its seen as ok, and that is the true fantasy that porn appeals to. Its not about lesbians its about the man getting to stick is dick in one of them.

      Dec 10, 2010 at 10:16 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      Daez,

      Really?!!))))))))

      For what to say what is obvious?! It is more important to recognize that this hypocrisy which segregates and humiliates gay guys. And to think over that as this situation to change!

      Dec 10, 2010 at 10:27 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      1. To offer bisex guys for straight girls as a new fetish. 30% of women watching porn regularly. It will give to us carte blanche on publicity and make male-male sexuality by a mainstream part.

      2. totally boycott and charge hypocritical straight porn industry
      (If they don’t stop to impose double standards.)

      3. AVN it should be renamed into “Video Network for heterosexual men”. They have no right to be called as Adult!

      4. To erase sides between directions in a porn. To deprive “straight” porn industry of the mainstream status.

      Dec 10, 2010 at 10:35 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      “30% of women watching porn regularly.”…

      it is potential money also!

      Dec 10, 2010 at 11:42 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • missanthrope
      missanthrope [Different person #2 using similar name]

      @2 cents:

      Please point out the sentence where I supported the straight porn industry. I did say that it was exploitative as hell.

      You’re arguing against a view I never put forward, I never said that mainstream straight porn was a step forward in social progress nor did I say it was a progressive atmosphere.

      I did say that there are people in the porn industry (whom I have known) who are not the morally corrupt trainwrecks that Syl described. I am supportive of independent porn producers who make queer porn for the consumption of actual queer people and I hold that not all porn is bad. That does not equate support for the mainstream straight porn industry and it’s homophobia.

      Please read my posts more carefully before responding.

      Dec 10, 2010 at 2:50 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason

      The straight porn industry is vile and homophobic.

      Dec 10, 2010 at 3:00 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jorge
      Jorge

      @Mike in Asheville: I agree with Sammy. As for your rebuttal of him, there is no “collective LGBT community”. It doesn’t exist. It never existed. It was invented by people who feel that their political agenda is best served by having gay people consider themselves forever marginalized and in conflict with gender norms. As Orwell taught, if you change words, you can change thinking. Fortunately, the inventors of “LGBT” don’t have an army of thought police to enforce their lies.

      Dec 10, 2010 at 3:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Mike in Asheville
      Mike in Asheville

      @Jorge: What petty and small mindedness you and Sammy embrace. You are just like homophobes who can’t get it through their bigot filled brain cells that not all men are into women nor women into men — in your case you can’t get it through your thick headedness that there are some who are indeed born with gender identity confusion. And you and Sammy, like homophobes against gays, smear the very real and genuine feelings and desires that they have.

      Does it make you feel better, a little bigger, beating up someone who simply wants to live their life their way?

      *************

      I attended my first pride parade in 1980; the parade was led by Dykes on Bikes, followed by gay groups, bi groups, and transgender groups. To great cheers and applause, the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence marched by — men in nun’s habits. A decade earlier, when Judy Garland died,it was cross-dressing men, many mimicing Garland, who engaged in the first riot supporting gay rights, now known as the Stonewall Riots. The LGBT community has a long hard fought history. Your denial does not erase the truth.

      *************

      The common socio-political goals of LGBTs have nothing to do with your sexual identity, you can be gay without having your gayness diminished by lesbians locking lips, bi guys and gals all over other guys and gals, or trans enjoying their freedom to be the man or woman they feel they are.

      In the battle for marriage equality, our side commonly calls out “how does two men or two women being married effect a man and woman from wanting to be married? How does same-sex marriage hurt traditional marriage?

      Well, how does a transgendered harm you?

      Dec 10, 2010 at 5:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason

      The problem with the male side of the gay community is that it has become a sex cult. A community based on a sex act is what I call it. As such, it can never survive. No community based on sexual promiscuity has ever survived longer than a few decades. I’m predicting that the GLBT community will only last as long as another 10 or 20 years.

      Sexual promiscuity leads to venereal diseases and diffuses social anger. That’s why, in our current state, we can only muster a few hundred people to attend protest marches in support of marriage equality or DADT repeal. Think about it. Most gay men would much rather plan for the weekend’s sexual activities, not to mention drug purchases or dance parties.

      Because we have descended into the sexual cesspool, we tend to be accepting of porn even if it is extremely homophobic, such as is the straight porn industry. We’ve basically embraced the homophobic double standard of straight porn. Many in the gay male community think it’s cool that straight porn portrays lesbianism in a straight male-appeasing way. We don’t question it. We accept it.

      Because of this, we’re sowing the seeds of our own destruction.

      Dec 10, 2010 at 5:43 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • randy
      randy

      @jason: You really are one fucked-up piece of work!

      Dec 10, 2010 at 6:03 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      Randy, you are really stupid conformist!

      Jason, totally agree!!

      Stop hypocrisy!!

      Dec 10, 2010 at 6:44 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      The straight porn industry is a one of most important reasons of our discrimination, not-adoption. “Straight” porn says that “male-female and female-female is a normal, but male-male is NOT normal”!!! It is a very dangerous mass consciousness paradigm.We are isolated in a ghetto. So…isn’t?!!

      Fuck!!!! I want to cry! What words to find else that you have understood it?! …

      For the decision of gay-guys problems special actions are necessary.It is necessary to do something for the present not late! Look comment # 35.

      They never will accept gay-guys until they will test hatred to a gay sensuality. But hetero-girls can give carte blanche on publicity to us. Male-male sensuality should be a mainstream! And than homophobia will disappear. It more than logically!

      Dec 10, 2010 at 7:15 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • geri
      geri

      My comment from yesterday is still awaiting moderation because it has a live link in it. So here it is again without the live link.

      Bloody stupid article that thinks it’s being oh so frightfully PC – about porn of all things.

      Perhaps you’d like to attack crashpadseries dot com for being happy and proud to be nominated for AVN’s best alternative website 2011 award? That’s an AVN award, not Gay AVN award.

      And perhaps you’d like to bait them for not being proper dykes because you think “dyke” should mean exclusively 100% lesbian?

      Or perhaps you’d like to show us how PC you really are and attack GAY AVN for not even having a Best Trans Performer of the Year Award? I mean they could have one and give it to Buck Angel every year couldn’t they.

      And lastly, why don’t you attack Buck Angel himself for making a porn videos with a couple of self-identified shemales?

      That’s what I said yesterday.

      Now I’d like to add that you uptight souls should also check out a couple more websites called, Trannywood Pictures, and Queer Porn TV – just google them.

      Trannywood is owned an operated by a queer transman and features trans bois and men who like men.

      And Queer Porn TV is a brand new site started by a couple of queer dykes. That’s queer dykes, not lesbian dykes.

      Here’s a quote from their blog:

      “QPTV sees “Queer” is a catch-all term for non-normative sexual identity, acts, or desires. It’s very important to note that anything can be queer in the right light.

      Queer as a term emerged in the cultural lexicon as a slur towards homosexuals, and yes, it’s most functional as a description of gay sex and sexuality. However, we at QPTV (and we are not alone) believe that the future of sex positivity is located in a movement away from seperatism, because inverting oppression is the same as reinforcing it.

      Part of the prerogative of QPTV is to create subversive Queer Porn Stars in an effort to queer (yup, it’s a verb too motherfuckers) celebrity culture and its tired, limiting representation of beauty and glamour.

      We think that Queer as an inclusive identity is an excellent attitude. As a litmus test, if it makes you feel radical, it’s probably queer.”

      There are people who are up for 2011 AVN awards who are on QPTV and Crash Pad. AND GUESS WHAT JASON, THEY ARE NOT ALL BISEXUAL WOMEN.

      Dec 11, 2010 at 6:32 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Baise
      Baise

      @Sammy: Your a disgusting hypocrite.

      Dec 11, 2010 at 1:34 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      http://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=157629/forum_id=1/cat_id=1/157629.htm

      My question!

      Dec 11, 2010 at 4:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      Greetings from Europe.

      I would like to ask you a few questions.

      First and most important one – Why AVN is so homophobic? Why did they make this ridiculous segregation of gay and a bi porn from main awards? Isn’t gay-sex adult enough?

      It appears to me that «straight» porn industry imposes double standards on bisexuality and homophobia. «Straight» porn industry segregates and humiliates gay and bi guys and one of the obvious examples is creation of the ghetto as GayVN.

      My friends, who are STRAIGHT girls, usually are watching only gay and bi porn. Because there are so many sexy guys there!
      Could somebody tell me why the straight-porn doesn’t consider opinion of straight-girls?
      Back to double standards, why female homosexual scenes are presented in straight-porn, but male homosexual scenes aren’t presented?!
      Then let this genre be renamed to “Porn for straight men”. As of now this genre represents only male heterosexual interests.

      Another question, why some envious “bisexual-women-for-pay” accuse gay porn performers that they spread AIDS? In most of gay movies actors use condoms. Probably “bisexual-women-for-pay” spread AIDS!?

      Did anybody hear about Sigmund Freud? He has told that all people are born bisexual. Then why only women have right to be bisexual?

      Why clever Greeks and Romans were bisexual and appreciated beautiful male body, but now men suppress their homoerotism and transform it to a homophobia.

      What is the main reason for that? The crapping collection of fairy tales called Bible or hypocritical homophobic influence of “straight” porn industry?

      Dec 11, 2010 at 4:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason

      Max Campbell,

      Thank you for bringing this up. It’s important to attack porn, particularly the straight porn industry. The GLBT community in America has failed to take up the cause, partly because it doesn’t want to offend anything that offends the religious Right.

      This form of political correctness will eventually destroy the American GLBT community.

      Dec 11, 2010 at 5:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      You are welcome)) And many my friends here totally agree with me.

      But it has low effect. We can only speak. People who can do something are necessary!!! And they need to explain this problem. They don’t want to see… All see this hypocrisy, but many of them don’t want to discuss problem. I think it because mechanisms of psychological protection.

      Dec 11, 2010 at 5:35 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      Jason,

      maxcampbell2011@gmail.com

      Dec 11, 2010 at 5:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Soupy
      Soupy

      In my opinion, if you are going to attack the porn industry, it’s all in or out. No pun intended. And no gay porn for you.

      Dec 11, 2010 at 5:41 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      I am not going to attack anybody, but if lesbi-porn a mainstream part, gay porn should be a mainstream part too. (Bisexual guys for heterosexual girls!)
      And then we will receive carte blanche on publicity! Then double standards and a homophobia will disappear.

      Dec 11, 2010 at 5:47 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason

      Soupy,

      I suppose the greatest danger of straight porn is in the marketing. Straight porn markets the bisexual double standard, thus influencing the public’s perceptions of human sexuality in a way which runs counter to the interests of GLBT people. It’s a two-gender paradigm in which same-sex sexuality is embraced only if it’s female.

      Gay male porn is a one-gender paradigm in which there is no double standard.

      Dec 11, 2010 at 6:55 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • kyals84
      kyals84

      You can’t rly control the porn industry they thrive on objectifying people and will continue to do so.

      The term ‘shemale’ was also solely created by the porn industry initially and *then* used by outside forces. They are essentially just continuing what they have always done…

      Of course not a fan of it but whatever. One plus side I’ve found is actually handy: If you meet a someone on say.. a dating site and he uses terms like shemale it is clear he only knows of trans people from watching porn and I don’t rly have interest in that, would just auto block them, problem solved. :P

      As a whole I must say I rarely if at all ever see the word shemale used now. Some people will try to toss it out in a goal to be hateful when saying a lot of hateful stuff but it is gone from most common vocab people use. Tranny on the other hand.. well that’s been discussed plenty in the past. Anyone who uses it is no friend of mine, ever.

      Anyways not getting involved in arguments on terminology, and especially the porn industry.. no one ever agrees :P

      Dec 12, 2010 at 8:51 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      My comment from the other day is still awaiting moderation because it has a live link in it and/or couldn’t login as Geri. So here they are again without the live link.

      Bloody stupid article that thinks it’s being oh so frightfully PC – about porn of all things.

      Perhaps you’d like to attack crashpadseries dot com for being happy and proud to be nominated for AVN’s best alternative website 2011 award? That’s an AVN award, not Gay AVN award.

      And perhaps you’d like to bait them for not being proper dykes because you think “dyke” should mean exclusively 100% lesbian?

      Or perhaps you’d like to show us how PC you really are and attack GAY AVN for not even having a Best Trans Performer of the Year Award? I mean they could have one and give it to Buck Angel every year couldn’t they.

      Then why don’t you attack Buck Angel himself for making a porn videos with a couple of self-identified shemales?

      I suggest some of you uptight souls should also check out a couple more websites called, Trannywood Pictures, and Queer Porn TV – just google them.

      Trannywood is owned an operated by a queer transman and features trans bois and men who like men.

      And Queer Porn TV is a brand new site started by a couple of queer dykes. That’s queer dykes, not lesbian dykes.

      Here’s a quote from their blog:

      “QPTV sees “Queer” is a catch-all term for non-normative sexual identity, acts, or desires. It’s very important to note that anything can be queer in the right light.

      Queer as a term emerged in the cultural lexicon as a slur towards homosexuals, and yes, it’s most functional as a description of gay sex and sexuality. However, we at QPTV (and we are not alone) believe that the future of sex positivity is located in a movement away from seperatism, because inverting oppression is the same as reinforcing it.

      Part of the prerogative of QPTV is to create subversive Queer Porn Stars in an effort to queer (yup, it’s a verb too motherfuckers) celebrity culture and its tired, limiting representation of beauty and glamour.

      We think that Queer as an inclusive identity is an excellent attitude. As a litmus test, if it makes you feel radical, it’s probably queer.”

      There are people who are up for 2011 AVN awards who are on QPTV and Crash Pad. AND GUESS WHAT JASON, THEY ARE NOT ALL BISEXUAL WOMEN – they’re not even all women.

      There’s a very good chance that at least one lesbian identified woman will win an AVN 2011 award and that a queer identified bisexual man will as well. That’s an AVN 2011 award – not a Gay AVN award.

      Read more: http://www.queerty.com/why-doesnt-glaad-bust-porn-studios-for-marketing-trannies-and-she-males-20101209/#ixzz17zzdg2Yl

      Dec 13, 2010 at 8:48 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @jason:
      Yeah Jason of course the straight porn industry as represented by AVN is really homophobic, that must be why Gay AVN doesn’t even have its own website domain – it’s just a subdomain of AVN dot com that is easily accessible from AVN’s homepage. That’s some really seperatist shit going on there I must say …

      Trust you to get hung-up on the homophobia of a small minority of people in the “straight” porn industry and ignore all the people who aren’t gay in the Adult Industry who opposed PROP 8.

      Dec 13, 2010 at 9:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Soupy
      Soupy

      No, sorry Jason, no porn of any kind for you. Gay porn promotes stereotypes that are limiting and dehumanizing to the LGBT community.

      Dec 13, 2010 at 9:10 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      This is disgusting. I’m not being allowed to say what I have to say and what I have to say is really important.

      Dec 13, 2010 at 9:14 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      «straight» porn industry imposes double standards on bisexuality and homophobia. «Straight» porn industry segregates and humiliates gay and bi guys and one of the obvious examples is creation of the ghetto as GayVN.

      Dec 13, 2010 at 1:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      These standarts block male homoerotism(48% by A.Kinsey researches) and transform it to a homophobia.

      Then let this genre be renamed to “Porn for straight men”. This genre represents only male heterosexual interests. Not Adult!

      Homophobia is an artificial phenomenon. From the history we know a lot of civilizations (until Christianity and Islam) where male bisexuality was a norm.
      Psychologists often will say that aggressive homophobia is because of the suppression of the own homoerotism. And I know many hetero-guys who drink alcohol and offer sex to gay-guys after that))))

      Therefore everything that you write is ambiguously. And now porn continues to cultivate this stigmatisation.

      GayVN as the Jewish ghettoes in nazi Germany and as a policy of a racial segregation in the USA (until 1964) and South Africa (until 1994). White people didn’t want that black people were with them in cafe, schools… It is hate!

      Dec 13, 2010 at 1:13 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      I see my main comment still hasn’t been moderated so it can be viewed.

      Meanwhile Jason and Max Cambell are allowed to post their extremist rubbish.

      Queer identified, cisgendered male, porn star Mikey Mod is a 2011 AVN Award Nominee for Best Supporting Actor. That’s an AVN Award, not a Gay AVN Award.

      You can see him on Heavenly Spire, Crash Pad Series, Queer Porn TV, No Fauxxx – and TS Seduction. Yep, he’s really pandering to the “homophobic straight male” porn audience doing stuff like that…..

      Oh and he’s a P O C as well. Hope he wins.

      I guess Jason will never go to the Feminist Porn Awards – which is inclusive of straight, lesbian, dyke, queer, bisexual, gay and trans people and porn. I mean there will be bi (and lesbian) women there winning awards who’ve also won, or at least been nominated for, AVN awards.

      Dec 14, 2010 at 8:01 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      Angelina Valentine, the brunette in the picture above is not a transwoman – or “trans-star”. She is a female – a cisgendered woman – a bio-woman. She was the first female to have sex with Kimber James in a porn scene.

      Kimber James won the Transsexual Performer of the Year award at AVN2010. That’s “Transsexual Performer of the Year”, not shemale performer or tranny performer.

      Dec 14, 2010 at 8:17 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      Your comment is awaiting moderation. Our system might have erroneously auto-flagged your comment as spam; if so, we’ll fix it quickly. Or maybe you previously abused your commenting privileges, violated our Comments Policy, included a link to a known SPAM/harmful site, posted comments that detracted from the conversation, or have been repeatedly flagged by other users for being a jerk — in which case we won’t publish your comment.

      Read more: http://www.queerty.com/why-doesnt-glaad-bust-porn-studios-for-marketing-trannies-and-she-males-20101209/#ixzz185kddUyK

      Thanks so much. More censorship.

      I’m really get fed up with this website.

      Dec 14, 2010 at 8:19 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      GeriHew,

      Your conformist delirium is a rubbish!

      Why female homosexual behaviour is accepted, but male homosexual not accepted? why only women have right to be bisexual?

      «straight» porn industry imposes double standards on bisexuality and homophobia. This industry totally ignores female heterosexual interests. Many girls like male-male sensuality!
      «Straight» porn industry segregates and humiliates gay and bi guys and one of the obvious examples is creation of the ghetto as GayVN.

      AVN continues segregation and marginalization of gay\bi guys. It is a racist policy.

      It is cause and effect of a homophobia.

      Dec 14, 2010 at 11:56 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      I am not against pseudo-lesbian scenes in “straight” porn. I am against hypocrisy! I am against segregation, marginaluzation gay male sexuality from human sexuality.

      Is this reason of homophobia, not-adoption. It is obvious.

      Dec 14, 2010 at 12:38 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @Max Campbell: Most of what I’ve said in this thread still cannot be seen because it hasn’t been moderated. So you don’t know the half of what I’ve said. I don’t know if you will even get to see this post – ever Max.

      Queer men – gay and bi – are not a race apart from other men. I find that to be a very bigotted suggestion.

      As to “female heterosexual interest” I can assure you that not all women who “enjoy male-male sensuality” in porn are straight or even straight and bisexual. There are a lot of lesbians who enjoy gay man porn. I don’t know of any straight women who’ve directed male-male porn scenes. There are several queer women who have. Mr Pam is the best known – she is bisexual and she only directs gay male porn. There are also a lot of straight women who enjoy lesbian porn.

      If you go to the avn website and click on the gay tab it takes you to the gay avn subdomain. If you then type bisexual in the search box it takes you back to the avn main domain to a section where the emphasis is on bisexual men and bisexual porn. It is not a small section – there are well are over 700 posts in it ranging over 37 webpages as of now.

      I don’t deny there is segregation in the adult business, of course there is. However it is nowhere near as extreme, homophobic or hateful, or clear cut between straight vs gay as you & Jason claim. And the seperation is breaking down a lot now – I think at least partly because more and more women are producing and directing porn. And a significant amount of porn directed by women is to be found in the AVN 2011 awards list of nominations btw.

      Dec 16, 2010 at 9:15 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      Oh I see some of my posts have made it through moderation.

      Please don’t forget to pass the one about the fact that Angelina Valentine is not a “tans star” She’s female – a natuarl born, cisgender woman.

      Dec 16, 2010 at 9:20 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      GeriHew, I am compelled to repeat.

      I am not against pseudo-lesbian scenes in “straight” porn. I don’t force anybody to masturbate on a gay porn!
      I am against hypocrisy! I am against segregation, marginalization and stigmatization male-male sexuality from human sexuality.
      it is as racist segregation in USA until 1960s.

      It is a cause of homophobia, not-adoption. It is obvious. For what this ghetto as GayVN? Award ceremonies must be under ONE BRAND.
      It is just porn exist! With many diferent directions!

      Cause of homophobia is a male-male sex tabboo.

      It is necesary to create a new fetish “2 bisex guys for 1 girl”.
      30% of women watch porn regularly. And it is potencial money also!
      And it will help to destroy a taboo on male-male sexuality.

      Dec 16, 2010 at 11:44 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @Max Campbell: I don’t know what’s happening with this thread. Most of my comments are now showing that they are still awaiting moderation. A couple of days ago it looked like they had been moderated and cleared.

      As I see it my words have been censored on this thread and I am completely disgusted by this.

      Seriously Max, it isn’t necessary to create a “new fetish” – “2 bisex guys for 1 girl”. There’s nothing new about bisexual MMF threesome porn – it’s been around for donkey’s years – and women as well as men not only enjoy it, they make it! I’ve already told you that you can find lots of stuff about bisexual porn on AVNs website. Including bisexual porn made by women.

      Please just go watch Madison Young’s Fluid Men Redefining Sexuality – 2010 Feminist Porn Award Winner – Best Bi Movie. Madison didn’t make that movie just for a male audience, she wouldn’t have won a Feminist Porn award for it if she had. Yes the Feminist Porn Awards are run by WOMEN!!!!!

      Madison Young’s website – madisonbound has ff sex, mf sex, mm sex, mmf and ffm sex in its members’ area. Madison is also on Crash Pad Series – which as up for a 2011 avn award and has nothing to do with “pseudo-lesbian scenes in “straight” porn”.

      Dec 19, 2010 at 8:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      Bla bla bla….
      I answer in #65

      Dec 19, 2010 at 4:58 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      @Max Campbell: Bla, bla, bla yourself Max. I bet you haven’t even bothered looking up any of the queer porn sites I’ve mentioned.

      Yuu come out with stuff like this:’It is necesary to create a new fetish “2 bisex guys for 1 girl”.
      30% of women watch porn regularly. And it is potencial money also!
      And it will help to destroy a taboo on male-male sexuality.’

      and then have the cheek to go “bla, bla, bla, ” when a woman tells you there are already women making male-male porn (gay and bisexual) that appeals to women and wins awards at events started and organized by women.

      Which just goes to show you haven’t a clue about what’s really going on in porn.

      I feel you’re the sort of person who will still be jumping up and down about discrimination in the “homophobic” “straight” porn industry when AVN and Gay AVN are combined into one event – like the Xbiz awards are:
      http://www.xbizawards.com/categories.php

      Has it occured to you that some gay men actually like having their own Gay porn awards event?

      Are you aware that between 1988 and 1998, gay adult video awards were part of the AVN awards and in 1999 AVN decided to separately host the GayVN Awards? Do you actually know why they decided to do that?

      Have you any ides how many people in the adult entertainment industry attend both events now?

      Bla, bla, bla indeed. You lost the argument didn’t you.

      Moving on, I would like to see awards for the following:
      Best bisexual performer – male
      Best bisexual performer – female
      Best queer porn performer ( which could go to a performer of any gender and non heteronormative sexuality )
      and
      Best lesbian performer – because there are women in porn who only have sex with women, and some of them are even lesbians in real life! Not that I would want to see only homosexual women being considered for such an award.

      Dec 21, 2010 at 7:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason [Different person #1 using similar name]

      GeriHew,

      Straight porn deceives and distorts. By promoting straight porn, AVN is also deceiving and distorting.

      I can only say this to all the members of the GLBT community: the straight porn industry is NOT our friend. It classifies female homosexuality as straight and male homosexuality as gay or bisexual. It’s classic segregationist philosophy designed to keep male-male sexuality out of the mainstream and female-female sexuality within the mainstream but only as a patriarchy-pleasing paradigm.

      Keep in mind that a lot of the bisexual women in straight porn – usually prostitutes – are extremely homophobic towards male-male sexuality. There’s a number who refuse to work with any male performer who has done male-male scenes. Hypocritical cunts, aren’t they?

      Dec 21, 2010 at 7:28 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason [Different person #1 using similar name]

      There are two forms of homophobia towards male homosexual interactions – one comes from the religious right, the other from the porn left. Both are vile forms of prejudice and bigotry.

      Dec 21, 2010 at 7:33 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jeffree
      Jeffree

      @jason:
      Why are you so focused on pôrn?
      Oh wait, it’s ‘cuz you have never been “intimàte” with a human being!

      That dang “bisexual female double standard” that you rant about *daily* is the *ONLY* reason you are so lonely, right? Otherwise you wouldn’t be insessantly harping about why you so revile women, gay men, foreigners, and yourself.

      Dec 21, 2010 at 8:24 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      GeriHew,
      about this site…

      Why the film where female bisexuality is specified as ordinary, but the film where male bisexuality is specified as the “bisexual genre”?

      is this FULL EQUALITY???

      What do you protect? Do you try to convince me of absence of discrimination and double standards?

      And I am not interested in underground projects.

      I asked just about AVN segregation. For what this ghetto as GayVN??? It is as racist segregation.
      I don’t force anybody to masturbate on a gay porn! But award ceremonies must be under ONE BRAND!!!

      Jeffree
      “Why are you so focused on pôrn?”

      Because this industry has enormous enormous enormous influence on mass consciousness! That’s why.

      “Straight” porn (as ordinary, mainstream porn) said that “male-female and female-female it is a normal, but male-male it isn’t normal.”

      This industry segregates male-male sexuality from human sexuality.

      Example – ghetto as GayVN. this hypocritical policy block male homoerotism, because it is a tabboo. Doesn’t leave chance of change.
      Maybe guys could be more free in realization of the bisexual potential soon! as it was in Antiquity, for example!!! Male bisexuality was a norm!
      But no, They say that female bisexuality is a ordinary thing, but any male-male activity should be segregated and forced out.

      Some gay guys don’t want to listen the truth.
      Truth is that reason of homophobia is a suppress male homoerotism, gay sex. Nothing else…
      It as threat of their “correct” masculinity (the Levynite 18).

      And if the homophobia reason in homoerotism suppression there should be a special program, instead of empty standard slogans which give the minimal effect.

      Dec 21, 2010 at 5:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      In 1950-1960ss white people didn’t want that black people were with them in cafe, schools… It is hate!

      Film festivals in Berlin, Venice and Cannes also have gay-awards.
      Probably some spectators dont want this.
      But ceremonies pass in frameworks of one festival and under ONE BRAND. Maybe in another days.

      Dec 21, 2010 at 6:05 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Max Campbell
      Max Campbell

      I won’t be surprised if they want to chop all gays on pieces and would give to vagrant dogs… But gay porn makes enormous profit. Including from their ghetto-site sales.

      I refuse to buy DVD from companies which participate in ceremony GayVN!
      Also I will propagandize it everywhere.

      I don’t want to be a part of ghetto! This humiliates my human dignity!

      Dec 21, 2010 at 7:07 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Karla
      Karla

      Greetings from Moscow. Im an straight girl, who watch gay porn usually. Im totally agree with Max Campbell! And I join and support boycott. The ghetto it is humiliating.

      Dec 22, 2010 at 5:06 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason [Different person #1 using similar name]

      Keep in mind that AVN’s confinement of male-male sexuality to the “gay” category may be a clever way of keeping visual depictions of male-male sexuality away from their home page. It may well be their homophobic intent, a means of keeping male-male depictions away from the rednecks who might be offended.

      In fact, a lot of porn news websites operate on this basis. Female-female sexuality is classified as “straight”, and thus given prominence, but male-male sexuality is sequestered into a location where you must click further in order to get access.

      Dec 22, 2010 at 6:53 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • jason
      jason [Different person #1 using similar name]

      Karla,

      Yes, you are so right. Greetings to Moscow, by the way.

      The porn industry has created a ghetto in order to keep male-male sexuality out of the mainstream. It’s time we fought back. Porn can go and fuck itself.

      I also get so irritated by these bisexual women who do straight porn. They are so damned irritating, the porn equivalent of Sarah Palin.

      Dec 22, 2010 at 6:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • GeriHew
      GeriHew

      To Max, Jason and Karla.

      I’d rather the AVN awards weren’t split into 1.GayVN – “gay” male and 2. AVN – everything else. I know the main reason they split the original one event in two wasn’t really anything to do with homophobia. It was a reflection of how big the gay male porn market had become by the late 1990s, and how many award categories they had to deal with.

      I’m not exactly thrilled that lesbian porn – even lesbian porn made by women for women – tends to get categorized as “straight” porn by many in the industry either. But I am thrilled when AVN gives an award to a lesbian and/or bifem owned company/director – which they have done – nonetheless.

      Now if you’d all like to start flaming the Grabby Gay Porn Awards
      http://www.grabbys.com/
      which were started by
      http://www.gaychicagomagazine.com/
      in 1991, for not having anything but a lot of gay male porn awards and an occasional token bisexual male porn award…..

      And Jason I’m pretty damned sure that on the whole the female porn performers who work with male performers who do b/b as well as b/g are mostly much more genuinely bisexual than the women who refuse to work with bisexual men. A lot of those women who won’t work with bi men aren’t really bisexual – they’re straight and just “gay-for-pay”.

      Dec 28, 2010 at 5:54 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Carlos
      Carlos

      They are PLENTY of bisexual males on the straight side.

      Jan 9, 2011 at 11:40 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Jon
      Jon

      @gina:
      Angelia Valentine is a woman would have been the correct thing to say. Also the reason GLADD can’t do anything is because of this pesky amendment called the 1st amendment, but this whole article is funny..it’s porn. They got a porn site where they have confederate flags all over the place and white dudes gang black chics. People need to stop being so oversensitive because as soon as GLADD and other groups gets thing censored then who’s to say they won’t be censored next.

      Mar 19, 2011 at 1:04 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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