As producers of Downton Abbey announce the end of the series is approaching , it’s appropriate that we’re about to see the much-anticipated finale to the Congressional career of one of its biggest fans, Aaron Schock.
The 33-year-old Schock, a once fast-rising star in the GOP party who has recently endured enough controversy, scandal and innuendo to supply the writers of the British costume drama with plots for an entire season, will resign at the end of the month and delivered his farewell address to Congress today. Naturally, it didn’t go off without a hitch.
The former Men’s Health model implied that he intends to continue with public service. “I leave here with sadness and humility,” he said. “For those whom I’ve let down, I will work tirelessly to make it up to you.”
Then the other shoe dropped, as Schock compared the questions he’s faced over his lavish spending to the hardships witnessed by the nation’s 16th president.
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“I also know that every person faces adversity in life,” Schock revealed. “Abraham Lincoln held this seat in Congress in one term. But few faced as many defeats in his personal, business and public life as he did. “His continual perseverance in the face of these trials — never giving up — is something all of us Americans should be inspired by, especially when going through a valley in life.”
Watch Schock’s peace out below.
Rob Ridings
well, they likely had ONE thing in common…..LOL
tampaed
Both Lincoln and Schock have Closet Issues. Maybe it’s time for one of them to come out..
Riess Livaudais
Schmuck
Giancarlo85
Delusions of grandeur… it’s a common problem among phony republicans.
Paco
He should have compared himself to Nixon. I don’t think history remembered Lincoln as being a crook.
Billy Budd
He is a nobody, a “has-been” like Perez Hilton likes to say.
Giancarlo85
Lincoln would be a democrat today. Everybody knows that. The republicans today basically would be the Confederates of Lincoln’s time.
Schock is exactly like Nixon. He should have cited Nixon… but then again even Nixon had more humility in the end to admit:
“The interest of the Nation must always come before any personal considerations.” (Excerpt from Nixon’s Resignation)
Schock is such a crook and phony he couldn’t even realize this.
NG22
@Giancarlo85: Also, Nixon actually, you know, accomplished things. Opening to China, EPA, ending the draft, etc.
Desert Boy
? The party’s over
? It’s time to call it a day
? They’ve burst your pretty balloon
? And taken the moon away
? It’s time to wind up the masquerade
? Just make your mind up the piper must be paid
TheNewEnergyDude
Don’t let that doorknob hit ya, sweetie…
Look forward to your “broke straight boys” porn…
LadyL
There are plenty of reasons why I should have no sympathy for this guy, I know, but a small part of me feels badly for him nevertheless. You have to wonder if things would have come to this if instead of closeted and scared Aaron Schock had come to public office out and proud.
How much of the financial shenanigans and profligate spending has been some sort of twisted retail therapy for a person who has been living perhaps his entire young life in denial? Is it likely he would have backed anti-gay policies if not for the desperate hope that doing so would protect his secret? Would he even belong to the Republican Party?
What a waste.
Giancarlo85
@NG22: You’re right about that. Schock has accomplished absolutely nothing. He probably should cite Herbert Hoover.
Billy Budd
Schock being dethrowned does not schock me in the least bit.
Xzamilio
@LadyL: Who cares? Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda… it’s what he actually did that will be his legacy… and as it currently is, it won’t be an admirable legacy. You don’t have to wonder because reality’s too busy kicking his ass… and good.
Low Country Boy
A good Southern expression: “A gentleman always knows when it is time to leave a party.” Good thing Aaron has never had his reputation sullied by being called a “gentleman.”
Demitrius Wolfe
Someone should shove a cock in his mouth so he’d just “Shut the Fuck Up”.
Alex Rothwell
A big ego to say the least.
NoCagada
I’d compare him to Lincoln, alright…they both seem to have a hole in their head.
markgtx11
He went to Congress to fight government overspending? Too bad he didn’t start with himself. Hey pot, meet kettle. You’re black.
martinbakman
@Giancarlo85: Actually, Giancarlo85, Hoover was a self-made multimillionaire. He didn’t enrich himself by being a Congressional money wh@re.
Hoover worked to save millions from starvation after WWI and WWII. And Hoover was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize 5 times.
So, perhaps Hoover isn’t quite an accurate comparison when discussing someone like Schock.
Giancarlo85
@martinbakman: Hoover was a lousy President whose inaction only perpetuated the Great Depression. He was a lousy administrator. An absolutely fair comparison.
Saint Law
@NG22: Sobering to think that Nixon was to the left of Obama.
stanhope
Now all of y’all know Andy Cohen has called this trick. LOL I am quite certain that there have been many late night production meetings and table reads for a potential new reality show. Since Andy Cohen has been outed by Anderson Cooper as a COUGH top, Aaron has surely been on Andy’s radar. Look for the fall TV season’s “America’s Next Top Bottom” on BRAVO.
jwtraveler
Buh-bye.
Evji108
Sashay Away Gurl
Realitycheck
@NG22:
>>@Giancarlo85: Also, Nixon actually, you know, accomplished things.
>>Opening to China,
Why is that good??? China is the largest polluter in the world and has
depressed the entire world economy by stealing jobs and business from every other industrialize country, and it is still producing toxic products,
but that is the least, China Military now spend almost as much as the USA and its already flexing its muscles.
The vast majority of Chinese believe China will eventually attack Japan,
do you have any idea what kind of repercussion would that have?
World War III
Cam
Never put forth a bill but had already moved to a Jr. Leadership position. Sounds like there are some OTHER closeted folks in his party who had a crush. Or maybe they just like his spending patterns.
AxelDC
I suspect that Schock’s next public speech will be peppered with the phrase “I plead the 5th”.
Jim Fortier
Makes him look more like the unethical idiot that he
BJ McFrisky
I had to read the comments on this article to get my daily dose of haters being hateful.
Thanks for that, guys. You never let me down.
Xzamilio
@BJ McFrisky: You have the majority of us pegged… we’re haters!!! Now, do you care to elaborate on the “haters” tag, or is that all you can say because you know you cannot defend him or his actions? I’d love you let you down, though… right over shark tank.
NJjoe
He IS an unethical idiot. I don’t believe in “outing” people, but when it comes to Washington, I am a supporter of the issue. I’d enjoy nothing more than an outing campaign on this douche. All of his former “male companions” he took on official State business trips stepping forth. Yet, I doubt that would ever happen. I would bet there are more skeltons in his closet than Count Dracula. I’m not a hater of this schmuck, I hate the the fact the he used his power going in so many ways. Going as far as to redecorate his office to Downton Abbey (WTF??) at taxpayer’s and private expense.I am disgusted by his anti-gay voting record. He has been on my gaydar for quite sometime. There are more closet cases in Washington than we’ll ever know. Buh-Bye Aaron Schmuck.
Sweet Boy
Next time we´ll hear from about him is because he was caught tapping his feet at bathroom stall in some Grayhound station
Cam
@BJ McFrisky: said….”I had to read the comments on this article to get my daily dose of haters being hateful.
Thanks for that, guys. You never let me down.”
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BJ once again not only defends all anti-gay bigots, but apparently feels that it is perfectly fine if people steal huge sums of money from the taxpayers as long as they are Republicans.
Please explain your continued defense of somebody who has now been proven to have stolen large amounts of tax dollars.
Bauhaus
@Cam:
” Or maybe they just like his spending patterns.”
Or maybe the other closet cases just like the patterns in his outfits.
Bauhaus
@BJ McFrisky:
Aw. You get your daily dose in your own twisted mind.
Giancarlo85
We are haters because we criticize an unethical crook who embezzled millions of dollars of taxpayers money? Love that demented logic. The entire Republican party is stealing from this country… Check out their latest sick excuse of a budget from the House of Representatives. It gives millions to the super rich… Tax breaks, bribes, and all sorts of other crap.
BJ McFrisky
@Xzamilio: Sure, happy to elaborate.
Regardless of what you think, Aaron Schock was not elected by the gay community to go to congress and pass gay-friendly laws. He was elected by the people of his district six times (gay or not) to represent them and their politics, but for the haters (see above comments), they see it as a personal attack on them. It’s not, because he never claimed to represent us—in fact, he never claimed to be gay, so labeling him as the haters do is purely conjecture. And for those who claim they’re incensed by his lavish spending, give me a break. Obama has raised the national debt more than every other previous president combined and you never even blinked (and let’s face it, had Barney Frank’s office been similarly decorated, you’d be cheering his impeccable taste, costs be damned).
ps – Swimming in a shark tank would be a cake-walk compared to being gay but refusing to toe the liberal line. Proof? Get a gander at the responses someone like me gets on a site like this. You bitter queens don’t want to influence my opinion to agree with yours—you want blood for daring to think differently than you do. Hence, the tag “haters”.
NJjoe
@Sweet Boy:
Nah, he’s too much of a pretty boy. He obviously hasn’t had a problem with make companionship Trolls like that other closet case (his name escapes me) that got caught in the airport stall resort to Greyhound stations and airport bathrooms. Aaron Schmuck won’t have to take that route, but I see your point.
NJjoe
Edit: “male companionship,” not “make.” opps.
Giancarlo85
@BJ McFrisky: And the lies continue. This doesn’t have to do with the gay community, but the entire country. Schock was stealing and embezzling money from taxpayers for elaborate office makeovers, trips, etc. He is a hater of the common person who pays their taxes. He stole from the common person. I know reading comprehension is a extremely difficult subject for to grasp. This is more than just lavish spending… It is proven embezzlement.
And Obama didn’t raise the national debt more than any other President. The one who passes appropriations and spending bills are Congress. When Republicans took over they started passing lavish spending bills. The President doesn’t write these bills. Republicans forced these spending bills through with a threat of shutting down the government. You don’t have a clue how much Republicans are stealing do you? They gutted all sorts of financial regulations in order to serve their real masters… The corrupt bankers and corporate crooks.
Nobody is hating on Schock. We just don’t like Republican criminals.
Cam
@BJ McFrisky: said… “Regardless of what you think, Aaron Schock was not elected by the gay community to go to congress and pass gay-friendly laws. He was elected by the people of his district six times (gay or not) to represent them and their politics, but for the haters (see above comments),”
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One thing you can ALWAYS depend on, when BJ or any of this other screenames provides actual numbers they always lie. Schock was elected 3 times, not 6. But nice try.
And remember who BJ is defending, somebody who stole Hundreds of thousands of Taxpayer dollars for his own personal use.
Xzamilio
Great…so I get flagged? Nice lol
Xzamilio
Never mind. Just read the TOS again… surprised I haven’t gotten flagged a lot more lol
I’ll be good, Queerty.
Uppity
@NJjoe: This guy is so deeply closeted that I don’t think any skeletons will be brought to light. There have been no revelations so far. It’s possible the only guy he’s been with is the photographer who accompanied him on trips, and that guy has gone to ground. Don’t assume just because Schock has a hot body that he’s been having sex with multiple guys on the down low. Like I said, he will be a deeply closeted individual. His departure from politics will be the best thing for him. Further down the track, away from the public spotlight, he may be able to be who he truly is. I just hope that if that happens, he’s able to publicly apologise for his anti-gay politics.
Dennis C. McGrath
Wilbur Mills?
Jerry Payney
dude just needs to come out of the closet already…..
MCHG
I think some points being made here are being misconstrued. Aaron Schock is a crook, that much is certain, and therefore he deserves to be drummed out of congress in the ugliest of fashions. However, some people are using the discovery of Aaron’s unethical behavior as cover for their criticism. There aren’t close to a dozen articles on Schock on this website because we very recently found out he’s reckless with his spending. The majority of articles mock Schock for being a probably gay man with a difference of opinion. Schock is a republican, who ran on the republican ticket, and was elected bya largely republican district to enact republican policies. How some convinced tthemselves that this guy is supposed to vote any other way than the republican way when it comes to gay issues is beyond me. Harassing people out of the closet does nothing to convince Republicans not to pass anti gay laws, it just prevents gay men with the “wrong”political affiliation from living theirlives on their own terms. People who think someone losses their basic human right to privacy and self determination when they vote different from then need to read up on how a democracy works.
SteveDenver
What a pompous idiot.
Lincoln did not face hardships because he misappropriated funds.
Cam
@MCHG: said…. “it just prevents gay men with the “wrong”political affiliation from living theirlives on their own terms. People who think someone losses their basic human right to privacy and self determination when they vote different from then need to read up on how a democracy works”
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A message to the Log Cabin Trolls. People would take your posts more seriously if you didn’t work so hard to try to hide what “Vote Different” meant.
Just to be clear, when Schock “Voted Different” he voted to deny LGBT’s jobs, he voted to kick gays out of the military, and he supported keeping LGBT’s second class citizens by denying them rights.
Please stop trying to hide attacks on people’s civil rights as “Voting different”. It’s obvious, and frankly pathetic.
onthemark
“For those whom I’ve let down, I will work tirelessly to make it up to you.”
Is there a suggestion box?
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: FALSE ON ALL COUNTS!
“The majority of articles mock Schock for being a probably gay man with a difference of opinion.”
This site mocks Schock for embezzlement of taxpayer money.
“How some convinced tthemselves that this guy is supposed to vote any other way than the republican way when it comes to gay issues is beyond me.”
Nobody is saying he should vote differently. What people have an issue is with him is on his unethical, corrupt behavior. He took advantage of his constituents by lying to them. His constituents aren’t educated and intelligent enough (hence why they vote republican) to see that fact. So they elected him three times…. pathetic.
“it just prevents gay men with the “wrong”political affiliation from living theirlives on their own terms.”
How can you vote for a party that hates you so much? The republican party is the wrong political affiliation for EVERYONE. Nobody who has any sense and intelligence should vote republican. Republicans are bad for this country, bad for the economy and just passed one of the most idiotic moronic budgets I’ve ever seen. Increases to the military, and cuts to education and health. Yeah, and we see why America consistently ranks last among OECD countries in both aspects.
“People who think someone losses their basic human right to privacy and self determination when they vote different from then need to read up on how a democracy works.”
Except republicans are all about people losing their basic human rights. Maybe you should pay attention to some facts. By the way, Schock is a PUBLIC FIGURE who should fall under scrutiny.
You need to open your fucking eyes a bit.
Dwayne Byrum
What a disgrace not only to the country but to the LGBT community as well.
Steverino2
This is the “best” selfie comparison since Dan Quayle(remember him? who??) had the chutzpah to compare himself to JFK.
Captain Obvious
Why can’t she just quietly have many seats and stop embarrassing herself even further?
Ho, sit down.
MCHG
@Cam: here’s how civil rights work, if they are granted to you by the constitution or the supreme Court they are civil rights. If they are subject to public debate then they are clearly not. I don’t agree with Schock’s position on most gay issues, which is why I would never vote for him. That’s how a democracy works. When you disagree with someone, YOU don’t vote for them. You do not harass them into silence by using their sexuality as a weapon. Schock’s sexuality has nothing to do with the validity of his political stances. You have a very hard time understanding the fact that gay people have every right to disagree with you, which is why log cabin republicans are “trolls” in your eyes. Because there’s only one valid political ideology for gay people to have. How wonderfully regressive of you.
MCHG
@Giancarlo85: Um no, this site only recently started mocking Schock for his ethical dilemmas. There are posts about Schock here dating back to 2013. Shock resigned in 2015. You do the math. So because someone is a public figure they deserve to be endlessly harassed? So if someone hounds and mocks Sam Smith or Tom Daley you would totally be cool with that? I know you hate and despise republicans but guess what, your opinion ain’t shit. People disagree with you, boo hoo. We live in a democracy, don’t like it, then leave it. How arrogant of you to presume what’s best for others.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: You are just like the rest of the illogical log cabin types. You don’t make a coherent argument. Nothing more silly than a log cabin nutcase. Harassed? His corruption has been known for quite some time. Your stupid right wing shit opinions don’t mean anything in the end. You will always end up on the losing side. And I am not silencing anyone you stupid arrogant prick.
And I will tell anyone who votes for Republicans are fucking themselves. I can and will tell them they don’t know any better, unless you are a wall street crook or someone who makes eight figures or more. Any average person voting Republican is a fool with no clue.
Nobody is being silenced. Learn how to read for once instead of going back on that oh poor me argument. When you voice stupid views, expect criticism. You right wing clowns are not immune to criticism. Freedom of speech works both ways. And nobody’s civil rights are being violated. Republicans love violating civil rights though.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: Log cabin Republicans are hypocritical idiots who are better off staying in the closet. They vote for party of fanatical bigots. Talk about being self hating. Log cabin Republicans have done nothing to help the gay community, except being little nasty embarrassments who backstab LGBT people. If they voice their stupid illogical views they will get criticized.
That is something you lunatics don’t grasp. Freedom of speech goes both ways. Nobody is being silenced. You are being criticized. If you cannot handle the heat get out of the kitchen.
MCHG
@Giancarlo85: his corruption has certainly not been known for some time, which is why the FBI chose to investigate now rather than any other time in the past. Always end up on the losing side? Like we did during the last midterm elections? The only candidate the democrats have brought forward for the next presidential election has spent a lifetime mired in scandal. Your political determinism holds no weight. Threatening politicians with a flagrant violation of their privacy if they vote a certain way on gay issues is most certainly an attempt to silence someone. Again, YOU might feel a certain way about republican policies, but the overwhelming majority of the country that is politically active does not. Please respect that. The rest of your hateful comment speaks for itself. I do agree that LCR are better off in the closet, because with friends like you queens, who needs enemies?
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: Are you really this braindead? Do you do any of your own thinking? There was suspicions about Schock for quite a long time, and this all blew over. The republican party couldn’t keep covering for him.
You don’t win general elections. Yes, now we know your true colors. A biased revisionist tool who is an LCR type. Thanks for falling flat on your face. You are boasting about the last midterm elections? And what was the result of those elections after the fact? A Congress that still couldn’t do anything, asides from pass a “budget” that doesn’t benefit anyone except military contractors and the super rich.
Oh, and you’re a total putz if you think Hillary has “spent a lifetime mired in scandal”. Take a look at your shitty candidates that keep dropping like flies because of corruption and scandal. Don’t throw stones from glass houses please. And I’m not a democrat. I’m not of any particular political party.
There is no “flagrant violation of their privacy”. Bigots need to be exposed as the hypocrites they are. You are a hypocrite and a nasty one at that. You are also a self hater. And overwhelming majority of the country that is politically active does not? Are you bullshitting yourself? Is that why you don’t win general elections anymore? You are a total fucking liar in every respect. I don’t have to respect anything about clowns who vote republican.
You are a self depreciating ignorant fool.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: And everytime republicans try to go after hillary they fail. There is a reason why she is still the most popular one in this country and the one that will be sworn in as President in 2016. No republican shitbag that is being pushed will do so. But of course a self hating hypocrite like you would vote for Ted Cruz.
Republicans are shit for the economy and the whole country and a majority of the country knows that. And please don’t try to claim “the overwhelming majority” when it wasn’t. The last midterm had some of the lowest turn-outs in history. But in the general election, turds like Cruz and Jebby won’t win.
Giancarlo85
The overwhelming majority of this country that is politically active thinks republican policies are SHITTTTTTT. TOTAL FUCKING SHIT. Lets stick to reality.
Kangol
Bye, Felicia!
MCHG
href=”#comment-891441″>Giancarlo85: how do Republicans fail? Republicans just forced media coverage of her deleting government emails, coverage that ended with a subpoena of her servers. Most consciously aware Americans know her to be a pathological liar, from whitewater to travel gate, not to mention bringing her in the white house means the return of bill Clinton, whos in a bit of trouble for hanging out with a registered sex offender billionaire. Also, I’m not a Ted Cruz supporter. The tea party isn’t really my thing. And yes, the majority of Americans self identify as conservatives so in fact the majority of Americans agree with the GOP.
http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/623987
Now lets see your hateful head explode.
Bauhaus
@MCHG:
How do Republicans fail?
According to your Newsmax reference, here is the Republican brag sheet:
The top 10 conservative states include Mississippi, at 48.9 percent, the most conservative state; followed by Alabama, 46.5 percent; Louisiana, 45.7 percent; Utah, 44.6 percent; Arkansas, 43.8 percent; Tennessee, 43.2 percent; Montana, 43.1 percent; Idaho, 43 percent; Oklahoma, 42.9 percent; and South Carolina, 42.3 percent.
Enough said.
Bauhaus
@MCHG:
From which of those beloved conservative states do you hail?
Cam
@MCHG: said..
@Cam: here’s how civil rights work, if they are granted to you by the constitution or the supreme Court they are civil rights. If they are subject to public debate then they are clearly not.
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Ok BJ’s other screename, lets get one things straight. Women’s right, racial equality, marriage, etc… all are civil rights, the fact that bigots and rac-ists have tried to have them be debated for votes doesn’t change that fact.
And again, lets please all acknowledge that all MCHG (BJ) is doing here, is defending somebody who voted for bigoted legislation and stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from the U.S. taxpayers he was supposed to represent.
He will go to his limit to defend any bigot, or thief as long as they are a republican.
BJ McFrisky
@MCHG: Your stand against the engrained liberalism among us is refreshing, but FYI, arguing with these angry birds is akin to arguing with three-year-olds: No matter what facts are presented to them, they will always believe what they want, and will rationalize it in any way possible (they think those of us who dare to be gay but not liberal must all be self-loathing bigots). They’ve been brainwashed into thinking anyone who isn’t a dedicated Barack-sucker is out to destroy them—except for the Muslims who throw us from rooftops, of course; they’re off-limits, because, you know, it would be r@c!st to object to a minority killing a minority, or something like that (a great example of their PC-itis is the fact we have to misspell “r@c!st” for it to appear on this site). The good news is, there appear to be more like you and me posting comments that show the world we’re not all sycophantic Democrats (although, in the mind of the paranoid liberal, we of course must all be one & the same person using different names).
G’day.
Giancarlo85
Please get something better to back up your non-existent points.
And as far as your attacks on Hillary Clinton. There is no scandal. She did everything within the rules. Her personal email account is her own. Funny how you demand PRIVACY for Schock when he misused funds, but when it comes to Hillary’s PERSONAL EMAIL nothing is off limits. You are a massive hypocrite. You try to go back in history but nothing has ever stuck.
Then again you hail from the disgusting political party known as the GOP. The party of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Three of the most corrupt Presidents in this nations history. And ironically the last 3 out of 5 republican Presidents. The only pathological liar here is you and your elk. You want to know about corruption… well here we go… I’ll post better links that have some credibility:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/17/157477/-List-of-Reagan-administration-convictions
The Reagan administration had approximately 138 convictions, indictments and/or investigations occur towards corrupt staff members. Reagan himself didn’t take the fall… afterall the guy couldn’t even remember his own name in his second term. Notable convictions in the Reagan administration include Lyn Nofziger, Michael Deaver, James Watt (This guy was classy… 41 indictments), John Poindexter… and the list goes on and on.
The other two Presidents I name are pretty self explanatory. Do I really need to go into the history of Richard Nixon going back to his corruption as a Senator up until Watergate which saw him resign? I didn’t think so. But I will go into the criminal Bush administration republicans urge us to forget.
Giancarlo85
https://suzieqq.wordpress.com/2008/01/03/criminals-in-the-bush-administration/
Criminals in the Bush administration who have been either investigated, indicted, and/or convicted include Steven Griles (Abramoff criminal connection), Scooter Libby, Brian Doyle and so many others.
Abramoff? Remember him?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/jack-abramoff-scandal/
This was a scandal that engulfed mainly the republican party. And this isn’t a make believe scandal that you have tried to pin on Hillary. This one ended in criminal investigations and indictments.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abramoff_scotland3.jpg
Republicans want us to forget about all their corruption, but it never seems to end. Chris Christie has fallen out of favor because of a mas-sive corruption within his office involving staffers. It isn’t even Bridgegate I am talking about (Christie really didn’t have a clue what his staffers were doing like a certain previous Republican).
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/01/15-chris-christie-controversies-you-missed-101999.html#.VNgj3qX2HwI
Giancarlo85
@BJ McFrisky: Your stand against mental stability and reason is well noted on here. You stand for hypocrisy and mindless insanity. You and MCHG or whatever his name is… are hypocrites and you are have the intellectual skills of a 13 year old. You are the one that is brainwashed. You are not capable of thinking on your own. That is what is expected from the right wing drones on here who repost the same garbage over and over again. Maybe if you had some original thoughts, we could have more of a discussion.
Oh and I forgot another part of my last post:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx
31% identify as democrat, and just 25% identify as republican.
In reality, this country may be looking more like California politically in about 10-15 years. This is excellent news because California has a working legislature, a governor that knows what he is doing and no republican party that has any real sway asides from being spectators.
http://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article2599841.html
The republican party in California has completely disintegrated. This happened because of massive scandals, an unpopular prior governor (don’t elect B movie actors) and a party that is simply out of touch with reality.
So maybe in your state of Alabama or whatever state you live in is majority conservative… but even that is under threat. The cities in red states are becoming more and more democrat. Even look at Texas… you have democrats being elected in cities like Steve Adler, Joaquin Castro, and Julian Castro (who recently became Secretary of HUD).
So no, most Americans are not conservative and most certainly aren’t republican. You’ll find it harder to win even midterm elections in the near future… the victory of the 2014 midterm (with its miserable turn-out) will be a distant memory. You won’t be winning any general elections either with your candidates that are trying to run.
Giancarlo85
“And yes, the majority of Americans self identify as conservatives so in fact the majority of Americans agree with the GOP. ”
25% is a majority wow lol… no they don’t. You don’t even get a majority of independents. 55-60% of independents tend to vote democrat.
Such a delusional little man.
sectbrawn
Did he present congress with a check made out to the IRS for all the money he stole? If not he needs to STFU
patricko
It didn’t sound to me like he was comparing himself to Lincoln. It sounded to me like he was pointing to Lincoln as a lesson. The headline of the article might better have focused on the audacious irony in Schock pointing out his supposed efforts to reign in bloated government spending from the perch of private jets and $85,000 SUVs!
Cam
@BJ McFrisky: said… “@MCHG: Your stand against the engrained liberalism among us is refreshing, but FYI, arguing with these angry birds is akin to arguing with three-year-olds:”
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BJ, perhaps you should see a therapist. After all, talking with another of your screenames and pretending it is somebody different than you could be seen as Schizophrenic.
Please remember, BJ’s only point here on this post, is that he is defending anti-gay bigotry, and somebody who stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from his constituents for personal use.
BJ supports that.
Giancarlo85
BJ and MCHG support a political party that have had ten times more the number of investigations, indictments and convictions than the democrats. I am not saying the democrats are clean, and some like Leeland Yee are better off gone (Yee was replaced by Alex Padilla as a candidate for Sec. of State anyways). The democrats are overall better in just about everything (from job growth to infrastructure) than republicans.
I suppose the last decent republican who helped a public sector boom was Dwight D. Eisenhower lol. Eisenhower’s greatest accomplishment was also appointing Earl Warren to the Supreme Court… he called it his greatest mistake, but I think he secretly knew he meant the opposite lol.
The last 4 or 5 republican Presidents have been either shit or mediocre. I suppose Gerald Ford was alright in some sense. Reagan, Daddy Bush, Dubya, Nixon… shit shit shit shit.
Is this the best republicans have? And in the last two Presidential elections you had a senile old man and a super rich man who had an utter hatred for a majority of this country run for office.
Bravo, MCHG and BJ you should be proud of yourselves… or should I say yourself? Congrats on supporting the most corrupt political party in modern history.
MCHG
@Cam: my what a conspiracy theorist you are. Your inability to believe that there can be more than one member on this site who disagrees with you is a testament to your incredibly large ego. Do yourself a favor since you’re so obsessed with the log cabin Republicans. Go to their website, look at the faces of their members, and realize that they’re not all BJMcFrisky in disguise. Yes Cam, there are dozens of gay men who disagree with you *thunder and spooky music*.
Giancarlo85
Daddy Bush’s greatest foreign policy accomplishment was throwing up in the lap of the Japanese Prime Minister. Dubya’s greatest domestic policy accomplishment includes choking on a pretzel and having a race track owner as head of FEMA. Because we all know a guy who couldn’t even operate a race track owner would just make a great person to help people in times of need. I’m being a little sarcastic about Dubya… we all know his administration was marked with more failures than one could list.
And yea, many of the same people in Congress today were tied directly to Dubya and his administration… and now we have Jeb running for office. As if two Bushes weren’t enough… the GOP had to give us another.
Yes, the solution to the issues facing this nation is electing more of the same screwballs who got us in this mess to begin with. MCHG and BJ want us to believe that republicans have some kind of master plan to save the entire world… when in reality the only plan they have is to line their pockets and keep the interests of their benefactors protected.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: You are the one with a large ego. And nobody is obsessed with log cabin republicans. Heck, log cabin republicans aren’t welcomed anywhere… not even at republican conventions. Nobody wants them around lol.
And where are these dozens of gay men on here who disagree with those who are logical like Cam? I can’t seem to find them. MCHG + BJ = 2 people (if you aren’t the same). I think you need to retake some math classes.
Giancarlo85
Republicans created ISIS. The whole intervention in Iraq led to the mess and sectarian violence. Dubya was helping out Al-Maliki who had years to move his country on the right course. Instead Al-Maliki’s extreme favoritism led to the creation of ISIS. Republicans caused ISIS and are indirectly responsible for everything wrong in Iraq today.
Bush lied, thousands died… and now we have to deal with ISIS. It’s called blowback.
MCHG
@Giancarlo85: I couldn’t care less about Hilary’s private emails. Unfortunately for her, she chose to mix her private and work emails because she “didn’t want to carry two phones” (what a rubbish answer, as someone who’s checked multiple email accounts on one device). She then wiped her entire server clean. Totally not suspicious. Unless Schock had sex on his desk or in a government car, then the two cases are incomparable. I also don’t know why you’re holding me responsible for the convictions in the Reagan and Bush administrations, given that I didn’t vote for either man. I fully support that criminals, regardless of their political affiliations, face the full weight of the law. Abramoff served his time and since then has done amazing things in the way of exposing government corruption. The FBI investigated Chris Christie and determined he had nothing to do with bridge gate, so unless you have better investigation skills than the FBI, I’ll take their word over yours.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: You don’t have any proof of that. You are exaggerating claims. Those were personal emails. You are invading her privacy (using your logic). Your argument is non-existent and will end up falling on its face. Hillary didn’t break any rules. The rules weren’t changed until a year after she left office. So she did nothing wrong.
Reagan and Bush… many of those republicans are still walking around today, and in your political party that you support. Criminals are tens times more prevalent in republicans today. I already said Christie had nothing to do with Bridgegate, but some of his staff did… and that shows an incompetence in his office. Asides from that he’s lost a lot of popularity and has had other scandals.
Giancarlo85
This guy seems to have all the answers. He deflects all the valid points. He doesn’t pay attention to the facts. The same corrupt assholes are still in charge of the GOP. And then he makes excuses about Abramoff and other shady characters. Never mind the entire GOP is in the pocket of two billionaire brothers.
MCHG
Giancarlo85: I don’t have any proof of that? REALLY? Because Hillary didn’t just hold a press conference confessing to mixing her private and work email and her lawyer didn’t just say TODAY that she wiped her server clean. Must be my imagination.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/27/politics/hillary-clinton-personal-email-server/
My logic is what happens in someone’s bedroom (they have locks for a reason) is their own private business. When you are serving the government and emailing the president, heads of state, ambassadors, etc. you can’t turn around and say that email account is private because you were also sending invites to your daughter’s wedding and sending yoga routines to your girlfriends.
Be honest with yourself, how many Republican staffers are walking around from the Reagan administration? Because if there’s more than a few, someone should let those fossils know that it’s more than okay to retire now.
And honey, ISIS created ISIS. We’ve been at war with many countries, there’s only one region of the world that has produced those backwards religious zealots. Radical Islam started with Muhammad and has only grown since.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: You are full of shit on so many levels. Did you even read the article that you posted? There is NOTHING wrong or AGAINST THE RULES that she did. The rules weren’t changed until ONE YEAR AFTER SHE LEFT her office.
There were no rules of disclosure, as those rules of disclosure weren’t fully implemented until a year later. Are you just this stupid and can you not read? You are just a fucking loser.
I was also talking about the Bush administration and that was recent history.
And honey (don’t you fucking call me that), republicans created ISIS. Republican policy created ISIS. Don’t be an ignorant idiot. The war in Iraq allowed the creation of ISIS. Iraq would have been better off with Saddam… and not Al-Maliki and ISIS. 400,000 dead Iraqis because of your political party, and that’s all you have to come at me with?
Grow some fucking nuts and use your brain for a second if possible.
Giancarlo85
Clinton broke no rules. I’ll say that again. You have nothing on her.
And your rant about Reagan being long ago… those old fossils still control the political party you actively support. And those old fossils have their sons in charge too.
Your political party is a pile of shit and don’t for a second come on here thinking you’ll convince anyone.
At least there is one old fossil in this country who has a clue… Jerry Brown. Maybe he should run for President. That would make you shit your pants.
Giancarlo85
http://staugustine.com/news/2015-03-25/jeb-bush-had-another-email-account-while-florida-governor
Blah.
I guess it’s fine if he does it. Cause he’s a REPUBLICAN.
Giancarlo85
By the way, if you knew your history… Islam had a golden age (take the Moors in Spain) and were often ahead with scientific and medical achievement and advancements. They often did this while Europe was in the dark ages.
MCHG
@Giancarlo85: did I say Hillary broke the rules? You don’t have to technically break the rules to be extremely shady, as these experts point out to PolitiFact.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/mar/12/hillary-clintons-email-did-she-follow-all-rules/
Jeb Bush gets away with it because he 1) was governor, not secretary of state and 2) willingly released his emails not long ago and put them online for everyone to see.
Also, it’s laughable to suggest that 1) anyone controls the republican party and that 2) it’s staffers from nearly three decades ago. Reince Priebus is head of the RNC and he never worked for Reagan. Neither did John Boehner. The two Republicans with the highest influence in the party have absolutely nothing to do with Reagan. I’m also not sure why you’re so hung up on Reagan staffers. Those that committed crimes are either in prison or served their sentences already. Those that committed no crimes should not be made to pay for the misdeeds of their colleagues.
The “Dark Ages”, in the sense of Europe being terribly regressive when other cultures flourished is largely a myth. Here’s a link debunking some common misconceptions about the dark ages.
http://www.medievalists.net/2014/06/27/15-myths-middle-ages/
Also it doesn’t matter if Islam, in a tiny sliver of its history, did some good in the world. It hardly makes up for the existential threat its posed to civilization for many years.
I’ll say it again, ISIS created ISIS. We’ve been at war with many countries and none of them, except for Iraq, have resulted in an uptick of radical terrorist groups. Bush knew terrorist groups would try to go l fill the power vacuum left by Saddam, which is why he wanted to keep a strong military presence in the region until things stabilized. Obama not only refused to do this, he refused to listen to his generals when they were warning him of ISIS, and instead referred to him as a JV team. All the criticisms you made of Bush in respect to Iraq can be made of Obama in respect of Libya.
Cam
@MCHG:
See the problem with you and your other screename (BJ) is that you spend so much time either playing the victim, or deflecting from the topic that you have lost the ability for straight forward comments. The reason for this is that because you know there is absolutely no defense for what you are doing.
And what you are doing is defending anti-gay bigotry, and a Congressman who stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from his tax paying voters.
Again, you have posted multiple times, attacking anybody that dared suggest that Schock did anything wrong. You are defending stealing from taxpayers, and anti-gay bigotry. That right there says what you are about. (All of your screenames).
End of story.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: A bunch of misleading crap again. Hillary has committed no wrong doing. You call it shady because you are driven by an agenda. Your entire argument is agenda based and not based on facts or logic. That is the mindset of most republicans. Jeb didn’t put all his emails out and had a different email address which he hasn’t released.
And it isn’t laughable at all. The republican party is controlled by the elite, and in particular two very wealthy donors. Most of funding for the republican party relies on a few wealthy donors. Priebus is a nutcase himself… and is tied with the Bush adminstration. Highly convenient you forget the Bush name, must be really toxic. I am not hung up on Reagan staffers. The Bush legacy merely carried on that toxicity. You seem to suffer from severe reading problems… but then again republicans love forgetting names… like Scooter Libby.
Thanks for that garbage historicial revisionist source on Europe. Hardly the reality. But then again you think lots of facts are myths. Islam has had substantial contributions to the world of astronomy, science and medicine. You cannot revise history and deny that fact.
http://international.loc.gov/intldl/malihtml/malihome.html – These manuscripts were highly prized in one of the largest libraries in the world (and in fact they say this library in Mali exceeded that of any Western European Library for centuries).
No, republicans created ISIS. They created ISIS because they need to please their military contractors. More terrorists means more need for arms, meaning more money for the defense contractors that have republicans in their pockets. By the way, Bush never did any sort of the thing. He said “mission accomplished” and wanted out of Iraq because it was politically toxic. Americans were coming back in bodybags because of the lies people like you perpetuated. You are a fucking liar in every sense of the word. None of the criticisms I made can be directed at Obama because he didn’t start that highly illegal war. And he did the right thing by getting our troops out of there. Or else we would have seen tens of thousands more Americans dead. You are a selfish arm chair idiot who has no understanding of the region.
Giancarlo85
@Cam: This moron is incapable of reading. I clearly brought up the Bush administration as continuing the criminal legacies of the Nixon and Reagan adminstrations. He says I’m hung on the Reagan administration. The kid clearly has some sort of reading problem…
http://politicalwire.com/2015/01/14/priebus-says-bill-clintons-personal-life-is-fair-game/
And then he brings up that monstrous idiot Priebus… yeah, hypocrisy is evident in the republican party.
MCHG is an idiot phony neo-conservative… he probably thinks of Dick Cheney in his dreams and thinks Iraq was a “success” until Obama “messed it all up”. I think he has a gross distortionist view of history.
Giancarlo85
Cam, when I say moron I’m referring to MCHG. Maybe he is a different person… but I don’t know. He could be someone BJ McFrisky brought here. MCHG obviously has some very delusional viewpoints of the world.
And MCHG is a reason why most people in other Western countries laugh at America. People like MCHG are evidence as to why our educational system is so badly failing its citizens. George Carlin said it right… soon to get into college all you’ll need is a pencil.
I don’t have time for someone who is in such deep denial about history and then bullshits his way into voicing support for republican party. It’s funny how he couldn’t name a single republican he would support for the Presidency in 2016. That’s because just about all of them are toxic.
LadyL
@Xzamilio: “It’s what he actually did that will be his legacy… and as it is, it won’t be an admirable legacy.”
I don’t disagree with you. I’m just thinking out loud what a tragedy and a train wreck a closeted existence leads to. If Schock were a sixty-something pol his actions would be no less reprehensible but I’d at least understand it in generational terms. But he’s young. It didn’t have to be this way.
I know: woulda coulda shoulda.
Bauhaus
@Cam:
You said to MCHG: “you spend so much time either playing the victim, or deflecting from the topic that you have lost the ability for straight forward comments.”
And there it is. His entire playbook. That’s troll, right-wing strategy. The Republican Party campaigns and wins elections using this very same technique. They do it because THEY CAN’T WIN THE ARGUMENT!
MCHG
@Cam: how am I defending Schock’s stealing from taxpayers and his anti gay views when I’ve already said both are wrong. You seem to think that if a politician does something you don’t like, you can do anything short of murder to attack them for doing so. I disagree with Schock’s policies, therefore I’m glad he’s out of office. I am disgusted by the fact that he stole from the taxpayers, which is why I want him to face the full weight of the law. Nowhere in either situation does Schock’s sexuality come into play. And yes Cam, there is only one gay person on the planet that disagrees with you, and it’s BJ. It’s absolutely impossible for anyone else to disagree with you, even though it’s happened numerous times all over this site. And it’s not like this site wouldn’t ban someone for using multiple accounts, especially if those accounts were sharing unpopular opinions. Funny thing is I remember you using your terrible multiple screename deflection against people on this site back when I was just lurking here. It gets a little old and paranoid after a while.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: Goodness me… you seem to be running in circles… like a little dog trying to catch its tail. Now you’re backtracking. If you were so disgusted with Schock stealing from the taxpayers, are you disgusting the republican party for doing the same thing?
I don’t care whether Schock is straight, gay or bi… it isn’t my business. But what I do care about is the constant lying and stealing the republican party engages in. Schock is only apologetic because he got caught.
Keep chasing your tail though and keep it up with the lies. I’ve already proved you wrong on so many different issues. You and just 25% of America who identify as republican can keep your ignorance.
MCHG
@Giancarlo85: you can think I’m driven by an agenda if you like. Is PolitiFact driven by an agenda? Are the experts that they cited driven by an agenda?
You do know that the biggest political donors are democrats, right? You sound just as bad as the Republicans who cry about George Soros. Campaigns are a multi million dollar effort. If it bothers you so, then support campaign finance reform. Then dems and the gop can get their broke constituents to donate money to campaigns instead of rich people with disposable income.
How is Priebus a nutcase? What are you basing this on? And I didn’t forget about Bush. We were however, talking about the Reagan administration because of the large number of convictions. My views on the Reagan staffers apply to the Bush staffers as well. If they did nothing wrong, they have no contempt from my part.
Your comments on ISIS are on par with 9/11 trutherism. The idea that this country would knowingly send it’s soldiers to a manufactured war is conspiracy theory at its dumbest.
I would support Rand Paul for 2016.
Revisionist history? Are you high? It’s widely acknowledged that the term “Dark Ages” does not signify a regressive period in European history. A simple Google search would show you this. I also never denied that Islam has made some positive contributions to the world, I simply pointed out that the negative greatly outweighs the positive.
I don’t know why you’re trying to equate Priebus opinion with my opinion. I don’t think Bill Clinton’s personal life is relevant unless he breaks the law. Clinton was impeached, not for having a tumultuous personal life, but for perjury. If Aaron Schock perjures himself and it leads to his personal life being exposed, I won’t have any sympathy for him.
Carlin was a great comedian, he also exaggerated for effect, like all comedians do. I have no problem with dumber kids making it to college. It seems to me like they’re the ones who need the education and the credentials the most.
MCHG
@Giancarlo85: Backtracking? Read my first comment, idiot. Two sentences in I condemned Schock. And I’m the one with reading problems lmaooo
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: You are a total buffoon. I don’t even know why I bother. Are you recycling your posts and rearranging words? Everything you post is agenda driven bullshit.
The democrats mainly get small donations and far many more individual donations below $500 then Republicans. Republicans are overwhelmingly reliant on a few big billionaires.
I am not a Democrat and certainly not a Republican.
I was talking about Bush staffers, dummy. And also many Republicans tied to the Bush administration. Not just Reagan era staffers. You suffer from severe reading comprehension problems.
By the way, learn what blowback means. You being the nasty neoconservative you are, should realize actions have consequences.
You are an idiotic fucking moron that has no understanding of history. You are typical of American stupidity. You are evidence as to why the education system is failing so miserably.
You stupid ignorant brain dead fuck. I have just about had it with you. Do you regurgitate your same posts over and over? Do you have any original thoughts?
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: You are a fucking illiterate moron. My god… Rand Paul… You are even more fucking stupid than I first thought. You right wing Americans are all the same.
You can’t fucking read at all. You didn’t even address most of my post. Go back to lurking. People like you are too stupid to even comment. Read and respond to what I write, not what you think I write.
Ignorant asshole.
Cam
@MCHG:
Ahhhhh yes, the old ” But I said it was wrong” comment. Yes, a few words, usually followed by 5 times as many words attacking democrats, or claiming the people on here were hateful for daring to make the comments or saying that the behavior was wrong but what a poor victim and how can people on here be so mean.
If you can’t just state flat out that the guy supports bigoted, anti-gay laws and stole tax money without trying to then deflect onto an attack on the other party, then that is simple troll bait.
Oh, and the part about you pretending to know what I’ve said to BJ before because you were “lurk8ng” and not because you are another screename………..nice touch.
MCHG
@Cam: you claimed I defended Schock when it came to his use of taxpayer funds. I did not. Reading the first comment I ever wrote on this post will tell you that. I don’t know what the rest of my comments have to do with that one fact.
I have no confusion as to why people here are mean. It’s a gossip site. Unlike other sites (like Data lounge) that openly admit that the point of the site is to be rude and catty (“pointless bitchery”) some here pretend that their snark is some sort of dignified act of labor for the LGBT community. Therefore I have no problem pointing out the derangement of hounding politicians, celebrities, etc. out of the closet. Every sensible gay person understands what a callous and hateful tactic outing is.
I dont know why you can’t fathom the idea that there can be more than one person on a site with dozens on members who disagrees with you. I don’t know what advantage you think a person has by having multiple accounts on the same website to argue the same points with the same people. I do know that when I was lurking on this site I did take notice of quite a few people, such as yourself, with such a terrible disposition, that it motivated me to make an account. Maybe I just don’t want the next person lurking around to get the impression that the gay community is a petty, hateful community that will commit one of the greatest acts of violence you can commit against a fellow gay person if you’ve got the “wrong”opinions.
MCHG
@Giancarlo85: on what planet do democrats not get rich donors? Like I said, Democrats get more big money donors than Republicans.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/blue-billionaires-on-top-114151.html
But quite frankly why does it matter? Political campaigns are multi million dollar efforts. The average Joe from either party should feel relieved that people with expendable income are picking up the tab.
Like I said, my opinion of Reagan and Bush staffers is the same. As long as they haven’t broken the law, they’re free to work for whomever they please.
Where was the blowback from the Nazis? The Soviets? If Muslims are the only group we have been in combat with who have reacted so irrationally and disproportionately, then it shows that radicalism is endemic to Islam. Those people blow each other up in their own countries without interference from the US. Sorry if I forget to shed a tear for people who kill their own.
I have no understanding of history? You flat out denied that the Dark Ages happened the way they did.
What other parts of your profanity laced post would you like me to address? The way you gleefully mentioned Bush 41 throwing up, perhaps?
Bauhaus
@MCHG:
You’ve not only got wrong opinions, you vote for and identify with the cretins who openly and proudly deny LGBT folks basic human rights. Stop playing victim, changing the subject, and one-upping the misdeeds of narcissistic politicians. Face it straight on. You hate yourself. Your mean neo-con family is ashamed of you. Parroting the ideology your stupid family spews is self-defeating and exhausting. There is no justification for voting for a person or party that believes you shouldn’t exist. None. Tell that to your family. You have no friends, I suspect.
By the way, the banter on this site has interesting and well thought out comments. We are smart, humorous, proud, biting, hilarious, and even poignant, at times. Sometimes, I read the comments and laugh until it hurts. Anyone coming to this site will notice something we have in common: our impatience for hypocrisy, closet-cases, and for homosexual men (self-loathing LCR types, who vote against their own self-interest and that of other LGBT folks). Our taste in men may differ on here, but not for the kind of man who can’t stand himself.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: You have no clue. Democrats get more small donations than Republicans. You keep ignoring entire sections of my posts. You don’t know how to read. And the Republican party is in fact controlled by the Koch brothers, who basically bankroll certain candidates (for example, Gorell versus Brownley in California).
And you are too stupid to understand the term blowback. The Nazis? The Soviets? What the fuck are you talking about? The US helped armed the resistance against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Many of those mujahedin fighters ended up being part of the Taliban. You are a stupid neoconservative who drums up for war. This is all you want without thinking of the consequences. You are being ridiculous.
You made up everything about the Dark ages and pointed me to a historical revisionist website. You are nothing more than an incompetent liar who will go to any lengths to defend Christianity. You are a moron.
And yes you do have wrong opinions. You cite articles that don’t back up any of your no points. You then go on stupid tirades without using your brain. Maybe if you should spend more time thinking about the garbage you post… And not post anything anything at all.
No wonder other people in the world look at idiotic Americans like you and laugh. Fucking know it all.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: Noboby is committing acts of violence against you. They are merely calling you out for the misinformed delusional idiot you are. I really wish you were straight. All you right wing psychopaths do is say you are the victim. What a pile of crap.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: You are rude and disgusting yourself and your opinions are destructive to the gay community. You are NOT sensible in any sense.
Cam
@MCHG: Oh Boo Hoo! You are SUCH a victim! All you do is support anti-gay bigots and defend the thievery of tax dollars and people DARE to disagree with you. How will you EVER bare such a thing?!
MCHG
@Cam: when did I say I couldn’t bare it? And I’ve cited twice now how I don’t support Schock’s politics or crimes. If you deliberately choose to think I have an opinion other than the one I clearly expressed in my first comment on this site then I don’t know what to say.
MCHG
@Bauhaus: my family is neither homophobic nor politically involved. Your problem is assuming that you know the best interest of gay Republicans and men who for one reason or another don’t feel like telling a bunch of strangers their sexuality. By the way, I SEE YOU CAM, I SEE YOUR OTHER ACCOUNT! (Nothing against you personally Bauhaus, just pointing out how Cam’s conspiratorial thinking goes both ways).
Bauhaus
@MCHG:
Wrong. My problem is this: patience. I’ve no patience for self-loathing homosexual men. None.
I know which party has the best interest of LGBT, and from which side civil rights and marriage equality originate. There’s no debate there. None.
As far as your family not being homophobic, you’re a pathetic liar, just like you’re tragic disappointment to them.
Giancarlo85
@MCHG: You always need to get the last word. Stop manipulating what others say. You keep reading into things they didn’t say. I’ve lost my patience with you a long time ago.
Gay republicans are self depreciating and hypocritical. They have no place in the LGBT community and don’t help anyone with their contradictory votes. They are hurting the rest of us, and most of all they are hurting this country. The republican party isn’t good for ANYONE except the super rich.
You are not a victim and nobody is silencing you. But we do have a right to call out bullshit when we see it.
The republican party hasn’t done a fucking thing for the LGBT community asides hurt us in any kind of way they can. Indiana’s governor and republican dominated legislature is an example of that. Then I look at California’s Governor and Legislature. I see them helping gay people and helping the entire state. We had a series of republican wingbag governors (Reagan, Deukemajian, PETE THE ASSHOLE WILSON, Arnold “Bang the Housekeeper” Schwarzenegger). This state is still recovering from the damage these fools caused. Pete Wilson is one of the worst governor’s this state has ever had… even worse than Reagan. I can’t even begin to describe the damage that corporate sell-out did…
Cam
@MCHG: said… “@Cam: when did I say I couldn’t bare it? And I’ve cited twice now how I don’t support Schock’s politics or crimes.”
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No, what you have done is make one minor concession and then use it as a chance to deflect from the topic of the post by direction attention away.
The fact of the post, Aaron Schock voted against civil rights, and he stole taxpayer money. End of story. Done. Your multiple additional posts trying to add in ANY other topics do not change that fact.
Giancarlo85
@Cam: ” Aaron Schock voted against civil rights, and he stole taxpayer money.”
Well to be honest the republican party does that on a daily basis. 🙂
darian
@Cam: @Giancarlo85: Haha wow.
Giancarlo85
The troll MCHG has said he supports Rand Paul.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rand-paul-moral-crisis-gay-211107471.html
““Don’t always look to Washington to solve anything,” said Paul. “In fact, the moral crisis we have in our country, there is a role for us trying to figure out things like marriage, there’s also a moral crisis that allows people to think that there would be some sort of other marriage. And so, really there’s a role outside and inside government but the exhortation to sort of change people’s thoughts has to come through the countryside, from outside of Washington.”
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Yup. This is the self centered drunk douchebag this troll supports. He’s probably going to say… “but… but… but… I’m not a SINGLE ISSUE VOTER” (or some other bullshit like that).
What excuses now?
There was only a “moral crisis” for these right wing clowns after women were allowed to vote, interracial couples were allowed to married and segregation ended. And now gay couples marrying… oh the horror.
MCHG, don’t expect us to go easy on you. You are supporting someone that is explicitly against the gay community.
1EqualityUSA
Giancarlo85 and Cam, thanks for being on d-bag alert while I was at work. Love it.
BJ McFrisky
@MCHG: Welcome to the (comically intolerant) neighborhood, where (far-left) ideology trumps (gay) identity every day.
1EqualityUSA
McAnn McCoulter?
Cam
@BJ McFrisky: said….”@MCHG: Welcome to the (comically intolerant) neighborhood, where (far-left) ideology trumps (gay) identity every day.
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You heard it here. BJ thinks that not wanting a politician to pass discriinatory/Anti-gay legislation, and to NOT steal from taxpayers is “Far Left Ideology”.
You GOP trolls really must hate America and Americans if the idea of not stealing, and civil rights is THAT upsetting to youl
Giancarlo85
@BJ McFrisky: Oh you poor little thing, always the victim right? Gay identity found its roots in left wing politics and liberation. Take for example, the main protagonist Mark Ashton was a communist (the film didn’t really mention that).
The political right hasn’t done anything to help gay people. They are out to hurt us… And to hurt the entire country.
Giancarlo85
@Giancarlo85: Oops. Was talking about the movie pride, which was largely powdering over certain facts.
Gay identity has been tied to left wing politics since the early days of activism. This is a fact.