Donnie McClurkin is the ex-gay gospel singing pastor who once sang for Barack Obama. This month, he became notable for another reason: Railing against a fellow gay gospel singing pastor.
In September, gospel singer Tonex came out, which didn’t surprise many, given the rumors. But McClurkin — who Obama disagrees with but, like Rick Warren, refused to exclude from his presidency — who says were it not for Jesus “I would be homosexual to this day,” sees no good in a man who sleeps with other men speaking to his same black church audiences. Which is why at Saturday’s Church of God in Christ’s Holy Convocation Youth Service, he went off the rail in attacking Tonex, and all of gay America.
All those “feminine men, feminine boys” that McClurkin sees are evidence this country is going to shit. (This, despite, McClurkin’s own carrying on with dudes.) He’s a guy who refuses to believe sexuality is innate; he once yearned for other men “because a broken man thrust an 8-year-old boy into this whirlwind.”
But McClurkin isn’t just going after batty boys, but as Rod 2.0 notes, girls too. He blames all their password-protected computers and iPhones. Heh, us too.
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This could easily be a comedy routine. Sadly, it is not, and these young people are tuning in.
Wonka
Religion, especially Hyper religiosity like this is a mental disorder that comes from extreme brokeness.
mojojojo
Just another example of the rampant homophobia of the black community!
terrwill
Follow this disgusting, vile, piece of shit and all the other “ex-Gays” for a week and I guarantee you will find them getting barebacked in a cruise area……………And yet another example of how these lunatics milk the Gay rhetoric as a cash cow for “donations to further the cause….”
Quake
lol I love watching church!
Its like commedy thats serious lmao
Mike L.
I wonder if maybe Pres Obama is one of those ex-gay victims of the black church, b/c as we know he didn’t become a real christian until he came to mainland America.
Is Obama an ex-gay? Anyone wanna spread the rumor, lol. Maybe thats why he’s not doing so much 4 us b/c he’s self hating. Poor Michelle it it may be (unless she’s a lesbian too???). Maybe that’s why Roland Martin was upset when someone was arguing with him about his wife changing a gay in the past (someone said that maybe it was b/c he was talking about himself), what it he was talking about Pres Obama? And maybe that’s why he was so upset.
Keith Kimmel
“My name is Barack Obama, and I told you all exactly what you wanted to hear to get elected. Now that I have your votes and all of my buddies in cushy do-nothing government jobs, I don’t care about you. Stupid homos. Actually, I never did care about you. But you had something I needed – a vote. I sat in the pews while my preacher told me what sinful little creatures you are. When I spoke to my conservative voter blocks, I was honest with them and I told them I thought you were filthy beasts who should be put to death. But when I spoke to you, I told you I’d get you married, get you jobs and let you share in the American pipedream. My buddies at HRC helped me make it look believable. Then I got your votes and I’m done with you. Just like a used condom. I had my fun and now i’m done. My name is Barack Obama, I am a lying piece of shit and I fucked your stupid asses over real good and laughed my way all the way to the oval office. Yay for me!! Vote Democrat! HRC loves you!!”
Republican
Mike L.,
The gay* rumor is one I’ve heard before, but I just don’t see the evidence for it.
*I refuse to call it ex-gay. You cannot be an ex-gay. You can be bi, a celibate gay, or a gay guy who sleeps with women to deny his orientation, but you cannot be an ex-gay.
romeo
Hard to tell at this point if Obama is really anti-gay so much as just ambitious. Pretty much obvious he doesn’t give much of a shit about us. Seems like now that he had just enough rhetorical skill to get himself elected (glib is a word I’ve used before about him). But it’s looking increasingly like he’s in over his head. Despite majorities in both houses, ALL Americans that voted for him are going to have four years of nothing, and then he’ll be replaced, because he’s just not going to grow a pair. I’d hoped it wouldn’t be the case, but he’s starting to look like that mayor of New Orleans that couldn’t get his shit together when the water started rising.
Brian
It’s just religion speaking. Obama is religious. That explains his inaction.
Mike L.
Ok, Megan McCain, I know you cannot be ex-gay I’m just using their term, Maybe I should’ve put it in quotations marks.
Well I don’t know that there is physical evidence, pictures etc, but there are a lot of gay men who pretend to be straight most of their lifes, and who knows how many more die with that secret never to have told another soul.
OMG I’m hoping for one of his children to be a gay, cuz as most people should really know, don’t ever assume your child is straight, and that they identify as they biological gender they’re born into. You just never know.
Republican are you straight and surfing this site or gay and a log cabin type?
Mike L.
We’re probably an after thought, damn it should’ve known a black president that goes to church would probably feel like this.
Just never really paid much attention how homophobic the black church was. Now if it were a hispanic president who went to either xtian or catholic church I would have been the first to think he was probably homophobic until proven otherwise (cuz I’m latino, so I would sorf of know that part of the latino culture).
And to tell you all the truth that’s what scares me about immigration reform, if passed it will only be 3-5 years after they become citizens if they wish that they’ll be able to vote and while most latinos tend to be democratic thinking they also tend to be socially conservative either b/c of church or simply machismo.
That’s why I really want to have all these things passed for equal rights b4 immigration reform.
Mike L.
Correction 3-5 years that they can apply for citizenship after having been a legal resident for that time, then they can vote right after so long as they registered in time.
I know b/c I went through the naturalization process starting august 2007 and finished may 2008 so I was able to vote, and yep first presidential vote was for OB, should’ve gone for Hil.
Also my evangelical christian bosses and coworkers (yes all 4 of them, not out of course, are you nuts, had to deal with all that jesus stuff and praying stuff for 2 years, ugh!), well they weren’t too happy very condescending in fact “you regitered democrat?! Oh well you’re hispanic of course.” Yeah i was pissed, but well I needed to work.
Also a time when they said I would have to respond to God when I died for not puting my name on a prefabricated prolife letter of hundreds they were sending, lol, good times, good times.
JR
Praise be the ‘Down Low’!!!
What an A class a-hole…
I’m done with Doh-bama as well. Wont vote for a second term of inaction and waffling
Republican
Mike,
Sorry if it sounded like I was criticizing you for using the term. That was not my intention. I’m just really tired of all the self-loathers out there who proudly state that they are “ex-gay” like it’s a fucking award.
To answer your question, I’m a gay (male) republican who has commented on quite a few articles on Queerty. This has generally not been a problem, as I think pretty much everyone here agrees on gay rights, even if they disagree about strategies and so forth. Occasionally I will get into it here with those on the other side of the aisle, but that’s only when the topic shifts to more general politics and away from gay issues.
As for Obama and the gay rumors, I agree that some men do a wonderful job of hiding it all their lives, but without pictures or any evidence like that, I’m not really comfortable going there.
Mike L.
Republican, I was kidding Rep, and well I don’t mind that you’re what you are so long as we agree on equal rights stuff and well no talk on other subjects lol cuz lets not go there hahaha.
Yeah I get what you mean, I was kidding about starting a rumor, but I just think everything is possible, although I wouldn’t ask him to his face if he’s an “ex-gay” lol, that would be all sorts of awkward lol.
peace.
Attmay
He’s still gay. He was born gay, and he’ll die gay.
What is it they say about the company you keep, BarryO?
Robert, NYC
Since South Park doesn’t leave any group out but treats slursds such as “fag” as humorous in certain contexts, then maybe we should start using the word “nigger” again. We can easily claim its only used in jest in this context. I’m sure this piece of filth wouldn’t mind because that’s just what he is and I’m sure he has a great sense of humor. Ok, McClurkin?
B
Brian wrote, “It’s just religion speaking. Obama is religious. That explains his inaction.” Do you expect Obama to turn into The Terminator and go back in time (completely naked, of course) to change whose singing he listened to in the past? After all, he’s only the president, not the governator of California.
Seriously, what do you expect him to do? Donnie McClurkin has a right to free speech, so there is nothing Obama can do to make McClurkin shut up. All of us, however, including the president, have a First Amendment right to ignore McClurkin or make fun of him for his stated views, but there is a social convention about the president trying to look dignified so don’t expect any wise cracks about McClurkin from the Oval Office.
jason
You can be an “ex-gay” in terms of your sexual activity. However, your overall sexual orientation remains bisexual or homosexual.
Quake
Why is my youtube homepage not playing any video’s?
The Artist
WOW!!!! White gay men once again lashing out at Obama. You know what you are all correct…CHANGE should come after being in office since January. As gay people, why the hell should we wait as long as black folks did to have freedom in this country. It’s 2009 and they (blacks) are still being discriminated against…we don’t want to wait. We need action NOW…forget baby steps. Now! Now! Now!
Keith Kimmel
“As gay people, why the hell should we wait as long as black folks did to have freedom in this country.”
LOL, we have been waiting for equality since the beginning of time. Before there were even any black people on this continent.
rudy
This business of linking Obama’s churchgoing to homophobia makes no sense. For 20 years he attended Trinity Church where Reverend Wright, whatever else you may think of him, supported the ordination of gay clergy, started one of the first AIDS ministries on the south side of Chicago, and even started a singles group for the church’s gay and lesbian members.
No one would go to a United Church of Christ church to become an “ex-gay.”
For a look at how the UCC view gay issues, you can check here:
http://www.ucc.org/lgbt/
Bill Perdue
McClurkin’s loathing for GLBT folks is in direct proportion to his admiration for Obama and “gawd’s in the mix”.
No. 8 • romeo Hard to tell at this point if Obama is really anti-gay so much as just ambitious.” It doesn’t matter. He acts like a bigot so he is, in real life, a bigot.
No. 9 • Brian “It’s just religion speaking. Obama is religious. That explains his inaction.” You’re getting better Brian, but you’re still only half right. Obama uses the cults to trawl for votes and they use him to collect federal bribes from his ‘faith based’ charity scam. And they all happily oppose our agenda. That’s exactly what Reagan, the Bushes and the Clintons did.
No. 17 • B Donnie McClurkin has a right to free speech…. As long as he stays away from hate speech that incites violence That’s not protected speech, especially when it comes from a basket-case pulpit pimp like McClurkin, “Friend of Barak” or not.
Tackle
To those who keep stating how the so-called black church is so homophobic, @Mojojojo, @Mike and the rest to come, let me remind you again, that the Mormon Church,97 percent white. The Catholic Church, over 90 percent white. Church of Scientology,95 percent white. Southern Baptist, 80 perecent white. The first three gave over ONE MILLION DOLLARS to pass prop 8. The Southern Baptist also gave big.There is NO such thing as the black church anymore than there is the white church. No one church speaks for all the blacks in the U.S. And all the blacks in the U.S. do not attend that church, or any one particular church. Blacks are looked upon as a group/collectively. Whites are looked upon more individually.
Bill Perdue
No. 24 • Tackle – exactly. The bigots in cults like the the national baptists, the ame cult and the nation of islam are all small potatoes compared to the heavy infantry of the homohating bigots – lds, the roman cult and the southern baptists (sobs), the pentecostals. Those groups are very powerful indeed.
The pentecostals are amnong the most bigoted and influential and are tied to politicial bigotry the same way the southern baptists were to the KKK. Influential pentecostals include Sarah Palin and ordained Pentecostal ministers and bigots Leah Daughtry of the DNC and Josh Dubois, who ran Obama’s ‘faith’ outreach program and now heads the WH ‘faith based’ scam to use federal tax money to bribe pulpit pimps. Add to that list McClurkin, Obama’s second most important cult backer, Jimmy Swaggart who vows to kill gay men and a whole slew of clerical riff raff so bad that a even a Republican, Grassley, is leading a federal investigation of their ugliest frauds.
The attempt to create enmity and divide African American and GLBT folks only benefits our enemies. We should not contribute to it in any way.
Attmay
@25 Tackle:
The homophobia of predominantly white churches does not excuse the homophobia of predominantly black churches.
What is the racial/ethnic make-up of the Episcopal Church? The United Church of Christ? The Lutheran Church? Reform Judaism? What a pathetic and predictable attempt to dodge the issue.
Notice no racial slurs have been hurled at pro-gay Rev. J.R. Finney of Birmingham, AL, who is black:
http://www.queerty.com/christian-pastors-v-christian-pastors-birminghams-ex-gay-showdown-20091111/
sal(the original)
he’s a hot mess and needs a life…gays are not the enemy!its those hypocrites who attend ya church and scream AMEN but u catch their butt on any other day u know what they up to
Chris
“WOW!!!! White gay men once again lashing out at Obama. You know what you are all correct…CHANGE should come after being in office since January. As gay people, why the hell should we wait as long as black folks did to have freedom in this country. It’s 2009 and they (blacks) are still being discriminated against…we don’t want to wait. We need action NOW…forget baby steps. Now! Now! Now!”
Why does it always seem to come down to a competition between minority groups? Maybe we SHOULDN’T expect baby steps BECAUSE of the fact that many other groups went through similar discrimination. That speaks poorly of our nation, doesn’t it? It is regrettable that women and blacks waited so long for civil rights legislation. But don’t you admit that no group facing discrimination should wait as long as any previous group if we have learned our lesson? So I agree with your sarcastic statement “why the hell should we wait as long as black folks did to have freedom in this country,” but not in the ridiculous competitive sense you are trying to promote. Just in the “how the hell are we in this spot again” sense.
LOL
Reaching for a story here.
B
Bill Perdue wrote, “B Donnie McClurkin has a right to free speech…. As long as he stays away from hate speech that incites violence”
Exactly where in the article did it say one word about hate speech (e.g., something that incites violence)? You just made that one up. The fact is that there is nothing a president can do about some guy who is simply obnoxious, other than to ignore him.
It shouldn’t be necessary to spell out every “if”, “and”, or “but” to cover the obvious. Comments would look like incomprehensible legalese if everyone had to do that.
blackjack44
Before you come Donnie, look that man in the eye and tell him you dont love him.
blackjack44
“donnie Mcclurkin gets real”…gets real fuckin stupid. Im black and I hope he falls on a really sharp corner of a bible and when he kills over the book opens to Leviticus while his John calls out for help and they cant get the leather harness off before the police arrive. This is why gay black youth have a hard time coming out.
john
Sorry. Black religious “people” suck ass.
Brian NJ
You would think the black experience would have elevated most religious blacks to want to help other oppressed minorities, but no. The black experience has not elevated them spiritually. But a fundamentalist is a hate-based person, so I guess it is not a surprise, though extremely extremely disappointing. “We have ours, so who cares about you.” Totally amazing.
Bill Perdue
No. 29 • petulantly, B wonders “Exactly where in the article did it say one word about hate speech (e.g., something that incites violence)?”
Who cares if Queerty raised it first or not? Only retards and Obots want to limit discussion of hate speech because it exposes Obama and his bed political partners like Warren and McClurkin as bigots.
They’re dangerous bigots because hate speech like “gawd’s in the mix” and “feminine men, feminine boys” promote the idea that we’re less than human and not entitled to be citizens and enjoy the rights of citizenship. That’s very dangerous. It empowers hate filled thugs and in their sick mind justifies them.
Robert, NYC
Bill, #25 and #34, I totally agree with you and thank you for saying it.
Chitown Kev
Well, at least some of you are nailing it down to the churchified blacks.
I can’t stand those motherfuckers for the most part. And I’m black. (Rudy noted an exception and there are others). For one, they don’t tip worth shit…
As for Miss Donnie, methinks she had some of that really rough sex that she apparently loves!
DD
WOW!!!above aomments show that the devil is getting a powefull beating!!young people are coming to Jesus Christ,eyes are opened and satan is disappointed.Preach McClurkin Preach!!! Satan will regret the day he sent his ‘same sex demons’ to bind God’s precious people!!!
sal(the original)
all these fools pullin out the racist card take ya crap somewhere else honey , you ARE talkin to some black people here.it aint gonna work here!!and to my christian friend dd,gurlllll you so fabulous i wanna spend all eternity with a “better than thou”hypocrite person like you really!!!i dooo!!!!heaven will be filled with you sunday christian who on monday gossip and have premarital sex(thats one of the reasons why there are sooo many of my sisters who are single mamas)and spend govenment money on fancyyyy clothers to impress at church!hallelujah!!!!!
sal(the original)
…hello black community we should be the last to condemn anyone!!!look at all those gangsta wanna be who think its cool to drop out of school and prison is cool!!look at all those little hoochie mammas who think shakin ya butt is a way to a “mans”(boys really) heart and givin it up with no flipin protection is cool…..honey gays are not ya problem,trust me we have a whole lotta mess to fix in the black community b4 we hate on anyone else!!!thank u
sal(the original)
black church is a joke!!its a show where people dress up put on the mask and entertain the people around em!!hell if black church was serious the black community would be in a way better place
de-fel
100,000 years and this what we have to show for ourselves?
B
Bill Perdue, trying to get out of an untenable position, wrote “No. 29 • petulantly, B wonders ‘Exactly where in the article did it say one word about hate speech (e.g., something that incites violence)?’ Who cares if Queerty raised it first or not? Only retards and Obots want to limit discussion of hate speech because it exposes Obama and his bed political partners like Warren and McClurkin as bigots.”
Talk about conspiracy theories!
What Bill Perdue is missing should be obvious to everyone – there were simply no claim whatsoever about hate speech in what was reported about Donnie McClurkin, nor was there any hate speech in the video (he merely listed homosexuality as one of the reasons to “repent”, one item in a long list of “sinful” behavior). Perdue then tried to throw some imaginary hate speech into the discussion, I presume because he didn’t like First Amendment rights to free speech and religious freedom being mentioned without it being buried in a list of caveats about issues not relevant to the discussion.
If you don’t like McClurkin, don’t go. I thought he sounded really tiresome in the video. You’d have to pay me a lot to sit through a full-length session with that loudmouth but that assessment is simply me playing “theater critic”, and even a failed author has a right to put out his non-selling book for public consumption.
Bill Perdue
B, a paid apologist for bigots like Obama, Warren and McClurkin denies the direct link between bigoted hate speech and the hate crimes it causes. The hate speech of sick cultists like McClurkin also creates a climate of intense fear and despair among LGBT youth varying from self-loathing to substance abuse and suicide. It leads to their being kidnapping and interned in camps where christer thugs attempt to ‘cure’ their genetic heritage with devastating results. Many LGBT young people are driven out of their homes or tossed into the streets by bigoted parents based on the hate speech of scum like McClurkin and Warren.
There’s no excuse for hate speech or for those who attempt to say that it’s “tiresome” instead of dangerous. Bigots and those who apologize for them are enemies of GLBT equality.
– – –
On another subject why do right wingers want to distort discussions about the origins of bigotry by limiting criticism to African American cults and ignoring the big guns of bigotry, Euroamerican cults and the leaders of the Democrats and Republicans who cater to them and provide them with federal bribes.
The obvious and only reason is that people who want to distort the discussion by zeroing in on black cults are racists trying to mask their repulsive hatred of African Americans. Their comments are meant to create hostility and increase divisions in the LGBT communities. They’re doing the work of the bigots who want us divided and all the weaker for it. They may deny it but their sick motives are as clear as day.
TP
Tabloid journalism at it’s finest! We want alien babies, and wolf men attacking good gays for no other reason than homophobia. Queerty is the best because you slip in plain view, to great comic effect. Keep it up Queerty, maybe we’ll start a race riot on Fire Island!
Tackel
@ 27 ATTMAY:
No ones dodging any issue. Your last statment about Rev. J.R.Finny not having racial slurs hurled at him. Well, like you said, he’s “pro” gay. Does that mean because racial lurs are not hurled at him,there is no racisim in the gay community??
I bet this same Rev.Finney will not get any praise or recognition from the bigiots within the “gay” community for the work that he’s done on behalf of the gay community.
Your question reguarding the racial/ethnic make-up of the institutions you listed, Why don’t you tell us?? The ones I listed, made it loud and clear the amout that was donated by them in the passage of prop 8. I mentioned the predominantly white institutions because “many” gay whites want to believe that homophobia within the church is exclusively a black thing.
Not realizing that the predominantly white institutions do the gay community far more damage. They have deeper pockets,political affiliations on BOTH sides going far back and tentacles that stretch into “every” branch of government.
As Bill Perdue @26 & 45 so eloquently put, the black church is small potatos. They’re viewed as a side show by the powers that be.
Robert, NYC
Actually, it was the Mormon sect that donated the most to Prop. H8, more than $20 million, and overwhelmingly white as were the majority who voted for discrimination and hate. Ditto in Maine!
Brian NJ
@TP
“Tabloid journalism at it’s finest! “We want alien babies, and wolf men attacking good gays for no other reason than homophobia.”
Yea Queerty! Just take a visit to the HRC factory in Stepford, USA, and the world will be sunny and happy! Here are some new posts for you after you are reprogrammed: http://www.Sunny-Queerty-dee.com: “Obama is working hard for our rights!” “Blacks all want to see civil rights for others!” “Carrie Prejean is a beauty, inside and out!”
Keep it up Queetry, I can see a few sparks coming out of the bot’s eyeballs, and it is beautiful.
Joe Mustich, Justice of the Peace
As Malcolm X once said, and I paraphrase here, snakes come in many colors….
Cheers, Joe Mustich, Justice of the Peace,
Washington, Connecticut, USA.
Tackle
@48 Robert, NYC
Thanks for that onfo: I knew it was in the millions, but i had no idea it was that much! And thanks for reminder about Maine.
DD
To:SAL(THE ORIGINAL)No.40…..you really sound like a nice person deep down inside and understand the purpose of the church.I hope your life will be filled with blessings,joy,laughter and love.And i pray that all the good desires and dreams for you and your family will be fullfilled. I wish you good health and peace.May God keep you,protect you and provide all you needs….all the days of your life.
Robert, NYC
@51 Tackle, you’re very welcome!
StoiKOne
The better question is: Why is the title of this calling Obama’s name? What does Obama have to do with this obviously self-hating, tormented (“ex-“) homosexual? It is Donnie McClurken with the amped up and vamped up anti-gay rhetoric. Donnie. One man. Who happens to be Black (and gay!).
Secondly: It is obvious from some of the comments on this site that racism is secondary to homophobia. To gay whites it is okay to be racists in the name of gay rights. Why, for instance, do “Black religious people suck ass”? My question is: If the Black ones suck ass, as “John” disgustedly asserts, what are the white ones busy sucking? ALL so-called “religious” types have odious members in their ranks!
StoiKOne
And yet I am thankful for message boards like these. Gay whites can see a fundamental reason why (I think) gay rights are dismissed or are not taken seriously: the moral legs it hopes to stand on are crippled by it’s own racist limitations. Of course many–if not most–gay whites do not see their own form of racism and racial-phobias.
It is interesting that as gay whites relish and rely heavily on the hard-won strides and successes of the civil rights movement of African-Americans in the United States, they want to dismiss and sacrifice African-Americans in the name of “their” cause (and gay whites, in general, view gay rights as theirs). A cause being advanced BY an AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN (Barrack Obama) as it never has in the history of 43 white presidents! Amazing!
Romie
Donnie is perfectly right, homosexuality is a nasty, vile and disgustion thing. believe it or not, God is real and got hates it. Thank God that Donnie was able to make the choice of becoming strait. It would be a good idea for all gays to do the same. As for all those who would dare to say that the church is a joke, be carefull how you talk about the people of God. I implore you to truly repent and be baptised, and recieve the Holy Spirit.
B
In No. 45, Bill Perdue, making a liar of himself once again, wrote, “B, a paid apologist for bigots like Obama, Warren and McClurkin denies the direct link between bigoted hate speech and the hate crimes it causes.”
Bill Perdue’s lies about “paid” and everything else are the result of him not having a leg to stand on and not having the integrity to admit it.
The facts – there was no “hate speech” in any of the three videos QUEERTY provided, nor was any claimed in the text. That not “apologizing” for someone, merely stating the truth. It was “fire and brimstone” and “repent before you go to Hell”, not hate speech. He thought homosexual activity was sinful, but computers seemed to get about as much notice. He didn’t want gays beaten, but rather wanted them to repent (and I’d imagine to put a little money in the collection box). He railed on about oral sex but it included heterosexuals, with him saying that they didn’t keep their “virginity” if they did that.
Perdue’s lies about being an “apologist” are comical given that I had written: “I thought [McClurkin] sounded really tiresome in the video. You’d have to pay me a lot to sit through a full-length session with that loudmouth but that assessment is simply me playing “theater critic”, and even a failed author has a right to put out his non-selling book for public consumption.”
Earth to Perdue – grow up and try to act like an adult – it might be a new experience for you.
DD
Romie you are right!!! The Gospel of Jesus Christ will be preached throughout the earth whether we like it or not,people will know the truth and The thruth will set them free.Billions will be born again ,and satan and his demons will be thrown into the lake of fire!
B
No. 56 · Romie: “Donnie is perfectly right, homosexuality is a nasty, vile and disgustion thing. believe it or not, God is real and got hates it.” Actually, if I didn’t know that Donnie was doing an act – that sort of “religion” is just entertainment – I’d suggest he see a doctor and get some meds! 🙂
BTW, most distant point in the universe that we could possibly see from earth is around 10 to the 26 meters away from us. Any “God” that looks after anything that big would be as likely to be monitoring us as we would monitor something that is way smaller than the nucleus of an atom.
Robert, NYC
Romie and DD, two shining examples of a devolved species who were clearly accidents of birth. There is no overwhelming proof that your sky pixie hated gays. Odd, your other sky pilot Jesus Christ never uttered one word about us, let alone hate or judge us. You’re not even “christians” because you don’t practice what “it” preached. For morons like you two who believe in scripture, in things such as the killing of women for adultery and the killing of children for insubordination, among other things, this only proves how retarded you both are. You can’t cherry pick this or that to use against us while ignoring the rest of the psycho talk in that book of fairy tales that is only fit for wiping one’s ass with.
DD
God bless you Robert,NYC.may the Lord keep you and give you peace whether you believe in Him or not.Be prosperous in all the good things that you do.May your heart be filled joy & Godly love all the days of your life.I speak increase of wealth in all areas of your life and good health!!!! I declare that the Word of God will remove all your chilhood hurts, pain;all those you love will experience the love of God through you!!!
Bill Perdue
B is in denial.
B
Bill Perdue wrote, “B is in denial.” This is a classic case
of “projection” on Bill Perdue’s part.
BTW, regarding DD’s religious babbling, check out
http://www.depts.drew.edu/jhc/fowler.html for a discussion of remnants of early Christian writings that got expunged when the Romans made Christianity the state religion. It includes a story about Jesus spending the night with a “youth” who showed up wearing a cloth but who was otherwise naked. From the URL for part of the explanation:
“Christian Gnostics believed that Jesus had imparted a spiritual knowledge based on the belief that their souls are divine and, thereby, alien from the material world which is regarded as evil in origin. Gnostics differed among themselves as to whether they ought to practice extreme asceticism or libertine abandon in response to this knowledge. Some, like the Carpocratians, were reputed to believe that Jesus engaged in sexual practices. Indeed, Clement’s letter accuses them of importing this view into their version of Secret Mark. It is to counter what he describes as the ‘utterly shameless lies’ of this sect that Clement quotes from his own copy of Secret Mark.”
They were arguing among themselves, with some engaging in odd practices that required “ritual nudity”. Draw your own conclusions. 🙂
Bill Perdue
B denies being in denial. Classic.
t
mshiniwam mshiniwam,au let’mshiwam aaullet’mshiniwam!!!!
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Bill Perdue lies some more by writing “B denies being in denial.”
For some reason, this character always acts out when the facts are pointed out to him.
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Hi,
It were really awesome videos i really like it i need more like this so whenever you free share some more..
Michael
You all need prayer…homosexuality is wrong and even is it was right or could be right its still wouldnt work cuz only 5% of gay get married so ………………..wateva Donnie a man oh God And the bible say that “they would not retain the word of God in their hearts”….deliverence is real you gotta want to be delivered completly!!!!!!!!!
Truth B. Told
@Michael: No, it’s simply a matter of mathematics.
1 Donnie + 1 Michael = 2 Morons + Future Generations of More Enlightened Americans – Bible Bigots = Good Times!