The popular animated series Big Mouth has sparked controversy over its definitions of bisexuality and pansexuality.
The show attempted to introduce an LGBTQ character named Ali (played by Ali Wong) by having her label herself as pansexual. As part of her introduction, she explained to her classmates the difference between bisexuality and pansexuality.
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“It’s like, some of you borings like tacos, and some of you like burritos,” Ali said. “And if you’re bisexual, you like tacos and burritos. But I’m saying I like tacos and burritos, and I could be into a taco that was born a burrito, or a burrito that is transitioning into a taco. And honey, anything else on the f*cking menu.”
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Viewer outrage on social media prompted one of the creators of the show, Andrew Goldberg, to issue an apology via Twitter. “We missed the mark here with this definition of bisexuality vs. pansexuality,” Goldberg lamented. “My fellow creators and I sincerely apologize for making people feel misrepresented.” He went on to say “Thank you to the trans, pan and bi communities for further opening our eyes to see these important and complicated issues of representation.”
Big Mouth streams on Netflix.
Cam
Same old Hollywood stuff. They never want to have a character be Lesbian, Gay, Trans, and now apparently Bi.
Pan is an easy out for them, because they’ll just have her end up dating a guy, I hope I”m wrong, but falling back on a “Traditional looking” relationship is usually the way these end up. Just like previously Hollywood would claim to be inclusive by having a hot woman declare she was bisexual, have her kiss a woman a few times, before ending up dating a guy.
Here’s an idea ,have a few LGBTQ characters in the show instead of doing a “Very Special Episode” once every 5 seasons, then never seeing that character again. They’ve been pulling that move for ages now.
thisisnotreal
Cam do you even realize how trite your arguments are on this site? Seriously how old are you buddy? “ Just like previously Hollywood would claim to be inclusive by having a hot woman declare she was bisexual, have her kiss a woman a few times, before ending up dating a guy.” because in cam world apparently a woman cant POSSIBLY be genuinely bisexual unless she’s either spending her entire life jumping back and forth between men and women just to remind people she’s still bisexual, or she ends up marrying a woman. News flash little boy cam, a bisexual is STILL a bisexual even if they end up marrying someone of the opposite gender after making out with a few people of the same gender. Seriously do you even think about your arguments before you blurt out your verbal diarrhea? And as for having a few lgbt characters in the show, call me crazy but I have this wild idea try and follow me for a moment… it goes a little something like this “not every piece of media in existence needs to be inclusive to every marginalized group as if its marking off some invisible checklist of inclusivity” mind blowing concept right cammy boy?
Cam
@thisisnotreal
So you stopped defending right wing bigots on the other thread to come over here.
Sweetie, I get that you’re a right wing troll and you’re apparently obsessed with me, but trying to misread a comment so you can then fake outrage barely works when Tucker Carlson does it and not at all when you try it.
You’ll have to point out where I said bisexuality wasn’t real. I know that the right wing has seen those discussions on here and thinks you can use it to trigger, but it was a sad try.
What I actually pointed out was how Hollywood claims a character is LGBT and then has the character end up in a heterosexual relationship. In the past this was accomplished by catering to straight male fantasy by having the hot woman, kiss a girl once or twice, but then swoon over the big powerful man that she just couldn’t resist.
But then again, you already knew what I said. Please try going back to your other screename, you’ve used this one twice in the last hour.
rvrood
Actually, in the show there is already a male gay character (which is present in the most of the episodes) and a bi one (which is one of the main characters, who really looks like a boy without a clear preference between males and females). The show is smart, I really think they mean it when they apologise for misinterpretation of pansexuality.
DarkZephyr
With all due respect Cam, Bigmouth does have a gay male character (Matthew, who shares Maury the Hormone Monster with heterosexual Andrew), a bisexual male character (Jay, who’s bisexuality was a large aspect of seasons 2 and 3), and a lesbian character (Jessi’s Mom, Shannon). This pansexual character is a recent addition to those. They fudged it a little, but I don’t believe their intentions were bad at all.
Cam
@DarkZephyr
Thank you, good to know!
greybat
I remember thinking the Line would have been funnier (and less exhausting) if Ali had simply said, “I like tacos and burritos, and tostadas, and chimichangas and anything else you got on the menu.”
A little more descriptive of how some Pansexuals might view the World.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
“Pansexual” Am I to expect an omelet whilst doing the deed?
JarodD
This “outrage” is so dumb. The definitions used by the show are the most functional definitions for most people and the writers were right to use them. The vague and non-specific definitions being pushed by the offended parties do little to help anyone who is bi or pan.
Jon in Canada
Just when you think the cancel culture/woke police can’t be more trite about meaningless things to bitch about, they come along and prove they most certainly can.
JPDonahue
Considering the kids on the show are pre-teens…
And… so many things on the show are not quite right… because… they are not that smart yet… pre-teens.
It’s not hate speech by a long shot.
No apology needed. It’s comedy. It’s silly comedy about puberty.
richard 14
I am so over labels as used by women.
jjose712
Sorry, but i don’t understand the outrage in this case at all