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An Unfortunate Episode of Transexual Train Violence

Know what happens when you mess with a transexual on the train? You get maced. This is a terrible story.

This isn’t exactly a post on mitigating punishments for queerphobia, or how to educate ill-informed children, but to see what happens when someone uploads an unfortunate incident to YouTube.

The gal in pink, identified as transexual by whoever posted the video, was not taking shit from these two little boys the day before her birthday. We can hear the comments already: “Dress like that and you’re bound to be harassed.” Or: “Mouth off to a stranger and you’re bound to be attacked.”

But macing kids? For saying stupid shit? We wouldn’t even do that to Balloon Boy.

Meanwhile, on YouTube the kids are rallying behind the unfortunately dressed mace-r.

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42 Comments

  • Jack

    You saw it first on Queerty! Oh wait, no – you saw it first on Perez Hilton. Several days ago.

  • YCKTR

    I understand her frustration….but really what did she teach that kid? That transexuals are evil people that mace you over your opinions? Yeah, that’s constructive.

    Let’s dig a little deeper – the worst part of this video isn’t the macing, or the little boy’s words…it’s the mother – not only does she allow/support his behavior…during the actual “spray” she turns away from him to sheild her own eyes instead of protecting her child. Speaks volumes about what sort of parenting that poor kid is getting…or not getting.

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  • dellisonly

    If this was on funny or die it’s certainly not funny. Gotta agree with the responders. Little bitch got what he shoulda known was comin’.

  • Cam

    No. 2 · YCKTR said….
    I understand her frustration….but really what did she teach that kid? That transexuals are evil people that mace you over your opinions? Yeah, that’s constructive.
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    Or it taught the kid that if you are not a nice person who believes in live an let live maybe you should keep your mouth shut because sometimes the people you hate carry Mace.

    Also, this video is being billed as a Transexual against kids, what was missed is that the kids mother was there keeping the fight going. It’s no wonder her kids behave like that with a mother that doesn’t know when to pull it back.

  • Qjersey

    She taught the kid when most of us city dwellers already know. Don’t shoot your mouth off to strangers…cause they may whip out a gun, knife or mace and get you!!!

  • YCKTR

    Or it taught the kid that if you are not a nice person who believes in live an let live maybe you should keep your mouth shut because sometimes the people you hate carry Mace.

    —-snip—

    You don’t know kids with conduct disorders very well, huh? Do you REALLY think he connected the outcome (being maced) with the correct antecedant (his bad behavior)? Not likely. He clearly demonstrates that he is not at a place developmentally to make that connection. And even if for some strange reason he does, Mama will almost certainly reinforce that it was the transwoman’s “fault.”

    Trust me, that kid learned one thing…Trannies are bad and they will hurt you so you have to hurt them first.

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  • Kieren

    YCKTR – now there are ‘conduct disorders’? Puh-lease. Two kids found out that you act like little shits there’s a price to pay. Mamma should have kept a better leash on the boys, but typical of today’s society there’s not much in the way of child rearing going on.

    Will they think before they speak again? I wager they will.

  • Dana Lane

    She should be thrown in jail for assault. That was totally uncalled for. She could have just moved to another section of the train.

  • sarah

    You got it, YCKTR. Tranny or no tranny (those saggy tits are evidence toward the latter), she’s an adult. And adults don’t mace kids. Anyone with any sense of maturity would have dealt with the mother directly.

    Anyway, that would have been a much more satisfying mace attack.

  • scott ny'er

    woof. that black dude who was defending the crazy trans person, that dude is hot. at least from that camera angle

    and yeah, crazy trans person shouldn’t have maced the kids and just ignored them. that’s called assault and you can be arrested.

  • scott ny'er

    oh, these youtube peeps bring up a good point. IF the kids/mom were talking trash to the tranny, in a way they got what they deserved. You never know what people might do. There are crazy people out there.

    Mind your business and respect others unless you get disrespected.

    It doesn’t make what the tranny did ok, but it’s a survival thing when living in areas with crazy people.

  • Lady Ga-Gasp

    Classy all around!

  • YCKTR

    @Kieren

    Actually yes there are conduct disorders “now”…for about 13 years actually. Oh I know what you’re thinking, I thought it myself…bullshit diagnon-sense. Well, that sort of true…but it does provide some clinical benefits in terms of treatment. But the best “cure” for a conduct disorder? A swift kick in the ass to the parent. Obviously that’s a non-clinical approach…but seems to provide evidence for favorable outcomes.

    And yes, Kieren, that boy will think before he speaks next time…he’ll think about cutting her face or punching her in the mouth…just before he actually does it. She tramatized that child. regardless of whether we think he “deserved” it – and the data is pretty concrete in terms of describing longterm behavioral outcomes of tramatized children. Hint: they don’t typically grow up to be scout leaders.

    I don’t care what a child SAYS to you, there is NEVER an excuse to do what she did. She was wrong; she responded physically to a verbal situation. Wrong. Everytime. Period.

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  • Kropotkin

    She probably shouldn’t have done that, but I don’t have much sympathy for the woman or the kid who got maced. If you’re going start messing with random people public transportation, bad things are going to happen.

    They thought someone would just lie down and be a compliant victim of their taunts and they made a wrong bet, it sucks to be them.

  • Tommy

    I’m sorry, but I’m glad that my family was old-school in the manner that if you disrespected elders or strangers, you got a mouthful of slap.

    And please, YCKTR, “conduct disorders?” Is that what “rotten children” are being diagnosed with nowadays? If anyone should have been maced, it should have been that kid’s mom.

    You have to train them to be proper.. it just doesn’t happen, like YCKTR might believe. And because children often lack the ability to rationalize and engage in abstract thinking, talking them out of their bad behavior sometimes doesn’t work. And when you demand behavior right away (as this mom in the train should have), then you have to be a little more corporal in your training methods.

  • Kropotkin

    YCKTR: How did you get the ability to diagnose a conduct disorder by watching a you tube video?

  • mojojojo

    Just another example of the rampant homophobia in the black community!

  • DeAnimator

    You don’t mace a little kid. You mace the mom. When she’s on her own.

  • coodah

    mace the fuckers.

  • turkey quota

    @mojojojo

    Wrong bigot.

  • YCKTR

    @Kropotkin

    “YCKTR: How did you get the ability to diagnose a conduct disorder by watching a you tube video?”

    By working with them everyday for about 7 years in a residential facility. No, not HR or the chart room….directly…I’ve got the scars to prove it.

    Anymore questions?

    @Tommy

    “And please, YCKTR, “conduct disorders?” Is that what “rotten children” are being diagnosed with nowadays?”

    Oh don’t get me wrong, I think it’s largely bullshit myself…along with Oppositional Defiant Disorder. However, by adding it to the diagnostic criteria, we are provided with much more by way of clinical interventions. And yes, most of the time it’s because mom and dad (if he’s around) are morons. But it’s pretty useless to just house kids in a safer environment without at least exploring treatment options. It’s a catch-22…if they stay in the home, they’ll end up criminals…but the minute you get them stable, they return to the home and typically just pick-up where they left off. But every once in a while you actually change the tradjectory of one of those kids…and that makes all of the diagnon-sense and bullshit WELL worth it.

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  • YCKTR

    Bottomline…all of the adults in this film demostrate reprehensible behavior. The kids are just modeling what they’ve been taught, and taking cues from the adults in their life. If you TRULY think it’s ok for an adult to mace an 8 year old, I sincerely hope you access the mental services you clearly need. It’s never OK to hurt a child….ever.

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  • Fitz

    I LOVED hearing that kid cry! THAT WAS WONDERFUL. If only she had used bleach instead of wimpy ass mace. LOVED it. I might make his crying my new ring tone.

  • pantherq

    The increase in the amount of hate directed towards lgbt individuals since the prop 8 campaign has been tremendous. It is getting to the point where some of us have to be proactive about protecting ourselves.

    I’m glad she did it.

  • Kropotkin

    “By working with them everyday for about 7 years in a residential facility. No, not HR or the chart room….directly…I’ve got the scars to prove it.

    Anymore questions?”

    You might want to tell me about how you can diagnose a conduct disorder by watching a youtube video. Maybe the kid has a CD, maybe he doesn’t. I respect your experience but it take a hell of a lot more interaction and observation of a child than a four minute video to diagnose them with something. Not trying be argumentative with you, because for the most I agree with you. But I also know what it is like to be harassed in a public place like she was*, so I do have empathy for the trans woman though she did something that was wrong.

    *The woman and child was no direct threat, but I could see a scenario where a someone who was a threat could’ve gotten in to the act, egged on by those two and escalated it further. A pack mentality situation. Sometimes it’s do or die on the streets without any time to think it through.

  • Oh Boy

    That entire video was horrifying and so was everyone involved.

  • AT

    It’s easy to say “reprehensible” until you’ve been in that situation. Waiting for the responsible adult – i.e. the parent – to step in is a noble idea, but it’s as much reflexive self-defense as malice. I’d say mace was a little harsh. I maybe would’ve spit on the little fucker which is easily cleaned up and much more dramatic.

    What people seem to fail to realize (rather universally) is that a large number of trans people live must contend with ignorance and the potential for violence. If she’d allowed that 8 year old to continue, who’s to say the next backwards asshole wouldn’t have been 18 and feeling big enough to attack someone they perceive as different.

    Consider yourself in that position. And consider this – LGBT individuals live in a society where they are continually told they are abominations and unacceptable and not even worthy of being citizens while the “other half” gets reinforcement that it’s ok to treat members of this group callously.

    Finally, it’s just craptastic parenting that allowed the kid to talk to a stranger in the first place. When I was 8, I’d learned the lesson never talk to strangers before I was taken to public places. o.O

  • ycktr

    @At

    I HAVE been in that situation…more than a few times. I walked away and no one got hurt. In one case I could have wiped the floor with the other person – but aside from a night in jail, the outcome would have been what? Understanding? Empathy? A new frame of mind for the antagonist? Not likely.

    I think it’s an age thing. After you lived a few more years you’ll start to understand that you can’t kick the whole world’s ass – the minute you decide to use force, you lose. Besides, why give someone else that much power over you? Makes no sense to me…at least not anymore.

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  • ycktr

    @Kropotkin

    “Maybe the kid has a CD, maybe he doesn’t. I respect your experience but it take a hell of a lot more interaction and observation of a child than a four minute video to diagnose them with something.”

    Well of course you’re right…a true diagnosis would require much more than a one-way observation. However, after you’ve worked with enough of those kids, you start to learn the flavor. I don’t even pay to attention to the words coming out of his mouth…in fact, I watched it with the sound off the second time. I’m looking at body language, degree of stimulation, where he looks when he wants support for his behavior (mom) and the mother’s disinterest in modeling pro-social behavior. The MOST telling is something I said earlier…Mom’s lack of protective instinct – she covers her own face instead of reacting her child being assaulted.

    But like I said, you’re completely right…I’d need more information to make an official diagnosis…but trust me, my money is safe on this one.

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  • ycktr

    Oh, and the older kid is gay. I’d put money on that as well.

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  • Phoenix (Color Me Unimpressed)

    I think those kids main problem is their lousy parents. Isn’t that basically what ‘conduct disorders’ are?

    I don’t think the Lady In Pink (tranny or not) should have maced them, but it shows a real lack of common sense for a parent to try and start a fight between their kids and a stranger….or anyone for that matter.

  • Bob

    Sorry, but those kids deserved it. So did their bitch momma.

  • Sebs

    gee, i cant understand anything they say…its soo ghetto

  • LindaBlair

    That tranny is my new hero. The GLBT community could learn a thing or two from her about not being a victim. Children should be taught from a young age that if they harass GLBT people, Santa Claus will send one of his tranny fairies their house to kill their parents.
    P.S. If those kids are old enough to hurl insults at a stranger, they’re old enough to die in the street like one.

  • Tina

    I resent the ‘tranny’ label…being that its used almost exclusively in the porn industry and sexualized hyperfeminine stereotypes. And by myself, in reference to myself, on my bad days…

  • Cam

    No. 6 · YCKTR said…

    You don’t know kids with conduct disorders very well, huh? Do you REALLY think he connected the outcome (being maced) with the correct antecedant (his bad behavior)? Not likely.
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    Please give me a break, so you are a psychologist now who can make a determination of a childs behavioral disorder from the brief flash that the kid was shown on that video? How nice it must be in your world where nobody is responsible for anything. Trying to say that those kids can’t understand cause and effect is ridiculous. I didn’t see the kid peeing his pants, or running around the subway pulling people’s hair, or banging his head against a wall. He now knows, pick on a stranger and you may get maced. I have no sympathy for that kid nor for that mother. the NEXT time they see somebody different on the subway they will likely leave them alone, whether they do it out of understanding or out of concern they might get maced is irrelevent.

  • Fitz

    @Tina- don’t look for things to resent. Lots of people use Tranny, and it’s not typically derogatory or about porn. My friend who is FtM uses either ‘Tranny’ or ‘Queer’ all the time.

  • hardmannyc

    That dress is horrifying — on a man, woman, transgendered.

  • utahime

    Of greater concern is that older kid spreading H1N1 throughout the train car…

  • dontblamemeivotedforhillary

    Bloomberg will raise fares and keep Bridge and Tunnel folk off the island, anyway! http://www.VoteMontyBurns.com

  • Kropotkin

    “@Tina- don’t look for things to resent. Lots of people use Tranny, and it’s not typically derogatory or about porn. My friend who is FtM uses either ‘Tranny’ or ‘Queer’ all the time.”

    Thanks for telling Tina how to feel, it is derogatory and used a lot in porn. People may not use “faggot” or “lesbo” as derogatory 100% of the time, but that doesn’t stop those words from being derogatory. I can’t force people to stop using that word, but if they really cared about how 99% of trans folks think about that word and had some empathy, people would stop using it.

  • Greg Theron

    Queerty can suck my dick. Talk about bad journalism. That tranny put them kids up in they place and they deserved it. I’ll knock any bitches teeth out. Kids should have been taught manners.

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