His daughters. Snooki. His iPod playlist. Job losses. Economic recovery. Lots of things were discussed on The View today, but nobody brought up the president’s insistence on marriage inequality and his stalled effort to repeal Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. Which, hey, that’s fine. Nobody thought the first View interview with a sitting president was going to have much substance. Including Rosie O’Donnell. Even Sherri Shepherd didn’t manage to embarrass herself, and really, isn’t that the ultimate win?
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B
Regarding QUEERTY’s comment that “nobody brought up the president’s insistence on marriage inequality,” maybe nobody brought it up because President Obama is opposed to DOMA ( http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/08/17/obama_makes_explicit_his_objec.html if someone needs a citation).
Then there’s Maggie Gallagher’s rant in the National Review, which you can read at http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2JlYzNmZTI0M2EyOWYzZjk5NTU4YjVjNjEzYWQ4YmY= — it seems that Maggie thinks the Obama administration’s Department of Justice is trying to sabotage the defense of DOMA.
It sounds to me like, no matter what he does, someone will blame him, possibly both sides at once with each claiming he is doing the opposite.
CJ
Wow, Obama is really opening himself up to some tough questioning. First, MSNBC, now The View. Next stop it will be David Letterman or Jay Leno.
How about hearing 2 or 3 questions (not just one) on DADT? Or, maybe a few questions about ENDA?
CJ
B, I see what you’re saying. But, Obama can claim that he favors repeal of DOMA, just as he can claim that he’s a fierce advocate for LGBT equality. But, what is he doing about it? Obama is defending DOMA and DADT vs. fighting for legislative changes and repeals. If a president really believes in something, he’ll push to have the laws changed. Obama is stalling, defending and only making minor administrative changes.
Obama has made it clear that he does not favor marriage equality. That should be a clear indication of his views of the LGBT community and how hard he’ll work for equality.
In regards to Maggie Gallagher, anyone can say anything in order to deflect from reality. She just doesn’t want to admit reality.
GetCRAZY and Vote Republican
The President just laughs at GetCRAZY. I wish Democrats would acknowledge their childish pranks, because that only helps Republicans. Everybody knows we need more Republicans.
Next GetCRAZY is going to attack Jews so that we get more Christians. They finally slapped that bitch Lady Gaga. I think they are planning on heckling Ellen next week.
GetCRAZY is brilliant.
B
No. 3 · CJ wrote, “B, I see what you’re saying. But, Obama can claim that he favors repeal of DOMA, just as he can claim that he’s a fierce advocate for LGBT equality.” Well, hopefully there will be a definitive test fairly soon – once a repeal gets through the House and Senate, we’ll see if Obama signs it.
If he doesn’t sign it (a simple bill repealing DOMA, not one with “rider” amendment that deserves a veto), that would constitute proof that he didn’t really want a repeal. Why not withhold judgment for a while – until we have that data?
While Obama stated that he is not personally comfortable with same-sex marriages, he also opposed Proposition Eight, calling it divisive. Given his background in law, he should be well aware of the difference between personal opinion or feelings (which in his case might have reflected what some voters wanted) and what the law should be. It was actually a useful message, although the “No on Eight” side didn’t exploit it – just because you feel uncomfortable about something doesn’t mean that something should be illegal.
Paid Activism
Of course the President didn’t notice childish “Activists” – nobody did. Grow up, it’s 2010. Being a nuisance or marching around with goofy signs is ineffective. There is no reason for some of us to act like NOM or Westboro.
It’s also embarrassing.
Enron
He really is under stress, look at the amount of white hair. Unless no Just for Men is available in Washington.
Bill Perdue
@B: Obama’s oppositon to DOMA is as fake as his DADT compromise and as real as his fear of spearheading the passage of ENDA.
Just another tawdry example of ‘Fierce Defenders’ usual lies. What do you expect from Rick Warrens bbf.
“I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now for me as a Christian, it’s also a sacred union, God’s in the mix.” This is Obama’s real opinion and it was followed by huge waves of applause at Rick Warren’s bigotfest just before the 2008 election, although people who saw it say he got a cooler reception when he repeated his ugly bigotry on MTV.
[img]http://www.ebar.com/images/articles/ONLINE_Obama_Prop8_4408.jpg[/img] ebar
Obama, who used to support same sex marraige until he figured out he needed bigot votes to get ahead now flaunts his bigotry and superstition every chance he gets. I suppose I’d start to worry if he said things like:
“`What role does faith play?’ I say, `It plays every role.'”
“I just want all of you to pray that I can be an instrument of God….”
“I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”
And most revealing of all: “My job is to try to draw a connection between the values that I express to the church and the challenges and issues that we face in politics.” He does that with a vengeance.
Quotes thanks to correntewire.
Obama sabotaged our chances to retain same sex marriage in California.
reason
I think the important questions were asked. The biggest challenges this country faces is our economy and wars. If the former is not corrected this country will rip itself to shreds from the seams and if the latter is not performed correctly we face more attacks from our enemies and the loss of life of some of our most loyal citizens. Those are the type of issues on the forefront of peoples minds. If you go to Washington there are hundreds of groups protesting all wanting different things, with all the major things such as education and infrastructure I think this community should be pleased not satiated with how much attention this administration has given us. The goal is full equality and we should strive for that but we shouldn’t let that blind us from the truth that this is the most supportive and active administration on GBLT equality that has ever been in office. That is something that no one can deny regardless of where they land on the political spectrum.
B
No. 8 · Bill Perdue wrote, “@B: Obama’s oppositon to DOMA is as fake as his DADT compromise and as real as his fear of spearheading the passage of ENDA.”
Unsubstantiated conjecture on your part. As I said, we’ll find out if/when Congress passes legislation repealing DOMA and/or DADT,
or when Congress passes ENDA. Obama is the president, not a dictator – he can’t force Congress to pass anything. He can ask, but we are better off if he asks privately – your representatives are more likely to bump the priority up if they are the ones getting a lot of the credit.
It really doesn’t hurt to wait before criticizing him – its not like there’s a presidential election coming up in November.
Bill Perdue
@B: ‘B’ Quit dissembling. Wake up and smell the bigotry, bigot pandering and superstition. Obama is a functional bigot with a proven record of enmity towards LGBT communities.
After Obama’s long and proven record of as an enemy of the LGBT communities, beginning with his sabotage of same sex marriage in California it’s untrue to say, as ‘B’ does that “It really doesn’t hurt to wait before criticizing him…” It does great harm to excuse our enemies and to be silent in the face of the odious bigotry if Obama and their brother-cousins the Republicans.
“To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.” Abraham Lincoln
“When an individual is protesting society’s refusal to acknowledge his dignity as a human being, his very act of protest confers dignity on him.” Bayard Rustin
Vote against the Democrats on Tuesday, November 2nd. Or just don’t vote.
Vote against the Republicans on Tuesday, November 2nd. Or just don’t vote.
B
No. 11 · Bill Perdue wrote, “@B: ‘B’ Quit dissembling.” Perdue, take your own #*$#*$& advise and stop accusing others of your own behavior. You’ve put out a series of unsubstantiated statements about Obama, some obviously false and others mere opinion. Obama as a candidate did not “sabotage” same-sex marriage in California – he called Proposition Eight “divisive” after stating that personally he thought marriage should be between a man and a women, thus recommending voting against it regardless of personal feelings about marriage. Other than that single statement, he stayed out of it – obviously with a financial meltdown in progress, it would have been a poor tactic to make his presidential campaign a national referendum on same-sex marriage when the Republicans were positioned to take the blame for the economy.
Bill Perdue
@B: Jeepers, ‘B’ don’t with the start whining again.
Please, tell us how is this unsubstantiated; I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now for me as a Christian, it’s also a sacred union, God’s in the mix.” And remeber, no dissembling.
That statement by Obama wrecked same sex marraige in California. It was broadcast and disseminated on national media and cost us the election. He repeated it on MTV. He’s a functional bigot and an enemy of GLBT folks. None of your excuses or leagel eagle wheedling can erase the truth. It’s overwhelming.
His ‘recommendation’ to vote against 8 for tacitical reasons, because DOMA was already on the books came in a letter sent to a breakfast meeting of Demobots and Democrats in SF and it had minimal impact on the election. The proof; we lost unexpectedly and unnecessarily after leading in the Field Poll all summer.
My advice to you is to seriously consider the words of Lincoln and Rustin above and these words:
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!” Sam Adams, City of Boston, August 1st, 1776
B
In No. 13 · Bill Perdue repeated his lies about “dissembling” because he doesn’t like the truth. Aside from that, he asks, “Please, tell us how is this unsubstantiated; I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now for me as a Christian, it’s also a sacred union, God’s in the mix.”
Simple – just look at http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/16/warren.forum/ about an event both Obama and McCain attended, in which both were interviewed for an hour by Rick Warren: “Warren pressed Obama on two hot-button issues among social conservatives: abortion and same-sex marriage.” (Note the word “pressed” – Obama was not trying to make this the topic of discussion.) Continuing, “When asked to define marriage, he told Warren, ‘It’s a union between a man and a woman.’ ‘For me as a Christian, it is a sacred union. God’s in the mix,’ he said. Obama added that he does support same-sex civil unions, saying, ‘I can afford those civil rights to others even if I don’t have … that view.'” It’s wishy-washy, but he was clearly indicating that his alleged personal views (possibly what his audience wanted to hear) are not excuses for legislation.
Meanwhile, according to http://www.wilshireandwashington.com/2008/11/obama-and-propo.html Obama, in a letter to the San Francisco’s Alice B. Toklas Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Democratic Club, Obama opposed Proposition Eight, calling it a “the divisive and discriminatory efforts to amend the California constitution” and also opposed similar attempts at discrimination in other states. Also, on MTV (national audience), when asked about Proposition Eight, Obama said, “I think it’s unnecessary. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage. But when you start playing around with constitutions, just to prohibit somebody who cares about another person, it just seems to me that’s not what America’s about. Usually, our constitutions expand liberties, they don’t contract them.”
And as some advise to Bill Perdue, he should stop dissembling – it is what he does. The truth is simply that Obama was basically silent on Proposition Eight, opposing it but also indicating personal discomfort with same-sex marriage. But he also clearly stated that personal opinion or personal religious belief is not the basis for what goes in a constitution. As he said, “our constitutions expand liberties, they don’t contract them.”
Obama most likely didn’t want to talk about same-sex marriage at all during the campaign – there was an economic meltdown sitting there ready to be hung around the necks of Republicans and the last thing he would have wanted to do was to provide the Republicans with a diversion. If he didn’t want to talk about it, he sure as hell would not go around trying to sabotage the campaign against Proposition Eight – that would have been counterproductive given his highest priority at the time – getting elected.
adman
@B: F U and your “bi-partisan strategy is all” bullshit. You ARE dissembling, while you advocate a politics for all of us that undermines any coalition we may gather politically. Keep waiting for straight pols to tell you what to think about the fact that as a faggot you have nothing going forward in one hand. And while you’re doing that, shit in the other hand and tell us which fills up first..Fucking Blue Dogs like you have ruined the next 20 years for Americans like you’ve ruined the last 30, thanks to idiots like you America has nothing going forward, forever, when it comes to the well being of her people.
I hope you end up working for some born-again scumbag who really enjoys degrading you in your cozy “corporate environment” until you snap one day. Fucking middle brow faggot lick spittle. Go suck conservative daddy dick while he calls you his bitch and goes home to the wife and kids, fucktard.
reason
@adman: From what I’ve seen on the site B is not a Blue Dog he is to the left of that, Bill is to the left of the Democratic Party, and I am to the center-right on some issues and somewhere on the left spectrum on most. I believe in realism, deal making, and getting results even if things aren’t just like I want them. The Blue Dogs are part of the Democratic coalition, nothing would be able to get done if they were not around right now. Face it a run of the mill democrat wouldn’t be able to get elected to a blue dog seat, it is hard for a blue dog to get elected to a blue dog seat, we live in a center-right country and that is the reality. The blue dogs come kicking and screaming, but they come. The GOP doesn’t move a muscle, the country is on fire the GOP rather let it burn if it will get them into power even though their holding nearly the other half of the water to put the fire out. Politics has always been about negotiation, it is as true as our democracy. The problem of the last decade or so is things have gotten so ugly with personal hatred ginned up by the Limbaugh’s and the Maddow’s of the world that negotiation and common scene have been spurned. Now to get the simplest thing through congress like approving a mid level appointee has become nearly impossible. The same incivility that you are showing in your post is what is destroying our country. If you can’t be civil in a disagreement than there will be no negotiated solution and you will be stuck in a brainless endless war like Israel and Palestine were everyone loses badly. It is time to face reality we live in a democracy and the majority rules, the democrats are just trying to navigate the best they can in GOP favoring waters, which requires negotiation. If you want a different result you have to change America then you will change the politicians.
sebastian
He’s graying at an awfully fast rate. Must be the guilt from all the lies he’s told, especially to us.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, really, stop being such a crybaby. If you want to be a lawyer for rightwing religious enenies of the GLBT movement, expect to be criticized for it.
Glad to see you admit that Obama’s a bigot who panders to other bigots.
Now about this crybaby stuff, it’s not like it’s the first time you’ve run into heavy criticism from lots of people for your lies and dissembling.
Do you remember this, it’s one of the dozens of times you supported disgusting right wing scum and got called on the carpet by honest people:
Posted: May 14, 2010 at 6:50 pm • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 2 • WalkderDC
The point is, Rekers is claiming Jovani advertised as a travel companion. Yet not only has he not produced any other ad, nor the website where he found him. But Jovanni has said that he only advertised on Rentboy. B you have now been on 4 threads defending Rekers. What is your agenda?
Posted: May 15, 2010 at 10:03 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 3 • romeo
Yeah, B, I’m for freedom of speech and all, but you really need to stfu. Rekers is indefensible.
Posted: May 15, 2010 at 11:44 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 4 • schlukitz
@WalkderDC: “B you have now been on 4 threads defending Rekers. What is your agenda?”
@romeo: Yeah, B, I’m for freedom of speech and all, but you really need to stfu.
Gentlemen, B sees himself as a self-appointed moderator whose agenda is to make everyone who posts on these threads, including Queerty.com look dumb, while attempting but failing to make himself look smart, flag posters he disagrees with and trying to get folks like 1EqualityUSA and myself banned from this site.I have no doubt that B is the person responsible for every post that 1EqualityUSA and I make being moderated for the past several months now.
B apparently believes that he alone is entitled to freedom of speech but that is all other posters on this site that should stfu. For that reason both 1EqualityUSA and I rarely post on Queerty anymore.
B takes all the fun out of it.
Posted: May 15, 2010 at 11:49 pm • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 6 • Bill Perdue
If it’s rightwing, if it defends bigotry and religion, if it denigrates the LGBT communities – then B is for it.
Posted: May 16, 2010 at 12:45 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 8 • Bill Perdue
@B: There are dozens of us who say the same thing and we’re pleased not to have your respect. If you liked us it’d be very damaging to our reputations.
Posted: May 16, 2010 at 12:52 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 10 • Bill Perdue
@B: It’s simply an accurate description. If you see it as damaging then the solution is to modify your behavior. I suspect you can’t so people will continue to oppose you. Deal with it and stop trying to cut off discussion with lies about our motives.
Posted: May 16, 2010 at 1:18 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 12 • Bill Perdue
@B: Oh, now I’ve gone and upset you. Awful me. Get used to it. As ye sow so shall you reap.
Posted: May 16, 2010 at 3:05 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 14 • WalkderDC
No B You aren’t Just trying for accuracy. What you are doing is inventing scenarios to pretend that he isn’t lying. First you attack the reporters for not contacting him, then when it was pointed out to you in another post that he was contacted you immediately scramble and say “But maybe he didn’t understand what they were talking about!” So you are desperately trying to find any reason as to why he is somehow the victim here, and I am curious as to why.
Posted: May 16, 2010 at 10:47 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 17 • Bill Perdue
@schlukitz: Glad to see you comment got uncensored. ‘B’, pro bono lawyer for racism and any self loathing scum that comes down the pike must not like you much.
Posted: Jun 15, 2010 at 7:00 am • @Reply • [Flag?] No. 19 • schlukitz
@Bill Perdue:
Truth be known, I never got the impression that ‘B’had any special love for me (or anyone else on these threads, for that matter), from day one. And that’s what I get for having the unmitigated gall to disagree with “B’. Who do I think I am? ;P What I find particularly noteworthy, Bill, is the fact that ‘B’ has never once denied that he might have had anything to do with getting OneEquality1 and my comments moderated on this forum”.
http://www.queerty.com/george-alan-rekers-was-ready-to-give-jo-vanni-roman-5-stars-on-yelp-20100514/
Ryan
Hilarious, B. Obama is against DOMA and for EDNA in name only. He knows he would have to spend too much capital to get those things accomplished. Even DADT would’ve been a lost cause had Obama gotten his way, and the vote to repeal had been held over until next year. Next year, Congress will be a lot redder, and there’s no chance DADT will be repealed then. Our only hope was a vote this year, which was against Obama’s wishes. I’m sure he truly believes DADT and DOMA are wrong, but he’s not the least bit inclined to do anything about it. You pretending to believe that Congress is going to magically pass EDNA or repeal DOMA by the end of Obama’s term is laughable. Our only chance was in the first two years, and that chance is gone now.
Code Pink
It’s OBVIOUS that B & Bill Perdue are the same person. Being each others alter ego. Go back to different topics and you will see that when one shows up the other follows like clock work. Hijacking the threads by going BACK and FORTH like two silly school yard kids screaming for attention. What a strange bi-polar disorder.
Bill Perdue
@Code Pink: The only thing that’s obvious, pinkie, is that you’re an idiot.
B
No. 15 · adman wrote, “@B: F U and your “bi-partisan strategy is all” bullshit. You ARE dissembling, while you advocate a politics for all of us that undermines any coalition we may gather politically.” Dude, you are an idiot – I didn’t advocate any strategy at all on this thread and did not “dissemble” one bit – that word is not a synonym for facts that you personally wish were different. Looks to me like you are one of those people who think they can improve a situation by shooting the messenger.
What I did was to describe what Obama was most likely doing during a presidential campaign – trying to win. He had every reason (given a goal of winning an election) to minimize a discussion of same-sex marriage: if he made a big deal of opposing it, he’d piss off people on the left but would get hardly any votes from the extreme right-wing. If he made a big deal in supporting same-sex marriages, he wouldn’t get many additional votes on the left (he was the obvious choice given the alternative) but he’d piss off the right-wing to the point that they might come out in larger numbers to vote against him. Plus an argument about it would allow the Republicans to talk about something other than the thing they most wanted to avoid – the economic meltdown, which is what most voters were concerned with.
B
In No. 18 · Bill Perdue lied some more following the same pattern that he showed in many of his comments following http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-315566 (the full list is 20, 22, 24, 26, 29, 31, 34, 37, 39, 42, 44, 46, 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62, 64, 66, 68, 70, 72, 74, 76, 78, 80, 82, 83, 85, 87, 89, 91, 93, 95, 97, 99, 101, 103, 105, 108, 110, 112,and 114 so far).
He has a vendetta and is cyberstalking, as his large number of gratuitous personal attacks show.
B
No. 19 · Ryan wrote, “Hilarious, B. Obama is against DOMA and for EDNA in name only. He knows he would have to spend too much capital to get those things accomplished. … You pretending to believe that Congress is going to magically pass EDNA or repeal DOMA by the end of Obama’s term is laughable. Our only chance was in the first two years, and that chance is gone now.”
If Obama is against DOMA and for EDNA in name only as you say, then he’ll veto the bills if they ever cross his desk. What I was pointing out is that whether or not he vetoes bills repealing DOMA or passing EDNA is a good test of his intentions.
BTW, check out http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=647470 (which seems to be a conservative site) – the opposition is claiming that President Obama has made a significant effort to end DOMA.
Maybe you should be blaming congress and not the president – the major hangup is probably Senate rules that allow a minority of senators to block anything they don’t like by filibustering.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ is compounding his lies and his pathetic crybaby whining. What else is new. His myriad critics respond when he lies and the fact that there are so many responses is testimony to amount of lying he does. I can’t think of anyone except Bill O’Reilly or that tub of rancid lard Limbaugh who lies so often about so many things.
And he’s lying again about Prop 8. It was defeated by a combination of Obama’s rampant and widely broadcast bigotry – ‘gawd’s in the mix’ – at euroamerican southern baptist friendly churches and the news media and on MTV, the fatal Eurocentrism of No on 8 and the use of Obama’s bigotry by Yes on 8. That’s all proven without question by the polls.
‘B’s pretense of knowing what Obama was thinking and doing is worthy of the analytical abilities of Jerry Springer but it doesn’t hold water in the real world.
Obama was an avid supporter, not an opponent of Bush’s TARP handouts to the rich. He spent the whole weekend before it passed twisting the arms of reluctant Democrats who didn’t want to be implicated in this massive theft of tax payments of workers and consumers. The public outcry against TARP was so great that they shut down the phones and turned off the fax machines.
B
No. 25 · Bill Perdue is repeating his lies, which is apparently all he is capable of doing. The fact is that Obama stayed out of the Proposition Eight campaign – he was running for president and winning the election was his top priority, which should be obvious to anyone. Perdue is dishonestly ignoring the citations I provided in No 14: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/16/warren.forum/ (which describes interviews with Rick Warren of both Obama and McCain) and http://www.wilshireandwashington.com/2008/11/obama-and-propo.html (which includes what he actually said on MTV). Neither source agrees with Bill Perdue’s claims and as far as I’m concerned, Perdue has zero credibility.
Perdue also pretends that pointing out the obvious – that Obama was trying to win a presidential election – takes some supernatural(?) ability. Perdue is confusing an analysis based on the assumption of self-interest, with mind reading, no doubt because Perdue is not capable of any sort of analysis.
Bill Perdue
The facts are that same sex marriage was defeated by Obama’s rampant and widely broadcast bigotry – ‘gawd’s in the mix’ – at euroamerican southern baptist friendly churches, widely reported in the news media and on MTV where he said ‘I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.‘. Contributing factors were the ineptitude and eurocentrism of No on 8 and the huge media campaign by Yes on 8 that repeated Obama’s bigotry to millions. The impact of Obama’s bigotry is proven without question by the polls.
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‘B’s citation of an opinion piece by CNN is not accidental. CNN is the ‘news’ service that first lied about the African American vote on Prop 8, cooking the stats and exciting racist sentiment. They claimed, on the basis of unexamined data that 70% of African Americans voted for Prop 8. That’s a lie. ‘B’ does the same thing when he cooks the stats to excite racist animosity. Instead of looking at the overall effect of the small African American vote as part of to the total vote for Prop 8, which was 52.1% of the electorate, he wants to judge it as part of 2% of the electorate, exaggerating to promote racist divisions in our community and between communities.
Google: Facts Belie the Scapegoating of Black People for Proposition 8 by shanikka at Daily Kos Fri Nov 07, 2008
29–31 October 2008[123]
The polls show us narrowly winning as late as October.
SurveyUSA – 47% yes 50% no / 18–28 October 2008 / ±4%
The Field Poll – 44% yes 49% no / October 2008 / ±3.3%
PPIC – 44% yes 52% no / October 2008 / ±3%
Then came the media barrage by Yes on 8 highlighting Obama’s bigotry and then came the bitter, unnecessary and unexpected defeat for same sex marriage.
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The opinions of ‘B’, defender of Rekers, McCain, the scam DADT compromise, the Nazi Pope, Judas Ashburn and everything rightwing, religious and ugly are routinely criticized by dozens of commenter’s on dozens of threads.
B
In No 27, Bill Perdue lied again and made a fool of himself with yet another conspiracy theory in which he claimed, “‘B’s citation of an opinion piece by CNN is not accidental. CNN is the ‘news’ service that first lied about the African American vote on Prop 8, cooking the stats and exciting racist sentiment.”
Fact: CNN is a widely respected news service and is not “racist” and not into “exciting racist sentiment”. One exit poll (The National Election Pool [NEP] exit poll) put the Black vote at 70%. CNN may have reported that poll, but it reported it as news. At worst, CNN simply accepted the results at face value.
What happened is very simple – random or systematic errors resulted in a number that was way too high: the actual African American vote for Proposition Eight was around 58% (see http://www.ncsu.edu/stud_affairs/glbt/pdfs/Prop%208%20Report.pdf which attributes the excess 8% to frequent attendance at religious services, not to race or ethnicity). This report states:
“while African Americans did support the measure at higher rates than voters as a whole, we have strong reason to think that their support was not as high as that estimated by the National Election Pool (NEP) exit poll (70 percent). Analysis of the full range of data available persuades us that the NEP exit poll
overestimated African American support for Proposition 8 by ten percentage points or more. Furthermore, much of African Americans’ support for Proposition 8 can be explained by the fact that blacks tend to be more religious than Californians as a whole.
“• Surveys conducted just before and just after Election Day found much smaller differences in support for Proposition 8 between African Americans and voters as a whole than did the NEP exit poll. The NEP result should thus be treated as an outlier that overstates black support for Proposition 8.”
Occasionally (rarely but with nonzero probability) a poll will produce results that are off by several times the margin of error. That may have been what happened in the NEP poll. In addition, http://www.ncsu.edu/stud_affairs/glbt/pdfs/Prop%208%20Report.pdf notes that racially homogeneous precincts (it didn’t matter what race it was) tended to support Proposition Eight more than racially diverse precints. If the NEP poll used predominantly black precincts, that would create a systematic bias in the poll, one that NEP was probably not aware of.
So, Bill Perdue is staying true to form – he’s throwing out completely bogus charges of “racism” because he can’t come up with a legitimate argument. Doing that, of course, promotes hatred and animosity – just what we don’t need. Remember, racially diverse precincts tended to vote against Proposition Eight more than racially homogeneous ones. The last thing we need is for people to stay isolated in their own homogeneous communities. Throwing out bogus charges of racism simply keeps people apart, and that hurts us in the long run.
And of course, Bill Perdue repeats his lies about me – he’s hoping that repetition will make people believe it, following Goebbels example.
He’s similarly throwing out lies about Obama, who really had next to nothing to say about Proposition 8 or same-sex marriage during the campaign – he just answered some questions during interviews (saying nothing was not an option in that case) but otherwise avoided the issue – obviously he wanted to keep the discussion focused on the economy, with the Republicans obviously getting a lot of the blame for the meltdown.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ cliams that CNN is not racist. Tens of millions of immigrant and imported workers disagree.
“B” is a racist too, although very, very junior league. ‘B’ is a racist. Here’s the proof. ‘B’ says “Proposition Eight passed by 52% of the vote, and Blacks accounted for nearly 30% of that 2% margin in favor of Proposition Eight. That isn’t enough to “tip the scale”, but it is a pretty significant chunk of it.”
Instead of taking the vote of African Americans as a part of the entire 52.1% Yes on 8 vote he compared it to 2% of the entire vote. That falsely exaggerates the impact of the African American vote andthe point of that concocted exaggeration is to excite racist divisions.
Obama sabotaged our chances to save same sex marriage in California, along with the stupid eurocentrism of No on 8 and the huge media campaign by Yes on 8 that repeated Obama’s bigotry to millions. The impact of Obama’s bigotry is proven without question by the polls.
B
In No. 29 · Bill Perdue once again made a fool of himself.
First there is his idiotic claim that CNN is somehow “racist”. It isn’t, but sometimes (like the media in genera) it makes mistakes in its reporting. A few nuts will claim otherwise.
Second Perdue is repeating his lies about my comments regarding the Proposition Eight vote. What Perdue fails to acknowledge is that it the marginal vote that is important (in this case, the difference from approximately 50% for each ethnic group) because that tells you where you have to improve. Unfortunately, to explain why is too complex for many readers, but just to try to end this “discussion”, I might as well put out the details.
For purposes of discussion – i.e., to keep the mathematics simple – lets assume you have three ethnic groups, blacks, hispanics, and whites. Also assume that the cost of getting x white votes is w(x), the cost of getting y black votes is b(w), the cost of getting z hispanic votes is h(z). Furthermore assume you need N votes to win. These costs are convex functions: each additional vote in your favor within any of the three groups is harder to get than the last because stubbornness varies among individuals.
The cost of winning is f(x,y,z) = w(x) + b(y) + h(z) subject to the constraint x + y + z = N. To be effective, we have to minimize f subject to the constraint. The standard way to do that is to use Lagrange multipliers. We define
g(x,y,z,L) = f(x,y,z) + L (x + y + z – N) and find the values of x, y, z, and L that give you the minimum value. At the minimum, the partial derivatives of g with respect to x, y, z, and L will all be zero. Given the definition of f, we get
w'(x) + L = 0
b'(y) + L = 0
h'(z) + L = 0
and x + y + z – N = 0.
The constraint, which is satisfied, gives g the same value as f (with the constraint) at g’s minimum. We’ve used the standard notation that w'(x) is the derivative of w with respect to x.
The first thing you’ll note is that at the minimum cost point, w'(x), b'(y), and h'(z) must have the same value (-L), which means the marginal cost is the same for each group. The deviations in the vote around the optimal point is what is important – if those are not zero it means that you’ve used your resources suboptimally, and that can lead to a loss.
For a concrete example, suppose we have a population of 500 whites, 50 blacks, and 100 hispanics and that the cost functions
are
w(x) = 500 (x/500)(x/500) = xx/500
b(y) = 100 (y/100)(y/100) = yy/100
h(z) = 200 (z/200)(z/200) = zz/200.
These cost functions (chosen to make the example simple – the actual cost functions are more complex) make the cost a quadratic function of the fraction of each demographic group that votes against a measure multiplied by the size of that group. There are 800 voters in all, so we need 400 to win. The optimal point occurs when you convinced 250 white voters, 50 black voters, and 100 hispanic voters for a total cost of 200. If you reduce the black vote in your favor by 10 and increase the white vote in your favor by 10, your total number of votes is the same, but your cost to win goes to 201.2.
So, what you need to look at is the deviation from 50% (the optimal point in the example) in each ethnic group – that tells you where your campaign fell down. What it means regarding Proposition Eight is quite clear – more effort should have been spent on winning the African American vote – the 8% excess African American was a significant fraction of the 2% margin by which Proposition Eight won, and what that clearly indicates is that the “No on Eight” campaign did not do as well as it might have – resources were used suboptimally.
By trying to pretend that these facts are “racist”, Bill Perdue is for all intents and purposes trying to sabotage any effort to repeal Proposition Eight.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, who usually combines rightwing arrogance, logorrhea, racism and the defense of superstition now has a new tactic – he wants to drown us in bullshit.
B
No. 31 · Bill Perdue once again made a fool of himself, this time trying to disparage differential calculus as “bullshit” – techniques widely taught in colleges. What is probably going on is that the mathematics is simply beyond Perdue’s abilities. Maybe he never took the relevant courses, but that is only a reason for not knowing the material and is an unacceptable excuse for disparaging it.
Bill Perdue
More bullshit from our resident racist Bill O’Reilly wanna be, ‘B’.
B
In No 33, shameless liar Bill Perdue is continuing is Goebbels-like slander about racism. Perdue simply doesn’t like the facts as outlined in http://www.queerty.com/bothersome-gay-activists-didnt-make-obamas-worst-parts-of-presidency-list-20100729/#comment-329886 (No 30 above).
The fact is that there is an optimal number of votes to get for each ethnic/racial group. If you assume that all groups behave identically, that number is 50% (to stop an initiative) and 50% plus a single vote to pass an initiative. The deviations from that optimal value is what is important – non-zero deviations mean you are not using your resources as effectively as you could. So, assuming the optimum value is 50% for all groups, the 8 percent margin for the Black vote (58%) is important – that value should have been 0 if our side had run an optimal campaign, and that 8 percent margin accounts for 28% of the 2% margin by which Proposition Eight won. That’s also important, not to blame Blacks but as an indication of an areas where the “No on Eight” campaign fell short.
Any person who objects to this fact is in effect trying to prevent us from winning, and that is what Bill Perdue is doing.
Bill Perdue
The first political lesson is that it’s almost criminal to ignore minority in a state like California, where they’re teh majority. EQCA and HRC did exactly that.
The second political lesson is that we will never win by tying ourselves to enemies like the Democrats and their kissing cousins the Republicans. Obama sabotaged our chances to save same sex marriage in California, along with the brainless eurocentrism of No on 8 and the huge media campaign by Yes on 8 that repeated Obama’s bigotry to millions. The impact of Obama’s bigotry is proven without question by the polls. He did it by trumpet his bigoted idea that it was ok to vote against same sex marriage because ‘gawd’s in the mix’.
And the third political lesson is that we have to avoid the kind of racism displayed by ‘B’, a racist who refuses to compare the vote of African Americans as a part of the entire 52.1% Yes on 8 vote. Instead, to exaggerate its importance and provoke racist sentiments he compares it to only 2% of the entire vote.
‘B’ is a racist who pimps for Rekers, der papenfuehrer, McCain, the DADT sellout, and Ashburn. He has no redeeming qualities.
B
In No. 35 · Bill Perdue again proves himself to be a cyberstalking pathological liar with a vendetta with his bogus lies about “racism”, etc.. See No. 30 above for a detailed explanation (Perdue saw it as he commented on it and is simply ignoring the facts) – the URL is http://www.queerty.com/bothersome-gay-activists-didnt-make-obamas-worst-parts-of-presidency-list-20100729/comment-page-1/#comment-329886 .
For an example of Bill Perdue’s cyberstalking ways, look at http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-315566 (Comment No 18) with his additional “contributions” to that thread being baseless personal attacks (Comment Numbers 20, 22, 24, 26, 29, 31, 34, 37, 39, 42, 44, 46, 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62, 64, 66, 68, 70, 72, 74, 76, 78, 80, 82, 83, 85, 87, 89, 91, 93, 95, 97, 99, 101, 103, 105, 108, 110, 112,and 114 so far). Many are simply repeats or near repeats of the same garbage – a long list of misleading/false statements cut and pasted from his file.
Bill Perdue
More bullshit from our resident Bill O’Reilly wanna be, ‘B’ who pimps for Rekers, der papenfuehrer, McCain, the DADT sellout, and Ashburn.
He has no redeeming qualities.
B
In No. 37 · Bill Perdue is continuing his Goebbels imitation by repeating his idiotic lies.
Bill Perdue
More venom from our resident Bill O’Reilly wannabe, ‘B’ who pimps for Rekers, der papenfuehrer, McCain, the DADT sellout, and Ashburn.
He has no redeeming qualities.
B
No. 39 · Bill Perdue continues his Goebbels imitation in a classic case of projection – Perdue is the guy producing all the “venom”. I’m merely pointing out that he is lying, which is a statement of fact – his “pimp” thing is a figment of his imagination. See No 36 for details about Perdue’s cyberstalking and his long-standing vendetta.
Ryan
Seriously, will you two shut the fuck up?! What is wrong with you? This is just one person, isn’t it, trying to get attention? Damn. Get a fucking life, dude.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ always loses arguements with honest activists of all stripes. Then he always whines and gets personal.
‘B’ pimps for Rekers, der papenfuehrer, McCain, the DADT sellout, and Ashburn.
He has no redeeming qualities.
@Ryan:
manage you subscriptions
Ryan
Yeah. Will do. Doesn’t make you any less of a freak, screaming at yourself on an empty thread.
B
In No. 42 · Bill Perdue tries the usual tactic of declaring victory after having made a fool of himself.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ always loses arguements with honest activists of all stripes. Then he always whines and gets personal.
‘B’ pimps for Rekers, der papenfuehrer, Mc Cain, the DADT sellout, and Ashburn.
He has no redeeming qualities.
B
In No. 45, Bill Perdue continues his cyberstalking ways, putting out more lies (he’s trying to outdo Goebbels) as he more or less repeats himself and blames others for his own churlish behavior.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ ^^^^^ always loses arguements with honest activists of all stripes. Then he always whines and gets personal.
‘B’ pimps for Rekers, der papenfuehrer, Mc Cain, the DADT sellout, and Ashburn.
He has no redeeming qualities.
B
In No. 47, Bill Perdue lies some more and even claims to be an “activist”. Another word that starts with ‘a’, as well as ones that start with ‘i’, ‘l’, and ‘m’, would provide a far more accurate description of him.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, sleazy defender of the right, religion and his own racism has no redeeming qualities. He wastes oxygen that should rightfully be reserved for real hyenas.
B
In No 49, Bill Perdue continues his lies and infantile insults, proving just what I stated in No 48.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, sleazy defender of the right, religion and his own racism has no redeeming qualities.. He wastes oxygen that should rightfully be reserved for real hyenas.
B
In No 51, Bill Perdue continues his cyberstalking by repeating his discredited infantile insults, making the description of him in No 48 all the more relevant.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, shameless lickspittle and toady for the right, religion and racism prattles on without letup.
He has no sense of shame. He’s an anbulance chaser, so that’s to be expected.
B
In No 53, as in No 51, Bill Perdue continues his cyberstalking by repeating his discredited infantile insults and lies, making the description of him in No 48 all the more relevant.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, shameless toady for the right, religion and racism prattles on without letup. Bo one listens.
B
In No 55, Bill Perdue continues his vendetta – cyberstalking by posting one lie after another, providing further evidence for the description of him in No 48.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, shameless toady for the right, religion and racism prattles on without letup. No one listens.
B
In No 57, Bill Perdue is providing still more proof of his emotional problems as he continues his cyberstalking lies.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, shameless pimp for the right, religion and racism prattles on without letup. No one listens.
B
In No. 59 cyberstalker Bill Perdue continues his lies.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, shameless pimp for like minded closeted rightwingers, religion and racism prattles on without letup. No one listens.
B
In No 61, cyberstalker Bill Perdue continues his lies.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, shameless pimp for like minded closeted right wingers, religion and racism prattles on without letup. No one listens.
B
No. 63 · Bill Perdue cyberstalker Bill Perdue continues to prove that he is a pathological liar as he continues his Goebbels imitation by trying to stay “on message”.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, pimping for like minded closeted right wingers, religion and racism prattles on without letup. No one listens.
B
In No. 65, cyberstalker Bill Perdue is continuing his infantile name calling and baldfaced lies, as he tries to stay “on message” while making a fool of himself.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, a pimp for like minded closeted right wingers, religion and racism prattles on without letup. No one listens.
B
No. 67 · Bill Perdue is continuing his infantile name calling and lies as he tries his best to use Goebbels’ big lie technique.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, a pimp for like minded closeted right wingers, religion and racism whines without letup. No one listens.
ewe
@B: Don’t defend an elected president who stands on the sidelines while we are denied equality.
B
In No 69, Bill Perdue continues the behavior outlined in No 68: his infantile name calling and lies as he tries his best to use Goebbels’ big lie technique.
BTW, Ewe (see No 70), Read No 1, which includes a citation – the record clearly shows that our president has stated that DOMA should be repealed, a fact reported in mainstream news sources ( http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/08/17/obama_makes_explicit_his_objec.html ). The president cannot, however, repeal a law – that is up to congress. None of us have any idea what the president is saying in private to individual senators and congressmen regarding DOMA – you may want him to shout at them in public, but that would probably just piss off the people who can actually get the ball rolling and just might be counterproductive.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, pigheaded defender of like minded closeted anti-GLBT scum like Rekers, Ashburn, the pope and McCain continues to whine. Nobody listens.
B
In No. 72, Bill Perdue continues his infantile vendetta as he repeats his silly lies.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, when he’s not defending rightwing scum, whines about being called on the carpet for doing just that dozens of commenter’s in well over a dozen threads.
A professional victim, he says it a vendetta. It’s not. It’s just that so many commenter’s despise his combination of backwardness, lies, disloyalty to the GLBT agenda and his relentless Rovian doublespeak.
B
In No. 74 , Bill Perdue is continuing his personal vendetta by posting one lie after another as he resorts to the “Rovian doublespeak” he pretends to condemn.
Bill Perdue
More lies from ‘B’, who, ‘B’, when he’s not defending rightwing scum, whines about being called on the carpet for doing just that dozens of commenter’s in well over a dozen threads.
A professional victim, he says it a vendetta. It’s not. It’s just that so many commenter’s despise his combination of backwardness, lies, disloyalty to the GLBT agenda and his relentless Rovian doublespeak.
For instance here “No. 2 · WalkderDC
The point is, Rekers is claiming Jovani advertised as a travel companion. Yet not only has he not produced any other ad, nor the website where he found him. But Jovanni has said that he only advertised on Rentboy.
B you have now been on 4 threads defending Rekers. What is your agenda?
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No. 3 · romeo
Yeah, B, I’m for freedom of speech and all, but you really need to stfu. Rekers is indefensible.
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No. 4 · schlukitz
@WalkderDC:
“B you have now been on 4 threads defending Rekers. What is your agenda?”
@romeo:
Yeah, B, I’m for freedom of speech and all, but you really need to stfu.
Gentlemen, B sees himself as a self-appointed moderator whose agenda is to make everyone who posts on these threads, including Queerty.com look dumb, while attempting but failing to make himself look smart, flag posters he disagrees with and trying to get folks like 1EqualityUSA and myself banned from this site.
I have no doubt that B is the person responsible for every post that 1EqualityUSA and I make being moderated for the past several months now.
I have also noticed that many of the commentators with whom we are familiar no longer post on these threads. I can readily see why.
B apparently believes that he alone is entitled to freedom of speech but that is all other posters on this site that should stfu. For that reason both 1EqualityUSA and I rarely post on Queerty anymore.
B takes all the fun out of it.
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No. 6 · Bill Perdue
If it’s rightwing, if it defends bigotry and religion, if it denigrates the LGBT communities – then B is for it.
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No. 7 · B
No. 5 · Bill Perdue lied again. I have no respect whatsoever for Bill Perdue due to his habit of lying about anyone he disagrees with. He’s really as bad as Rekers.
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No. 8 · Bill Perdue
@B: There are dozens of us who say the same thing and we’re pleased not to have your respect.
If you liked us it’d be very damaging to our reputations.
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No. 9 · B
No. 7 · Bill Perdue wrote, “There are dozens of us who say the same thing”. You are lying again. There are a handful of people who behave as you do, and you are perhaps the worst.
People can disagree, but you try to turn every disagreement into a personal attack that consists of nothing but one lie after another. Quite frankly, you need professional help. Your behavior borders on being pathological.
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No. 10 · Bill Perdue
@B: It’s simply an accurate description. If you see it as damaging then the solution is to modify your behavior.
I suspect you can’t so people will continue to oppose you. Deal with it and stop trying to cut off discussion with lies about our motives.
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No. 11 · B
In No 9 Bill Perdue lied again by saying “I’s simply an accurate description.” Trying to imitate Hilter with the “big lie”
technique? Perdue, you really are slime.
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No. 12 · Bill Perdue
@B: Oh, now I’ve gone and upset you. Awful me.
Get used to it.
As ye sow so shall you reap.
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No. 14 · WalkderDC
No B
You aren’t Just trying for accuracy. What you are doing is inventing scenarios to pretend that he isn’t lying. First you attack the reporters for not contacting him, then when it was pointed out to you in another post that he was contacted you immediately scramble and say “But maybe he didn’t understand what they were talking about!”
So you are desperately trying to find any reason as to why he is somehow the victim here, and I am curious as to why.
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No. 17 · Bill Perdue
@schlukitz: Glad to see you comment got uncensored. ‘B’, pro bono lawyer for racism and any self loathing scum that comes down the pike must not like you much.
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No. 18 · Jesse Helms
George Alan Rekers should be prosecuted for underpaying his travel companion.
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No. 19 · schlukitz
@Bill Perdue:
Truth be known, I never got the impression that ‘B’had any special love for me (or anyone else on these threads, for that matter), from day one.
And that’s what I get for having the unmitigated gall to disagree with “B’. Who do I think I am? ;P
What I find particularly noteworthy, Bill, is the fact that ‘B’ has never once denied that he might have had anything to do with getting OneEquality1 and my comments moderated on this forum.
Which would seem to prove the old adage that it’s not always what one says that speaks reams about the person who is doing the attacking, but rather what they don’t say.
And that is what one really should pay mind to.
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Posted: Jun 15, 2010 at 1:00 pm”
To read what turns everyone off about ‘B’ visit: http://www.queerty.com/george-alan-rekers-was-ready-to-give-jo-vanni-roman-5-stars-on-yelp-20100514/
B
In No. 76 · Bill Perdue cyberstalker is trying to “dazzle them with BS/verbiage”.
See http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-315566 (Comment No 18) with his additional “contributions” to that thread being baseless personal attacks (Comment Numbers 20, 22, 24, 26, 29, 31, 34, 37, 39, 42, 44, 46, 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62, 64, 66, 68, 70, 72, 74, 76, 78, 80, 82, 83, 85, 87, 89, 91, 93, 95, 97, 99, 101, 103, 105, 108, 110, 112, 114, 116, 118, and 120 so far). Many are simply repeats or near repeats of the same garbage – a long list of misleading/false statements cut and pasted from his file. Then we have the thread http://www.queerty.com/bothersome-gay-activists-didnt-make-obamas-worst-parts-of-presidency-list-20100729/comment-page-2/#comment-337305 where Perdue continues the same behavior (Comment Numbers 11, 13, 18, 25, 27, 29, 31, 33, 35, 37, 39, 42, 45, 47, 49, 51, 53, 55, 57, 59, 61, 63, 65, 67, 69, 72, and 74 so far).
Bill Perdue has been posting these lies ever since he saw my reply ( http://www.queerty.com/obama-will-let-some-gay-federal-workers-share-gym-memberships-20100603/#comment-309977 ) to his comment in http://www.queerty.com/obama-will-let-some-gay-federal-workers-share-gym-memberships-20100603/#comment-309753 where he blames our first African American president for Proposition Eight’s passage even though President Obama stated his opposition to Proposition Eight during the campaign but otherwise ignored it.
B
No. 76 : cyberstalker Bill Perdue is continuing to repeat his lies and other misrepresentations to further his vendetta. His posts have previously been completely discredited. This one is no different.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ whines on and one but his record proves what he is – racist and a defender of the right.
He continues to lie relentlessly.
B
In No. 78 · Bill Perdue continues his dishonest, cyberstalking ways, posting lie after lie as part of his infantile vendetta.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ whines on and one but his record proves what he is – a racist and a defender of the right.
He continues to lie relentlessly and uselessly. People can spot a troll a mile away.
B
In No. 80, Bill Perdue, cyberstalking as usual, is continuing to post his lies, one after another.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ won’t, probably can’t stop lying. It’s a disease process. He’s a racist and a defender of the right.
B
In No. 82, Bill Perdue continues his bald-faced lies a la Goebbels.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ loves being a victim. Or at least pretending to be a victim when he gets criticized for his roles as a racist and a defender of the right.
He continues to lie relentlessly and uselessly. It does hom no good at all. People can spot a troll a mile away.
B
In No. 84 · Bill Perdue continues his lying and cyberstalking – the infant can’t stop making an ass of himself as he does his best to use Goebbels big lie technique by posting one fib after another.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying. It’s a disease process that also makes him a racist who defends the rightwing.
B
In No. 86, Bill Perdue continues his cyberstalking, posting one lie after another to further his infantile vendetta. Someone who is emotionally an adult would be embarrassed to behave the way Bill Perdue does.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying. It’s part of the same disease process that leads him to be a racist and a relentless defender of rightwigers.
He should stick to chasing ambulances.
B
In No. 88, Bill Perdue continues his cyberstalking vendetta as he posts lie on top of lie.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying. It’s part of his job to be a racist and a relentless defender of rightwigers.
Say hello to Leah Daughtry for us.
B
In No. 90, Bill Perdue, continues his baldfaced lies as he tries to further his infantile vendetta.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying. It’s his job to be a racist and a relentless defender of rightwigers.
Say hello to Leah Daughtry for us.
B
In No. 92, cyberstalker Bill Perdue cuts and pastes his lies, repeating http://www.queerty.com/bothersome-gay-activists-didnt-make-obamas-worst-parts-of-presidency-list-20100729/#comment-338954 verbatim.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying. It’s his job to be a racist and a relentless defender of rightwigers.
Say hello to Leah Daughtry.
B
In No. 94 cyberstalker Bill Perdue repeats his lies, copying and pasting the same garbage on multiple threads.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying. It’s his job to be a racist and a relentless defender of rightwigers. Now he wants us to feel soory for Mehlman, the quisling. That figures.
B
In No. 96, Bill Perdue is continuing his cyberstalking, with one lie after another as he repeats his lies from another thread.
What a mindless troll.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying. What else is new.
It’s his job to be a racist and a relentless defender of rightwigers. Now he wants us to feel soory for Mehlman, the quisling. That figures.
B
In No. 98, cyberstalker Bill Perdue continues his silly lies to the point where he has shown himself to be a pathological liar.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying. It’s his job to be a racist and a relentless defender of rightwigers.
Say hello to Leah Daughtry for us when you pick up your check.
B
In No. 100, Bill Perdue continues his cyberstalking, posting one lie after another, cutting and pasting from his previous posts, spelling errors included.
Bill Perdue
Stick to chasing ambulances ‘B’ and blog where your attempts to portray Obama, Ashburn, Rekers, Clinton, McCain, Mehlman and der papenfuehrer as our friends will be appreciated.
B
In No. 102 · Bill Perdue continues his cyberstalking disinformation campaign, copying his current garbage verbatim to http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-340828 1 minute later.
Bill Perdue
“B” should stick to chasing ambulances and blog where his attempts to portray Obama, Ashburn, Rekers, Clinton, McCain, Mehlman and der papenfuehrer as our friends will be appreciated.
B
In No. 104 · Bill Perdue is cyberstalking some more, posting the same pack of lies that he posted verbatim on another thread http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-341093 (No 146 on that thread).
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying or defending the rightwingers who oppose us. Say hello to Leah Daughtry for us when you pick up your check.
B
In No 106, baldfaced liar and cyberstalker Bill Perdue is continuing to post his lies, which he then pasted into a post on a different thread ( http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-341412 @ No 148)
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying and can’t stop his cynical defese of rightwingers who oppose us. He’s as worthless as he is pathetic.
B
In No 108, Bill Perdue is repeating his lies, cutting and pasting from another thread ( http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-341428 @ No 150) with a slight modification so he can claim he didn’t do it verbatim.
Bill Perdue
‘B’, who can’t stop lying and can’t stop his cynical defese of his fellow rightwingers is as worthless as he is pathetic.
B
In No 110, cyberstalker Bill Perdue is continuing his lies as part of his vendetta, copying the same garbage to http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-341632 (No. 152 on that thread) one minute later.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying and can’t stop his cynical defese of his fellow rightwingers. He’s as worthless as he is pathetic.
B
In No 112, cyberstalking troll Bill Perdue is duplicating the same trash talk on two threads, this one and No 154 at http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-341872 http://www.queerty.com/bothersome-gay-activists-didnt-make-obamas-worst-parts-of-presidency-list-20100729/#comment-341871 . You can tell he’s cutting and pasting because he’s duplicating his spelling errors.
Bill Perdue
‘B’ can’t stop lying and can’t stop his cynical defense of his fellow rightwingers. He’s as worthless as he is pathetic.
B
In No. 114 · Bill Perdue continues his cyberstalking, posting the same lies a minute later at No 156 on http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-342107 .
Bill Perdue
‘B’ is a wannabe attorney for the right – he defends, which is the same as supporting, racists, the pope, Obama, Clinton, McCain, Mehlman, the DADT compromise, Ashburn, Rekers among others.
The truth of that is easily established by reading his comments. He’s thoroughly discredited himself and whines when honest commenters – dozens of us – point that out. He should be posting at Gay Republic or Democrats dot com.
Democrats are Republicans in drag.
B
in No 116, cyberstalker Bill Perdue is putting out more trash talk
duplicating verbatim or nearly verbatim the garbage he posted at
No 158 on http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-342256 and most of what he posted on at No 49 on http://www.queerty.com/goprouds-christopher-barron-cant-we-all-forget-that-ken-mehlman-was-a-terrorist-to-gays-6-years-ago-20100828/#comment-342407
Bill Perdue
‘B’ is a wannabe attorney for the right – he defends, which is the same thing as supporting, racists, the pope, Obama, Clinton, McCain, Mehlman, the DADT compromise, Ashburn, Rekers among others.
The truth of that is easily established by reading his comments. He’s thoroughly discredited himself and whines when honest commenters – dozens of us – point that out. He should be posting at Gay Republic or Democrats dot com.
Democrats are Republicans in drag.
B
Re No 118 –
Regarding Bill Perdue’s last comment, he’s posting the same garbage verbatim on at least three separate threads as part of his cyberstalking, personal vendetta, and thread hijacking:
http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-342815
http://www.queerty.com/bothersome-gay-activists-didnt-make-obamas-worst-parts-of-presidency-list-20100729/#comment-342811
http://www.queerty.com/goprouds-christopher-barron-cant-we-all-forget-that-ken-mehlman-was-a-terrorist-to-gays-6-years-ago-20100828/#comment-342816
Bill Perdue
‘B’ is a boring casualty of terminal logorrhea and a relentless self appointed attorney for the right – he defends, which is the same thing as supporting – racists, the pope, Obama, Clinton, McCain, Mehlman, the DADT compromise, Ashburn, Rekers among others.
The truth is easily established by reading his comments. He’s thoroughly discredited himself and whines when honest commenter – dozens of us – point that out. He should be posting at Gay Republic or Democrats dot com where somebody might take him seriously. We don’t.
Democrats are Republicans in drag.
‘B’ is the FOF in drag.
B
Re No 120 –
Cyberstalker Bill Perdue is continuing his infantile personal vendetta by posting the same garbage verbatim on three separate threads, all within a couple of minutes of each other:
http://www.queerty.com/goprouds-christopher-barron-cant-we-all-forget-that-ken-mehlman-was-a-terrorist-to-gays-6-years-ago-20100828/#comment-343051
http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-343052
http://www.queerty.com/bothersome-gay-activists-didnt-make-obamas-worst-parts-of-presidency-list-20100729/#comment-343050
Bill Perdue
‘B’ is a boring liar whose terminal logorrhea and relentless defense of racism, the pope, Obama, Clinton, McCain, Mehlman, the DADT compromise, Ashburn, Rekers among others is getting rancid.
The truth is easily established by reading his comments. He’s thoroughly discredited himself and whines when honest commenter’s – dozens of us – point that out. He should be posting at Gay Republic or Democrats dot com where somebody might take him seriously. We don’t.
Democrats are Republicans in drag. ‘B’ is the FOF in drag.
B
Re 122: Bill Perdue is posting the same baseless personal attacks verbatim on at least three threads in his attempt to hijack threads for his infantile vendetta:
http://www.queerty.com/bothersome-gay-activists-didnt-make-obamas-worst-parts-of-presidency-list-20100729/#comment-343076
http://www.queerty.com/goprouds-christopher-barron-cant-we-all-forget-that-ken-mehlman-was-a-terrorist-to-gays-6-years-ago-20100828/#comment-343078
http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-343077
Bill Perdue
‘B’ is a boring liar whose terminal logorrhea and relentless defense of racism, the pope, Obama, Clinton, McCain, Mehlman, the DADT compromise, Ashburn, Rekers among others is getting rancid.
The truth is easily established by reading his comments. He’s thoroughly discredited himself and whines when honest commenter’s – dozens of us – point that out. He should be posting at Gay Republic or Democrats dot com where somebody might take him seriously. We don’t.
Democrats are Republicans in drag. ‘B’ is Focus on the Family in drag.
B
Re No. 124: Bill Perdue is posting the same baseless personal attacks verbatim on at least three threads in his attempt to hijack threads for his infantile vendetta. For the latest example, compare
http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-343188
http://www.queerty.com/bothersome-gay-activists-didnt-make-obamas-worst-parts-of-presidency-list-20100729/#comment-343187
http://www.queerty.com/goprouds-christopher-barron-cant-we-all-forget-that-ken-mehlman-was-a-terrorist-to-gays-6-years-ago-20100828/#comment-343186
Bill Perdue
‘B’ is boring, a liar whose terminal logorrhea and relentless defense – which is the same thing as supporting – of racists, the pope, Obama, Clinton, McCain, Mehlman, the DADT compromise, Ashburn, Rekers among others is getting rancid .
The truth is easily established by reading his comments. He’s thoroughly discredited himself and whines when honest commenter – dozens of us – point that out. He should be posting at Gay Republic or Democrats dot com where somebody might take him seriously. Nobody here does.
B
Re 126: Bill Perdue is continuing to post the same baseless personal attacks verbatim on at least three threads in his attempt to hijack threads for his infantile vendetta. For the latest example, compare the following URLs to his posts (No 62, 126, and 168 respectively):
http://www.queerty.com/goprouds-christopher-barron-cant-we-all-forget-that-ken-mehlman-was-a-terrorist-to-gays-6-years-ago-20100828/#comment-343672 (No. 62)
http://www.queerty.com/bothersome-gay-activists-didnt-make-obamas-worst-parts-of-presidency-list-20100729/#comment-343670 (No. 126)
http://www.queerty.com/did-olson-boies-just-secure-the-death-of-prop-8-20100617/#comment-343671 (No. 168)
Bill Perdue
Ill-tempered and dull, ‘B’ is a liar whose terminal logorrhea and relentless defense – which is the same thing as supporting – of racists, the pope, Obama, Clinton, McCain, Mehlman, the DADT compromise, Ashburn, Rekers among others is getting rancid .
The truth is easily established by reading his comments. He’s thoroughly discredited himself and whines when honest commenter – dozens of us – point that out. He should be posting at Gay Republic or Democrats dot com where somebody might take him seriously. Nobody here does.
‘B’ is Pat Robertson in drag.
B
Re No 129: troll Bill Perdue is cutting and pasting some more of his baseless personal attacks, in this case the same trash talk that appeared (with minor changes) on http://www.queerty.com/goprouds-christopher-barron-cant-we-all-forget-that-ken-mehlman-was-a-terrorist-to-gays-6-years-ago-20100828/#comment-344918 (No 75) with most of the post copied from any of the following: No. 71, 69, 66, 64, 62, 57, 55, 53, 51, 49, and 47 in the same thread ( http://www.queerty.com/goprouds-christopher-barron-cant-we-all-forget-that-ken-mehlman-was-a-terrorist-to-gays-6-years-ago-20100828/ ).
Bill Perdue
I poo-pooed my diaper again. I go play and eat my poo-poo now.
Bill Perdue
^^^^^^^A violent Islamophobic racist, james-from-the-great-city-of-cambridge dislikes being called an Obot, a Democrat and a racist.
Too bad. All his infantile forgeries and lies won’t stop me or anyone else from accurately describing him.
Bill Perdue
Ill-tempered and dull, ‘B’ is a liar whose terminal logorrhea and relentless defense, the same as support for racists, the pope, Obama, Clinton, McCain, Mehlman, the DADT compromise, Ashburn, Rekers among others is getting stale .
The truth is easily established by reading his comments. He’s thoroughly discredited himself and whines when honest commenter – dozens of us – point that out. He should be posting at Gay Republic or Democrats dot com where somebody might take him seriously. Nobody here does.
‘B’ is Pat Robertson in drag.
Bill Perdue
And he’s a racist Islamophobic zionist kike to boot.
Bill Perdue
Heil Arafat!
Bill Perdue
No 134 and 125 are forgeries by a violent Islamophobic racist, james-from-the-great-city-of-cambridge, who dislikes being called an Obot, a Democrat and a racist.
Too bad. All his infantile forgeries and lies won’t stop me or anyone else from accurately describing him.
Bill Perdue
Poor fools like ‘B’ and ‘james-from-the-great-city-of-cambridge’ are Obots who only know what the Zionist media & the racist Zionist government of Israel tells them: Israel belongs to the Palestinians and NO ONE ELSE!! Fuck that monkey Obama & his racist, homophobic and Islamophobic Zionist slave owners in Israel!!
Bill Perdue
^^^^^ 136 is another forgery by the ineffective piglet known as james-from-the-great-city-of-cambridge, a violent Islamophobic racist who dislikes being called an Obot, a Democrat and a racist.
Too bad. All his infantile forgeries and lies won’t stop me or anyone else from accurately describing him.
B
Re No 133: cut and paste troll Bill Perdue is repeating the same baseless personal attack verbatim that he put out in No. 129.