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	<title>Comments on: Will the Supreme Court Force Univ. of CA to Approve This Anti-Gay Christian Group?</title>
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	<description>Free of an agenda. Except that gay one.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/will-the-supreme-court-force-univ-of-ca-to-approve-this-anti-gay-christian-group-20091207/#comment-244735</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a government agent, the school is prohibited from discrimination.  As a private club, the club members have freedom of speech and association.  The club members may choose to set their membership criteria.  However, the government (the school) may only support (with money, meeting rooms, etc.) clubs that do not discriminate.  If the club chooses to discriminate, they make themselves ineligible to receive support from the school.  That is their choice.

There were several similar cases involving the Boy Scouts (BSA) and various public school districts about a decade ago.  In each case, the result was similar: The BSA has a right to set its own membership criteria; And, the public school &quot;may not&quot; support or sponsor any BSA troops with public funds.

The constitution guarantees freedom of speech and freedom of association.  It does NOT say that the government must provide a a microphone, amplifier, lectern, stage, or meeting room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a government agent, the school is prohibited from discrimination.  As a private club, the club members have freedom of speech and association.  The club members may choose to set their membership criteria.  However, the government (the school) may only support (with money, meeting rooms, etc.) clubs that do not discriminate.  If the club chooses to discriminate, they make themselves ineligible to receive support from the school.  That is their choice.</p>
<p>There were several similar cases involving the Boy Scouts (BSA) and various public school districts about a decade ago.  In each case, the result was similar: The BSA has a right to set its own membership criteria; And, the public school &#8220;may not&#8221; support or sponsor any BSA troops with public funds.</p>
<p>The constitution guarantees freedom of speech and freedom of association.  It does NOT say that the government must provide a a microphone, amplifier, lectern, stage, or meeting room.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/will-the-supreme-court-force-univ-of-ca-to-approve-this-anti-gay-christian-group-20091207/#comment-244122</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add a more seriously-worded comment, what UC Hastings should do IMHO is to add a policy that a group that the law school recognizes must state any membership requirements accurately.  If the Supreme Court rules that this Christian group can discriminate for religious reasons, and &quot;unrepentant sexual conduct&quot; is a de facto code word for &quot;homosexual sexual conduct&quot;, then one can argue that the group is misleading potential members and should not be recognized on that basis. 

As a law school, there is a legitimate reason to require that recognized groups conform to the sort of ethical requirements that practicing attorneys would be expected to follow, including avoiding an appearance of impropriety by misrepresenting a group&#039;s requirements.  Of course, certain homophobic religious groups would hate this idea as they want to give their prejudices a cloak of respectability.  So let&#039;s not let them have it - parade them around stark naked (figuratively speaking).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add a more seriously-worded comment, what UC Hastings should do IMHO is to add a policy that a group that the law school recognizes must state any membership requirements accurately.  If the Supreme Court rules that this Christian group can discriminate for religious reasons, and &#8220;unrepentant sexual conduct&#8221; is a de facto code word for &#8220;homosexual sexual conduct&#8221;, then one can argue that the group is misleading potential members and should not be recognized on that basis. </p>
<p>As a law school, there is a legitimate reason to require that recognized groups conform to the sort of ethical requirements that practicing attorneys would be expected to follow, including avoiding an appearance of impropriety by misrepresenting a group&#8217;s requirements.  Of course, certain homophobic religious groups would hate this idea as they want to give their prejudices a cloak of respectability.  So let&#8217;s not let them have it &#8211; parade them around stark naked (figuratively speaking).</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.queerty.com/will-the-supreme-court-force-univ-of-ca-to-approve-this-anti-gay-christian-group-20091207/#comment-244093</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The chapter initially was open to all students, but in 2004 it began requiring members to endorse a statement of faith and barred anyone who engaged in &#039;unrepentant sexual conduct.&#039;&quot; .... so how is this anti-gay?  All they seem to require of a sexually active, unmarried or philandering member, whether gay or straight, is to say, &quot;I&#039;ve been a very bad boy.&quot;  (Maybe even &quot;I&#039;ve been a very bad boy and need to be punished, sir&quot; while naked and tied up in one of those bondage gizmos.)

Now, if the group&#039;s policy is to &quot;look the other way&quot; for heterosexual &quot;sinners&quot; and castigate gay ones, that would be a different situation and the group could be banned, if not for discrimination, at least for false advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The chapter initially was open to all students, but in 2004 it began requiring members to endorse a statement of faith and barred anyone who engaged in &#8216;unrepentant sexual conduct.&#8217;&#8221; &#8230;. so how is this anti-gay?  All they seem to require of a sexually active, unmarried or philandering member, whether gay or straight, is to say, &#8220;I&#8217;ve been a very bad boy.&#8221;  (Maybe even &#8220;I&#8217;ve been a very bad boy and need to be punished, sir&#8221; while naked and tied up in one of those bondage gizmos.)</p>
<p>Now, if the group&#8217;s policy is to &#8220;look the other way&#8221; for heterosexual &#8220;sinners&#8221; and castigate gay ones, that would be a different situation and the group could be banned, if not for discrimination, at least for false advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: terrwill</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrwill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the members are getting tired of meeting at the 
local cruise areas where they all get barebacked on a
regular basis.  They are looking for a meeting place
with toilet facilities other than their mouths.........</description>
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local cruise areas where they all get barebacked on a<br />
regular basis.  They are looking for a meeting place<br />
with toilet facilities other than their mouths&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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