Kathryn Knott, Philip Williams, and Kevin Harrigan were offered a plea deal that includes community service and probation, but no jail time, reports The New Civil Rights Movement.
The trio of twenty-somethings were charged in a brutal September 11, 2014 attack of a gay couple in Philadelphia that left one of the men hospitalized with a broken jaw, which needed to be wired shut for almost two months.
Arrested on September 24, 2014, the accused were charged with aggravated assault, simple assault and recklessly endangering another person. Williams and Harrigan were charged with conspiracy, but not Knott.
Philly Gay News reports that Williams and Harrigan accepted a plea deal today in court, which included community service and probation but no jail time.
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Kathryn Knott reportedly rejected the deal and will be standing trial.
Victor Fiorillo at Philadelphia Magazine reports: “Kevin Harrigan and Philip Williams pleaded guilty to one count each of conspiracy and aggravated assault. Neither man will spend a day in jail. The guilty plea was given in exchange for a sentence of probation.”
Knott didn’t plead guilty. She’ll go to trial October 30.
On Facebook, WXPN’s Robert Drake noted that Harrigan will receive three years probation and Williams five years. Both will have to perform 200 hours each community service at an LGBT facility and cannot enter Center City until their probation has expired.
Local ABC News Affiliate WPVI added, “The plea deal was at the wish of the victims, according to the district attorney’s office. The victims said they felt safe in Center City before the attack.”
Michael Machado
So what’s the punishment then??
Danny Leines
That’s real justice for what they did. The justice system is really fucked up!
Londale Foster
Did u expect anything else??
jimmycurry01
If the plea deal is at the wish of the victims, then what is done is done. Time to put this story to rest.
Rich Penway
article says the victims approved the plea deal
Richard Neely
I hope her plan for a trial backfires.
Kristopher Saim-Gentry
If you read the article – the plea deal that the boys (not men) received was at the request of the victims. So a couple of thoughts here – as victims, all to often, we ask to lighten the punishment (think about Kim Davis: in the case the victims / plaintiffs didn’t want her to go to jail). Why are we so often, as a community, appalled by the actions against us and then when the law tries to step in we shy away from letting justice occur. The victims should have let this one go to trial and we should have sent all three of these disgusting people to jail. So this is not really justice not being served this is the justice the victims requested.
Charles Andrew Speck Hernandez
Let’s hope they don’t do more harm will serving community service.
Cagnazzo82
The solace is they’ll have to explain to all their future employers from here on out what their criminal conviction was about.
Better yet, all the employers have to do is google their names. 🙂
redcarpet30
Thats very generous of the victims, although on a visceral level I would love to see those two men rot in jail for at least a couple of months.
As for Katheryn Knott, well I hope they throw the book at her.
AtticusBennett
that’s a helluva lot of grace from the victims. the other rejects the plea? then i hope she gets jail time.
the attack was horrific, the violent prejudice in these brats is disgusting. and as others have pointed out, this will haunt them forever; every employer googles their prospective hires: and “violent criminal” will be right there for them all to see.
ingyaom
The option of probation and community service was very gracious on the part of the victims… and highly offensive on the part of Kathryn (with a Y) not to accept it. I hope she gets what she deserves for this hate-crime in court.
Richard Lee Zweiben Klein
So once again it’s ok to attack gay people and just give a slap on the wrist doing community service and probation instead of serving jail time.
Will Glitzern
It’s interesting how the guys look remorseful in their mugshots, but she looks like a hardened criminal. And then she rejects the plea deal.
Eric Michener
Now that they have pleaded guilty the real punishment will come in the form or civil cases. I hope she is found guilty and does jail time. She’s a piece of something that I will not say.
Terry Sandy
Didn’t I read at the time that her father was a judge?
JerseyMike
Who really expected them to get any jail time.. I must say that is a pretty stiff probation.. I hope her ass gets at least 6 months of jail time.. I’m sure she will walk because she is a little pretty(not really) blond girl.. get in there and cry, twirl your hair with your fingers they will feel sorry for her because she looks so sweet and innocent..
Greg Duardo
Pathetic justice system we have for violent offenders!
Billy Budd
They are WASPs, rich and beautiful. They will never go to jail, no matter what they do. Jails are for Nig***s and drug addicts.
Patrick Cremeans
People, READ THE ARTICLE!
DDstar1me
Random thought: As a child I would often imagine monsters to be these really scary gruesome creatures with all sorts of vile things coming from the body.
But you grow up and realize that monsters come in many beautiful forms. Now that to me is the scariest thing of all.
Dave Basora
Since when do the victims dictate what the charge and sentence are?
Cam
“”Williams and Harrigan were charged with conspiracy, but not Knott.””
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From the beginning she was always treated special. Remember, her father is a police chief. She threw one of the first punches, was the one yelling the slurs, and was encouraging others in the group to join in, but she was the only one NOT charged with Conspiracy.
Marky
The chick’s dad is a cop, according to her twitter she has dropped him off a case of beer for him to consume while on duty…? She did say she dropped it off at work after calling her dad to report someones plate to have them ticketed. Great family; the parents set such great examples for your kids–it doesn’t matter if you break the rules, as long as you get away with it. 😐 I can’t believe the victims believed the plea deal would “help to deter these kind of attacks in future.” Going to have the opposite effect. I hope that girl has a great time as the new fish in prison, if she even makes it that far. The deal was to work 200 hours community service in an LGBT facility; probably worse than jail to someone like her which is maybe why she rejected the deal. The whole case is a bit of a joke at this point.
Jim McHardy
These three people are the disgusting dregs of society. the victims of these animals certainly deserve better. I hope the two men realize how lucky they are.
Manny Yoko
/ GAY LIVES MATTER !!!!!
pjm1
“Local ABC News Affiliate WPVI added, ‘The plea deal was at the wish of the victims, according to the district attorney’s office. The victims said they felt safe in Center City before the attack.”
If this is true, that the deal was the “wish” of the victims, it would be worth hearing from the
victims that the statement is true and then try to understand why . . . the victims would want
violent offenders to get a light slap on the wrist.
tdh1980
I doubt the hand of justice would have been as sympathetic to a group of black toughs, even with the victims’ plea for compassion. Criming while white is real.
Mack
I do hope the victims sues the hell out of them.
Darren Zipperer
Yes, please read the piece carefully. If you want sheer punishment for punishment sake, great and I can understand your feelings. However, that route it is not going to rehabilitate anyone. It certainly will do the opposite. These “boys” will be required to do community service in a LGBT community center. It may be for nothing, but I believe sentences like this are our only hope to truly change and educate.
Blackceo
Shame. All 3 of them are a bunch of bitch ass thugs who need their asses whooped.
alphacentauri
@Londale Foster: Exactly but I’m not sure why the victims allowed them to get away with this, and get a slap on the wrist?
@tdh1980: Stop being a race baiting troll and dragging race and playing the “Poor black people” card.
Nate Gallagher
Losers
Marylou Porter
I agree with Kristopher Saim-Gentry. It is defeating the purpose to let people get away with a crime because the people on the other end of it believe they should be forgiving. If they get away with it once, they will surely will try it again.
alphacentauri
@Manny Yoko: You mean LGBT lives, not just “gay” lives. I’ve noticed how this wannabe “news” site does not run news articles about bisexual and trans people even when they’re in the national or international news.
Luis H. Lopez
Gay lives matter! we should retaliate !
Cam
If they were two black men and a black woman would the deal have even been offered?
tdh1980
@alphacentauri: I know that people only resort to name-calling when they can’t dispute facts, so I won’t hold that against you, but truth is truth whether you like it or not.
Hillers
If the community service in an LGBT facility changes the hearts and minds of the attackers, and they take that change with them and speak words of tolerance to everyone they meet for the rest of their lives, then I support the victims’ decision. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think that will have a far greater impact than any jail time would achieve. It may not feed our immediate, visceral hunger for justice in the moment, but it accomplishes something greater.
pjm1
@tdh1980: i agree with you that race
does play a role at every stage of the legal process, from arrest, prosecution,
pleading, etc etc. And our criminal justice system is broken and prejudiced,
especially against black men.
Kevin J Desmond
The little bitches daddy is a high ranking cop ( dirty cop ) and that’s why nothing’s gonna happen to them.
Timothy Kender.
Hate us hate, are we forgetting this? I’d love for haters to be rehabilitated! Stop the hate! Share the love.
Alfredo
Let them free. Then beat their insides out.
jimontp
I don’t get it. the victims said they “felt safer in the park before?” and now with 2 of the perps “doing community” service in the area around the park, how do they feel? Did someone in the local DA put pressure on the victims to ask for probation? If I was mugged by a gang of white trash thugs and got my jaw broken, I don’t think I would, UNLESS I was threatened. Think about it. Two gay guys attacked by a group of drunk bashers, who just happen to have police connections. Stinks to high heaven. And the police chief’s nasty gang leading bitch daughter refused to accept the deal. Come on, the fix is in. Isn’t the Federal Justice Department supposed to step in, when local authorities fail to prosecute hate crimes?
mike51295
Did anyone really think they would see jail?
Brian
Thugs should be jailed.
Will L
This may actually do more good for the guys. The victims are okay with it and they will have an opportunity to grow (by doing community service). Being jailed would simply make them bitter.
Hopefully, things will not be so rosy for the police chief’s daughter. She turned down a good deal for a roll of the dice. Let’s hope a jury hangs her.
Daniel-Reader
It’s the legal system – not the “justice” system. You like in America, right? Justice is entirely different than the legal system. If there was “justice”, the Saudi government would not be allowed to have a former GOP politician as their paid lobbyist to the U.S. Congress, when the Saudi government commits atrocities every day against Christians and LGBT people.
GG
What would qualify as justice for her? Let’s let her be beaten by a vicious threesome, breaking bones, eyes swelling until she can’t see, internal injuries, etc. Then have her jaw wired shut. Sounds fair to me.
Franklin
@alphacentauri: I think black people will stop playing the race card when people in this country stop dealing it.
Franklin
@alphacentauri: Also, tdh1980 is correct. When it comes to black people and the justice system in America, numerous studies have shown that more often than not, we are not shown as much leniency as others such as these individuals above. I wonder if the two gentlemen men had been attacked by these men in this article below, would they have offered the same probation and plead deal. Just a thought.
http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/07/14/three-men-get-5-year-sentences-for-beating-gay-man-in-atanta/
Marky
Wondering if the policeman-father may have been instrumental in “recommending” that plea deal.
Bob LaBlah
“Local ABC News Affiliate WPVI added, “The plea deal was at the wish of the victims, according to the district attorney’s office. The victims said they felt safe in Center City before the attack.”
Sounds like they got paid off. The others are no doubt “commoners” whose parents are of the working class, or, as we say down here, “poor —– working suburban trash”. I’ll let you figure the dashes but the fourth is the letter T.
seaguy
A plea deal with no jail time might have been agreed to by the victims but that still does not mean it should have been offered. The victims might have just been willing to do anything to get the whole thing over with and not thinking about the big picture which is that jail time would have also served as a warning to others who might try and commit a similar attack on gays in the future that they will face jail time and thus act as a deterrent which would have benefitted society as a whole rather than just the victims.
Hopefully that bitches rejection of the deal means she does get jail time. That was a good de3al and to have rejected it was stupid.
o.codone
@Danny Leines: the system you refer to is liberal democrat judges. you’re voting for hillary, right? you voted for the current clown, right? you created the problem. so don’t complain.
1EqualityUSA
The girl looks so mean. The face of hate is incredibly ugly.
Malibu Eric
I respect the victims wishes but I really want to hear from them why they chose this version of a plea deal. In my humble opinion this attack was so brutal that the attackers deservedly need to spend some amount of time behind bars. Then they can be “rehabilitated”. I have my doubts.
Kangol
@alphacentauri: tdh is correct, and not “r@ce-baiting.”
If these attackers had been black they’d have been convicted. But young and white and it’s alright. Only a r@cist throws out a term like “race card.”
The blonde dead-eyed dough-faced whore who threw the first punch should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, no matter what the victims say. She can plea for mercy when she’s getting her pasty ass kicked from one end of the jail to the other.
youarekiddingme
@o.codone:
You MORON, the plea deal had NOTHING to do with the judge…It was offered by the District Attorney! You don’t even know who the judge was who was assigned (or would have been assigned) to this case so you have no idea what his/her political affiliation might have been. You are such a putz.
Ken Overholt
Suspected???
Transiteer
So I guess selective straight bashing will be required then . . . . .
Tackle
@alphacentauri: Why don’t you stop being blinded by your OWN r@cism and face reality. R@cism is still a problem, and plays a role in all structures of American society.@tdh1980: You are correct. And never be silent so they can be comfortable…
Christopher Strenge
The victims approved the plea deal because they knew this was all they were going to get out of this – being that Pennsylvania has no special protections for Gay people. Sucks to be a Gay victim in Pennsylvania.
woodin
Hopefully the victims will share the outcome of any civil suits against the three.
Sluggo2007
@tdh1980: Excuse me, but this blog is not about race. I think you’ll be able to find many blogs that are if you’ll just do a little googling.
taobroin
This is bullshit for a h8 crime. should have gotten jail time for sure.
SeeingAll
@Franklin: The U.S./race/crime/statistics can be looked at in a number of ways. Philadelphia also had approximately 150 murders in 2014, the majority being black-on-black crimes. Does the public not care as much because the perps are black or because the victims are black ? Do the police not care as much about black-on-black crime ? Etc etc etc
taobroin
@seaguy: Exactly right!!
SeeingAll
@Kangol: But if they weren’t Catholic then the gay community wouldn’t have wanted them lynched. So there’s bigotry all around. Protestant defendents NEVER have to deal with attacks from the gay community like the “papists” do.
Atomicrob
Seems ridiculous after what they did . . . Pennsylvania remains very conservative despite a few civil rights wins in the larger cites. This, however, is a travesty. What if a group of gay guys beat the three of them?
SeeingAll
@Atomicrob: Seems ridiculous that around the very same time a Philadelphia black lesbian is shot point blank in the head right on the street and the gay community couldn’t care less. Could it be because….the perps in this case fall into the “enemy” categories ? Just wondering.
scotshot
@alphacentauri:
I must say your comment is spoken like a true White Privilege male.
t’s all about Race.
It’s all about Gay.
It’s all about Gender.
Kangol
@SeeingAll: What are you talking about? IF these were white Protestant gaybashers they’d be pilloried by gay people too! Are you defending them because they’re Catholic? WTF?
SeeingAll
@Kangol: Name me the last (real) case of gaybashing where the “Gay Community” went after the perps as feverishly when those perps were Protestant or any other religion. I folowed this case closely from the beginning, and I saw what was driving it. Go read the GPhilly coverage and the comments.
SeeingAll
@Kangol: And of course I’m not defending them because they’re Catholic. What a ridiculous conclusion. But I’ve watched gay anti-Catholic snottery (including laughing over the deaths of Catholic firemen on 9-11) for too long and…it’s time to be honest about it. Gays still think that whole anti-Papist thing gives them class.
youarekiddingme
@SeeingAll: You have NO IDEA what you are spouting! (AS USUAL). ANTI-CATHOLIC GAYS…wtf? Btw, Papist is considered a disparaging term, so if you’re saying gays are anti-Papist, ok that’s a fair statement. You are making such broad statements about laughing over “Catholic Firemen from 9-11″…stop drinking the coolaid. Ok if you’re going to believe that then I guess all gay people have anal sex and all gay people are pedophiles and all gay people want to get in every guys pants and all gay people want to do is have sex and walk around in assless chaps…
Anymore rediculus generalizations to make about a group of people (including your own)?
I don’t like Catholics for good reason…I used to be one. I have also had to put up with the coverup of the clergy after the “inappropriate sexual behavior”….so please don’t “lump” everyone together. Some of us KNOW what we are talking about (and have evidence to back it up).
So you know, I’m not just picking on Catholics (who I have good reason to) but all organized religions. Can’t stand any of them. They’re all out to make money. Period.
tdh1980
@Sluggo2007: As a black gay man, I can and will talk about race whenever it suits me — ESPECIALLY considering I feel my absolute “blackest” when discussing race with gay white men.
1EqualityUSA
tdh1980 the more we talk about it the healthier we all become.
GayEGO
Kathryn Knott probably would rather get some jail time and some good spankings in the jail.
Cam
@SeeingAll:
LOL!!! Your post starts off that you aren’t defending them because they are Catholic, and then you follow that up with an entire screed attacking gays for being anti-Catholic! LOL
I was going to suggest you read your posts before clicking the submit button, but no, don’t, keep doing what you’re doing because it’s so much funnier that way.
SeeingAll
@Cam: You’re the amusing one, if you think that criticizing anti-Catholic bigotry is the same as defending a criminal solely because he is Catholic. Goofy logic on your part.
SeeingAll
@youarekiddingme: Gays consider all Catholics “Papist”. It IS sometimes used in a Theological sense, yes, but with the gay ghetto it’s a class distinction. They hate Catholics even when they convert because, to their thinking, Catholic DNA is still there. (The only Catholics the gay community considers as “good” as Protestants are the French ones). This is from years of experience with the NYC gay ghetto, so don’t talk Kool-Ade to me just because you don’t like the message and are trying to discredit it. (Not only laughing about Catholic firemen, but about Father Judge specifically…who’d been nothing but an ally to those people).
SeeingAll
@youarekiddingme: Since you’re one of the gay anti-Catholics, how do you feel about them actually seeing you (former Catholic, which still means Catholic) as a different (lesser) being compared to the WASP establishment? To see you as having a different makeup, different flesh, different blood ? You can convert to another religion, or drop all religion, but nothing will ever change that.
SeeingAll
@Luis H. Lopez: LOL. Can’t wait to see you lead an attack against Pastor Manning up in Harlem.
youarekiddingme
@SeeingAll: Hey because you have the singular focus of the NYC area I don’t believe that gives you the ability to judge the ENTIRE gay community!
Btw…were you molested by a priest? Then have them cover it up? Then shut the fuck up! I know a little more about the subject than you will EVER know!
SeeingAll
@youarekiddingme: Was I molested by a priest ? Answer this : how would that, in any way, affect the criticism I’m directing toward the Gay Ghetto for laughing about dead firemen or making sure to eliminate everyone with a suspiciously Catholic name from the dinner party ? Or for wishing death upon YOUR own family members. Really..I don’t even see the connection. (??)
SeeingAll
@youarekiddingme: BTW : Whether it’s a molesting priest, or a kid who got molested, it makes no difference in the Gay Ghetto. Both parties are still Catholic, and equally deserving of contempt. This is what you can’t seem to grasp. And that’s the primary reason this case is a particular fixation for the Gay Ghetto….It’s the defendents. Nobody out there can name the Muslim lunatic who tried to burn hundreds of gays and lesbians to death on New Year’s Eve as quickly as they can rattle off “Kathryn Knott”. Nobody cares that a black Protestant male murders a black lesbian. Or the 150 Philly murders that year. It always comes down to the culprit(s) more than the victim. Again, nobody’s religious/ethnic identity should excuse them from a crime (that goes without saying). But nobody’s religion/ethnic identity cements their guilt either (as much as Gays want to change that rule).
mz.sam
@Michael Machado: The trio was fined $1,000 fine and community service. Justice was not served!
youarekiddingme
@SeeingAll: I can tell by your kind and compassionate response to me how things really bother you when others are wronged…I’m sure that since these deceased Catholic Firemen were desecrated by these mentally deranged gays you certainly can point me to some media coverage of the outrageous event? Such an event was surely captured and covered somewhere in media…Do you have the event captured on you phone perhaps? A friend maybe? Can you upload the horrendous event because I was unable to locate the event via a google search but perhaps my parameters were incorrect…
My cousin is a parmedic btw so I’m not some cold-hearted anti-first responder person. I’m also a combat vet so I think I know a little about such events as well. I just haven’t seen evidence of the event that you describe…
I can grasp more than you will fathom. Rather than “watching” them unravel…I was actually a part of some of them.
SeeingAll
@youarekiddingme: Now I don’t even know what you’re getting at. Or asking. I gave my opinion (garnered over time from evidence) that the main reason gays were fixated on this case was because of their traditional Anglophile Protestant-based anti-Catholic bigotry, because the defendents knew each other from a Catholic high school. That’s all I’m saying. That’s not defending the accused (in a case I’m not on the inside of). You discussing Catholic clergy abuse and the Crusades and the Inquisition and Danny Thomas and Martin Luther and all other vaguely-connected subjects doesn’t seem relevant ….unless I’m missing something here.
youarekiddingme
@SeeingAll: Uh yes. You told me about this group of gays who went after these deceased Catholic Firefighters from 9-11. I’m wondering if you can share the media coverage on that for me…Or the phone video that you or one of your friends captured of the horrific event because I never saw it and wasn’t able to find it on google.
SeeingAll
@youarekiddingme: BTW : No, I don’t have evidence to show you the 9-11 mockery specifically. I don’t think that’s something the gay bars wanted to advertise.
youarekiddingme
@SeeingAll: How did you find out about it? How do you know it’s true?
SeeingAll
@youarekiddingme: I bet you can’t find links to Protestant gays sneaking up to the Bronx or out to Brooklyn to offer payment to blow the straight micks either. Not everything is recorded on google. (Nor drag queens dressing up like the World Trade Towers and throwing barbie dolls out the windows).
SeeingAll
@youarekiddingme: I was right in the middle of it. And long before 9-11, and long after.
youarekiddingme
@SeeingAll: That’s what I asked you…sheesh. How did you know… Obviously if you were there, and observed it, you know it happened. That was my point. We both know how stories “tales” get carried. I was trying to see if there was something legit to this story or if it was something being repeated by someone who wasn’t even there…hence my google search (and asking about videos, etc). As I have commented in previous posts (and the one above), I have witnessed (and been victimized) first hand. Don’t assume that I won’t believe you if you say you were there/saw it. That’s not the case at all. Horrible mess. Glad it wasn’t publicized. There’s always idiots in every group.
SeeingAll
@youarekiddingme: You didn’t say you were victimized. You asked if I had been molested by a priest. ////////////////// i know a Cuban of spanish descent who refers to the Manhattann Wasps as descendents of those 17th Century boat people. That’s how he deals with their bigotry. So to you Catholics I say to just tell the gay Protestant bigots that they never produced a DaVinci or a Michelangelo.
SeeingAll
@youarekiddingme: BTW : I was 100 percent in support of Will Lynch beating up the priest who’d molested him as a child. Was thrilled he was acquitted. Would love to see that happen more, in fact. It’s just that that’s a whole different issue from what I was getting at here. Whether you agree with me or not. Understand ?
animaux
@SeeingAll: You are defending these criminals just because they are Catholics. That’s so unprincipled. Gays are criticizing them because they are homophobic gay bashers, because they have connections in the police and because that is what resulted in such unjust sentence. Oh, and probably the fact that they are good white Catholics. If they were any other group it would all be different.
alphacentauri
@tdh1980: This is not the r@cist ‘black lives matter’ campaign that’s a failure. Now you’re going from attacking gays, to trying to take a page out of NOM’s old playbook and try to stir up black/LGBT trouble.
This was old news when NOM tried to do it after Prop 8, shame on you for being boring enough to try it this late in the game.
alphacentauri
@Sluggo2007: Exactly that foolish troll is nothing but a race baiter and he’s shown how he’s r@cist against anyone that’s not black.
@animaux: Well said.
@SeeingAll: I’m not surprised that people who are Catholic beat up and bashed members of the LGBT community since Catholics are majorly bigoted.
youarekiddingme
@SeeingAll: You’re right, I didn’t say that I was molested…just implied it by my sarcasm in my question to you. I should have been more direct. Yes I was. I don’t hold the entire Catholic Church/religion accountable but I do hold the entire church accountable for their support of hiding the priests who committed these crimes. It was known at the highes levels of the vatican that this shell game was going on. That’s a side point however. If you see me saying “negative” things about the Catholic “organized” religion, you’ll know why.
To the point of this article…I condemn these Men (not boys, and woman) for what they did and I could give a fuck less what their religious beliefs are. They’re obviously hypocrites if they’re going around beating two innocent men (almost to death) for no reason (other than their sexual orientation). They have connections. They got off light. Don’t think for a minute that the prosecutor didn’t whisper in the victim’s ears, “Hey, if this goes to trial it could drag out for months. Do you really want to disrupt your lives for that long?”
SeeingAll
@alphacentauri: The majority of U.S. Catholics are pro-gay equality in every way.
SeeingAll
@youarekiddingme: I understand all you’re saying. And sorry it escaped me that you were referring to stuff you’d gone through personally. Of course I’m totally on your side re. THAT in every way.
SeeingAll
@animaux: Where do I defend the criminals ?
SeeingAll
@animaux: BTW : You’ve espoused that every white Christian (Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, whatever..) in the U.S. and Europe should be stripped of all his property by the government and have his children taken away from him. In all fairnes, do you expect the white Christian communities to support any type of same-sex equality ?
Joe
Knott, whose daddy is a Bucks County Police Chief, I think feels she can get out of this. Though she does not face felony charges like the other two men. I hope the book is thrown at her. She has been in trouble before. The defiance in her wants me to slap the shit out of her. I don’t believe in violence against a woman, but she ain’t no lady.
Cam
@SeeingAll:
What a shock, BJ’s other screename is defending brutal anti-gay attackers.
You’ve crossed a mental line. I hope you see that. Normally you defend political bigots, but now you are doing your best to shill and minimize violent physical attacks.
Your level of self hatred has reached what seems like a truly dangerous and unbalanced point.
SeeingAll
@Cam: You want me (or us) so bad.
tdh1980
@alphacentauri: You. Don’t. Make. No. Sense. Not a lick. But thank you for proving my point with each successive post directed toward me.
Cam
@SeeingAll:
Changing the topic, which is that you are defending bigots who brutally attacked people because they were gay.
You support and defend.
SeeingAll
@Cam: Well….yeah…I’d support Kathryn Knott if she beat YOU up.
1EqualityUSA
Then she could care for him in the E.R. in which she works.
SeeingAll
@1EqualityUSA: That would serve them BOTH right.
1EqualityUSA
I would’t wish that on anyone. I suspect that you wouldn’t either.
Cam
@SeeingAll:
And again, doing anything you can to always support anybody who is an anti-gay bigot.
surreal33
@Darren Zipperer: Please understand you cannot rewire a person who is hard wired to hate!!! What you can do is respond to the offender the same level of violence which was directed at you. Look to Israel to see how it is done.
surreal33
The Justice system is a joke! Ask Eric Garner…oh wait you can’t he was murdered on camera and no charges were filed. Haters who attack second class citizens (ie.people of color,gays) rarely are punished. Solution kill the haters problem solved.
SeeingAll
@surreal33: Are we allowed to kill the haters who attack straight people and white people too ?
Nahald
I hope those men get the sh*t sued out of them, and end up having to pay for it the rest of their lives !
Bryguyf69
@jimmycurry01 wrote:
“If the plea deal is at the wish of the victims, then what is done is done. Time to put this story to rest.”
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I might normally agree with you except that you’re missing the point of a Hate Crime, which this clearly is. The only reason they weren’t charged with a Hate Crime was because such a law didn’t exist until a month later, on Oct 30, 2014. The concept of a Hate Crime is that the offense is, at least in part, targeted toward an entire group and not just the victim. In other words, they are a danger to a larger community. As such, should they be walking around freely when there’s no proof that they’ve repent or changed? Merely banning them from Center City won’t protect LGBTs outside of Center City. So like other crimes, the victim’s opinion should be considered but ultimately, the DA and Justice System works for the entire citizenry so jail time is warranted.