Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, the Democrat from Arizona, was shot at close range in the head while hosting a meet-and-greet event at a Safeway in Tucson, which drew a crowd of a few dozen. There were about a dozen others injured; the suspected gunman Jared Loughner first shot Giffords and then began firing indiscriminately, killing a young nine-year-old child, federal judge John Roll, and at least three others.
A member of Giffords’ staff tackled and detained the gunman until the sheriff arrived some 20 minutes later, though there were authorities near the scene.
The congresswoman, who was moving after the shooting, has been rushed to the hospital. The motivation behind the attack is unclear.
Remember when Sarah Palin advised supporters to put Giffords in their “crosshairs” over Obama’s health care overhaul? Back in March, when Giffords’ congressional office was vandalized, she specifically mentioned the ex-governor for her awful sharpshooting imagery.
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reason
Who wants to bet that this was done by some tea party “patriot,” who ever did this needs to be punished in public. She has been harassed by right wingers after health care passed and after winning reelection beating out a tea party favorite. A victim has already died and children have been shot, while Rush and co. continue to demagogue and advocate violence with Palin putting democratic congresspeople in gun crosshairs. They should be arrested and sentenced right along with this villain that has destroyed many families today and attacked our very democracy. Our country cant continue like this where prominent people are advocating murder with their dog whistles.
I am hoping for the best for the congresswomen and everyone else that has been hurt, I also extend my condolences to the loved ones of the deceased.
reason
Congresswomen Giffords that has been shot in the head was actually one of the individuals that Palin had in her gun crosshairs that she published all over the internet and had on national t.v. She is disgusting and culpable in this shooting and the lose of life that has already occurred.
http://twitpic.com/3o7jnn
eagledancer
Sigh–shooting a democrat is so unfair in Arizona where they are an endangered species. Of course, I’m living (and voting) in Arizona where as soon as I moved here, a law was passed allowing the locals to carry guns into bars. I’ve just been surprised there haven’t been more shootings. Oh wait, there was a shooting and a multi-hour hostage situation last week at a different shopping mall about 20 minutes from our condo.
Of course, there will more likely be a higher number of people who die from Governor Jan Brewer’s death panels amongst the poor who depend upon state health care after she slashed the budget for organ transplants. The death toll for that so far is two in as many weeks.
Rossi
@REASON-you said it before I could. I am almost embarassed that my first thought after hoping she is going to be okay, was “I bet the shooter is a republican”.
reason
@Rossi: Tell me about it, it is okay to disagree with someone ideologically but when you have prominent figures in the party that are saying in doing things that are off the wall… People get very emotionally when it comes to politics and what a number of figures are doing on the right is just downright despicable, the elected officials in the GOP that are supposed to speak out against this kind of stuff actually were rooting on a rancorous crowed at the capitol during health care where some democratic congresspeople ended up being assaulted. This kind of stuff is unacceptable in the democratic party, why do so many republicans promote this kind of thing?
Mr. Enemabag Jones
A member of Giffords’ staff tackled and detained the gunman until the sheriff arrived some 20 minutes later.
Twenty minutes later? What did the goddamned cops do, stop for doughnuts on the way?
I tell every liberal/progressive friend living in states with concealed carry laws the same thing: buy a gun, learn how t use it, and carry it.
The rightwingers are desperate for a new civil war, and we better be prepared for it.
Can’t wait to see how the Republicans spin this one.
eagledancer
The Congresswoman looks as if she’ll pull through, but at the same shooting, a Federal Judge was actually killed–here’s his bio from the judgepedia:
Judge Roll in 2009, faced death threats after presiding over a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed by illegal immigrants against an Arizona rancher. After Judge Roll ruled the case would be certified, threats came from talk-radio shows which fueled controversy and spurred audiences into making threats against the judge[2].
The threats materialized after one show, Judge Roll’s name logged more than 200 phone calls as some callers threatened the judge and his family[2].
This resulted in the judge and his wife were under a protection detail for one month as Judge Roll was given twenty four hours a day, seven days a week security by the US Marshals Service. An US Attorney’s investigation ruled that four men were identified as threat makers, but no charges were filed[
reason
@Mr. Enemabag Jones: In the rush to cut government and block federal aide to the states to support public services and teachers there may be a lot less cops on the street than you think. The money that could have been brought in to keep cops on the street went to billionaires, the GOP couldn’t settle for 1 or 2 million dollar a year compromise they wanted billionaires. At what cost? You are right, the tea party wants a war and we along with other minorities will be the first people they come after. You know how they will spin it, the same old punch line, it is just the liberal media and left wing loons trying to blame everything bad that happens on conservative patriots.
reason
It should be noted that out of that Palin target list that I linked to Giffords was one of the two that managed to get reelected. Palin had put a red mark indicating the one’s that chose to retire, the others were eliminated by loosing the election, and the two that won they proceeded to the third step shooting Giffords in the head. I am so utterly disgusted. This is not about the constitution, taxes, and other things the tea party rants about, it is about hatred and destruction. When they say take back the country they are talking about taking it back as one would take back a city in a war, by putting all of the dissenters six feet under.
reason
“Her father Spencer Giffords, 75, wept when asked if his 40-year-old daughter had any enemies.
‘Yeah,’ he told The Post. ‘The whole tea party.'”
ewe
Very sad because it is standard that people running for congress hang outside supermarkets shaking hands of potential voters but for her to come back to a supermarket after she is already elected and sworn in is impressive.
scribe
Everyone lets take a breath and calm down a little bit… We don’t know if this was a teabagger thing or something else. Lets just pray for the woman and everyone else shot, and wait to blame the right people when the truth comes out.
justiceontherocks
Jared Loughner has at least three You Tube videos. He is a wack job, phobic about people who can’t speak English as well as he does, and thoroughly anti-government and organized religion. There is no indication he is a teabagger.
Let’s get some more facts, reason, before throwing around accusations.
reason
@scribe: It is a teabagger thing, they are out their inciting violence, when that happens it is not the Jan Brewers and Johnny Suit Republican that we have to worry about but any deranged loon that may be a tea party wacko or someone out there that is just crazy political or not. The kind of actions by Palin and the like make the insane feel like they will be lionized by caring out actions that are propagated by the right wing dog whistles. It had been said over in over that these messages could insight the mentally insane, I can still hear Chris Matthews saying it months ago. Furthermore, this seems to go beyond one crazed individual in that a second person has been arrested and they are looking for a third so far.
justiceontherocks
Reason – you are a lunatic. Change your screen name to Paranoid.
You need to wait and learn what the facts in this case are before launching into your screeds. There’s no excuse for the political environment hateful teabaggers create, and there’s no evidence, so far, they had anything to do with this.
Simon
I couldn’t live in country where anybody from street can shoot me in bright day. Gun possession is one of the stupidest laws you have in USA. You should change it.
Baxter
@reason: Going by the web pages that supposedly are linked to him, the guy is just crazy and has no discernible ideology. He lists both Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto among his favorite books, he’s an atheist, he supports flag burning, and hates the Constitution. Those don’t exactly scream Tea Party to me.
reason
@Baxter: And when a popular political figure is out there inciting violence just who do you think it will motivate to do something crazy?
Baxter
@reason: OK, you can blame Sarah Palin for this and I’ll blame Al Gore for inciting the wacko liberal environmentalist who took the Discovery channel hostage a year ago. Or maybe we can just agree that there are crazy people out there and that crazy people do crazy things. These people are usually schizophrenic and no politician made them that way.
ewe
Absolutely no surprise that FoxNews anchor is blabbering on about gODD with the person he is interviewing. That station is contributing to this fanaticism even moments after such a horrific tragedy.
reason
@Baxter: Anyone with any bit of common sense is aware that there are crazy people, schizophrenic people, and psychotic people out there which is why any politician with a lick of intelligence doesn’t poison the well to the point of putting other public politicians in gun crosshairs! She was actually warned several times in the media with people explaining to her that there are crazy people out there that may literally target a politician. Al Gore never did anything that that would suggest doing something violent against someone else while Sarah did. Palin doesn’t understand the notion of responsibility and was never ready for prime time. The GOP was also warned from incitement when actual members of congress were ginning up protesters on the capital balcony with flags reading don’t tread on me and a democratic congressman was assaulted. What did the right say? They said that the members of congress made it up and had no proof that they were assaulted, instead of saying that there is no tolerance for violence and people need to take it down a notch. Now that someone has been shot in the head people want to back track and say oh well this is a crazy person, well no s;’t!!! That is what everyone has been warning about the entire time.
CJ
Queerty – the LGBT website that also serves as the anti-conservative website.
Too bad we can’t just let LGBT news and interests be the focus. Anytime there is a chance to slam conservatives… Queerty jumps on it. How about we just leave the anti-Palin/conservative stuff to MSNBC and the Huffington Post and get focussed on LGBT news.
Iowegian
Meanwhile, over at Hillbuzz they have screenshots of now-scrubbed Kossack posts placing a bulls-eye on Giffords back in 2008 and in which commenters rather violently denounce her moderateness. But, of course, only people on the right can inspire actual deeds of violence.
It appears the shooters’ web sites list the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf as among his favorite reads. He also posted a homemade YouTube video of a flag burning. That’s hardly the stuff one would associate with a Tea Partier.
Riker
What I’m seeing here is a hateful, anti-Constitution anarcho-communist zealot. Pretty much the opposite of everything the Tea Party stands for. Also pretty much the opposite of anyone who would be taking orders from Sarah Palin.
But of course, we immediately jump to blame Republicans even with all evidence indicating that they had nothing to do with it. I suppose the entire Democratic Party is to blame for the assassination attempt against Ronald Reagan too, isn’t it?
I suppose we’re also not allowed to use metaphors anymore, in case somebody doesn’t get it.
libhomo
There is no doubt. These shootings are Sarah Palin’s fault.
Riker
@libhomo: Evidence?
tjr101
Sarah Palin and many on the far right in the media incite violence with their rhetoric. My heart goes out to the congresswoman and all those impacted by this senseless crime.
ewe
@CJ: Queerty – the LGBT website that also serves as the anti-conservative website.
Read more: http://www.queerty.com/az-rep-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-head-at-public-event-20110108/#ixzz1AUsnbUKF
HUH? LGBT people just happen to live and opertate within the larger community.
ewe
@CJ: There are LGBT people that also happen to be the constituents of this woman?
Sarah!
People on the right are sympathizing for the horrible shooting. The far left (queerty) is just projecting their insane hatred onto others as usual.
reason
@CJ: @Sarah!: Obviously not frequent visitors to this site, or are clueless. Queerty has been anti-Obama since his election, and have bashed the democrats. An issue like this makes anyone pause and analyze whats been going on and the results of some very irresponsible individuals.
Sarah!
Left-Wing Pothead Atheist Commits Mass And Queery blames SarahPalin. great analyis
ron
Ha! The liberals are killing liberals now. I guess unborn babies weren’t enough.
Devon
Railing against big gubment taking away his freedom, ranting about currencies no longer backed by silver and gold, obsessed with guns, complaining about “illiteracy” in Arizona, calling federal laws treasonous, a laundry list of favorite books with an “individual vs. the establishment” theme running throughout…Yeah, definitely sounds like a typical left-winger to me.
“Oh but he’s just crazy! You can’t blame Glenn Beck for what a crazy person does!”
Yes I can. The mentally disturbed don’t live in some alternate dimension, they live in the same world we do. They hear the same rhetoric, see the same images. The average, run of the mill teabagger might see Sarah Palin’s hit list as innocuous, think Glenn Beck’s perpetual stream of “Governments evil! Buy gold! Obama is a foreign, Muslim, anti-American radical coming to kill your grandmother and lock you up in a FEMA death camp!” insanity is just one man being passionate about his country, find Jesse Kelly taking his supporters out to shoot an assault rifle as part of a “remove Gabrielle Giffords” rally as harmless fun, and dismiss Sharron Angle’s talk of “second amendment remedies” as nothing more than simple campaign rhetoric…But when you spoon-feed that mountain of crap to someone already susceptible to it, you don’t get to act surprised and claim your hands are blood-free when someone gets shot because of it.
scribe
@CJ: There is nothing unfair in Queerty posting of this story. Please view my earlier post about not jumping to blaim the teaparty. Queerty announced that she was shot, a fact. They announced that she had received threats in the past and her office was damaged, a fact. They posted that Palin put her on a web site with cross hairs over the state, placing the rep. in the cross hairs, a fact. They didn’t say this dude was a teabagger or a fan of palin, didn’t jump to blaim anyone.
it is a bad idea to put people in cross hairs on web sites, just like posting the names and addresses of doctors who do abortions.
Sarah!
The left and media, in perpetuating the lie that the shooter was a tea party activist, may wrongly incite violence against the right.
Baxter
@scribe: I fully expect Queerty to report that Daily Kos also wrote about putting a “bullseye” on Giffords’s district. Fair and balanced, right?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568
scribe
@Baxter: went to the link you gave and don’t understand what it had to do with this story or my comments… To sarah, ron, and the rest of the people feeling that queerty is bent to the left what do you expect it to be??? This is a site that supports gay rights and gay marriage, the things that most repubs and teabaggers run against. IF you want a right bent site against those things go to foxnews… secondly there is nothing pointing that this dude was a lefty. IF he was why would he kill another lefty??? So far he seems to just be a nut…
scribe
Again I am not going to blaim this shooting on the repubs, at least not until some more proof comes out. I will say though is that party leaders, talk radio host, and the thousands of people carrying guns and signs of obama with a bone in his nose need to look at their behavior and how it might incite people with a lose hold on reality.
reason
Finally t.v. news has grown a pair and has brought up Palin’s role in all of this, even the local sheriff has brought up political rhetoric and how it threatens to rip that state to shreds. Republicans like Rove know that Palin is dangerous and are doing everything in their power to figure out how to knee cap her. I look forward to hearing what Scarborough has to say on Monday, one of the few republicans that man up sometimes and calls b.s. b.s. I am aware it is a sensitive time and we need to stay positive for the victims and their families, but we need to deal with this garbage once in for all so other lives are not lost due to it. Rush should have been muzzled a long time ago and Palin should be next on the list,the later for the sake of the Republican party, a congresswomen has been shot in the head what more has to happen.
ewe
@scribe: Again I am not going to blaim this shooting on the repubs, at least not until some more proof comes out. I will say though is that party leaders, talk radio host, and the thousands of people carrying guns and signs of obama with a bone in his nose need to look at their behavior and how it might incite people with a lose hold on reality.
Read more: http://www.queerty.com/az-rep-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-head-at-public-event-20110108/#ixzz1AWJyEXwD
well i have no problem placing the blame on the repuglycunts because I have no doubt that those people you just described are registered republicans.
Steve
This is truly unfortunate, but very predictable. We have known for years that, if you tell a lie often enough, people will eventually believe it. And, when you suggest an action often enough, some people will eventually do it.
Right-wing politicians have been suggesting “second amendment remedy” far too often. While they have the right to speak, they also have a responsibility to be careful what they say. Be careful what you wish for, because you might just get it.
The second amendment really is there so that people can use guns to defend themselves, both from other people and from an oppressive government. But it is irresponsible in the extreme for politicians to suggest using guns for political gain. Those politicians are directly responsible for these deaths.
ewe
@Steve: And those politicians you speak of are repugnant Republicans. Can we all just have no problem saying that fact please?
reason
Sheriff Clarence Dupnik (The Sheriff of the town where the shooting took place)
“‘When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous,’ said the sheriff. ‘And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry.”
When asked by a reporter if Giffords being shot could have been motivated by ‘prejudice and bigotry,’ Dupnik responded, ‘All I can tell you is that there’s reason to believe is that this individual may have a mental issue. And I think that people who are unbalanced are especially susceptible to vitriol.'”
It is pretty clear that the investigating sheriff is talking about Palin and her tea party compatriots with Palins hit list and quotes about “don’t retreat, reload.”
AL
Every time there is a tragedy like this, intelligence and common sense are instantly being flushed down the toilet. This is absolutely disgusting how people are now suggesting that the suspect who shot at the congresswoman is a face of American conservatism. It’s outrageous! Do you people even realize that political views of that coward are not even close to conservatism? The guy lists Main Kampf and Communist manifesto as his favorite political books. As far as I am concerned, anyone who puts those two items in the same sentence is confused beyond salvation. Clearly he’s also anti-government, not anti-big-government the way conservatives put it, but literally anti-government. Also, the guy hates police and CIA. None of that sounds like conservatism to me. The guys is obviously an anarchist. His target could have easily been a Republican/conservative. I ran into some conservative websites that portray the shooter as a left-winger.
Do you see where this is heading to? Conservatives are desperate to picture the suspect as a liberal, while liberals are desperate to see him as a conservatives. THAT’S OUTRAGEOUS! An elected official is shot by a pathetic looser and, as a result, both political camps are acting like preschoolers and blaming each other for this tragic event. You lost your sanity, you divided up the nation, and you are now attempting to ignite more conflict. You put your ignorance on a pedestal, then proudly proclaim your self-righteousness in pursuit of demonizing your fellow citizens. OUTRAGEOUS!!!
Steve
@AL wrote: “This is absolutely disgusting how people are now suggesting that the suspect who shot at the congresswoman is a face of American conservatism. It’s outrageous!”
I don’t think it is outrageous, at all. I think it’s the truth.
The guy went to a Democrat party event specifically to shoot at democrats. Clearly the shooter is not “moderate”, and he is not “left-wing” or a “democrat”. And, he did exactly what some “conservative” speakers have been calling for, regularly, for the last several years. Clearly, he is somewhere on the lunatic fringe, but just as clearly, it the conservative part of the lunatic fringe.
Joe
I agree we should wait to learn more about the shooter before we start making direct correlations. I also think there is nothing wrong with calling Right-wing jerk wads on the carpet for their often violent-laden rhetoric. Also, for those of you listing Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto as some insight into his thinking, keep in mind that he also listed The Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland and Peter Pan as his favorites as well.
Oliver
As long as we stay out of Sarah Palin’s “crosshairs” we will be safe.
According to her target list…only two more congressmen to go.
Daez
@Baxter: They seem to scream QT to me.
tallskin2
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/us/politics/09giffords.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hp
From the NY times
“Ms. Giffords is a centrist Democrat who won re-election in part by stressing her strong support FOR GUN RIGHTS and for …..”
Ooops!
well her assassin certainly used his rights, didn’t he?
You yanks and your adolescent obsession with guns.
Daez
@scribe: If you seriously went there and didn’t see a connection maybe you missed the part where they listed this Giffords name and then wrote, “lets put a bulls eye on their district.”
tallskin2
We decadent Brits recently had a muslim loon stab a Member of Parliament in the stomach during a constituency meeting.
he survived.
But note the use of the word Knife there. No guns.
Britain, and indeed most of the civilised world, keeps very strict control of guns, most outright ban them.
We try to keep guns out of the hands of children and lunatics.
Remind me again how many people die each year in the USA due to the free availability of guns?
obiwan
This is really sad that so much violence is being espoused by people who claim to be Christian.
tallskin2
@obiwan
“This is really sad that so much violence is being espoused by people who claim to be Christian.”
Not really Obiwan. All the middle eastern sky pixie religions are inherently violent and call for non-believers to be killed.
Pip
She seems like a pretty incredible woman. Hope she’ll be able to recover and recover enough to function.
Justice
Palin, PalinPAC, and the Tea Party are guilty of inciting violence with their militant rhetoric (are they actively encouraging civil war? seems like it). Whether or not this crazy shooter was influenced by their actions has yet to be determined (and who is that second man involved?), but that doesn’t absolve the aforementioned in the least – if it wasn’t this guy it would eventually be someone else. They have blood on their hands. A just society would lock them up.
One question which continues to confuse me is why it’s so easy for a mentally unbalanced individual to purchase weapons in the U.S.A..
Benjamin
Everything Sarah Palin says is inflammatory and destructive to our society. When did we stop valuing intelligence and start celebrating idiots?
divkid
@tallskin2: all the middle eastern religions inherently violent…? no. too black and white. their just an all too human product of the flawed human mind which has inherent tendency towards violence AND ITS OPPOSITE. religion is ambiguous and contradictory on violence and can be harnessed as a powerful counter to violence: in a god-says-quit-the-violence-or-he’ll-kick yo-ass kinda way.
its just that its rarely been expedient so to do.
Baxter
@scribe: OK how about these maps from the Democratic Leadership Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee:
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=13647
They use bullseyes. They use phrases like “targeted Republicans” and “behind enemy lines”. OMG inciting violence!!!!
Ted B. (Charging Rhino)
Baxter, it’s only “violence” if it’s blamed on the Bloody-handed Right. If the Left does it it’s either “innocent fun”, “necessity” or “self-defense”.
Loughner was so-far to the Socialist/Anarchist Left that he was disqualified from joining the US military.
Sarah!
it just continues
The Left does some truly despicable things in this world, but this is a new low for Democrats.
Former three-time Democrat gubernatorial candidate Fred Phelps Jr. (commonly called just “Fred Phelps”) (with ties to the Gore family) and his Westboro Hate Group have announced plans to disrupt the funeral of 9 year-old shooting victim Christina Greene.
will queerty retract its dangerous hate language? what are they trying to incite?
this is what Dems were saying right before the incident. Scary.
http://bit.ly/evE1Jx
justiceontherocks
@Sarah! – cut the crap – tying the left to Fred Phelps?? No one will take you seriously if you do that.
Seems like people of both parties and on all sides of the political debate need to tone down the inflammatory rhetoric quite a bit.
Janet
You lot still don’t get it, do you? Everybody is complaining about how the current political atmosphere is inciting violence, but instead of calming down, you keep on putting the blame on certain groups. People on the right are blaming the left, and vice versa. Instead of STOPPING the cycle of hate and violence, you keep it going.
This shooter doesn’t seem like he belongs on the left, or on the right. Maybe he did get influenced by the current political climate, but that’s a climate where both the left and the right have contributed to. It’s not just the Liberals, and it’s not just the Conservatives. It’s both.
Sarah!
Weird how Sarah Palin’s hockey mom power is so awesome that she can convince an anarchist Obammunist to shoot a moderate congressman using only a Facebook page.’
AL
@Steve: So, if a democratic congressperson gets shot, the Republicans are guilty by default? Am I correct?
Baxter
@Janet: A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.
ewe
@Sarah!: You should shut it and keep it shut tight. Your thinking is twisted.
obiwan
No matter what excuses pundits plead, nor what ideological excuses people make: in all reality, this violent attack on Congresswoman Giffords and her entourage is inexcusable. It is really sad that we are such a violent society (the World is not our oyster, and this is how foreigners perceive Americans) and that some Americans perceive we, as Americans, have an ideological excuse to be cowardly and destructively violent towards those we disagree with.
justiceontherocks
@Sarah! – You!Are!A!One-Note!Idiot! Just like your idol, that moron from Alaska.
Sarah!
how so?
The media and democrats want us to focus on the nation’s “caustic political climate” after the tragedy yesterday. Maybe they should start with President Obama.
He may be the worst offender.
** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”
Sarah!
Gifford’s shooter is a registered DEMOCRAT
justiceontherocks
@ Sarah! – I’m sure you think you have a point in there somewhere, but you don’t. You’re as dumb as the people who assumed the shooter was a tea-bagger, which is to say you’re as dumb as a rock. Good luck on getting your GED.
eagledancer
Wouldn’t be nice if she ends up being elected as President from all this? And because she’s an active member of the GBLT Equality Caucus in congress, that she pushest the Queerty agenda?
Davey Wavey's Vagina Monologue
I honestly can’t believe people are more concerned with politics than the deaths of innocent people including a nine year old.
This is awful. Fuck the politics, I hope they find whoever did it and that freak gets the death penalty.
Aiming a gun into a crowded room to kill people is just plain disgusting.
eagledancer
So, what are the alleged shooter’s favorite books? Mein Kampf (hello holocaust), Communist Manifesto (it…”also stresses a kind of Utopia that can only be brought about by violence and conflict with the working class wresting power from the bourgeoisie (the owners of the means of production). This conflict is projected also to bring about the end of nation-states and, ultimately, all forms of government, resulting in a worker’s paradise.” http://www.indepthinfo.com/communist-manifesto/synopsis.shtml), Wizard of Oz (you overcome an enemy for killing her) and Peter Pan (I won’t grow up—I solve my problems with a sword…and the help of the fairy nation…thank god for pixie dust)…just observing…
ewe
@Sarah!: @Sarah!: You seem to be justifying this persons behavior.
ewe
@AL: So, if a democratic congressperson gets shot, the Republicans are guilty by default? Am I correct?
Read more: http://www.queerty.com/az-rep-gabrielle-giffords-shot-in-head-at-public-event-20110108/#ixzz1AaKnImqJ
No the right wing fanatics who spew hate speech daily are guilty by default. That is definitely the repuglycunts and some of the Democants yes. You act as if the repuglycunts have not been hostile to minorities with regards to immigration in Arizona, some of which are american citizens Bozo. You act as if the charts and video showing Sarah Palins offensive citizen targeting is somehow not related to the Repuglycunt party. It is. You probably think FUX NOOSE Network is not a cheerleading squad for the Repuglycunts too. Well they are and real journalists don’t speak about gODD as if it is an objective resource.
D Smith
@Sarah!:
did you seriously just try to link phelps to the liberals in the country… honestly hun… your going to have to try harder if you want to troll here…
ewe
We should start by taking Judge Judy off the air. Her tone and offensive rhetoric fuels this type of anger.
AL
@ewe: You are being paranoid just like everyone else who subscribes to polarized politics. How exactly does the right-wing rhetoric relates to the perpetrator of the shooting? Rhetoric is NOT a crime. Shooting at people IS a crime. Furthermore, it should already be clear that the shooter was neither a left-winger, nor a right-winger. Mein Kampf and Communist Manifesto? I mean, seriously, who is that twisted loon, and how exactly is he related to either liberals or conservatives? This is what’s terribly wrong with Western society: we blame groups of people, not individuals who are actually responsible for a certain crime. The suspect is an adult, and he is the one solely responsible for shooting. I can’t wait to see him in the execution chamber.
ewe
@AL: Judge Judy is dispicable. She violates the rules of court every show that she appears on. If you don’t think that is dangerous then we are never going to meet anywhere in the middle to agree on. It is not entertainment. The show says it is a real court proceeding but in reality if the show did not force the defendants and plaintiffs to sign away their right to appeal then EVERY SINGLE CASE JUDGE JUDY PRESIDES OVER WOULD BE OVERTURNED. That is dangerous honey and that is not just rhetoric. There is money through fines changing hands, millions in advertising dollars being made while exploiting the powerless and often in some real municipal courts there are periods of incarcertation limiting ones freedom that occurs. That is not just words. No you are mistaken. Them those are not just words honey. She is a danger to everything we say we hold dear and she is a token figure for many much more sinister that prop her up behind the scenes for profit. I have a problem with people wearing robes shredding our laws for a laugh and a buck. And people like alan Dershowitz happen to feel the exact same way i do. I am not alone in thinking she and those like her are a disgrace and dangerous.
ewe
@AL: It goes without saying that the suspect is the only one responsible for this crime. It also goes without saying that the judge judys, sarah palins and jan brewers of this world have enough assets to have their rights exercised and protected. The same cannot be said for those they trample.
ewe
I also think every police dept. that goes along with whatever joke and scam that ABCs “what would you do” program should be prosecuted. Ask yourself if you went over to a police dept. with a camera in hand and said you were conducting your own charade for profit and deceit so just ignore the 911 calls coming in if the police would honor your request? NO they would arrest you. Those are real issues and those issues will not be addressed of course until someone dies in one of their orchestrated politically correct jokes being pulled. Just one more example of abusive authority being paid by the public and working for the elite. There are countless others.
AL
@ewe: Wait a minute. Judge Judy? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you on drugs or a schizo case? I think you are in the wrong place to complain about Judge Judy.
ewe
@AL: Judge Judy is tearing the fabric of our judicial system to shreds. She is a DISGRACE. Her temperment is unforgiveable and i find her example to be of diabolical consequence for our civilized society. No AL, i am not kidding at all and i can chew gum and walk at the same time.
ewe
@AL: you cannot and i will not listen to anyone who places someone like judge judy with jerry Springer. Judge Judy is wearing a black robe and that represents something sacred. Her decorum is secular blasphemy. I know its all fucking small claims civil court issues. That means nothing. She should be disbarred immediately.
obiwan
Is this assassination an example of a second amendment remedy? I think this is something the American public needs to start asking ourselves?
meego
The shooter was nothing more than an MK Ultra mind controlled “robot”.
justiceontherocks
@ Ewe – if ewe really think an entertainment program like Judge Judy fuels the type of anger (if that’s what it was) expressed in Tucson on Saturday then ewe very much need therapy. I understand that you’re young and emotional and get carried away sometimes but you’ve got to think things through a lot better than that.
robert in NYC
Arrest scumbag Palin! Her venomous rhetoric over the past few years has a direct link to this type of violent crime. Interesting that as soon as this tragedy occurred, she removed the crosshair list from her site and issued a message of condolence to the families of the victims. What a hypocrite and a coward, typical republican right wing extremism. Expect more of that over the next two years and beyond. The GOP has become the most radical party, in fact the most dangerous ever since the Tea bagger party scum managed to take it over. I predict this will be the undoing of the GOP and Palin will be the one to do it.
Baxter
@robert in NYC: Blaming the right for this is equally absurd as blaming the left for Hinckley’s attempt to kill Reagan in ’81 or Fromme’s attempt on Ford in ’75. All of these acts were done by crazy people and their political ideology isn’t terribly important. It’s pretty messed up that people are trying to spin this as a way to squelch political debate.
You’d think that with all of the left’s complaints about how the right “demonizes” its political enemies that they might want to step back and consider what they themselves are doing when they accuse Palin of being an accomplice to mass murder or accuse all Tea Partiers of being racists.
jack e jett
Judge Judy, Carrot Top, and Sarah Palin.
Six of one, half dozen of the other.