9% of self-described Democrats voted for Donald Trump according to the New YorkTimes. If that shocks you, you might want to sit down for the rest.
14% of LGBT people admitted to pollsters that they voted for Donald Trump – who has said he thinks businesses should be able to discriminate against LGBT people. Let that sink in for a moment.
29% of Latinos chose Trump over Clinton. That’s a larger percentage than Mitt Romney got in the last election. Sit with that. Just sit with it.
42% of women voted for the man who bragged about using his celebrity status to sexually assault women and described them in the most vulgar and sexist ways possible. It almost seems impossible, doesn’t it?
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45% of college graduates and 49% of white college graduates picked the candidate who is least experienced and capable of running the American government. What sense does that make? You don’t need a degree to see how stupid that is.
41% of people making under $30,000/year, 42% of those with annual incomes between $30,000 – 49,999, and an amazing 50% of those with incomes between $50,000 – $99,999 voted for the man who pledged to raise their taxes to give it to those making millions every year. Why would you choose to take money out of your own pocket to put in some random billionaire’s?
81% of white evangelicals voted for the candidate who literally embodied the seven deadly sins. They said God would work “through him” so it didn’t matter what sins he committed – like allegations of pedophilia, tax dodging, or swindling people.
More Republicans told exit pollsters that they disliked Hillary Clinton more than they liked Donald Trump. Maybe “I don’t really like him either” will salve their conscience.
America has turned itself inside out to elect a conman and racist. That’s not a statistic from the Times. That’s just a fact.
joeyty
Including me. But (New York) my vote didn’t really count.
joeyty
BTW : The meltdown with the usual suspects is continuing. Signorile is practically spittling he’s screaming so loud. I guess he doesn’t like democracy. John Aravosis is shrieking too. Fat Joe Jervis is just eating into oblivion. And again, I feel bad for genuinely decent Hillary supporters who somehow or other thought she was the better candidate, but those blog guys are just such damn vicious characters it’s really their just desserts. Maybe they’ll calm down by next week.
Aromaeus
I get not liking Hillary Clinton, I don’t. However how can anyone who considers themselves liberal or even the slightest bit left-leaning pick Donald Trump over her? This is a man who thinks wages are too high even though most people are living paycheck to paycheck these days. He wants to do away with obamacare and with it the provision that required insurance companies to cover those with pre-existing conditions like oh I don’t know HIV?! He’s got one of the most virulently anti-gay politicians as Vice President who will constantly be in his ear. A man whose answer to questions about what he would do in certain situations amounted to “we’ll have to see when that happens”. I just…I’m still in shock over this.
Xzamilloh
There’s nothing shocking about Trump’s win. I voted for Hillary, but wasn’t surprised at all to see her lose the way she did. People were sick of the establishment, and you don’t get more establishment than her. Besides, Hillary Clinton is a centrist at best, and far from a liberal. She’s like any other politician and says what she thinks you want to hear.
1EqualityUSA
Aromeas, 2018. Look at 2010, the damage done to Obama in the midterm quashed all hopes of getting infrastructure projects moving. He would have been a rockstar to the rust belt, had the GOP not blocked his efforts. I wonder if Trump will have to struggle to get his plans off of the ground. Manipulators. The Cosmos will slap them down for their self-willed motives. Put a long lens on it.
IDoNotHaveToAgreeWithYou
Maybe instead of pandering to illegals and muslim “refugees” the democrats should have been worried about what people that can actually vote want.
1EqualityUSA
Obstructionist GOP creeps blocked Obama from job-creating measures.
Brian
The 14% figute is based on chosen-identity. But what about men who take part in homosexual activity but choose to not identify as gay? I’m sure there were many who voted for Trump.
There are also gay-identifying men who choose not to reveal their chosen identity to pollsters, this being another reason as to why the 14% figure should be dismissed.
Be careful how you interpret data from polling companies – it can be entirely inaccurate or misleading.
joeyty
@Xzamilloh: People worry most about what affects them directly when they vote. Probably why it’s so often $ issues, healthcare, etc. .
Brian
By the way, the New York Times loves identity politics but it is fraught with substantial distortion.
For example, having black skin is non-chosen and can be readily interpreted as the black identity without the observing pollster asking the black-skinned person if he chooses to identify as black.
This is important because a person with black skin may have a white parent. The pollster may automatically classify him as having a black identity without asking him if he prefers to identify as white.
In contrast, the gay identity cannot be readily observed by the pollster. It relies fully on the subject choosing to publicly identify himself as gay to the pollster.
Beware of the distortion of identity politics and the New York Times’ unhealthy obsession with it.
1EqualityUSA
Blow-up dolls can’t vote, so don’t even bother waiting in line with your chosen spouse.
joeyty
@Brian: The NY Times is known for falsehoods. Remember Jayson Blair ?
Mack
@Xzamilloh: And TRump didn’t? Everything he said was because that what the audience wanted him to say at that particular moment.
ErikO
@Xzamilloh: Exactly. I voted for Jill Stein but I knew she was not even going to get 1% of votes or win and no 3rd party candidates are not responsible for Trump winning or for Republicans winning both the house and senate.
1EqualityUSA
ErikO, That is a flat out lie.
joeyty
@leobaga: Let’s HOPE he will be a great President, for gay interests as well as for everybody. Meanwhile, this Bil character should be ashamed of himself for being on Queerty which is just making up stories about Trump’s election causing a plague of gaybashings. Totally lying because they’re such sore losers. I guess Bil Browning is comfortable being a liar too.
1EqualityUSA
Florida, Clinton lost by 1.4% if Jill Stein’s and half of Gary John’s backers had voted Democratic, Trump would have lost the state. Pennsylvania, 1.1%, If Jill Stein’s and Gary Johnson’s backers had voted Democratic, Trump would have lost the state. Wisconsin 1% If Stein’s backers voted Democratic, Trump would have lost the state. Michigan, 0.3%, but if Stein’s supporters had voted Democratic, Trump would have lost the state. (Thanks, Rachel Maddow)
Neonegro
It is unwise to assume all 3rd party voters would have voted for Clinton.
What makes you think they would not have voted for Trump or decided to stayed home.
leobaga
@1EqualityUSA: America won. Stop the fearmongering already.
1EqualityUSA
Stating facts is fearmongering?
leobaga
@1EqualityUSA: you’ve been saying from the beginning Trump will never be the gop nominee, the president, blah blah. You never gave him credit. He was outraised, outspent and out-advertised by Hillary Clinton’s billion-dollar bid. He beat her anyway.
1EqualityUSA
Hate carries a man too far from the shore, leobaga. Good fortune will not flourish from such a mind. I will agree, in no small sliver of my brain did I ever think a man such as this could be President of the United States. I had zero notion of it. I’m hoping that he’ll tell the Tedious Right to blow, over the social oppression stuff. That would be cool. The Supreme Court Justice chosen will tell us.
leobaga
@1EqualityUSA: Give him a chance. What I’m excited about is he’s changing the homophobic Republican Party. He is the first GOP nominee to even mention the Lgbqt during the convention. Remember, Democrats used to be the conservative party and Republicans used to be the progressive party. Republicans tended to be against slavery, while the Democrats were for it. It was a Republican president, Abraham Lincoln, who was the politician who made the greatest impact against slavery. The GOP will evolve again. Trump will make that happen. I’m confident he will be a great president. You will see.
ErikO
@1EqualityUSA: Keep telling yourself that, meanwhile more and more people are wising up to the fact that both parties are not that good.
1EqualityUSA
I’m a soil inspector when it comes to where a person’s roots rest, leobaga. If the soil is tainted, the fruit will reflect this. Your enthusiasm is winsome.
1EqualityUSA
The chance is slim, but if we could get some of the red states to change their electoral votes, we may be able to reverse this tragedy. There is a petition online asking for this. December 19, woof.
joeyty
@leobaga: Incidentally, could you imagine if those who’d been unhappy with Obama’s winning the election had hanged him in effigy like these protestors are doing to Trump outside the Trump Towers? How do you think that would have gone over as reported on Queerty?
joeyty
But most Democrats, like Michael Vick, love the idea of strangling both white males and dogs.
1EqualityUSA
“But as the New York Times points out, there is nothing in the Constitution that would prevent any of the electors from refusing to support the candidate who won their state, or from abstaining. They are dubbed a “faithless elector,” though 29 states ban the practice.”— CBS Pittsburgh article.
joeyty
@1EqualityUSA: If you never read the news or were away from all media, four years would pass and you would never know who’d been President anyway.
1EqualityUSA
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joeyty
@1EqualityUSA: Me neither, probably. If you really think about it. How much really changes in ones life, except for us being aware of who’s in the White House or not ?
s
Pence is in charge of domestic policy, And foreign policy, too, Trump said. Trump and Melania are going to redecorate things and travel internationally. Moves to set anti-gay rulings in stone will be directed by Pence through a cadre of anti-gay Christian nutjobs like Huckberry, Sessions, Perkins and more. Trump may not be that anti-gay, more likely he just doesn’t care that much. Pence and the fouls will have carte blanche. And anti-gay rulings, disguised as religious freedom, will be among the first things they’ll do.
1EqualityUSA
ooh, s, tell us this story again, with a flashlight under your chin.
Bob LaBlah
@s: “And anti-gay rulings, disguised as religious freedom, will be among the first things they’ll do.”
For sick, twisted reason Obamacare is the first thing that MUST be dismantled. And rest assured, that will be first, followed by the supreme court appointees who will sail thru the destruction of a social experiment that over stepped its bounds in my opinion. I always did feel that it was wrong to invade the churches of those who are already crazy enough to believe its teachings.
Bob LaBlah
@1EqualityUSA: “The chance is slim, but if we could get some of the red states to change their electoral votes, we may be able to reverse this tragedy.”
That would be nice but the powers that be in the GOP (Ryan, McConnell) have dropped to their knees and kissed his (Trump) ass. What gets me is the Howdy Doody looking Ryan, who said BEFORE the election that he was not returning as Speaker of the House regardless of who won. The benefits, not the job itself, can be the only reason his even ran for reelection. He clearly does not want to lead regardless of who was/is in power. A wimp, in other words.
1EqualityUSA
I’m naming my next dog, “Faithless Elector.”
James Hart
Well at least we know that 14% of gays have a brain in their heads, while 86% are dolts.
brambleyo
The polls also said Clinton was ahead by 4% in most cases, but look what happened. Either way I’m glad not all gays are brainwashed. Maybe Queerty should read up on his actual policies and their effects instead of talking out their behinds
captainburrito
@leobaga: Change the Repub party? The Republican National Committee outlined ways they need to change but they were powerless when the party platform was written. When Trump let Tony Perkins and co write some of his platform he said with glee that Mitt Romney fought him on some things but Trump just let him at it. Trump has pledged to appoint SC candidates from a shortlist prepared by the right wing christians. I’m really not seeing how he is going to change the Repub party unless he declares war on them.
Franklin
I don’t get it. If a candidate ran on a platform of deporting all gay people, or said statements searches all gay people do is spread AIDS, you wouldn’t support him no matter what his stance was on other issues. Then 14% of you go and support a man who’s made horrible statements about Muslims, Mexicans, and women, and for what? This man doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he didn’t realky want to be president. You could tell by the look on his face at that first meeting with Obama that he knows he’s in over his head. He just wanted the publicity and the attention that went with the election. Well now he actually has to govern, and the people he is surrounding himself with are a nightmare.
joeyty
@Franklin: I agree with you about Mexicans and women, but why wouldn’t I support a guy who put down Muslims ? I’m gay.
joeyty
@Franklin: Are we supposed to be so self-hating that, when Trump criticizes Islamic homophobia re. the Pulse massacre, directly, (Hillary wouldn’t say it because she’s beholden to Huma and Qatar) I’m supposed to go against him for THAT ? No way ! Islam, and Muslims, suck.
EbonyOnly
Half of the people are happy and half of the people are sad.
We talk about tolerance, but our community doesn’t practice what it preaches.
We’re more concerned about pushing Gay marriage and whatever down people’s throats. If we would have called it Domestic Partnership with the same privilege there wouldn’t have been such a back lash.
WE as a community put Donald Trump in office. We pushed and pushed……and the people spoke.
Grow up or move out of the USA
EbonyOnly
@joeyty: I agree.
James
Gay republicans have no soul. They can talk all they want but they have no soul.
Sluggo2007
This blog needs to be renamed. I think “SHRIEK FEST” would work just fine.
Realitycheck
The lack of social responsibility in both the LGBT and Black community is truly despicable and the reason we lost this election,
and these community are the ones that will be the most effected by our new all republican congress.
Realitycheck
@Bob LaBlah: I wonder about Obama care, I have no doubt the GOP will take it down, but
that will make for 20 millions of really angry voters, not t mention all the business that swapped to Obama care to save money.
This could be the one item that allows democrats to retake congress at midterm elections.
ErikO
How did they figure out that 14% of LGBT people voted for Trump? It’s not as though when you vote or register to vote you list your sexual orientation.
ErikO
@Realitycheck: Obamacare is a disaster. The only people who liked it are people who mooch off the government or who are on welfare. If you actually pay for insurance, the cost of your insurance even at the basic level skyrocketed. A LOT of medical professionals including doctors, nurses, etc. hate Obamacare/ACA as it gives them lots of paperwork, gives them less time to see patients, and treats the doctor or medical professional as though they’ve got a revolving door. Socialized healthcare does work in some countries but not here in the United States as we have a very large population. I’ve heard from Canadian friends that it does not really work well in Canada either.
ErikO
@EbonyOnly: That’s very true that the LGBT community does not practice what it preaches. I was against Hillary and voted for Jill Stein and my fellow LGBT friends act as though I am personally responsible for Donald Trump being elected when honestly, people were sick and tired of Obama and Hillary did steal the nomination from Bernie Sanders.
Stilinski26
He also had less white votes than Romney.
GayEGO
The gay Trumpsters are probably not married and are bar room queens. My lifetime partner of 54 years and I got married in Massachusetts in 2004 and we believe LGBTs deserve equal rights, that is all. But we have a friend who believes in bar hopping to find tricks, give them a bang, and move on to the next one. Maybe he is a Trumpster, but I won’t ask him because with him it is a non-issue.
GayEGO
@ErikO: How about the years of paying Federal, State, City, Social Security, and Medicare taxes so as seniors we can have medical insurance? We pay supplemental medical insurance to cover the rest of medical expenses. Obamacare originated from Republican Mitt Romney’s Romneycare in Massachusetts and we don’t hear about that.
geoker
If there is one thing we have learned from this election, it is not to believe polls.
1EqualityUSA
One may even posit that Nate Silver “tarnished” his reputation.
Paco
@ErikO: Pretty sure that people with preexisting conditions and those that were insured and needing medical treatments,but were denied due to the cost, appreciated the ACA.
@GayEGO: There is also a segment of gay men that want us all back in the closet pretending to be straight so they can feel more comfortable in their own skin.
1EqualityUSA
Joeyty said, “If you never read the news or were away from all media, four years would pass and you would never know who’d been President anyway.”
I work with an underserved community. I see with my own twitching eyes the impact of GOP leadership.
Kieran
Only 14%? Haven’t we had enough bogus polls?
Bob LaBlah
@Realitycheck: “This could be the one item that allows democrats to retake congress at midterm elections.”
That won’t happen anytime soon. The democrats, just as the republicans, have a lackluster, uninspiring cast of characters whom need to be replaced and they both know it. I said before and say again Hillary Clinton was the most uninspiring speaker that could have ever been brought forth. The first thing what went thru your mind while she spoke was “does she really believe that people believe her”. At least SHE did. Those men and women currently in place are the equivalent of popes who have no intentions of leaving power or changing the status quo and they know it.
VampDC
Gay man here, 24, and voted for Trump. He is actually probably the most open minded in terms of gay rights of any republican president to date.
Also Hillary Clinton may appear good on paper but her track record is denying gay marriage in the 90s and 00s – and to this date accepting money from countries that would legally kill gays.
ErikO
@GayEGO: Nobody gives a shit about you or your “husband”.
1EqualityUSA
Spoken like a genuine Republican.
surfnspy
We can debate policy endlessly.
Should we build a wall?
Should we ban Muslims?
Should we stack the courts with judges to reverse marriage equality?
Should we criminalize women who get abortions?
Should we lower taxes on the rich to stimulate the economy?
But this debate is impossible to have because of the content of Trump’s character. He’s a bully. And maybe some young people didn’t grow up bullied, beaten and ostracized for being gay. If so, that’s a terrific victory right there. Much progress had been made since I was young. But the fact that the country elected a bully to represent us is a crushing blow for those of us who were tormented by this type of person. The abuse scarred us and it is terrifying to see someone spew vitriol and propose and support an agenda of fear and hatred. The pain that created these scars is brought back to life.
So if you’re not afraid of trump or a government that would curtail your rights, I’ll pat myself on the back for helping to create a safer world for you to feel so secure that you can feel so safe.
Alistair Wiseman
@surfnspy:
You are an hysteric.
MediaGuy
No Queerty, not 14%, I think you mean 40%. Maybe the NY Times, or was it CNN, didn’t enunciate clearly. Oh yeah, don’t forget unemployment is 5%. Oh, and she won the popular vote by 2 million votes. Yeah right. hahahahahaha. Liars, total liars. That’s why she’s now retired to Chappaqua and Trump is on the way to the White House. Nobody believes the BS anymore. (but, unable to stop, the media just keeps vomiting this stuff. Don’t you get it? THAT’S what hurt her).
1EqualityUSA
Rod Serling will step out from behind the shadows; Twilight Zone.
Dave084
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” …..Sadly a lot of good people did nothing in this election. Therefore we were given a grossly unqualified, inept sociopath as President. At the very least he has empowered the hate and vitriol of the alt-right, white nationalists, KKK what have you. Those are merely undeniable facts. Those who think that their support of Trump was a true exercise in democracy are as culpable in our demise as those who gave their blind support to Hitler. The best case scenario in this is that we have firmly established our desire to be an Oligarchy rather than Democracy. We have been our way down that road for a while. The worst case?….God save us from finding out.
BTW..to all of you gay Kapos who have come out like flies on a dog turd, don’t bother replying because I won’t read your mindless rantings anyway.
Alistair Wiseman
@Dave084:
You are an hysteric.