Sorry Gokey, but America wanted Adam Lambert and that cute twin Kris Allen to battle it out in next week’s American Idol finals. But we’ll be seeing you on the tour so, uh, there’s the consolation prize. Next week is when the real fun begins, as Kris and Adam croon their way into our living rooms and text messages. And if Adam comes out, ahem, on top? He’ll be the first gay American Idol! You know, besides Kelly Clarkson.
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Adam Lambert’s 50 Percent Chance of Becoming First Openly Gay Idol
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dgz
kris allen…
i’ll say it again: dave matthews > john mayer > kris allen.
(> = greater than.)
facial contortions, and that pop-technique yodel-crack at the beginning of EVERY NOTE. he’s a clone of every guywithguitar i’ve ever seen at starbucks’ open-mic.
i’m sorry, i’m sure the dude’s a great guy, but if he wins because of gokester spill-over i will gouge out my own eyes.
Alexa
At least Hokey Gokey is gone and the fundies will have to switch to a new, much more gay friendly Christian to defeat the evil gay in the final. I’d listen to Kris over Mayer or (blech) Matthews any day. I still want Adam to win, though, and not just because he’s gay, he has an amazing voice and I love watching him perform.
Gregoire
Kris Allen is more Jason Mraz, actully. And he is naturally talented, as is Adam. Either of them winning is fine by me. As long as gross Gokey is out of the running, I could care less who gets the title. A fine final two, for once.
Jeff
I don;t know how you can call Kris Allen gay friendly Christian. Other than whats shown on the TV you have no idea what hes like in real life. After all he does belong to New Life Ministries Ted Haggards old church that believes in ex-gay therapy.
broadway_baby
@Jeff: “Other than whats shown on the TV you have no idea what hes like in real life.”
Well, in just about every interview Adam and Kris have done, they have both talked about what close friends they are, and their excitement over both being in the finale seemed very genuine. On the results show last night, Kris’s mom even ran over to Adam’s mom and gave her a big celebratory hug. Unless they’re all really good liars, seems pretty gay-friendly to me.
dgz
@Jeff: i don’t know about gay-friendly per se, but apparently last night adam had one thumbnail sans black nail polish, and kris had one painted thumbnail. make of that what you will.
Alexa
It’s even possible meeting Adam changed Kris’s views on things, though apparently someone who runs a Kris board has been saying all along that Kris and Gokey were very different types of Christians (but don’t quote me on that, I heard it second hand from a Kris fan). It’s obvious from the way they all interact that Adam and Kris are very close, and that Adam and Gokey are not. For example, when Adam was sent to sit with them both last night, he rushed over to Kris and hugged him for a long time, then sat down barely acknowledging Gokey. He also said in an interview that he and Gokey have different views and agree to disagree.
Dabq
Never seen this show, but, is the kid really out, gay , out proud and super talented, or is it just gossip and innuendo?
dgz
@Dabq: he’s gay enough for Bill O’Reilly to hate him.
there are also pics of him kissing dudess all over the internet.
Dabq
@dgz: Thanks, and good luck to Adam Lambert if he can get Bill O to hate him, makes me want to watch the show and vote for him!!
AlanInSLC
@Dabq:
I’ll second that. I do watch the show, but didn’t know about the Bill O thing. Anyone that makes Bill upset is someone I’ll support. Unless of course they are rapists or murderers. 🙂
mark
Adam deserves to win, he is the best performer. It would be a MAJOR problem for American Idol if he is denied the win, cuz he’s gay.
RobinNYC
I’m just thrilled that there are two musicians in the finale, as opposed to a musician and a glorified wedding singer. Both Adam and Kris have musical intelligence, both are extremely talented in different ways, and both deserve long careers.
Though I refuse to call anyone a douche…I will say that Gokey seems to speak douche as a second language. And I’m glad he’s gone.
Gino
(a) Thanks for spoiling it for us in other parts of the World 🙂 – we’re two episodes behind you and (b) he’d better win. Damn he’s brilliant.
Queerky
What was up with the teenage girl who ran topless on stage in San Diego? If a person is a fan one assumes they are interested in all aspects of the artist. A fan reads the rumors. Is she in serious denial or does she really believe she has a chance?
RobinNYC
Was she really a teenager? Cause in that clip, those t*tties looked peri-menopausal to me!
Gayalltheway
Don’t forget to vote for Adam next week!! We want our OUT & PROUD gay American Idol – not like Kelly Clarkson!
And did anyone notice that Katy Perry was wearing a cape with Adam’s name on it during her performance last night? How’s that for endorsement?
@DGZ – yeah i noticed that Kris has his thumbnail painted too. What the heck was that all about? A little bromance in the Hollywood mansion perhaps???
Gregoire
Oh God, are you people going to scream anti-gay bias if Adam doesn’t win? I have personally grown weary of his theatrics and will most likely throw my support behind Kris.
But whatever happens, I want people judging him on his artistic merits. I don’t want Adam winning because he’s gay for the same reason I don’t want Adam losing because he’s gay.
kademonster
haha kris is my cousin, and i’m still voting for lambert 🙂
dgz
@Gayalltheway:
i know, right?! perry’s blatant plug was surprising (and welcome). as for kris, according to USA today, he and adam are good friends and were roommates during the show. adam and gokey… not so much.
@Gregoire: no, i won’t scream anti-gay bias. but i *do* want adam to win partly because he’s gay. if i were focused only on talent i would (a) not be watching american idol, and (b) be obsessed with allison’s loss, because she was clearly the best vocalist, even with her nodule-ridden larynx.
i want adam to win, and be flaming gay, and shove it down america’s willing and eager throat. i want him to convert the adoring masses to a gay-positive view the same way that ellen, suze, rosie, and wanda have made people think warm, fuzzy thoughts about lesbians. why? we have NO gay male icons. none. no, doogie houser, an ex-n-syncer, and a secondary character on a medical drama are not icons. i want a household name, someone who straight kids actually think is cool.
high expectations? yes. realistic? perhaps not. if you like kris better, fine, vote for him. but don’t kill my dream.
D-Sun
After Kelly Clarkson, I’ve never had a favorite of mine make it into the finale…Let alone my top two for the entire season.
This is the first finale in the show’s history where I’ll be happy with either outcome.
NewYorkness
I figured Adam was going to get most of Allison’s voters but with Kris getting the most votes last night, I would think that most of Gokey’s votes would go to Kris. Will be interesting. Adam doesn’t need to win it all…he’ll be the most successful of the bunch this year.
Tylertime
Since when did Lambert come out? Everyone is calling him gay, but as far as I know he is as gay as the Gaiken was back in 2004 on AI. Until he says he comes out and says he is gay he isn’t getting my support. It’s 2009. Do it. I was out at his age in 1991.
As for Adam being an “icon” DGZ that has yet to be seen. Check back in 2029. It will take at least a couple of decades before that word can be used in reference to him.
dgz
@Tylertime: i know, that’s why i mentioned they were unrealistic expectations. it’s me wishful thinking.
as for coming out, dyou think dude should issue a press release? all his friends/family know and there are widely-published pictures of him tonguing his former bf. even more persuasive, didn’t he major in musical theater? 😉
Chris
I agree with the guys here who want him to win because he’s gay, so do i. I also think its high time for us to have a major celebrity who is gay.
GENE
@Tylertime
Check Adam’s Tribe profile. It was created before he auditioned Idol and he states preference is male.http://tribe.net/template/pub%2Coc%2CDetail.vm?plugin=bio&inst=4068166
Also, Perez Hilton was on Ryan Seacrest’s radio show, and he talked a lot about Adam’s sexuality and said that Adam told him that he would talk about his sexuality when he is allowed to talk to the press. http://ryan.kiisfm.com/main.html
I think Adam should win. Kris is boring and more like a better than average lounge singer. Seriously, he does NOT have anything really interesting. He’s just like everyone and maybe that’s his appeal, but I believe an IDOL needs to have the star quality. Adam is superstar material. If Adam doesn’t win it will make a mockery of the show when he becomes more successful than Kris.
Captain Freedom
@dgz:
Adam Lambert is NOT gay just like OJ Simpson is NOT guilty
louann
Let me just say that I have enjoyed all the comments.
When people ASK me if I’m gay, or I talk about my PARTNER in conversation, I own it but I don’t wear a sign or broadcast it. Adam dared that video dude and the video dude backed down. I feel certain he wouldn’t have denied it.
I think Kris won out because he is authentic and people are tired of Adam’s glam rock singing. He does it well and AI is pimping him, but he is going to HAVE to come up with a MAD WORLD type of performance (Sans aerosmith type shreiking) to win over America.
@dgz: I totally agree with the shoving-it-down-their-throats!
dgz
@louann: i think i know the street interview you’re talking about, and you’re right: “the first what?” (flash of devilish grin.)
and i fear you’re right again about the finale. barring a groundbreaking performance or some major misstep by kris, i’m pretty sure adam will lose out. justin guarini, host of idol chat, agrees.
alan brickman
Wake up!!! If he wins he will still stay in the closet to save his career…all gays do it!!….
Addyboo
First of all – to the person who complained about all the spoilers due to them being two weeks behind because of living in foreign countries, should probably stay away from sites that talk about American Idol every week. Every week, we talk about Adam Lambert. Every week, we talk about who got voted off, and now that the season is over, you decide to complain about spoilers? What rock have you been living under?
Secondly, Bill O’Reilly doesn’t hate or have any obvious bias against Adam Lambert. In fact, O’Reilly stated “If he is the most talented, he deserves to win the competition.” Why my fellow gays continue to bash O’Reilly for no reason is beyond me. There are certainly other talking heads more deserving of our ire. Like the President for not following through with his campaign promises to his gay constituents.
But enough about politics, this reply is really all about AI. I actually liked Danny Gokey and thought he would be in the finals because the audience seemed to give him the sympathy vote since he lost his wife just before he auditioned to be on the show. I have to say though, that Kris Allen – who is drop dead gorgeous, by the way – absolutely won me over as a fan with his fantastic version of that Kanye West song. He is a very talented singer, and I love the fact that he plays both guitar and piano. Plus his wifey is such a cutie. They make a cute couple… we’ll see how long it lasts after the groupies come out of the woodwork. And Adam Lambert, unless the voters at home are completely homophobic, will definitely win. His voice reminds me of Axl Rose and Sebastian Bach – two of my first masturbatory fantasies. And other than some bad skin – which they have tremendous meds for nowadays – Adam is getting hotter and hotter (and gayer) each week. Which is a good thing.
dgz
@Addyboo: you’re right. there’s no implicit judgement in censoring pics of adam’s gay liplock. or saying that gays marrying will lead to human/dolphin pairings. all sarcasm aside, yes there are worse. but that doesn’t mean i’m not allowed to criticize the only modestly bad.
kevin (not that one)
I don’t know about Kris, but it’s pretty evident that Gokey is an evangelical of the not-so-gay friendly kind. First of all, he’s very involved with his church and credits his pastors with his success (1).
Second, a look at the statement of faith for his church (2) shows that they list most, if not all, of the common beliefs of conservative evangelicals.
Here’s that statement with my comments:
We believe the bible to be the inspired Word of God. (II Timothy 3:16)
This is a semantic compromise between saying that it is the literal word of God as opposed to the bible written by human beings…which it obviously was. Evangelicals who use the semantics of “inspired” use the same semantic trick between “creationism” and “intelligent design”.
We believe Jesus is the Son of God. (II Timothy 3:16; Matthew 1:23)
Wow. Another 1 Timothy quote. Why Timothy? It’s not part of the synoptic gospels, nor is it an authentic work of Paul. However, it should be noted that it is in Timothy that much of the bigoted stuff written about women being inferior appears…which, considering that one of the pastors at this church is female is a glaring contradiction on their part.
We believe in the salvation of sinners by grace, through repentance and faith. (Ephesians2:8-9)
Nothing too concerning here. This is standard dogma in the Protestant tradition.
We believe in water baptism by immersion. (Matthew 28:19)
Whatever. This is another clue to their literalistic view of the bible. To immerse or not to immerse? Does it really matter? Jesus prayed in private (Mark 1:35)…do you see them taking THAT literally also?
BTW: Matthew 28:19 says “go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.” Interestingly enough, this “great commissioning” is absent from the other two synoptic gospels, which have completely different accounts on Jesus’s last words and deeds. From this you take your statement of faith?
We believe that it is the will of God that each believer be filled with the Holy Spirit and speak with new tongues. (Acts1:8; 19:1-6)
Uh-oh. You do know what that means, don’t you? This is the quote the Pentacostals use as a foundation for their religious practice of speaking in tongues.
We believe that every believer is given power to live a victorious, overcoming life. (I John 5:4)
That’s nice. However, 1 John 4:7-21 seems to be the missing element in most Evangelical churches.
We believe in the operation of the Gifts of the Spirit individually and corporately. (I Corinthians 12-14)
Again, because this is an Evangelical church (albeit conservative and of the Pentacostal sect), I can help but doubt that their eyes gloss over 1 Cor 13 in favor of 12 and 14, which concerns itself with practices we usually identify with holyroller churches. On a humorous note: this church, which obviously is one that practices glossolalia, 1 Cor 14:22-23 goes “Tongues, then, are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is not for unbelievers but for believers. If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your mind?”
Indeed.
We believe that divine healing through Christ is available for every believer. (Isaiah 53:5)
Voodoo witch doctor spiritual healing mumbo jumbo gimme a donation and I’ll wipe my sweaty handkerchief on you and you can faint and then get up and jump up and down shouting “praise Jesus”. I mean, are they also Christian Scientists, as well as Evangelical Pentacostals who ordain women? It seems like they are just picking stuff out at random.
We believe in eternal life for believers and eternal punishment for unbelievers. (John 5:24; 3:16)
Ah yes…this is the tiny little heart of conservative Christianity we all know and despise. Judgmental, based on fear with an angry, unloving, wrathful God who would hastily punish that which he (lovingly) created in his own image.
By the way, most New Testament scholars (outside of the Moody Bible Institute) will tell you that The Gospel of John contains not one single authentic saying of Jesus, but rather “John” is the voice of the post-Easter church. I would venture that how John is quoted here is not even the beliefs of the post-Easter church, but the post-Constantine church. Fear is a powerful motivator but, like torture, one that gets pretty lousy results.
So, knowing the background of Danny Gokey’s faith, you can probably see why (if he truly believes this stuff), he and Adam don’t get along. Adam seems genuinely kind and impartial to others, accepting that the world is a diverse place and that’s just great. Those who practice the religion Danny Gokey subscribes to see the world in black in white, in believers and unbelievers – the latter of which WILL burn in hell (according to the former). They always have an agenda: to convert “the nations” of unbelievers, using all sorts of hocus pocus and pseudo-incantations (speaking in tongues), while wearing their religion on their sleeve with so much hubris.
Oh, and those people? That’s who the queerbashers are.
1. http://www.jsonline.com/entertainment/tvradio/39823267.html
2. http://www.faithbuilders.cc/statement_of_faith.php
Queerky
@KEVIN
Why are you boring us this propaganda? Are you one of them? Is this your way of spreading hate to us? Who cares about Gokey and what he believes, he has gone back to his basement apartment. Should the man ever bring our a Christian album, ignore it, don’t buy it.
Alexa
@alan brickman: In order to stay in the closet you first have to be IN it. Adam may not have explicitly, in public, said he is gay, but his words and actions are not those of a closeted person. I would be shocked if he doesn’t talk about being gay within the first couple of weeks after the Idol finale, win or lose.
Queerky
@Alan Brickman
Elton John must not have got your memo. Nor Melissa Etheridge, or k.d. Lang.
lou ann
@Queerky: what are you talking about – Melissa has been openly gay since the 90s as has kd lang. Am I not understanding?
lou ann
Adam should sing “Yes, I am” with Melissa’s permission. I am sure she would go for it. Then it wouldn’t matter if he won or lost, he trump everything by outing himself during the AI finals. That would be a coup.
Humanist 101
Wha? THE REASON he’s in the closet is because it’s in his contract… like Ryan S, Tom C, and all those other contract closet boys.. controlled by the machine. It’s risky enough putting millions behind someone, when you sign on the line they become, straight, narrow and boring and instant friends with every gay escort on their agents speed dial. Pity, it’s probably why we are feared. We’re hiding in the bushes and bathrooms for most of the planet. Why? Because we are vampires? Nah, it’s because we’re ashamed and hide.
Now we have agencies to go fight our battles… HRC, GLADD…
But when someone dangles your dreams in your face, you’ll do almost anything. I live in LA I see it all day… it’s sad.
spindoc
After Gokey’s fans started saying all those homophobic things on the blogs, I’m just happy that Gokey is gone. It would be nice to finally have an open Idol win.
Michael W.
Let’s help him win!
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