tikihead: LOL. THANK YOU.

Thank-you, again – LMTs.

The biggest risk I faced with LMTs was the constant barrage of New Age BS while being a naked, oiled-up, captive audience. It’s so bad that I now just ask up front if they plan to talk about Space Brothers, the Fifth Dimension (not the band) or Chakras. Luckily I found a woman who does not do that.

i’m not arguing against you since i’m (once again) pro-prostitution.

you know that whatever happens between the therapist and the client is private, especially when the client goes blabbing it all over the internet. now every massage therapist named Kyle in the state of Arizona is going to be inundated with calls from closet cases wanting hand jobs – whether or not Kyle was actually in Arizona or not is irrelevant.

people can do whatever they want… i don’t care. i’m just not going to give shit a fluffy name and i’m going to call out braggarts who celebrate their success in turning massage therapists into something they didn’t intend to be.

to be more specific Josh… it was your comment, “that eventually succumbed to the inclusion of the “happy ending”" that completely set me off.

Plus, I will decide if a happy ending is “required for my health.” I suggest it completes the massage nicely. I’ve never asked for it, but the majority of LMT that I’ve had included it and I frequented the ones that did.

Nobody was hurt or embarrassed or upset. Now, it’s your turn.

MY OBSERVANCE is that you are being disrespectful to the LMT industry. that’s it. i’m observing your bragging and pride and i’m saying that it’s disrespectful due to the nature of the LMT standards. there is a separate industry specifically for erotic massage.

MY OPINION is that you should leave the licensed professionals alone. they are there for your health and a hand job is not required for you to be healthy.

REPEAT… YET AGAIN: i have no moral problem with happy endings or prostitution. i want prostitution to be legal. even if it’s not, i still have a great IRA that’s building now… that will be spent on escorts when i’m old. yes… my retirement plan includes whore-fucking money.

Also I have know of many LMTs who willingly cross their own professional boundaries for the sake of their own pleasure and financial needs. After all it can be as much a pleasure to give a happy ending as it is to receive one. Plus in a competitive service industry like massage therapy it may simply be a financial need to make more money and have more repeat clients. If so if it pays the bills and you enjoy giving hand jobs then why not?

However that does lead into some tricky territory. Because many clients have difficulty clearly expressing what they want and don’t want, especially erotically. So when a LMT crosses the line he opens himself to a lot of potential problems if there has been any miscommunication.

BTW there is no crack whore who is going to give you the type of full body relaxation, pleasure and gratification experience that a professional erotic masseur will give you. Many discerning men – gay, straight, and bi just appreciate that level of service.

Finally all the religious sex-negative, pleasure-negative, body-negative, moral crap and the antiquated prostitution laws that stem from it have to go imo. Let people enjoy themselves and make a living in peace.

You’re insecure James. A Happy Ending is not prostitution. Get over it. It’s not a big deal. Each LMT can take care of themselves, but you shouldn’t date one again.

And Josh – “free will”?? LOL! that is a used justify a lack of concern for other people. if you lived on an island by yourself, excercise all the free will you want. but you don’t. you live in a society… with other people… and a generation of gay people coming after you. it is your free will to act selfishly, but it is also my free will to call it out.

you forget that I am PRO-prostitution. I don’t mind that you pay for sexual favors. It’s okay. The difference between you and I is that I call it what it is and you want to create some elaborate justification to cover a simple reality: you pay… and encourage licenses massage therapists to cross over from muscle therapy to erotic sexual behavior.

I cannot and will not apologize for finding it disrespectful.

Actually a good start would be for you and others to drop the terms “masseur” and “masseuse” when referring to LICENSED MASSAGE THERAPISTS. The terms are outdated and completely inappropriate when speaking of licensed professionals due to the sexual connotations that come with them.

TampaZeke, LMT

You are 100% correct (that I re-posted your comments!)

by all means, let’s encourage all licensed massage therapists to become whores. if you have a problem with the word, please bitch at Merriam-Webster and leave me out of it.

If you can date a massage therapist knowing it happens, then don’t. Date a Flight Attendant or Waiter. No, wait – there are stories with them, too. I’ll be quiet.

For all the Licensed Massage Therapists reading this: If you have a good client, one you’ve massaged several times and it ends happy, don’t feel bad about it – it is appreciated.

please don’t get me wrong though – i’m all for prostitution…. so please don’t think that i have a moral problem with any of this. but just because this industry is intimate doesn’t mean you have to bring people over to the prostitution side.

as for me… i dated a massage therapist for 8 months… one of the hottest people i’ve ever dated – and his constant frustration was in dealing with people just like you who keep saying “oh… i wasn’t looking for a happy ending… but one would be nice *hint* *hint*”. he would get so depressed because he would have to make it perfectly clear on the phone and then STILL had to deal with the situation in person. he finally just gave it up. that’s what people like you do to the industry. in the process of looking for that ONE happy ending, you piss off everyone else.

don’t get me wrong – massage as foreplay is FANTASTIC. but disrespecting professionals in this field so you can get your rocks off is not cool (TO ME). your penis is just not as important to me as respecting my ex, his fellow therapists, and an entire industry.

my stats? i’m younger than the generation that thinks this is acceptable behavior and much older than the generation that falls for it.

Just so YOU understand, the viable alternative to the licensed massage therapist that will not touch the penis and provide the happy ending, is ANOTHER licensed massage therapist, not a crack whore.

BTW, what are your stats?

:-)

Thanks Dr. Laura.

oh, i called her a crack “whore”. maybe you want to call her something else…. call it by any other name you want, but the only thing that you are trying to justify is a hand job for money. I like hand jobs too – so again… no argument here.

I’m sure your dick is very important to you. My dick is important to me too. So if you want your penis massaged, then go to the appropriate place and order a licensed masseur to relax your body and then handle your very valuable penis.

Otherwise you are perpetuating the problem mentioned in the article and regular, well-trained massage therapists (male and female – gay and straight) have to weed through people only concerned about the ‘happy ending’ a crack whore can do, and could care less about the health benefits of the actual massage which costs thousands of dollars in training and equipment.

What does that say about Queerty readers?

Cheap little critical shits? Maybe. Except I haven’t either.

I mean, it just seems weird to me. I hired the odd hooker back in the day, but it was because I would hit on some random hot guy who then sprung it on me that he was only gay for pay, and my inner Corbin Fisher was ok with that — but it was unplanned, spontaneous.

To actually go out and seek it? No there yet, and with the looks of things Social Security and 401k-wize, I doubt I ever will be.

Jesus Christ, it’s just a nice hand job after full relaxation. Christians still make that wrong? There’s just no pleasing you old-timers.

But your dick was happy… I guess that’s what really counts….

And, don’t reply telling me it’s “illegal,” speeding is illegal, too.

I think Queerty is talking about @Josh

TampaZeke, LMT

Look, he enjoyed it. In fact, he probably can’t forget it and neither can I.

Gross. I’m sure he does his best to forget the experience.

I’ve had a few straight and real massage therapists that eventually succumbed to the inclusion of the “happy ending.” I kept them for a long time. My favorite was Kyle. He was even a Christian. God, I miss him.