Well, that was apropos of nothing, but neither were the last ten or twenty comments.

I agree, Tim. A tip of the hat to you.

No. 33 · dgz
@Charles J. Mueller:

“and please don’t insinuate that i don’t support the community, or that i harbor some sort of self-hatred. that’s unkind and unwarranted, but sadly given what i’ve read of your posts, not entirely unexpected”

You wrote: *yawn*

If you’re tired, go to sleep.

Meanwhile, where is your backup for your accusations? Despite all of your self-righteous rhetoric and BS, none has been forthcoming. We are all still waiting with baited breath.

“Just the facts, Ma’am. Just the facts.”

You’re inability to perceive gradations is pathetic and sad.

As for the rest of you, DNFTT.

Once again, in case you failed to hear me the first time around, you, Sir, are a disingenuous liar.

You continue to make new accusations against me, but as you have in the past, have not been able to show or quote one thread or date as to when I supposedly uttered these comments. So typical of character assassins.

You can deny being a Christian until Kingdom come, but the fact still remains, you use the same tactics and lies to besmirch and denigrate those whom you dislike or do not approve of. And yes, I will continue to attack Christian, Mormons and any other religious bigotry and hatred that I am confronted with, as well as people like you who display all of their bigotry and hatred with impunity.

Your continued usage of the term old man, clearly indicates that you are an ageist. My experience has taught me that ageists are usually misogynists and racists as well.

I am actually beginning to enjoy your posts because it does such a fine job of showcasing your bigotry, hatred, ageism and Lord knows whatever evil thoughts and feeling you are harboring. By all means, please do continue to peel away layer after lay of yourself as you’ve been doing so we can all see your ugliness in all of it’s magnificence.

As Bill Perdue so aptly said, you are probably holding back the accusation of bestiality in your arsenal of hateful remarks as the piece dé resistance.

I cannot help but wonder how long you will be able to constrain yourself before you toss that that bombshell out at me as well?

I thank god, THANK GOD I SAY, that there was no myspace when I was a teenager. I might still be in prison.

“Our seriously troubled friend, Matt (the other other one) seems to have several problematic areas in his life that need to addressed professionally. One can see clearly from his postings that he is a very unhappy and angry person who needs to strike out at others by whom he feels threatened. He threatens me, and now you, for the very same actions he accuses us of and of which he himself is guilty.”

You really can’t make that kind of judgement about a person based on what they write in an anonymous forum. We all adopt (I believe) a different persona when we use the internet, just like we do when we get behind the wheel of a car (I think its the isolation and subconscious thought that what we say and do doesn’t really affect anyone).

That’s all.

From the perspective of a gay guy whose high school life was made a hell, there may be a projected soupcon of comeuppance happening, but if this had been a straight guy blackmailing 15-17 year girls or lesbians into sex, I suspect there would be no backhanded admiration here.

Stancl needs help, for sure. I am not competent to make a magic diagnoses over the internet from a few paragraphs of coverage, but I’d be worried that this guy could turn into a full-blown sexual predator, if he isn’t one already.

PS: I almost forgot to address Matt’s last sentence in his second rebuttal to you. (NO. 81).

“Stop trying to force religion down my throat all the time this is not a damn nunnery and if you can’t talk about GAY STUFF go away!”

For someone who professes not to be Christian, why is he so defensive of the likes of the Christians and Mormons who recently voted our civil-rights away with Prop 8 in California, I wonder?

GAY STUFF is precisely what the Christian Right and the Mormons love to talk about, 24/7/365. In fact, it’s clearly an obsession with them. So, why is Matt now also playing the role of censor, in addition to a vigilante member, by telling the rest of us what we can and cannot talk about on these threads?

I could not help but chuckle over his comment that he is “sick of reading 2000 word posts.”

Matt could not compose a 2000 word post if his life depended on it. Judging from the majority of his posts, it’s a real mental reach for him just to be able to put a half dozen sentences together coherently.

2000 words would surely blow all of the few circuits he has.

And thank you, Bill, for your kind and supportive words as well. It seems, once you get caught in the cross-hairs of someone who decided to take a disliking to you for no reason at all, it’s like trying to shake off sticky fly paper. The more you try, the more tangled-up in it you become.

Now it appears that he has also decided to get on your case as well as mine. Unfortunately, his hostile rhetoric and actions are following an all too familiar and ugly pattern that I have already become experienced with.

Our seriously troubled friend, Matt (the other other one) seems to have several problematic areas in his life that need to addressed professionally. One can see clearly from his postings that he is a very unhappy and angry person who needs to strike out at others by whom he feels threatened. He threatens me, and now you, for the very same actions he accuses us of and of which he himself is guilty.

Matt then justifies his actions with comments like “You can dish it out, but you can’t take it.” He seems totally incapable of responding in an intelligent manner to any of the posts he disagrees with, which is his prerogative as guaranteed to him under the free speech clause in our Constitution, preferring instead to launch a vilifying personal attack.

Unfortunately, we of the LGBT community are already far too familiar with these sort of sick tactics. Like the Mormons and the Religious Right, his thinking is extremely convoluted.

And like the Mormons and the Religions Right, Matt has proven himself to be a disingenuous liar as well. Despite repeated requests for proof for his accusation that I was “chased” off another thread for all the “insults and attacks” I supposedly made, he has yet to produce an documentation to prove his charges. By virtue of the fact that I am still posting on these threads, it would appear to me (and to him if he had a brain), that I was never “chased” off of anything by Queerty.com since I began reading and posting on this site. If Queerty.com does not have an issue with my commentaries, they I fail to see what Matt’s problem is?

Whether a Christian or not, he nevertheless acts just like the Mormons and the religious right who attack the LGBT community relentlessly with every means they have at hand, and when we fight back, they accuse us of “Church bashing”, “Christian bashing” and self-righteously scream that they are “sick of hearing it.” while attempting to make themselves look like the real vicitims.

D’oh. What about us? We’re pretty sick of hearing it too! Why don’t they take the same advice Matt just offered to you in the closing line of his rebuttal to you? This guy is acting like a self-appointed vigilante member who is going to take the law into his own hands. People like that scare me.

I’ve also noted that he constantly employs the term ‘old’, ‘senile’ and similar denigrating terms in his unprovoked attacks. Apparently, he also suffers from agism in additional to his other rather obvious mental disorders. He really should seek some help before he finds himself in exactly the same mess that Stancl has put himself into.

These are not the actions of a “normal” person that he has professed himself to be in his post no. 59 to J, who, like you, wrote in support of me. This too, follows a pattern that stalkers use. They try to get everyone on their side to support their abuse and illegal activities. He is definitely exhibiting all the attributes and trade marks of a stalker which he blithely admits to. Doesn’t sound too “normal” to me.

A few years back, on Gay.com, I had someone threaten me with a gun in a blog because he too did not like what I and a few others had to say in our commentaries. Like Matt, he too never contributed anything meaningful to the commentaries. His only purpose for being there was to disrupt the room, create an atmosphere of discord and make personal attacks on commentators which is what Matt is currently doing. And, this guy justified his gun threat with the same all too familiar rhetoric Matt is now employing in his attacks on us.

Gay.com was hesitant and I felt slow to take action against this person who was clearly breaking all the TOS rules and it finally took a phone call from me to the police to chill him out nd remove the offending weapons from his house that he cheerfully bragged about and which were all unregistered and unlicensed. Real smart. I guess the need to play Mr. Macho was bigger than his pea-sized brain.

Despite reporting Matt to Queerty.com and my ISP for abuse and my personal warning to him to cease and desist, Matt apparently had no intention of chilling out and has apparently made the decision to not only continue his demeaning diatribe, but to mount an escalated attack on anyone who does not agree with him.

Some people just have to learn the hard way, it appears.

Thank you for your kind comments and words of support. It is encouraging to know that there are people on these blogs who have a heart and who are not all filled with bigotry, hatred and self loathing and who feel the need to denigrate and defame others for sharing their life experiences with others, as a few folks on Querty.com seem driven to do.

Life is short, unfortunately, and if we cannot celebrate it by showing love and concern for our fellow man, then it seems to me that we have missed the point of even being on this wonderful plant.

Edwin Bok, the noted Dutch poet said “Make the world a better place for having lived in it.” I think he was onto something. :-)

Now, I’ll wait for some bitchy queen to trash that sentiment as well. lol

My error was not using scare quotes for “gay bashing,” for clearly someone responding violently to the advances of a sexual predator is justified regardless of that predator’s sexual orientation.

It is galling to see some in jest (or not…some of those absurd comments from “faggots”–yes, they exemplify many negative stereotypes excluding them from the title of gay man–were not jokes) congratulating the shrewdness with which this criminal sexually abused and exploited his victims, as it feeds into the stereotype that I’m coming to realize has a grain of truth to it amongst some gay men. That is, that gay men are preying upon straight men: sex obsessed fiends who will take advantage of straight men, who they cherish because of their own “deficiencies” as “men”. This does no one anywhere any favors. But sobering is the realization that gay men are capable of being just as horrendous and predictable as everyone else; and stories such as these serve as a reminder of that fact.

To clarify, no gay bashing is justified, even in the case of a hetro violently rebuffing a gay man’s non-violent, non predatory advances. Not justified. But a violent and unrestrained sexual advance met with a violent response certainly doesn’t seem unjustified.

I like YUP’s analysis of the whole thing. There’s enough stupidity here to start a new religion (Blue Shod Elves of Pelvic Elvis, God of Holy Tupelo?) or at least to float a battleship.

Stancl is stupid but he’s not a predator like the thousands of roman cult priests continue to commit crimes real against children. Nor is Stancl in the same league as christer priests and pastors in Africa who tell people they’ll get HIV/AIDS from condoms. It makes you wonder why these christers ignore their own crimes but detonate with two-faced anger at the misdeeds of a young and not so bright (he got caught) gay man.

The 300 hundred year sentencing proposal is definitely a christian thing because of the gay sex angle. Sex between men makes them go apeshit and their bigotry and homophobia just explode. They demand resignations and maximalist penalties to the same degree that they’re dead quiet about the killers of Lawrence King, Sakia Gunn and Matthew Sheppard. Their sanctimonious hypocrisy is breathtaking.

They always overreact when gay sex is involved. We seem to offend their narrow little minds no end. Some of them get as out of control as matt(the other other one) the christ-on-roids dick who got pushy in the legally defined sense. I’m glad Charles is defending himself from an admitted stalker. Beyond that this is the second accusation against atheists as child abusers I’ve seen from christer nut cases in a week. It’s pretty sick and it’s actionable. These accusations are very christian of them and all but they’re also prime examples of anti-gay christian bigotry in action.

These right wing christers are getting to be a bit too much. It seems Obama’s victory has given them new hope that they can inject their superstition in our discussions and that we have to like it. They’re even making noises about providing christian direction to the GLBT movement.

Not gonna happen, jubuz jumpers, not gonna happen.

You christers can lie all you want. You can make bigoted accusations all you want, and spew all the psycho babble you want and even say we have really, really bad breath and zits. None of it will stop us or intimidate us in the least. Because no one believes you. Nor will you be able to divert the general discussion from the main question. We’ll always drag it back to what important, while dismissing you diversions. None of us are going away and none of us are going to shut up.

Get used to it.

Now it time for mattie other other to spew some more. And maybe make a stalker threat or two and raise the question of bestiality. That a christer favorite they’re holding in reserve.

LMAO!! That was killer. Anderson Cooper’s future husband summed up Chucky Mueller and his rambling essays with one sentence.

“@Charles J. Mueller: Yeah I got it and every time you attack someone for feeling differently than you I will be on you like white on rice. If you want to bully people fine now you have a bully.”

From Wikipedia on Internet Stalking:

Most stalking laws require that the perpetrator make a credible threat of violence against the victim; others include threats against the victim’s immediate family; and still others require the alleged stalker’s course of conduct constitute an implied threat. While some conduct involving annoying or menacing behavior might fall short of illegal stalking, such behavior may be a prelude to stalking and violence and should be treated seriously.[16]

The current US Federal Anti-Cyber-Stalking law is found at 47 USC sec. 223.[13]

The first U.S. cyberstalking law went into effect in 1999 in California. Other states include prohibition against cyberstalking in their harassment or stalking legislation.

In Florida, HB 479 was introduced in 2003 to ban cyberstalking. This was signed into law on October 2003. [14]

You have made what constitutes a threat toward me and have made it it exceedingly clear that you intend to continue to bully (harass) me for whatever reasons you deem justifiable and in so doing, you have violated both state and federal laws.

Given the increasingly menacing tone of your posts against me on this and other threads, I have, as Wikipedia strong suggests, decided to treat this matter seriously.

Not only have you been reported to Queerty.com, you have also been reported to my ISP who will, in turn, locate your ISP and contact the police if they believe that your threat is a prelude to further stalking or possible violent intent on your behalf.

Anything further that you post on these threads will be used as evidence against so I would caution you to cease and desist, lest you dig yourself into even deeper trouble with the authorities.

For sexual purposes…he’s a boy.

But, at 18, he’s a man who is old enough to get his ass shot off in Iran or Afghanistan.

Love the double-standards we Americans like to indulge ourselves in.

On a previous post about that 17 year old model, all of you sky pixie Lawnorder brigade were saying a 17 year is too young to be responsible for his own sexual choices.

Yet, NOW you’re all slavering for blood and saying that a 16 year in this case is more than able to be judged and tried in a court as an adult for his sexual misdemeanours! (And, incidentally, this case also at the same time disproves your bullshit ideas that a boy of 16 /17 years old is incapable of sexually choosing and acting on his lusts!)

Make up your fucking minds, per-leaze!

And for what it is worth, my opinion is that this kid needs a hard and short punishment – perhaps a good beating. But all this talk of locking him up for 40 years or more is just more evidence of the savagery of the US legal system and the moral bankruptcy and barbarity of the US in general.

He should get his ass kicked! Regardless teen or not these were his intentions all along and he should get this sh^t beat out of him. This “domino effect” sh^t needs to stop.

deception is a bitch!