Lillian Ladele definitely has reason to be smug.
The British registrar, who filed a lawsuit for the religious right to refuse gay unions, won her case. Citing religious discrimination, a tribunal has ordered the Islington Council to fork over yet-to-be determined payout.
The settlement, which will be hashed out in September, definitely sets a precedent:
The ruling that employees should not be required to act against their consciences has implications for the 18,000 same-sex ceremonies conducted nationwide each year and could encourage other registrars with strong religious beliefs to take a similar stance.
Gay activist group Stonewall doesn’t approve of the ruling, of course, remarking, “Doubtless there were those 40 years ago who claimed a moral objection to mixed marriages between people of different ethnic origin.”
How about we take this to the next level?
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RPCV
A black discriminate?? Of course not; they can do whatever they like worldwide because of their past suffering and perceived second-class status…
Woof
And what if a member of the KKK was a registrar, could they refuse an inter-racial marriage? Me thinks not
charles
Do either of you have an original response to this or are you just trolling the net for a chance to rip on a black person from the comfort of your cubicle?
Buffy
@ RCVP –
Of course only black people are homophobic!
I’m sure all those clerks in California that objected performing gay marriages were black. And those neo-Nazies and religious conservatives in Europe? All black, every single one of them! Why, white people are never homophobic, or prejudiced in anyway. / sarcasm off
Race has nothing to do with it. Bigots can be of any race, ethnicity. And as you’ve shown, sexual orientation.
RPCV
Buffy: My dear, I’m not being racist. I’m stating fact. There’s a difference. Might want to try: http://www.merriam-webster.com/
Deion
RPCV,
While I agree with you that you aren’t being racist, you are making a sweeping generalization of black people across the world.
This woman’s discrimination is in direct violation of her job duties. If what her job entails directly conflicts with her beliefs then she should quit and find a line of work more suitable to her tastes. I’d like to know what lawyer worth their degree couldn’t argue that Ms. Ladele was simply refusing to do her job and when her employer demanded perfomance, she claimed religious discrimination. And my mother wonders why I don’t go to church.
Tom
This ruling establishes a terrible precedent because it basically saids that the law recognizes a religious basis to be anti-gay. Thus, the employer must make a reasonable accomodation for the religious belief. Yuck!
Lets hope its overturned on further appeal.
SuperCat
Good for her! I once worked at McDonalds and refused to prepare or take orders that had meat in them based on vegetarian beliefs! After all we set our own job descriptions, not our employers!
Darth Paul
Pretty f&cked up that you racists can only see her color and not the REAL problem- her fanatical hate dressed up in religion.
Kyler
When someone’s beliefs directly take away the rights of another human being it seems that their beliefs have gone too far.
I’ve got an idea, if you don’t like marrying certain types of people then quit working at the freaken registrar to begin with. Career change needed immediately for this woman. Although I doubt her next career will work either. Maybe she can work and a hotel and refuse rooms to gay lovers or work as a pharmacist and refuse to give individuals (primarily the gay ones) HIV/AIDS medication.
!!WORST RULING EVER!!
nikko
I can’t believe this outcome. I thought she’d be fired for not doing her job, which is what it’s about-not religious discrimination. Pathetic. Kick them lawyers for failing to settle this very plain case of stupidity. I await victory from a repeal(?).
Queer "T"
It’s good to know that Star Jones got work after her talk show was cancelled.
Shabaka
If anything she should be applauded for sticking to a belief imposed(through rape and torture) by her enslavers!!Sarcasm off here too!
In all seriousness though, I agree with WOOF. This is no different than refusing to marry a inter-racial couple,no? Or not paying a black employee and citing Ham’s curse( H and B would have a field day with this one)!
CHURCHILL-Y
Oh yes because it so happens that everytime that some ass backward headline of a homophobic incident in the UK comes to light it’s not some black idiot/s the one generating it!
No we just love to make this shit-up about how things are deteriorating over there partly due to black Caribbean/African immigrants and Muslims.
Yeah,people like Beelzebab know nothing about how their country has been taking a step back with each growth in the numbers of those specific ethnicities. It’s all made up THEY ARE THE VICTIMS and the UK needs to start resembling more culturally the HELL HOLE country from which Mrs.Ladele came from.
CHURCHILL-Y
Aww.. isn’t that nice! So glad that some African immigrants (#13) to Canada can find the humor in this.
Perhaps they should return to their beloved Africa and try to retrace the reason why they left it in the first place. Could’ve been a domestic surplus in lame idiots like Ladele?
Haha return PERMANENTLY and have yourself a good laugh straight to the grave in Ladele’s/Mugabe’s and all the other innumerable homophobes that inhabit that continent.
If only they stayed there. We wouldn’t have to deal with this shit in places like the UK.
Len
Good for you, Supercat, but at my company employees do not set their own job description.
So a nurse should be able to say “I’ll work in a hosptial, but I won’t touch sick people”?
Hey, I work for a publisher. Can I say “Happy to do what’s needed, but I won’t touch a book”?
I only hope there are enough gay registrars to make the refusal to marry straight people get some attention.
ron
what a cunt..if she can’t provide all members of the public with the same level of service she shouldn’t be in the public service..and the judge is a fucking bigot too.
REBELComx
I can’t even begin to express how disgusted I am with this verdict. She has a job with strict rules and regulations. If her CHOSEN religion prevents her from doing her job, than her employer has every right to can her sorry ass. I totally agree with everyone asking the question about wether this will include some nazi shithead denying an interracial couple marraige licenses.
This ruling better be appealed, or it is going to open up some VERY dangerous doors in the UK.
I thought they were MORE civilized than us?
I want to see the look on Ian McKellen’s face when he reads this one…
Shabaka
Didn’t know you could read,C! Kudos! So watchu think of my blog, huh?
michael
What I am about to say is in no way to be racist or to stand beside RYFD. He (or she) is a fucktard in my book. I say this because it is interesting.
I was at a party last weekend and in attendance was a professor of gender studies and sexuality at a major Canadian university. He is gay and from an ethnic minority group as well. We were having a discuss. about homosexuality and the wounds and issues gays from ethnic minority groups contend with. He made a very casual and interesting statement. He said that for the majority of blacks, coming out was like a death. He said that North American blacks are extremely homophobic and that when most blacks come out they are ostricized by their families and community. He said that even though someone like Nelson Mandela, who is a respected role model for most blacks cries out about bigotry against gays that it lands on mostly deaf ears in the black community. I know this probably not something many want to hear but it come from someone who not only studies these things for a living but also comes from another ethnic community which is probably equal or worst in its homophobia.
Marky Marj
Interestingly the same Equality Regulation that Ladele used to justify her claim of discrimination are not restricted only to covering religions. The bill refers to religion ‘or philosophical belief’ – widely viewed as an error in the bill’s drafting. This means that the Regulations may be interpreted as covering deeply held political beliefs and discriminatory views around these. The Tribunal has made a very serious error of judgement on this case IMHO.
CitizenGeek
Wow, Churchill-y’s racism in this thread is absurd :/
John
Michael:
Your point is very true and not at all offensive! Why do people think just speaking honestly is un-pc? This is what happens in society, so people can come up with the most irrational and illogical arguments and cry that their opinions are being censored because they are seen as un-pc because they ‘speak the truth’.
Black people are just really religious-inherently. It’s somewhat fascinating as a race and this obviously leads to warped prejudice ideas, as religion is so dogmatic and totalistic.
It’s really all very simple..BUT shit! 🙂
Kyler
Racism is a problem on this blog. I’m a white gay male, but last I checked white people have a whole list of ridiculous histories of violence. Just mentioning a few Hitler should be enough, but there was also slavery, segregation, klu klux klan, Europe did start the holy wars.
I mean violence and intolerance can be found rampant in the history of all people groups, not just strictly among blacks, whites, arabs, indians, Asians, etc. Considering gay people have enough intolerance to fight can we please stop being ridiculous and realize that ignorance drives intolerance, not the color of ones skin.
Shabaka
Michael,
As a black North American (Canadian) man, I take absolutely no offense with your comment. Discussing what affects us as a community is in no way an insult. I do not feel insulted when you bring up a very real and honest issue such as homophobia in underprivileged communities. Why? Because it’s the truth. Unlike some posters on here who prefer to overlook this fact and have the need to feel elevated and validated by blaming it on some outdated notions of “race”(just today on cnn they showed a serbian man who beat someone into a coma over a dance with some girl and that man has fled to Europe with the help of his parents despite the fact that authorities had confiscated his passport),most sane people are willing to discuss objectively and try and find a solution to this issue of homophobia(for all of humanity). People of African/Arabic descent being reluctant to discuss the issue is just as true as North Americans of East European descent(who am I kidding, western Europe is no better) being hostile to it. Same reaction, expressed differently depending on one’s culture.
dizzy spins
Getting back to the original post (remember that?), i think the point was that you would think a black clerk should be more aware of the irony of refusing to marry people you don’t think should marry. Not that blacks are more homophobic, or whatever tangent we got on.
hell's kitchen guy
I don’t see what her skin tone has to do with the story. Am I missing something?
BobP
Why is she working with the public? If she feels so strongly that she can’t perform her job (it IS her job, after all), she should get a job working for some religious organization that she APPROVES of. I think the judge in this case wimped out, but hopefully there will be an appeal, and they’ll wipe that very unchristian smug look off of her face.
No 4
Strap a collar around her neck and send her back to the back of the bus. If her religious beliefs make her hate, then I will cite my cultural background of slave trade to have her bought and sold to anyone who needs help installing some sod.
Some might say we should point out that it’s her religoius beliefs that are wrong and it’s not her skin color’s fault…BUT if I was raised to hate N!ggers…then her skin is at fault and it’s MY right to hate them…isn’t it?
MJ
Well, at least the U.K. is being fair with bending over backwards to accomodate everybody. If they’re going to force bomb-sniffing dogs to start wearing booties so as not to offend Muslims when they search certain homes, then at least they’re doing the same for a Christian.
MJ
RPCV and Churchill-y : Anybody with any honesty and sense knows homophobia is a bigger problem in African-American communities in the U.S. (and Europe) and the Carribean and Africa as well as in most Muslim countries (in spite of what politically-correct dishonest gays will try to force people to believe). But let’s also show some understanding for black gays and lesbians. It can’t be easy to deal with black communities who put you down and then dealing with the white racism (of some) against you. It must be like…pressure from all around.
Buffy
@ HKG and Dizzy Spins
That is the exact point I was trying to make. What makes me mad is this ridiculous ruling, but what infuriates me are the racist comments on this story.
@RCVP
Yes, she’s black what’s your point? This case has nothing to do with her race, it has to do with her religious objection to performing her job. I am a black female and I would have no objections to performing a gay marriage (if that were my job), because I do not hold the same religious views that this woman holds. If your going to comment on a post you should stick to the facts of the story.
Might want to try http://www.towleroad.com/2008/07/uk-christian-re.html to view what a real discussion on this story would look like.
CHURCHILL-Y
@ # 31:
MJ, In no way am I insinuating that life is easy for black gays and lesbians who have to deal with that much amount of BS from their ethnic backgrounds but if you read any of the threads posted here by the same GLBT people of color you’ll come to the conclusion that most often than not they do not admit it. More often than not instead they end up making the most absurd and apologetic arguments for the vile and hatred directed at them first and then at us at large from their communities. They always seem to arrive at some far out conclusion that such hatred and violence whether portrayed through religion or music by the black population in the 21 century is somehow due to racism and colonialism and that its our fault that we in the West have to constantly put up with attacks and discrimination from people like Ladele. Now MJ, I don’t know if your one of them but if you are I want to let you know that I consider you my brother/sister and that I have nothing against you I would just like for GLBT people of color to cut the Bullshit and stop defending homophobes just because they have their same skin color and stop attacking people like me for just stating the facts and instead start to confront those stupid S.O.B.’S who want to harm all of us.
blake
“Black people are just really religious-inherently..”
–Nope, not a racist statement at all. 😉
“Aren’t all gay white men meth addicts who molest children when they aren’t dressing in women’s clothing or plotting how to take over the world with their Gay Agenda?” What a stereotype? No. Say it isn’t so.
Church-Nazi & R2D2 making racist statements? Not surprising.
Hello? Anyone home? Didn’t Queerty having postings on three homophobic white men today? Dobson, King, and Naugle? All three of these men have political and social power, more so that this woman.
But, still, blinders remain. Black people are the source and end-all of homophobia, etc. So what if the most powerful homophobes in America are white males. They’re white and that makes it all right?
—–
MJ
Churchill-y : I’m white./////I don’t disagree with anything you said in that last statement./////I really do believe you’d have only best wishes for gay and lesbian black folk that have to suffer homophobic crap from other blacks.//////I also don’t think anything you said negates the fact that you know there are white homophobes too.////As a side note, and just from my personal experience: I’ve found black people directly to be more honest about the whole homophobia/crime/etc thing than white academic types. I know some blacks are a pain, too, about the whole “colonialism…racism…misogyny..homophobia..classism…THAT’s why our crime rate is like it is!..” thing, but it’s moreso white elitists that keep trying to push that agenda. Not that there might not be some smidgeons of truth in all that stuff too, but….they ignore the cold hard facts that greatly temper and negate those conclusions. It’s okay if these do-gooders want to believe that themselves, but don’t force the rest of us to pretend along.
RPCV
Buffy, you dumb bitch. Her race has EVERYTHING to do with it. Society has been brainwashed into acting politically correct; the result – blacks have their way with ANYTHING simply because of the perceived past transgressions against those poor, deprived, second-class citizens, and society’s fear of further offending them. If she were white, she would have been told to do her job. But, again, because she’s BLACK and so as not to offend her, she gets away with discrimination. Go figure. All because of affirmative action (AA). And, because of AA, quite frankly, I have no use for any blacks. Period. Especially, those fat ass black bitches who ride the DC Metro each day, talking on their phones deliberately rudely, taking up two seats due to the size of their asses, and occupying government jobs ONLY because hiring managers have to meet certain quotas. And, the blacks can’t be fired either, because to do so would result in the manager losing his/her “counter.” I wish you all would just move back to Africa.
afrolito
The blind stupid racism on this board is really getting on my fucking nerves. As soon as I saw the pic of this chick in the header, I knew exactly what would be spewed here
Homophobia is no more of a problem in the black community, than in any other.
Sorry rpcv, but I was born in AMERICA, and have no plans to move anywhere I didn’t move from in the first place. Why don’t you go to hell, and spend some time with your insane mentor Hitler.
Brandon
yea the only real thing that race has to do with this situation is the irony of a black woman now refusing to perform gay unions, when interacial marraiges used to be the topic of disgust.
MJ
Homophoboia IS a much bigger problem in the black communities than in Caucasian and Asian communities./////But in this U.K. case I don’t see much significance that she’s black. She’s just being a stuffy Christian.
michael
The reason I posted earlier about my conversation with my professor friend was not to give some of the racists idiots on this thread more evidence to justify their hatred but to point what we are dealing with. We deal with a lot of different groups that hate us. They come in all shapes and sizes. I was raised in Nashville, Tn. but fortunately was emancipated to Vancouver B.C. Nashville is a city that is considered by many the “buckle of the bible belt”. I heard hatred for gays my entire life. I also heard the “n” word thrown around as often as I heard any other word. I can tell great stories about black folk all day long, stories that would warm your heart, most are good, kind, loving people, at least where I came from. But it is true that because of slavery and the fact most were “endoctrinated” by what they call in the south “that old time religion”, they carry much of that value system with them. Just as white children in the south are systematically
taught through church that homosexuality is a sin, so are black children and both have been for generations. If you are gay and white, from a southern family odds are no better for you than if you are black and gay. Its not the color or race that causes the homophobia, its the religious endoctrination that is received. So yes, there is a lot of homophobia in the black community, but also in many other communities and cultures. Lets face it people, religion is what has polluted the mind of the masses. This is not a case of what came first, the chicken or the egg. We know what came first. I apologize if I have offended any person of color, my goal was to promote understanding not fueling the fires of bigotry and blame.
Ian J UK
I don’t think any of you have even loked at the ruling from the Employment Panel,just jumped on the back of a load of media hype.
She won not because she refused to carry out Civil Partnerships, but because her employer illegaly discriminated againts her because she refused to carry out civil partnerships.
Fine line I know, but then that’s the way the law works.
Mr C
UMMM MJ
You said: Homophobia IS a much bigger problem in the black communities than in Caucasian and Asian communities./////
YOU JUST DON’T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. JUST AS MUCH AS BLACKS, HISPANICS AND ASIANS ARE HOMOPHOBIC…SO ARE WHITES.
WHO DO YOU ALWAYS SEE ON US TELEVISION TALKING AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY???…ENOUGH SAID
UM OKAY SO YOU CAN USE DONNIE MCCLURKIN AND JAMES MEEKS 2 PEOPLE AND I CAN NAME 25 WHITE PASTORS WHO ARE HOMOPHOBIC…….
YOU, CHURCHILL-Y AND RPCV ARE A PART OF THE PROBLEM why this community will not move forward as one! DIVIDE AND CONQUER.
I guess Matthew Shepard was killed by a group of Blacks??????????
OKAY GIRL.
And Michael just because someone studied one part of the Black Community doesn’t mean the entire community is like that. The South is different from The North and I find it sad that you would even admit such a thing. Just to refute some racist white gays claims that this is true. So if that is the case. Let’s go to the South and knock on some White family doors and ask them. How do they feel about homosexuality? You’d really gag if not be chased from the house.
What I am basically saying is PLEASE STOP categorizing Blacks in one basket especially if you’re not a part of, or fellowship with them.
We all know Churchychicken has issues because she had a 10’c inch black dick and he left her for a cleaner hole so she is VERY ANGRY AND BITTER. YEAH GIRL
Talk about Mugabe…what about
G W Bush
Adolph Hitler
Vladimir Putin,etc. I guess their Black homohaters also right idiot??? Hateful bitch!
UM RPCV AS FOR YOU………………….ENOUGH SAID You know the deal!
ddc
Yo Mr. C.
I think most blacks were taken in chains to the south where they became Americanized, religiously, culturally etc. And I am sorry but I live in Chicago and most blacks are as Michael described, either Southern Baptist or Church of Christ or one of those other religions. Please, most black leaders are fucking preachers. Do you remember in Seattle when Microsoft came out against equal rights for gays? It was cause of pressure from a BLACK Baptist church and its minister, I think Seattles about as far from the south as it gets. Your upset because you think all blacks are being categorized as homophobic, well Mr. C, they are, from sea to shining sea. So you can get all upset and want to paint some rosy ass picture but the evidence is against you. I think when he spoke of his friend who studies gender issues and such that he did not say that he just studied one small segments of blacks. Oh, and lets not forget the black actor that called one of his fellow actors a “faggot” and then the black community gives him a fucking award. You need to get your head out of your ass. And since nobody should have any opinion about blacks unless they are black or part of that community then I suggest you shut your face about any community that you are not a part of. Also I was once married to a woman from New England, she said that there were more Klan Rallies in CT than the south ever dreamt of, so unless you have lived, or are part of a Southern community you need to shut the fuck up because you know nothing, so practice what you preach.
MJ
Hey Mr. C. : Look at Europe and then look at Africa. “Nuff said. And some of you other guys better be sure to be in Brooklyn on August 31 during the reggae Straight Pride march. Maybe if you yell to them that they only sing about killing homosexuals because the white colonialists TOLD them to feel that way, they’ll drop their homophobia.
ddc
Mr. C. you are just as nasty and vile as the people you are so enraged toward. Your remark that Mrs. Church Chicken or whatever
had a 10″ black cock that left her for a cleaner hole shows that you are about as racist as those your screaming about. But then they say you only hate in another what you hate in yourself. Are you one of those people who believe all black men have huge cocks?
Your comment makes them sound like that is all they are good for,
how stereotypical. Maybe you and RCPV should hook up, cause you sound like the same bullshit just a different color, or maybe the same.
SuperCat
Len, I hope you realised my comment was sarcasm because you seemed to respond to it as if it was sincere… hehehe maybe I need to work on my sarcasm.
Brandon
while yes there are homophobes of every race, it seems to me that there is a higher percentage of homophobic black people than there are of homophobic white people.
a quick story, i was driving my sister to the airport and we were listening to the radio (a predominatly black rap station based in detroit) where they were starting a discussion about how a black guy emailed them that he is black, gay, and lonely, and wants to know why it is so hard to have a committed relationship with another gay black person. so they opened the lines for callers to comment, and not a SINGLE caller took the time to answer the guys question, they ALL were railing against homosexuals saying we are going to hell etc etc. keep in mind that this is a popular rap station in detroit, so most of these people were young and have most likely been in the north their whole lives.
so ill just say again, yes i agree there are many white homophobes, but it just seems to me that the black culture is overall more homophobic
Mr C
DDC,
The statement was for Churchychicken only and was never directed at any other person white, black, or indifferent.
So before rabidness starts to run from your mouth read a few of Churchill-Y’s posts on here. And then come back and confront me.
Until then…………………….POOF!
Mr C
Well DDC,
First of fucking all YOU PRACTICE WHAT THE FUCK YOU PREACH AND SHOW ME ALL THIS REAL WHITE LOVE FOR GAYS AND THEN I guess there is no homophobia. Just Blacks have it oh yeah and our WHITE President. And the entire WHITE EVANGELICAL MOVEMENT.
So Isaiah Washington says and Faggot and I guess NO WHITE ENTERTAINER has ever said faggot. BITCH PLEASE!
You bias MOTHERFUCKER FUCK YOU AND THE BOAT YOU
RODE IN ON. And by the I said here I can also say it LIVE IN PERSON!
Like I said all Blacks are not HOMOPHOBIC nor are they Southern Baptist, nor Church of Christ. Goes to show you what the fuck you know. They worhsip in many more denominations and some are ATHEIST!
DUMB ASS. You’re barking up the right tree now
So maybe you need to shut the fuck up because you know nothing, so practice what you preach.
PUNK
Paul
I’m an attorney in the U.S., so I’m not qualified to speak on English law. But this sounds frighteningly like the pharmacist in the U.S. who refused to prescribe the “day after” pill to a woman on religious grounds. He was fired. This miserable excuse for a public servant should have been as well.
CHURCHILL-Y
“Homophobia is no more of a problem in the black community, than in any other.”
Really Afrolito? Well I’m sure that Shawn Nusum down in Bermuda with a fractured nose, jaw and cheekbone a cut to his left eyebrow that has left him unable to raise it, and will be permanently scarred surely agrees with you.
As for you Michael I’m so glad that you can look down on us from your high and mighty chair up in B.C. I’m sure you have to deal constantly with the homophobic shit dished out by so called “impoverished” “alienated” communities of color every day.
Really! with elders like you is it any wonder that the GLBT community is always taking two steps forward and four back. When ever anyone tries to address this issues all they are met with is name calling and of somehow making incendiary comments against some people who unabashedly discriminate and perpetuate violent acts on us.
Yeah Michael so much for your so called love for the GLBT community when all you can do is call names to people who refuse to be treated less then human by other people. All our good leaders and elders have been either killed or died from Aids and all we young people have been left with as role models are a bunch of cowards who flinch at the first thought of being called a racist while we are constantly discriminated and hurt in large numbers by members of a community that should know a thing or two about it and not inflicted upon us.
troy
Mr. C- get some help on those rage issues before you die of a heart attack, regardless of your opinions you have got some real problems. I just hope you don’t have any guns or work at the post office. Anyway, Twice in my life I have been told the following, once by one of my college professors and once by a therapist. In a nutshell they said that anytime you see someone make great effort to convince you that they are one way or another, you can count on the fact that they are the opposite of what they are trying to appear as. I think Mr. C that you actually are a shamed based closet racist yourself and I agree that your comment on 10″ black cock exposes who you truly are. Maybe when you learn to accept and forgive yourself you will not feel the need to be so enraged and violent tempered. Your inability to maintain a centered,adult composure while attempting to add to an important conversation says a lot about you. Remove the beam from your own eye before you try to in others. Cheerio!
beelzebab
I am with you Churchill-Y
I have deliberately not commented on this story, just wanted to sit back and let all the usual suspects parade their politically correct bollocks on here.
That smug christian bitch on the pic above makes me want to take a baseball bat to her to take that smug look off her stupid face.
But fear not folks, the fight will go on against the christians. I am happy to announce that for the first time in 2,000 years we are winning the war over here in the UK and this is just a small setback.
The forces of light have received a shock with this ruling but we are already preparing our weapons for the fightback and we have a govt in power sympathetic to our cause.
M Shane
This is simply an issue of where ones beliefs
(So. Baptist, Nazi, KKK) can be used as a reason to exercise prejudice in refusing to perform one’s civic duties. As it applies to Blacks, the Southern Baptist conference has made distinctive prejudicial determinations against gays as have other extremist religious groups. In the same way one could refuse to marry Christian extremists because of one’s beliefs.
This, of course, should not stand up in a higher court since it has no legal precidence, indeed it is unconstitutional.
The best route for this bigot is to quit her job if she doesn’t like her duties.
I can’t Imagine what judge would be so downright simple as to even waste time listening to this claptrap. There is no legal argument that I know of.
blake
This site has become over run with racists.
Queerty should be ashamed of itself for not taking a stand against such ignorance.
P.S.
1) The Southern Baptists are a predominately white church that have a history of anti-black racism for which they belatedly apologize.
2) The Seattle minister is named Ken Hutcherson. His church is predominately white. Hutcherson is a Republican who is closely aligned with the Bush administration.
3) The majority of homophobic hate crimes that occur in the U.S. are committed by white males. The most famous recent homophobic murders have been committed by white males:
Lawrence King, Gwen Arujo, Brandon Teena, Matthew Shepard, etc. were all BUTCHERED, SLAUGHTERED, SLAYED, LYNCHED, or KILLED by white males.
4) The most powerful anti-gay forces in America have all been led by white males:
Republican Party
Catholic Church
Evangelical Right
Jerry Fawell
Pat Robertson
Dr. Dobson
Rush Limbaugh
Ann Coulter
Concerned Women of America
The Boy Scouts
Etc.
Pretending that African-Americans or black worldwide are the source of your homophobic angst is simply pathetic. Look in the mirror. The people who have control and power look like you, Church-Nazi, R2D2, etc.
RPCV
Mr. C: I suspect that you’ll be seeing Ronnie L. White shortly. You know what I mean….
Mr C
Blake,
Thank you so much I need not say anything further on this matter. It’s amazing how other people know so much about you. But yet blame you for everything. But when their own do these things, they pay it no mind and seek further to blame others.
Basically their telling Blacks how dirty our closets are instead of cleaning their own out. Then want to call you racist for responding to their first rabid attacks.
But this is entertainment for me regardless how I respond.
Once again to all you assholes who got offended over my comments to Churchill-Y
NO APOLOGIES
Get the fuck over it.
Read some of his posts on here and this is why I respond to him as such and if you’re one who believes with him.
Then FUCK YOU!
RPCV…….I don’t know him, nor do I need to.
Phoenix (the illigitimate spawn of hippie free love not the Pale one )
I thought this particular article was about RELIGION not race. Why the vitriol about race? I’m sure that Lillian Ladele would be as spectacular an asshole as white, asian, hispanic, native american or what have you as she would still be a x-tian. And lately all true X-tians have become true haters, no matter what their race is.
Rudy Vallee
Hey the Bible supports slavery too.
Shackle up the bitch because that is what her precious God wants. While you at it, find out if she every talked back to her parents or committing adultery, because if she did, her precious bible dictates that she should be stoned to death.
Christians are SCUM
Lock up the Christian assholes. I don’t agree of their LIFESTYLE of HATE. Let them sit in mental asylum until they can learn to think critically and logically…
She's a Bitch
Look at that FAT COW. I think she has forgotten that GLUTTONY is one of the SEVEN DEADLY SINS.
Stupid bitch.
troy
Its good to know that all the hate is actually coming from white folk, I guess we can all go to Jamaica and dance our little LGBT
asses off in the streets, maybe we could have a gay Raggae festival!
And lets all go to Uganda where we can join the African Anglican
Church and worship our gay little assess off with no fear of reprisal.
No, blacks are the most open minded gay inclusive race on the planet. No homophobia there!
And as far as the most powerful anti-gay forces being run by white males, Jesus Christ, everything in America is run by white males, both good and bad, including the gay movement. That line doesn’t mean jack shit.
And to he who thinks queerty should monitor what you don’t approve of, I suppose the FISA bill is right up your alley, cause obviously freedom of speech is not something that you have much tolerance for. Everyone on this thread is exactly the same,
just a mirror image of one another.
marcus
When Obama visited a black church in Beaumont Texas last November this is what happened,
“And when Obama said we shouldn’t discriminate on the basis of race, the largely African American crowd cheered; when he said we shouldn’t discriminate on the basis of sex, the crowd cheered; and when he said we shouldn’t discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation, the crowd sat silent.”
I think that the reason race is coming into play with this thread is that people have a much more difficult time accepting acts and attitudes of bigotry and discrimination from a group or member of a group of people that have been victim of the very things that they perpetrate. But then the victim usually at some point takes the stance of perpetrator because from their experience they see that the perpetrator had the power and the victim did not, hence the smug look on this ladies face. And this is how the wheels of Karma keep spinning people and why it is so slow and difficult for humans to evolve, we keep doing the same shit, the same way and we get the same results.
MJ
I’ll say it again: I cannot WAIT to see if all the politically-correct gay activists who like to attack the softer targets (like at st. Patrick’s Cathedral, where the people are civilized enough not to assault them) show up to protest at the reggae march actually calling for the deaths of gays. Let’s see.
MJ
P.S. – Some of you guys are trying to make an argument as to who is more homophobic- blacks or whites, by choosing particular instances and examples. Don’t forget you have to look at the big overall picture, of countries and communities, to decide these things. Matthew Shepard got a lot of attention because he was visually pretty. But there are countless other homophobic assaults and murders that get no attention. One homophobic murder in…Scotland, let’s say….might be newsworthy, but there will be ten such murders in Zimbabwe that week that just won’t be as marketable, newswise. Etc., etc. That goes for regular non-gay-related crime, too.
troy
Very good point MJ, I doubt if we even hear of a fraction of the
assaults gays endure. I saw a large advertisement pedaling a discount travel package to Jamaica by a large local travel agency.
Do you think they would have promoted that country if they were known for something like raping women, or abducting children? Hell no, but they are known for atrocities against gays and trans-folk, but that does not receive a lot of heavy coverage outside of gay media. I doubt if most know the level of hatred that Jamaican society has for LGBT’s nor would they care much if they did. So I suppose all anti-gay movements aren’t ran exclusively by white males.
and MR. C, I am offended by your comments and you said fuck you to those who are. Will you be fucking me with that big 10″ black cock? Its good to know some stereotypes hold true.
Lock Em Up
I do not believe in the Christian LIFESTYLE of hate. Please round up all Christians and lock them up in mental asylums.
Have a nice day :o)
tallskin
I think what is interesting is that the press here in the UK have been overwhelmingly shocked by this verdict, appalled that religious bigotry has trumped the law.
Of course you get the arseholes and bigots writing in/blogging to express their delight that us buggers have been hit in the teeth, but responsible opinion has been very much on our side, cos they understand the important issues at stake here – namely that religious views cannot, must not, be allowed to over-rule the principles of a secular state and its laws.
I attach below a few links for you all to read (should you be interested ! )
The Telegraph, by the way, is the traditional conservative newspaper, so its liberal slant on the issue is heartwarming
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/07/12/do1205.xml
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/deborah-orr/deborah-orr-if-this-registrar-had-christian-views-why-did-she-ever-take-on-the-job-865813.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/11/gayrights.religion
Mr C
Troy,
Why are you offended? I wasn’t talking to you. Once again why don’t you search here on Queerty and read some of Churchill-Y’s posts. I’m tired that when he spews racial venom it seems to not bother you but because I responded the way I did???? it does…..TOUGH
He doesn’t like African Americans and because Obama is the presumptive Democratic nominee everything is negative and he want to associate all Blacks with negativity…
And I’m simply NOT HAVING IT
So once again….NO APOLOGIES
So if you believe like him with those type feelings…..OH WELL!
The Internet may be the downfall of honest public discourse
My god people! You really need to calm down.
Seriously, no matter how crude or racist someone may be, there is just no excuse for responding with a big “FUCK YOU”. Get over yourselves. Find some other outlet for your pent up rage against whites/blacks, all of you.
So congratulations to everyone here for displaying some of the lowest forms of modern evolved human behaviour on the face of the planet. I hope you feel better now that you got to throw a temper tantrum…
kelly
wow, she looks so similar…my brother told me he saw she has a personal profile and photo at a black bbw site called blackbbwmeet.com. Is that true…who knows…Maybe you should have a look
beelzebab
Another aspect to bear in mind is that islington council is a trendy leftwing PC council and when this woman was employed as a registrar it was probably under an ethnic quota system, not due to any ability of hers, but solely due to her skin colour and the need for the council to tick boxes.
She has not found another job because she would not be fit for purpose in any other job, no one would employ her, except, possibly a supermarket, to stack their shelves on the night shift.
Horrible but sadly true. I have worked with lots of these ethnic quota black women, and unlike say chinese or asian women (who are often brighter than me) the blacks I have worked with have obviously NOT been employed for their abilities in exercising their brain cells.