With the fate of a same-sex civil unions bill up to a handful of State Senators, anti-marriage equality activists descended on the Capitol in Honolulu late Sunday to rally against House Bill 444, which would allow gays and lesbians to have most of the same rights as married couples, under the umbrella of civil unions. The number of protesters who turned out exceeded even the organizers estimates, but their reasons for denying their fellow citizens equal rights are few and far between: Jesus said so, Gays will destroy their families and Gays will destroy their churches.
Apologies for not being impressed by the mob of angry Christians, but based on the Honolulu Advertiser report of the rally, it seems not one of them has anything to offer other up than ignorant hate:
“Here, we’re just opening the door to social upheaval without taking into consideration the ramifications,” [Rep. Dennis Arakaki,] said. “They’d have equal access and equal rights to programs and our education system. They might even force churches to lend out their facilities.
“I just think it’s going to open up a Pandora’s box of legal suits because that’s what we’re doing: We’re giving them these rights and they’ll have a cause to sue,” he said. “We can accept the lifestyle, but we don’t want to institutionalize it.”
Demonstrators clad in bright red filled the first level of the Rotunda and spilled out across the surrounding lawns.
Some took up positions around the block, holding signs that read “No Civil Union,” “Destroy the Core of 444,” “We Sed No Already” and “Turn to Jesus or Burn in Hell.”
Most packed tight around a stage set up in the middle of the Rotunda, where leaders from several different faiths exhorted listeners to call their legislators and submit testimony in opposition to the bill.
Just as the crowd itself presented a mosaic of disparate religious beliefs, so too did the various religious leaders at the microphone demonstrate a myriad of rhetorical approaches.
New Hope executive pastor and former state judge Elwin Ahu took a slippery slope approach, warning the crowd that passage of the bill would mean that children in public schools would “no longer be able to hold on to the values they are taught at home.”
Deacon Walter Yoshimitsu, chancellor of the Roman Catholic Church in Hawai’i, read a message from Bishop Larry Silva (who is in Rome) to state Sen. Bunda in which Silva called the bill “a travesty to the democratic process” that “ignores the will of the people.”
Kuna Sepulveda, associate pastor of Word of Life Christian Center, worked the crowd with evangelical fire, and even reinterpreting the state motto, “Ua mau ke ea o ka ‘aina i ka pono” (“the life of the land is perpetuated in righteousness”) as “The life of the land is perpetuated in godly righteousness” — a phrase she exhorted the crowd to repeat.
…Demonstrators shared stories, opinions and concerns with each other.
“This bill is an abomination,” said Judy Franklin, an associate with the Ministry of Brother Nathan Paikai. “It opens the door for innocent children in foster care to be taken into homosexual families — that’s one of my chief concerns.”
Nathan Paikai said he does not condemn homosexuals, but he doesn’t believe they should be able to enter into civil unions.
“I still have family that I pray will find the love of Jesus,” he said. “But now they’re trying to put their uncleanliness on me, and on my children, and on my children’s children. If they want to sin on themselves, if they want to do wrong, then do it on themselves.”
Why are conservatives constantly harping about the importance of personal responsibility and the strength of church and family, but the first to blame all their ills on gays and lesbians, who, in their eyes, could destroy the very fabric of society by, well- registering at Bed, Bath & Beyond?
POP MUSIC FORUM
dont these ppl have lives instead of trying to take away rights from their fellow human beings? wtf is wrong with THEM?
Ezekiel
I have to admit I’m sort of surprised that the Hawaiians are so against this bill. Having never been there, I always had this image of the Hawaiians as being kind of jolly and happy, not aggro and bigoted. That’s sad.
REBELComx
“Gays will destroy their families and Gays will destroy their churches.”
Oh, if only it were true…
Sebbe
Where the Mormons there too? They have a long and odd history in the state starting of course with missionaries in the 19th century and today running the state’s largest museum the Polynesian Cultural Center and the Brigham Young Campus on the windward side of Oahu.
How dare they steal the color red, the color of socialism and communism worldwide.
“John Zeuzheim, 40, of Hawai’i Kai stood near the corner of King and Punchbowl with a sign that read “Civil Unions = Yes” while a protester yelled warnings of hellfire and damnation at him.
“I felt it was important to be out here today because I believe every resident of the state of Hawai’i has a right to equal protections and equal rights under state law,” said Zeuzheim, a self-described “military brat” who was raised in a Catholic family.”
Sebbe
@Ezekiel – For the most part they are, don’t judge all 1.2 million Hawaiians by this vocal group. If you notice as well, it is mostly the white religious minority involved. The state is only about 25 -35 percent Christian I believe and whites make up something like 40 percent of the population.
Ryan
I live outside Honolulu, and I was surprised by how many locals were there actually. I had a feeling it would be mostly whites (there is quite a mormon population here)but it was a mix. I do think the mormon church, and other churches had something to do with it. A few of the big churches used their pulpit to tell people how to vote and when to protest this measure. A friend of mine, who attended a church like this, basically told the pastor he was extremely inappropriate to talk about politics at all and she wont ever return.
I can only hope that it goes to state vote. I think it would likely pass, narrowly.
flightoftheseabird
@POP MUSIC FORUM: Unemployment is kind of high in HI right now, so these people probably didn’t have anything better to do.
Jaroslaw
1. Jesus said nothing about same sex anything
2. I love to hear the Catholic Church talk about “the will of the people” which means as long as “the people” agree with the “Church” it is fine. When there is anti-Catholic bigotry, then the “will of the people” means nothing.
Mark M
What do you expect from a bunch of drunk, fat local losers. Next time I am there, I am going to dump as much trash as I can, and spray aerosal everywhere.
Ousslander
Damn those white people why cAn’t they leave the all loving good natives alone. They just evil. Instead of protesting shouldn’t they be smoking ice like the rest other hawaiins
donsnyc
Please make your voice heard, take the survey at http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/
and say yes to Civil Unions for gay couples. We may not be in Hawaii right now but our voice must be heard.
Tallskin
“My god, God is such a total shit”
So, have I understood this correctly this group of religious fuckforbrains are protesting NOT against gay marriage but against civil partnerships?
Pass me the cockroach spray, please.
Phoenix (Not Supporting Hawaii With My Filthy Queer $$$$ While On My Vacation)
Well, I guess I’ll be taking my filthy, tainted cash to Canada again this year. I guess Hawaii is going to be just like Jamaica; An island that doesn’t need LGBT cash.
KPC
@Sebbe: I live Hawaii. There is no majority of any racial group, the largest groups comprising about 20% of the population. As for the whole christian crap, there are a lot of free thinkers here, but sadly there are lots and lots of nasty churches that have a very large following among all racial groups.
@Phoenix (Not Supporting Hawaii With My Filthy Queer $$$$ While On My Vacation): As for Canada, I lived there a number of years and actually have dual U.S. and Canadian citizenship. I commend Canadian law for their progressive approach to multiple issues. But I believe and have experienced that just because a government imposes changes in the law, it makes very little difference in the attitudes of the citizens. Hawaii is a prime example, the civil unions bill has a very good chance of passing and if does may even be signed into law. If it does, the attiudes of the idiots in this posting will still be here, the hate and anger and ignorance will continue, as it does in much of Canada. Change only comes by speaking out and living our lives openly as we can. The changes we see around the world are only a result of individuals being open with friends, family and colleagues, not becuase some enlighted legislature passed a law (though I’m very happy for each law that gets passed!).
getreal
@Tallskin: God isn’t picketing anyone. I am as disgusted with these deluded, hateful people as you are. What I cannot fathom is why you feel the need to shit on those of us who believe in God. I believe in equality for all people black or white gay or straight religious or atheist. People should feel safe here if nowhere to be free from bigotry.
getreal
I mean if nowhere else
Jaroslaw
KPC – actually attitudes will change over time with Civil Unions. Vermont is now taking a serious look at marriage equality. Even the idiots apparently realized the sky has not fallen since civil unions were legal there. Plus, there is a subtle change that takes place when people have legal status, which is the point of fighting for it in the first place.
Charles J. Mueller
@getreal:
“God isn’t picketing anyone.”
Agreed. In fact, God doesn’t seem to be doing much of anything about all the injustices, all the bigotry, all the hatred, all the discrimination, all the lies, all the bashings, all the killings, all the wars, all the sickness, all the starvation, all the hurricanes, all the tsunamis, all the volcanic eruptions and lava flows …just yell stop when you’ve heard enough.
So. What IS he doing, besides ignoring all of the foregoing, that is? He doesn’t seem too omnipotent to me? Especially, when he is always begging us for money.
vernonvanderbilt
@Charles J. Mueller: “God” doesn’t do anything about these things because “God” (in the christian/monotheistic sense) is a self-serving fabrication based on cherry-picked aspects of the true higher power. The more a person or group tries to define that higher power and shoehorn it into a neat, little box, the more wrong they become.
The simple fact of the matter is that negative events and attitudes are just as important as positive ones as far as our development as a species goes. We cannot forget that nature is all about balance, and that balanced is not the same as fair. For every plus, there must be a minus.
That isn’t to say that we shouldn’t call out our enemies whenever we can. We (GLBT people) are still in the right, as we likely always will be, at least as far as issues of true equality are concerned. By eliminating people and attitudes that work against us, we reroute that negativity toward something else. That is the basis of social and spiritual evolution. The victims change, the hate stays the same. Perhaps someday the majority of humans will possess constructive hatred, rather than destructive hatred.