Are you a free-thinking, secular homosexual with a liberal streak still looking for a political train to hitch yourself to this election season?
Are you tired of the status quo, politics-as-usual, corporatocracy insert-buzz-word-here mess that’s led us to where we are today?
Well, Svartakorp has your answer: Trump!
Yes, that same combed-over bully that’s earned the endorsement of none other than Sarah Palin herself (what could go wrong there?), has won the vote of at least a handful of self-described “gay, atheist liberals.”
“Trump calls a spade a spade,” he writes, which seems to be the new code phrase for “He’s a racist, and that’s OK!”
Here’s his full pitch, which legitimately makes us queasy:
As I turn 29 this year, this will be the third presidential election I vote in, and yet another in countless elections for senate, representative, and local positions. What makes this race stand out is that it will be the first time I vote for a republican.
For the longest time I steered clear of the GOP because they have become the party of the Bible and of legislating morals. The party could not stop talking about private matters they should leave alone (religion, abortion, sexuality, marriage, adoption, so on and so forth). It was rare to find a GOP member who wasn’t explicitly bought by and pandering to the evangelical vote. Even the ones who weren’t always talking about it would simply default to “I support the party” when asked. Nobody was talking about the economy, the constant chaos in the Middle East, or anything else that mattered. As a gay atheist, I grew tired of hearing from the party that opposed my existence. Every election I voted in, I voted straight democrat (with an independent exception here and there).
I voted for Obama in the last two elections for the reasons stated above. The GOP didn’t present a good candidate, only more of the same. I wanted a president, not a pastor. I had my doubts, but held out a little hope that Obama would break away from politics as usual and address serious issues of the time (the economy, all of our foreign messes, etc). I knew he had failed on those promises even before the 4-year mark, but it wasn’t like the GOP offered anything worthwhile to run against Obama’s second term.
All while I was in school getting my bachelors and beyond, I was surrounded by die-hard-liberals who leaned heavily to the left, and they could do nothing but sing the praises of Obama and the democratic party. It was next to impossible to find anyone who disagreed because dissenters and fence-sitters were immediately shut down with labels that, in our social circle, were akin to a death sentence.
So why in the world would an educated gay atheist even consider voting for Trump in the upcoming presidential election? I consider it because I want to steer the GOP away from the status quo. I want to send a clear message to republicans that they’ve failed and they are a huge part (and really, the cause) of the problem. Preferably Sanders gets the democratic nation because I’d like the democrats to receive the same message, and he appears to be that side’s “message candidate”.
Trump calls a spade a spade. He is a candidate that calls out the real source of so many of this country’s problems. Our country is not in this mess because we don’t get along with our neighbor, not because we pray too little or too often, and not because we need more globalization. The United States is a mess because both political parties have been selling us out to foreign interests in exchange for their own personal profit and gain.
Is Trump as well-spoken as Obama? No, but look where smooth talking got us.
Is Trump as politically correct as Clinton (either one of them)? No, but look how political correctness makes honest discussion impossible.
Is Trump brash and occasionally offensive? Yes, but look how that weeds out people who are too afraid to put their foot down.
I know it is difficult for some people to take Trump seriously when they have nobody in their family or social circle that is open to it, but please, at least reach out to people and try. Test the waters. If you’ve made your decision, stand by it. If you’re undecided, stay open to unconventional candidates like Trump.
Remarkably, many in the comments section pick up where he leaves off:
I am with you OP.
I’m a gay, atheist, liberal, registered democrat with a master’s degree. I support Trump and Bernie at the moment because I want real change. If it’s between Hillary and Trump, Trump has my vote in a heartbeat. It’s refreshing to see a GOP candidate who is not a proselytizing fanatic.
I’m gay also and I stump for Trump. If you look back at the history of gay rights – it really only took off once gay people banded together and became a market. Poverty breeds homophobia, so it’s only natural that it would be in our interests to make America great AND rich again.
Also Muslims like to throw us off buildings so Trump’s pretty much the most LGBT-friendly candidate in that regard.
Oh, no. No no no.
Hey, I’m a gay Christian right-winger. Welcome to the Trump Train. There are no brakes.
And if you want to see what it really bubbles down to, there’s this comment:
In addition, about 99% of the refugees (and the global Muslim population) really oppose your existence. Trump is the only one who will completely stop them from coming in.
“Solid point,” someone replied.
At the very bottom of the forum, one lone voice of sanity rings out like a light attempting to guide a ship through a storm:
You don’t recognize the fact Trump is only out for Trump?
We have a shitty, shitty, political system here in America… I feel the Bern, but it’s gonna be Clinton (likely). She’s the lesser of two evils, if we’re talking about a Trump/Clinton face-off
Wouldn’t that make him a Gay conservative.
@Xzamilio: It’s no better on this side of the pond either. *sigh*
@Mark Angstman: I think this would make him a “self destructive” gay… not much different from gay conservatives.
That is one fucked dude and a disgrace.
He probably masturbates to fantasies of Trump yelling vile things at him. Must be a masochist.
Support Trump just enough so he at least comes a close second to Cruz if he does not get the nomination. His ego will make him run as independent and Cruz can then not win.
@Paco: any conservative who is also part of a minority is self-hating, so I think you are on to something
My lifetime partner of 54 years, married almost 12 years, are both retired and living the American dream. I do not know any GOP candidates that support marriage equality so I cannot support them. On LGBT equality, Tedwina Cruzy is a horrible, bigoted, evangelist, Trump is wishy-washy about marriage equality, and all of the others are against marriage equality. John Kasich says although he does not agree with marriage equality, he supports the SCOTUS decision in favor of marriage equality. Hillary and Bernie both support LGBT equality and I support Hillary first, followed by Bernie. Hillary is more experienced, the hoopla about Benghazi and emails have proven to be a waste of time and money by the GOPs. Bernie would be my second choice and hopefully one of them will become president. Trump says things that interest the public but he also seems more like a dictator which I have been against ever since Nikita Kruschev ruled Russia.
Nonsense. Trump panders to the religious right too for their vote. Any judge he puts on the SCOTUS will be against all LGBT equality. Trump flip-flops as much as any of them.
I admit, I’m a hard-core religious right-winger. That being said, if Trump, Cruz, Carson, or Sanders gets the White House, I’m going to try my best to gather funds to move down to Auckland.
32 Year Before Marriage Equality Bernie Sanders Fought For Gay Rights http://www.queerty.com/32-years-before-marriage-equality-bernie-sanders-fought-for-gay-rights-20150719#
No Republican supports LGBTQ rights. And any Republican elected can get Obergfell reversed simply by adding at least one more conservative to the Supreme Court. There will be at least 3 vacancies on the court within the next 8 years. Everything that has been achieved over the last 7 years will be for nothing. Think before you vote.
Aww yes, that moment when little lefty’s grow up. 🙂
He and some of the ones who agreed with him seem to think “Atheist, Gay, Masters (Or Bachelors) Degree” means they’re special and they know something nobody else does.
I also have a Masters degree yet I see Trump as little more than a screaming harpy PT Barnum with bad hair. Racism and that absolutely idiotic skewed view of “American Exceptionalism” popular among conservatives today are the glue that binds his followers.
Everybody is disappointing me lately. Trump had to pander to a bunch of conservatives re. gay marriage so they’d choose him over Cruz and the rest. And Obama had to go smooching up to homophobes at a mosque.
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he admires him because he ‘calls a spade a spade’? wonder if he’ll feel the same when he starts yelling at all the fags and dykes and queers (and i’m not talking about a game-show ‘shoutout’….’hey, girlfriend!! wassup??’).
Only a fucked up gay person would vote for Trump.
realistic picture, makes him look like the rat he is. No insult to rats meant
“So why in the world would an educated gay atheist even consider voting for Trump in the upcoming presidential election?”
Wow! This is about as close to ‘death-by-cop’ as one can get in an election cycle.
What surprises me the most about the Trump phenomenon is that people actually believe what he says, despite the overwhelming evidence that he’s proven himself to not only be a textbook narcissist, but also someone who’s master the art of twisting his words. Okay, he’s a pathological liar. He seems to say whatever is necessary to win. What we’re watching when we look at Trump is basically a marketer, and his product is himself and his goal is to acquire more power for himself. It’s not about helping the country; it’s about using his power to help himself. It’s just what he does. He’s a locust and the country is his crop. To see people who are gay give him support is incomprehensible in light of comments Trump’s made that’s shows evidently that he doesn’t support marriage equality, even so far as saying that he would consider appointing SCOTUS judges who would work at overturning marriage equality. But then the guy is pathological, so who knows what he actually would do.
Donald Trump whines endlessly when someone questions his massive, over-inflated ego. How in the hell does that translate to any sane individual as ‘calling a spade a spade’?
Megyn Kelly called a spade a spade when she took Trump to task and he’s been whining and moaning ever since. How can anyone in their right mind want someone with that temperament in the white house?
And look at this guy’s rationale… “Look what smooth talking got us”… Meanwhile overlooking gay rights advanced under Obama. Women’s rights advanced. Massive economic recovery that no one wants to give credit. The republicans were against rescuing the car manufacturing industry. They were against the stimulus (and still are despite the results). Hell they were against ending the asinine wars that they themselves started for no apparent reason whatsoever.
How can anyone claim that not only we need a republican president, but someone with Donald Trump’s emotional immaturity leading this country?
If we were really calling spade a spade we’d be calling out the republican congress. They’re responsible for sequestration, and government shut downs and voting 1,001 times over Obamacare rather than casting a single solitary vote relating to the economy as a whole. It’s not ‘both sides’, it’s one side specifically that’s gone absolutely batshyt insane. And you can see it their electorate as well… prioritizing attacking mexicans and closing planned parenthood and rolling back environmental regulations. That’s their definition of ‘making America great again’?
This fake ‘gay progressive’ is the exact type of person that gave us George W. Bush instead of Gore… and then spent the next 8 years pretending they had no idea where we went wrong.
After reading the article, I was hoping the poster would of outlined policies by Donald Trump that he thinks are good for the American people?
@Hussain-TheCanadian: Some policies, laws, and an outlook to what a Trump President will do for the American people would be great, however all I hear “I will win”.
That’s nice and all but what are you going to do about the mushrooming military spending, broken financial system, money in politics, taxes on the wealthy, foreign policy, and finally the economy?
These are not hard questions to answer.
Aka, a gay moron
So the braggadocious lies of Donald Trump bother you. Fair enough.
Does the catalog of CAREER lies of Hillary Clinton bother you? From lying about Whitewater to Benghazi, from Filegate to Emailgate, from lying to the grieving parents of the dead heroes of Benghazi, to lying to the American people about classified information that passed through her unsecured private server or the fiscal skullduggery of the Clinton Foundation. How about Hillary’s extensive record of bullying state troopers, secret service agents and worst of all, the victims of Bill’s sexual harassment and assaults?
It seems the career lies of a serial, rampant pathological liar seem to be less egregious when there is a “D” after their name.
There is a reason Hillary Clinton is the only First Lady in United States history to be fingerprinted by the FBI.
I’d vote for Trump over Cruz or Rubio. In fact Trump over rest of GOP only because I don’t think he is really anti gay and wouldn’t support discrimination on job etc because of sexual orientation. Trump is cultured enough to have known gay people as friends and business. I think the biggest concern is Ted Cruz who will try to demean glbt people to death.
I’m voting for Trump for the same reason gay guys are voting for Hillary. No reason at all except that I like him, he’s cool and he’ll be the next white (in Hill’s case, woman) president of the united states. Deal with it.
I will now proudly declare my love of Donald Trump.
@o.codone: Hahaha its like the ravings of a mad man. I mean this. Get help!
If you are gay and a supporter of any of the Republican candidates, then you are despicable and seriously disturbed. Those people, their supporters and the rest of the GOP hate you as much as they hate us. The only difference between us is they would allow you to get on the trains last when they come for us. Go and vote to destroy your rights and freedoms. It is your right after all.
Trump’s the sh-t for all the reasons noted in the article. My husband and I are both die-hard Trump fanatics. I hope he kicks Hillary’s ass. Anyhow, yeah.
Any of us in the LBGT community have to think seriously about our own future in America. Its taken a couple hundred years to get us even the most basic rights under our laws. I fear for Us as a group under a Republican President with a Republican controlled House and Senate..and then the eventual appointment to the SCOTUS of like minded religious bigots. Hey, do we really think that the advances we have made cannot be undone? Don’t kid yourselves my brothers and sisters. The vast majority of Republican Right Wingers, wouldn’t Piss on Us , if we were on fire. The Republican Party is not a party of Inclusion. I have been to some local party meetings here in Florida and posed the Question of Gay Rights, and Equality and believe me..I was shunted to the back of the room so to speak. You could smell the Queer Hate in the Room. Some of you younger people who grew up in the socially urbane metro areas..need to get a good whiff of that…its politically correct right now to have GAY friends…when the going gets tough..most heteros, will leave you in the parking lot, with gravel in your face. So if you are living in some Parallel Universe where Gay people are welcomed into hetero circle singing Cum By Ya…. Get on A Grip On Reality.
I don’t like Hillary so much..but she seems to be the only Candidate Capable of Uttering the Words LBGT rights. This so called Educated Gay Liberal, reminds me of the German Jews of the liberal ilk,,who dismissed Hitler, as an inconvenience.Gay and Republican are two words..that just don’t go together folks.
You stated, “Go and vote to destroy your rights and freedoms (if you vote Republican).”
I didn’t realize George W. Bush “destroy(ed)” all my “rights and freedoms” as a gay man. Before he was elected, that was all I heard was going to happen – just like I’m hearing now.
You progressive lefty’s need to grow a pair. A bunch of microaggression, safe-space lovin, drama queens.
What many people fail to realize is that there is this little branch of government called congress and while all these grandiose promises that Trump and Crus and for that matter Bernie are telling us everything has to be approved thru congress and do you really think congress is going to pass all this far right and far left leaning legislator? Please. We need a president (and congress for that matter) who will make compromises and is willing to work together for a common goal. The problem is that there is no candidate like that. So we are going to be in the same sort of government gridlock as we are now. Trump is a businessman and doesn’t realize that if congress or other world leaders don’t agree with him he can’t just fire them. Plus he is tacky as hell. Can you imagine him wife as First Lady??? Well she getting pretty old it’s about time he trade her in for a younger model like he did with his other two wives.
Voting for Trump is not the way to “send a clear message to Republicans” that their party has failed. Voting for a Democrat is.
@Alistair Wiseman: You haven’t been listening to to the Republican candidates who have vowed to reverse same-sex marriage? It won’t succeed, but Trump has said he would appoint Supreme Court justices who do just that.
You haven’t been listening to the Republican party for the last 43 years?
The Republican party has been trying to overturn the landmark abortion ruling Roe v. Wade for the last 43 years. It hasn’t happened, has it?
Through five Republican administrations it hasn’t happened. Take your fear-mongering, sky is falling, liberal bullshit and sell it to some other gullible fool.
Trumps no more for gay rights than Muslims are so that’s not a valid point. Political
Correctedness does not mean the end of a discussion. It brings the possibility of a civil discussion
Dear God. I had really hoped that those of us who are gay, or at least those of us who are gay progressives (majority of gays) would somehow escape the wave of increasing insanity that is ravaging this country. I see I was terribly wrong. How could any even semi-intelligent person seriously consider voting for a self-serving, narcissistic ego maniac like Trump? Even if he believed the shit he spews he could accomplish virtually none of it as President. If Republicans gain the White House and keep both Houses we will be fucked beyond all recognition. If Trump hates China and others so badly why are all of his over priced branded products made in foreign sweat shops? He only cares about something when it serves him, that’s why. Democrats are certainly not perfect but they are infinitely better than anything calling itself a Republican. And if you think the economy sucks so bad you have a terribly short memory. The economy has always performed better under Democratic administrations and Obama’s is no different. Stagnant wages and underemployment are matters of corporate greed and made possible by a fucked tax code which also rewards outsourcing. Guess who refuses to change those tax codes? Republicans
@Daniel Salmeron: I’d say Trump IS a little more for gay rights if he’s made donations to Cyndi Lauper’s charity and actually attended gay weddings.
@Alistair Wiseman: Yet they’re trying to close planned parenthood clinics over fabricated/non-existent videos.
Which is the party of fear-mongering exactly? Who exactly benefits by removing women’s options for pre-natal care?
Conservatives in general just do not think logically. That’s how you end up with an entire party swearing up and down that scientific evidence that disagrees with their dogmatic rhetoric is somehow a liberal plot.
Love the thumbnail pic. Looks like he’s ready to finger his opponents.
Look at where the “economy” was when Obama took office, and look at how he not only rescued the US, but has presided over millions (14+ million) new PRIVATE SECTOR jobs, not government jobs (because of the austerity imposed by the GOP). He did this in spite of continuous GOP opposition, which began even before he took office. There are many things I will criticize Obama about (the drone wars, failing to close Guantánamo, prioritizing the rescue of the banking system over the 99%, continuing neoliberal policies in education and trade, not doing enough to aid African Americans who supported him in record numbers, etc.), but over all, when it comes to LGBTQ rights, turning the economy around, dealing with the horrific foreign policy messes George W. Bush created and left, etc., he has been a good president.
Not a single Republican running, and certainly not Donald Trump, who has made overtly [email protected], misogynistic and transphobic statements, has put forward policies that would improve upon what Obama accomplished. Not one. In fact, they’re advocating on doubling down on Bush’s failures: more tax cuts (and deficits and debts), more wars (endless, which they profit from), more deregulation (leading to another financial collapse), and more homophobia and sexism. NO THANKS!
No liberal in their right mind would support someone like Donald Trump. The guy is a fascist that plays on the ignorance and fears of the American electorate. Gay people in America have a lot more to fear from evangelical christians than from Muslims several time zones away. Look at who are the ones constantly trying to legislate their religious believes into other American’s lives.
Anyone who doesn’t admit that the US economy and gay rights is better now than it was when Obama stepped into the Oval office is lying.
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