Ultimate Fighting and Pride Fighting Championship heavyweight champ Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira says that while has no problem rolling around shirtless with other men in tight compression shorts while male spectators hoot and holler, he will absolutely not train a gay dude in ultimate fighting because the gay dude might like it too much. Ugh. Why is it always the straight dudes who are the ones thinking about gay sex?
Here’s what Nogueira said:
“I have no prejudice against the gays, but I wouldn’t train with someone who’s gay. I have no malice, I don’t take our physical contact as (something) sexual. But what if the gay person has that malice of having physical contact with me, of staying there grappling? I would have no problems having a gay student in my academy, but I would rather not train with him.”
So that means that he wouldn’t teach women how to grapple either, right? And does he figure out the sexual orientation of all his students before they grapple? No, of course not. Maybe all those punches to the head has confused our heavyweight that no one gives a flying face-kick about sexual orientation when they’re fighting for your career in the Octagon of Pain.
JEREMIE
Not sure why we should expect someone who gets hit repeatedly in the head to say something even remotely intelligent. Who cares what this jackass thinks?
hf2hvit
“Does this dick in my ass make me look gay?”
jason
What a silly human being! Reminds me a bit of 50-Cent. I wonder if he has the latter’s lisp, too.
Tom
Can you guys post the videos being posted on this Michele Bachmann campaign page?
http://www.youtube.com/user/bachmann4president
They’re actually so homophobic I think I’m going to puke.
Mike in Asheville
Uhhhm, bet he has trained with, and has grappled and has been grappled, with MANY gay men!
Mr. Enemabag Jones
He’s probably just afraid of getting beat by a gay man.
Eagle Eggs
He doesn’t have to deal with gays if he doesn’t want to. He is not homophobic. His PREFERENCE is to not train gays, and that’s ok.
christopher di spirito
He’s ugly, dirty, stupid and has cauliflower ears.
MikeE
@Eagle Eggs: if he thinks that a gay man would have only sex on their mind, then yes, he is homophobic.
“oh, I’d rather not train with a black man, he might want to rob me. But I have nothing against black people.”… is that not racist?
timncguy
I think your headline is wrong. Where it says “doesn’t WAIT to train” it probably should say “doesn’t WANT to train”.
Daniel Villarreal
@timncguy: Oops! Thanks for the heads up.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
In my experience, any “straight” man who’s afraid to have contact with, or be near a gay man, usually desperately wants to be near one. Nogueira doesn’t want to train with a gay man, because he’s afraid that he may become aroused.
Pete n SFO
He looks to me like what we used to refer to as a “shut up and fuck.”
I miss the ‘ol PC days. Don’t you? 🙂
darkskin bttms R survivors
UF and UFC is just LAmE IMHO.. I’d rather watch “real” boxing
Dali
“Why is it always the straight dudes who are the ones thinking about gay sex?”
Actually, I’m a gay dude and believe me, I think about gay sex ALL THE TIME, especially when watching UFC.
chrissie riot
I like how a gay man acting on his inevitable attraction to Antonio while training would be malicious.
xander
@chrissie riot : Maybe he meant ‘manlicious’? \/
Noguiera has the mistaken beliefs that he can ‘tell’ who’s gay and that any gay man will, by definition, will confuse sex with sport.
Those closed head injuries sure can mess with one’s cognitive faculties — he may be a prime example
Jperon
With a face like that? He’s safe.
Michael
Another stupid uneducated jock gee what a shocker 😛
james_from_cambridge
@Jperon: FTW! He’s so hideous he qualifies as a triple-bagger. One bag over his head, another over mine in case his falls off and one over my cat’s face. ’cause I’d be so embarrassed I wouldn’t want Tiger to see a thing.
Ken S
Sweetie, with those misshapen cauliflower ears I don’t think I could get turned on grappling with you if you pinned ‘n rimmed me ’til my colon squeaked like something out of a dish soap commercial. 😛
hf2hvit
@Ken S: Those cauliflower ears look like LOVE HANDLES to me!!!
MikeE
to be fair, I told myself: “myself, maybe it’s just a bad picture?”
well, me and myself decided to go look for some more flattering pics of him.
there were no pics of him with a bag over his head, and sadly, that would be the only improvement I can imagine.
the dude is a dog, and if he thinks all the gay guys are going to have the hots for him, he has one nasty ego-bruising lesson to learn.
Adman
Nog is a prizefighter and a professional. If there were any way in life as we know it to promote an openly gay fighter, (by which I mean if Dana White could sell pay-per-views with a card featuring a fighter who has a husband, for example) he would train with the guy, and he would have plenty of reasons to publicly denounce homophobia in the sport without associating himself personally with “teh gay”. I guarantee you he would roll with me if I told him I’d submit his sorry old ass in front of his coaches, for example, and there would be no grudges or shit talk after the fact either. It’s just that it’s an unknown factor at the moment, with the sport being marketed as if gay fighters don’t exist.
If someone gay came along and changed the sport, they would have to be savvy enough to convince Dana and the Fertitas to market them, which is again, a huge unknown. Can it even be done? What if the UFC tried to market a gay guy and failed? What if there was a huge backlash, and the company lost revenue/ Wouldn’t they have to cut the guy and be pilloried as homophobes? But then as it stands, how many non-heteros out there are capable of handing GSP his ass in the cage? A couple? Three? Maybe, since with the status quo we’ll never know.
It is a business, and it features people who fight in a cage for money. If I was that gay prospect, and couldn’t make money what would I do? It’s tough to throw “homophobia” around about people that you know who are trying to make a career while thinking it has something to do with you either way, because in fact it doesn’t. It’s about the buying public and the fights they want to watch. To me this means when fighters make comments about anything non-hetero, they are being forced to answer an empty question. They have to sell the company line, which isn’t necessarily homophobic, it’s more non-inclusive for marketing reasons. I train at Martial Arts with my partner and we roll four times a week with too many straight guys ( and gals, sometimes lately) to count. Everybody knows, and yet nobody cares, but then we aren’t trying to promote our “fighting careers” nor fight for money.
Dali
@Adman: “They have to sell the company line, which isn’t necessarily homophobic”
Are you kidding? The “company line” is absolutely homophobic! Whether it is fair or not, the company hears many comments on how “gay their sport is” and of course, as a proper homophobe will do, they distance themselves from anything remotely related to anything possibly gay!
Ross
I’m a gay man, but I get embarrassed at how dramatic and over reacting gay people can be. Who cares if he doesn’t want to grapple with a gay guy? As a gay man, I wouldn’t want to grapple and wrestle around on the ground with a WOMAN! EWWW!! Does that make me homophobic?
Give him a break, he’s just being honest. He’s actually a classy guy if any of you have watched UFC with any regularity.
Steven
HAHAHAHAHA … LMAO @ JPERON … LOL exactly dude, exactly … i dont think he’s homophobic and I don’t think he’s scared of getting aroused … i think he doesn’t want to do it so that he won’t get teased for fighting/sexually wrestling with a gay guy … WHO CARES ANYWAY HE’S A NOBODY … AND UN-ATTRACTIVE NOBODY.
Danny
I find nothing wrong with way he said.The true is him grappling with a gay guy the gay guy would pop a boner.We all know it’s true.It would be if a woman said she didn’t want to wrestle a man.Same thing,and I think he it kind of hot.I like rugged real men.
CMObrero
Your generalization about his generalization is funny. He didn’t say gay men think about sex all the time. He could have meant men -in general- think about sex all the time. Wich is not correct either, but it’s not homophobic. It’s sexist.
Either way, I think Ross has a point in here: american gay men are a bunch of dramacuins. They are following the same inclusion policy than “negros” back in time: they try to ghetticize gays as they did with afros. That way, if any negro says a negro thing, it’s right, but if a white guy say’s something about them, it’s racist. Either way if a gay man say’s every fag thinks about sex all the time, it’s ok, but if a straight guy say’s that. Oh my god it’s the douche of the week!
I wish things don’t develop that ways here in Chile with this, so that we don’t have to deal with ghetticized douchebags in the future.
Dali
@Ross: Rest assured. Your comment on the fact that you wouldn’t want to “grapple and wrestle around on the ground with a WOMAN” doesn’t make you homophobic, as you are questionning. Actually, your comment might just make you a little dumb. No question.
xander
@Ross : If you’d ever engaged in grappling or rolling in a sport along the lines of a cagefight or MMA, you’d realise that you only immediate goal is victory (a.k.a. annihilation!) of your opponent (aka enemy), NOT sexual stimulation! Anyone unfocused enough to think of anything sexual will be lain flat in 3 seconds.
Ross
LOL…my questioning if that made me homophobic was rhetorical, not serious! Of COURSE I’m not homophobic…just don’t want to roll around around the ground with a female. I wrestled from 8th grade till I was a sophomore in college, and anybody who tells you that sex doesn’t pop into your head when you make a hard hip pop, or when you’re on your back in full guard, has no clue and no experience in a match. Boners are NOT uncommon, in a match or in a locker room…it’s not just some cheap porno line.
Dali
I can’t believe the people who say that this guy’s comments ARE NOT HOMOPHOBIC. Just for argument’s sake, let’s say they are right:
(Sarcastically, for those who might not get it)
NEVER in the whole History of Humankind has any homophobic person ever TEASED, insulted, BULLIED, punched, physically abused, KILLED A HOMOSEXUAL person because he feared that:
“the gay person has that malice of having physical contact with me (Nogueira’s words, not mine).
Never has that fear been a defense in any court of law in the whole World! Gays are just “drama queens”.
faggot1
@Tom: Last I checked after voting “thumbs down” the vote was 472 down , 13 up. I be happy with that.
CMObrero
@Dali
He has not killed anyone. I thought it was fully stated that generalization is a dangerous behaviour.
Dali
@CMObrero: Whether he has or has not done anything of my previous comment, the question does not lie there
I HAVE NEVER ACCUSED HIM of what you are implying.
You have taken ONE single word out of my comment and with prejudice have said it was a generalization because…
you have previously, in this forum, “fully stated that generalization is a dangerous behaviour.”
What makes you the boss of us? Who do you think you are giving us orders of what to say or not?
You are close to being a demagogue.
Patsy Stoned
Damn…you sure is UGLY!
ewe
Will he evolve and should we wait around for it?
Adonis-of-Fire
His mentally retarded neanderthal look would not turn me on.
T. finn
Why are straight men so insecure with their sexuality? The part about not wanting to train a gay dude is stupid. Who is thinking about sex while they are fighting? I think he would be more worried in the shower afterward. He has probably showered with many men, and just doesn’t know it. What, is the guy going to walk up and say, Hi, I’m gay, and I want you to train me. Dumb, dumb, dumb. I think anyone who is serious about the sport is not going to announce their sexual orientation.
Adman
@Dali: Ehhhhh, that’s where you’re wrong. You’ll see Dana and spokespeople (*cough* Joe Rogan *cough) throwing around “gay” and “faggot” one minute, and then creating gay positive messages the next. If you say that’s hands down homophobic, then I disagree. It’s fence sitting, trying to appeal to the broadest possible audience.
I think if our community could talk about this contemporary business reality when it comes to “culture wars” and it’s intersections with commerce and corporate whoredom in general, we’d be a lot better off than we are now. As it is, we’re listening to the GLAAD and HRC out of touch brigade as they drive hysteria to entice donations. (sound familiar? fRight wing “politics” anyone?). But that’s just me, I guess.
Dali
@Adman: I believe you are being delusional. And please stop throwing names around like you personally know people in the UFC and know their thoughts and agendas on the issue. It doesn’t make you anymore right, unless, of course, you are one of them and would do the right thing and reveal yourself.
velocifero
What I dislike are pseudo intellectuals from small south American countries who are more hung up about sex and masculinity — thanks to the catholic church — making long winded attempts at justifying an idiots behavior. The problem is this sport has a PR problem because let’s be real — it gives so called straight men a chance to ogle nearly naked men touching each other. I am sure many “fans” go home and fantasize about these men while having intercourse with their female partners (getting head). Which is fine in my opinion aa it’s their life to waste — but that’s why they are so obsessed with being clocked as gay.
jason
Also, have you noticed how a lot of these straight men enjoy watching lesbian action? LOL. They claim they’re straight yet they enjoy watching homosexual activity between women. Double LOL.
These straight guys are pathetic dweebs. Their brains consist of mush and shit.
Robbie K.
As if we need further training on how to pin down a man anyways..we invented it
CMObrero
@velocifero
I’m not justifying him. I’m saying his attitude is not homophobic, it’s sexist and stupid.
@Dali: I’m sorry if it sounded like I was imposing a statement. I didn’t meant to, sice I don’t fully understand english and specially USA connotations given by your different culture. I was trying to emphasize MY statement, maybe the wrong way. By the way, you don’t have to be such a douchebag about it. I see now how full of prepotent dramaqueens your country is. Wait, that’s a generalization, maybe it’s just you. Anyway, it’s easy to attack the fact that I made a mistake -yes, I make lot’s of mistakes everyday, it’s cool, ’cause, you know, when I do, chance comes to learn- instead of telling me why would generalization not be an act of extreme stupidity and/or a dangerous behaviour. So please, (i’m not ordering anything, i’m politely asking for) you could answer to the arguments in front, insted of answering (with attacks) to the demagogic comunist behind thisk south american underdeveloped desk.
OneVoice
No. 10 · timncguy
I think your headline is wrong. Where it says “doesn’t WAIT to train” it probably should say “doesn’t WANT to train”.
Posted: Aug 21, 2011 at 12:34 pm · @Reply · [Flag?]
No. 11 · Daniel Villarreal · Member · 177 comments
@timncguy: Oops! Thanks for the heads up.
Posted: Aug 21, 2011 at 12:53 pm · @Reply · [Flag?]
Oops? Oops? There is something wrong with each of your posts!
Post By: DANIEL VILLARREAL
NO!!!!!!!!!!!
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Adman
@Dali: Ahhh, I’ve been talking to an idiot. Gotcha.