Hi, readers! Editor Andrew here again. Don’t worry, I’m not here to talk about my penis – although it does deserve some more attention, the sweet thing.
I’m employing the first person today to discuss a topic that’s closer to my cold, dead heart: politics. This election has already changed the face of America. More and more young people are going out to vote, once disenfranchised groups have been brought into the fold and real potential looms on the horizon. Yes, it’s an optimistic time here in the United States. I can’t help but wonder, however, if all the emotion and passion will blow up in our national face, particularly on the Democratic side of the ideological divide.
The Republican party has been broken since day one. We had relatively liberal candidates like Rudy Giuliani going up against right wing wack-jobs like Duncan Hunter, both of whom have since faced the facts and dropped out. The race now largely belongs to John McCain, a man many social conservatives promise not to endorse. Just last week Evangelical leader James Dobson endorses McCain’s chief rival, Mike Huckabee. Clearly the Republicans are in trouble and their infighting may cost them the election, especially if the true conservatives keep their promise and refuse to participate with McCain on the ballot. Now, this is all common knowledge and really shouldn’t shock any of you – unless, of course, you simply haven’t been following American politics. And even then it should be pretty digestible – despite public appearances, the Republicans have never been the most united party.
So, yes, it’s the Democrats who are really worrying me right now. We have two stellar candidates from that party – Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, a black man and a woman. As Anthony Appiah said to me the other day, this is something of which Democratic voters should be immensely proud. I know I am. Another interview subject, Degrassi‘s Adamo Ruggiero, whose interview will be going up later this week, told me he’s astounded – and envious – of the amount of political passion we Americans have for our presidential politics.
He’s right – it’s incredible to see people crying at Obama appearances or screaming with glee when they see Hillary Clinton, who has, in some ways, become the great American auntie. How will these politico’s respective supporters able to cope if their candidate loses? Will the party survive the coming storm? Consider this blurb from today’s NY Times:
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With every delegate precious, Mrs. Clinton’s advisers also made it clear that they were prepared to take a number of potentially incendiary steps to build up Mrs. Clinton’s count. Top among these, her aides said, is pressing for Democrats to seat the disputed delegations from Florida and Michigan, who held their primaries in January in defiance of Democratic Party rules.
Mrs. Clinton won more votes than Mr. Obama in both states, though both candidates technically abided by pledges not to campaign actively there.
Mr. Obama’s aides reiterated their opposition to allowing Mrs. Clinton to claim a proportional share of the delegates from the voting in those states. The prospect of a fight over seating the Florida and Michigan delegations has already exposed deep divisions within the party.
Julian Bond, the head of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, called for the delegates to be seated, saying failure to do so would amount to disenfranchising minority voters in those states. But on Wednesday, such a move was denounced by the Rev. Al Sharpton of New York, who said many people in those states did not go the polls because they assumed their votes would not count.
A number of key democratic leaders have publicly derided the superdelegate process. Longtime political operative Donna Brazile may be the most notable, telling the world – and her party – that she would leave the Democratic National Committee if the nomination comes down to the political elite. And imagine what such a decision would do to voters, many of whom lost faith after the ballot scandals of 2000 and 2004. Strategist Tad Devine put it well over at CNN:
If a perception develops that somehow this decision has been made not by voters participating in primaries or caucuses, but by politicians in some mythical backroom, I think that the public could react strongly against that.
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The problem is [if] people perceive that voters have not made the decision — instead, insiders have made the decision — then all of these new people who are being attracted to the process, particularly the young people who are voting for the first time, will feel disenfranchised or in some way alienated.
All the optimism and progress made over the past few months would be in vain.
Let’s play hypothetical, though, and assume that the superdelegates do decide the Democratic nominee. Hillary Clinton currently has a lead in the privileged group and would likely get the nomination if it comes down to the wire. She would also likely get the nomination if the DNC counts Florida and Michigan, where Obama wasn’t even on the ballot. What would this do to Barack Obama’s supporters? Would they be willing to put aside months of wishful thinking and support Hillary Clinton? And what if Obama wins the nomination? Will the former First Lady’s voters – especially those motivated by her womanly ways – be content with backing Barack Obama?
None of these questions have answers, of course, but I think it’s best that all Democrats remember the real goal: the White House. Sure, your candidate matters, but not as much as party unity and certainly not as much as the America’s damaged collective.
Charley
As a strong Obama supporter, I don’t like the dirty campaign tricks that are going on from both sides.
However, which ever Democratic candidate wins the most delegates at the convention, I will vote for so as not to elect another GOP corrupt war mongering adminstration.
The super delegates will go along with the majority of voters, and that looks like Obama. They don’t want the party split, even though they may be loyal over the years to the Clinton’s. Andy Tobias and many others got their jobs with the DNC because of the Clinton’s.
emb
I agree with Charley: while the Dems have shown remarkable skill in the past with snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, shooting themselves in their collective foot, and generally making a muck-up of any number of nice opportunities (2006 Congressional elections, for instance), I don’t believe that the DNC is stupid enough to ignite the kind of firestorm that would result from any hint of a “stolen” nomination. For that matter, Hillary Clinton is a very smart woman, and unlikely to go so far down the dirty politics road that she costs the dems a slam-dunk election by engaging in anything that could be perceived as underhanded.
This all may be moot if Obama continues his momentum. It was not so long ago that pundits were confidently predicting a brokered republican convention, and no one’s doing that now. Similarly, if Obama continues to steadily rack up delegates and consistently win primaries and caucusi, he may create a lead that is, if not necessarily automatically determinative, at least so persuasive that no last-minute maneuvering can stop it.
The bottom line is that, for once, the Democratic Party has coughed up not one but two exceptional and historic candidates, both of whom have gotten this far without much media hand-wringing about “Is American ready for a [black][woman] President?” That’s pretty remarkable. Unfortunately, they’re both exceptional and create passionate supporters, so whichever ultimately gets the nomination will have her or his work cut out placating the unhappy other half of the democratic base. But that’s not insurmountable either, if those of us in the democratic base can consider the big picture (our 2d favorite candidate vs a 73 year old bush-clone).
The whole thing makes cynical old politics-wonky me surprisingly proud and a little weepy sometimes. Let’s just not blow it.
justin bright
Good post. If Democrats forget the big goal, it could hurt the party on several levels in the next election and beyond. The Democrats have the Republicans on the run now, the fundamentalist right is showing signs of divide. And Bush’s disasterous fiscal policy is causing problems for fiscal conservatives with the party. The social libertarians in the party are feeling more and more uncomfortable.
All of these Republicans problems are meaningless if the Obama / Clinton nomination process does not come to a clear and clean end. It has the potential to create a rift in the party if egos. I’m more of an Obama guy now, but if Clinton earns the nomination I will support her enthusiastically.
Charley
Bottom line, The Democratic Party is about raising funds to elect Democratic Candidates. Should the voters feel disenfrancished and their votes don’t count, but left up to the 800 superdelegates with a backroom decision, then there goes donations to the Democratic Party. It’s all over for DNC. Voters are the givers of money to the DNC, superdelegates are the takers.
todd
It would serve Hillary right if she had to be the Vice-P. It would be like Al Gore’s revenge. I don’t think anyone counted on Obama having so much momentum. Bush’s horrible presidency has made people want MORE dramatic change even FASTER. Hillary should have been more outspoken sooner – instead of playing it safe and looking like one more Bush Boot-licker.
leomoore
I am one of those whose first and second choice. Bill Richardson and John Edwards respectively, candidates for the Democratic nomination dropped out of the race. This left me with a dilemma on Super Tuesday. Go with Obama or Clinton. Either candidate is acceptable to me, but I could only vote for one. I debated even as I completed the steps to get my ballot. When it came time to press the screen for my selection, I voted for……..Clinton. I am not so emotionally invested that I will give up in disgust and not vote if Obama is chosen. I vote for the party not the individual. We cannot give the Republicans four more years to finish the job of crashing America into the cliff towards which Bush has sent us careening.
The current incarnation of the Republican party is a stain on the body politic that should be removed entirely. We will be paying for their misdeeds, incompetence, blind adherence to ideology, and lack of critical thinking for generations. They couldn’t have done a better job wrecking the country than if they had been a sleeper cell for al Qaeda, itself. After all that has gone so horribly wrong in the last 7 years, I learned in 2004 to never underestimate the sheep-like stupidity of many American voters or the willingness of Republican operatives to lie, cheat, and steal to win an election.
Dawster
i don’t really think that it’s as bad as that. in comparison, Hillary seems to be running somewhat of a very assertive, by-the-book robo-campaign – effective and efficient in it’s movement. Obama seems to be running more of a polite version of a guerrilla warfare, closer to the people, ‘from-the-hip’ (for better or for worse), and all with a sweet smile.
the ideology of both is drastically different. Hillary has the “us and them” mentality while Obama has the “why can’t we all just get along” theme going. yes, i realize that i’m oversimplifying the situation. this particular time, this moment here… during the primaries… this space is specifically used for inner-party divisions. THAT IS THE POINT. each party is allowed this time to bicker and bitch, congregate and communicate, and eventually take to a vote as to who would better suit to represent the party (and America) as a whole.
it’s part of ‘due process’. when all the arguments among the party are hashed out, they won’t come up later during the general election. well, they might come up, but each party would respond with “geez, you moron, didn’t we already go through this?”
there are more than enough examples where rivals of the same party during the primaries linked arms for the general election. that’s not unheard of. whatever derision and biting we see among the candidates today will dissipate once the democratic candidate is selected. Democrats in America will follow suite (trickle-down acceptance?).
John McCain, on the other hand, will have a very difficult time. thinking people can mentally be passive with enough information (me thinking Hillary won’t require all males to be castrated if she is elected, for example). Republicans don’t often have that adaptability. McCain is loosing the religious conservative vote… and those people don’t think, they vote from the heart (as god intended). they seem to be in worse shape than the democrats are since they have to mix both politics AND faith… and that can get pretty hairy.
abelincoln
QUOTE:I learned in 2004 to never underestimate the sheep-like stupidity of many American voters or the willingness of Republican operatives to lie, cheat, and steal to win an election.ENDQUOTE
Agreed, but don’t forget that the media was also complicit with their sheep-like stupidity and sniffing up the asses of the current regime. Read “The Greatest Story Ever Sold” for details.
I don’t care who wins the nomination as long as it can send the nominee to the White House. If we are petty enough to not vote because the dem we like didn’t get nominated then we are just as bad as the repubs with their narrow minded pure ideology or nothing mentality. If we are stupid enough to not vote for whoever gets the nod, then we deserve another eight years of a republican disaster.
leomoore
“don’t forget that the media was also complicit with their sheep-like stupidity and sniffing up the asses of the current regime”
I grant there was a media role in this, but that is why I used the description “sheep-like”. Maybe I’m just judgemental, but there was more than enough evidence even on the craven American news outlets to know that Bush was far too incompetent to be reelected. Mental laziness is a big factor amongst both self-identified conservatives and liberals. As for anyone who chooses not to participate and claims there is no difference in the parties is beneath contempt. Most fundamentalists I ever met choose to be ignorant in that when faced with enormous amounts of evidence contrary to what they want to believe, they pretend the evidence isn’t real and start using sophistry to explain away the evidence.
hells kitchen guy
Much ado about nothing. Most people (I’m among them) think they’re both pretty good, and they have nearly exact same policy positions.
Much more worrying is that the Republicans somehow stumbled on the best candidate they could have put forward. McCain is least hatable of the GOP contenders – THAT’S the problem!
hells kitchen guy
BTW, love the ad for the Republican National Committee at the bottom of the post. Very appropriate. How many pieces of silver did Jossip get for that ad?
hisurfer
My biggest fear now is that Hillary will use scorched-earth tactics to win (i.e., the nuclear option: fighting to have Michigan and Florida seated without either state having a proper vote). She could win the battle and lose the war. I want to believe that she wouldn’t … but there’s that small part of me that worries.
The Right Wing has already started floating ideas on taking on Obama. Get ready for: Obama the anti-Semite, Obama the secret black nationalist, and Obama the coke-loving Chicago club kid. I’ve seen all these ideas floated, courtesy of an acquaintance on the right. They’ll keep trying until one sticks. He’s so frakkin’ naive if he thinks fighting off the Clintons prepares him for taking on the right wing.
PalePhoenix
Ditto @ HK Guy. wtf. Anywhore…
I find myself increasingly concerned that Obama will get the nomination…only to be shot on or shortly after his own inauguration. He seems like a delightful fellow, what with the rainbows flying out of his ass half the time, and cribbing Clinton’s year-old playbook, the rest. Unfortunately, nominating–and electing–him is voting for a cipher.
You can’t take hope to the bank. Hope won’t fill your tank. Hope can’t insure and educate our kids, and it sure won’t “bring the troops home.” Many people’s so-called ‘reasons’ for disliking Hillary have absolutely nothing to do with whether they believe she can perform the job effectively. In point of fact, most of those factors–that she’s connected, stern, or even that word Ms. Fonda used earlier–are exactly what we’d expect from a President…if he were a man.
Her husband repaired the damage Bush pere did, and it would be fair to say that Bush fils has done that and worse. If she fails at this nearly insurmountable-for-one-term task, then everyone will just say it’s because she’s a woman anyway. I’d almost be willing to see her lose the nomination if it meant she didn’t have to waste four years playing Global Clean-Up and Apologize to Everybody. If we turned into “Thatcherite America,” then it would be because we desperately needed it, and not the empty romance of a Kennedy wannabe.
Barry
Andrew, talk about your penis all you want. I’d be more than happy to help in any way I can.
cynic oman
its all GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
seitan-on-a-stick
The Obamacons (Obama Republicans) have set up this process to fail courtesy of Queerty and the snickering Republicans who Hillary-bash as “Fake” Gay Barack supporters. Remember, anyone can post here!! When a GOP candidate with an Independent following meets another Independent in the General Election, the GOP win. Hillary Clinton does have the right to apportioned Super-delegates and the Primary votes in which Barack Obama signed a pledge not to run. Does that not disenfranchise the states of Michigan and Florida? This is a set-up for disaster (despite Andrew’s self-flagellation) for the Democratic Party. Will pissed-off Hillary supporters go with the “Maverick” and will Obama-crats stay home or cross party lines to vote against their interests should their candidate not win the Presidential Party nomination. What happens IF Barack Obama wins the State Delegate Count and the Popular Vote? What happens to the Apportioned Democrats if they change the lead to Hillary Clinton as is expected? Who set us up with this train wreck? ANSWER: The Media who have business before Congress and need a President McCain.
Bill Perdue
Forgetting the abominating Hillary bashers and the bilious Obama smashers and getting back to the real world, all we can hope for is that the long overdue demise or the Democrats (sic) is swift and total.
The debate over Barney Frank’s rape of ENDA created a huge pool of honest activists who are sick to death of the constant backstabbing of Democrats like Billary Clinton, Frank, Pelosi, Obama and etc. After the election the Democrats might pass this or that impotent version of ENDA or the hate crimes act. On the other hand, it’s just as likely they’ll drop them like they just did to win support from conservative Democrats and Republicans during the 2008 elections. They won’t repeal Billary Clintons DOMA. In their minds we don’t count for much but the ‘contributions’ and votes of bigots do.
They might repeal DADT if the need for cannon fodder becomes too great because they invade Iran (Billary’s idea) or Pakistan (Obama’s retarded plan) or both. Then again they could reintroduce the draft or play the nuclear card.
However they do it the Democrats will wield their back stabbing knives and since most people who vote for them are far to their left that combination of factors will likely quicken their breakup. Like the Republicans, who are due for a historic drubbing at the hands of those who still bother to vote, when that mantle passes to the Democrats they too will be exposed as a party owned lock, stock and barrel by bigots, union busters, war hawks and oil pirates.
When their post election splintering gets serious we’ll want to form alliances with disenchanted unions, groups representing African Americans and immigrants, the antiwar movement and others. We’ve supported those groups in the past but this time around we’re cohesive enough to do in our own name and to press them to support our agenda. The prospects for alliance building are much better because we’re not the only ones with bleeding back wounds. The Democrats are equal opportunity backstabbers.
In terms of leadership potential we have an embarrassment of riches. A movement wide coalition could be formed by UnitedENDA or groups like NGLTF or Pride at Work. The post elections struggles won’t be supported HRC, the Log Cabinites or the Stonewall Democrats – as usual they’ll put party before principle.
However it works out, it’ll be fun to watch and be a part of it.
steve
[quote]The Obamacons (Obama Republicans) have set up this process to fail courtesy of Queerty and the snickering Republicans who Hillary-bash as “Fake†Gay Barack supporters.[/quote]
oh jesus christ
please
that tin foil hat looks gorgeous on you, seitan
M Shane
Gawd forbid a Mag Thather That’s the kind of nosense that got us in trouble; Bush in a dress.
Maureen Dowd wrote a great column in the Times just recently something to the effect “Darkness and Light”which gives a great metaphor for the relation betwixt Clinton & Obama, she being the darkness for having rubbed up to into crazy republicans forever and being tough; but Obama maybe being the light for once in years since jfk inspiring the country” She quoted Senator McCaskill :
“I think we should never be derisive about somebody who has the ability to inspire,â€
I don’t know who can do what we need but I think that we might consider calling an apple by any other name what it is.
Orwell said(to the effect) that in times of great
deception , telling the truth is revolutionary.
Lets just see them for who they are, and admit that people are just sick to death of being on this horrible path, on which men have become monsters.
M Shane
Also, I just signed a petition being run around by People for the American Way and another big Democratic organization to let the decision of the people rest.
Besides, I think that given the role of lawyers anymore, “All’s fair.(by the rulebooks) . .applies.” None of the republicans are smart enough to play fair so we;’re just used to finding out what they did later if at all ( since dumbies need to cheat).
M Shane
Also, I just signed a petition being run around by People for the American Way and another big Democratic organization to let the decision of the people rest.
Besides, I think that given the role of lawyers anymore, “All’s fair.(by the rulebooks) . .applies.” None of the republicans are smart enough to play fair so we;’re just used to finding out what they did later if at all ( since dumbies need to cheat).
BTW Andrew, ever think of zipping your trowsers up?
Bitch Republic
Obama is destroying the Democratic party.
M Shane
B Rep. Why do you think something so extreme? So many tried and true Democrats back him. He may not be the best thing but that sort of thinking is destructive, I think..
Michael Bedwell
Raise your hand if you think Donna Brazile just might be threatening to hold her breath until she farts herself to death if the other delegates don’t let “the will of the people” prevail might have something to do with thinking that by the will of the people she means giving the nomination to Obama if he leads even by one single popular vote/pledged delegate. Funny how she didn’t refuse to be designated a Superdelegate herself or protest the very idea which is decades old until there was the chance it might nix her fave’s chances of winning..
Note another hissy fit she had some time back, referring to Bill Clinton: “For him to go after Obama using ‘fairy tale’, calling him a ‘kid,’ as he did last week, it’s an insult. And I tell you, as an African-American, I find his words and his tone to be very depressing.”
Would someone PLEASE explain to me what the fuck “fairy tale” and “kid” have to do with race? If he’d called him “boy,” of course her anger would be justified as that was a way of demeaning black males of all ages for decades. But come on, Lady! Who’s playing the race card now?
Of course the real race card players have been the Obamaites all the way back to October when Obama shoved McClurkingate down our throats in order to win homophobic black votes in South Carolina. But before that primary actually happened, the Dali Obama got his ego handed to him in New Hampshire and, desperate to win in SC, let the dogs out to Swift Boat the Clintons as racist. People like Jesse Jackson, Jr., Obama’s national cochair, who, the morning after NH, went on MSBC for a huuggge stretch—trying to tie Sen. Clinton’s tearing up in NH to her allegedly not tearing up for Katrina victims [read blacks] and actually said that black SC voters should think about that.
People like Obama’s SC campaign rep who distributed a list of allegedly racist things the Clintons or Clinton supports had allegedly said. And it all worked as perfectly as the Swift Boating of John Kerry did re his service in Vietnam. One month Sen. Clinton is ahead of Obama with black voters by over 20%; the next she is behind him that much where nothing has changed—not his programs, not his ideas, not his basic stump speech—except that his opponent has been branded with a scarlett R for racist.
Ya gotta applaud the audacity of sleaze even as you hate it.
PalePhoenix
“Would someone PLEASE explain to me what the fuck ‘fairy tale’ and ‘kid’ have to do with race? If he’d called him ‘boy,’ of course her anger would be justified as that was a way of demeaning black males of all ages for decades.” – M. Bedwell
The same things that “trifling” and “bargainer” do. Not that we should get bogged down with in-group terms, because they dilute most other arguments, and passively exclude people from the discussion. I’m stuck on Shelby Steele’s quantification of Obama ( http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01112008/transcript2.html ). PBS/NPR can be quite intriguing that way. F’rinstance, I had no idea that Henry Louis Gates Jr. wasn’t actually African-American, but Yoruban-Irish (‘ethnicity vs. acculturation’ being as finite as it sounds). Bottom line: We don’t know shit about ‘race.’ It’s a demographic fantasy, and as The Onion succinctly puts it, a real time-saver.
I wish we could vote for The Guy Who Makes Everyone Feel Good…but even on days when I’m neither jaded nor cynical, I’ve still learned to be suspicious of anyone who would promise that without bothering to explain how he intends to make it happen. And I don’t think I’m alone among gay men who don’t WANT to be ‘courted’ or pandered to by a candidate of either party.
At least I can rest easy without the concern that someone like Huckabee will suddenly start politically rimming my voting bloc. Both Barack and HIllary would be wise to avoid the same gestures but, thusfar, it’s the former who thinks he can just skate by if he says nothing specific at all.
Dan
I was all set to be willing to vote for Obama until a confluence of two events, McClurkin and reading his book. In both of those, Obama showed himself to be just another shill for the establishment of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Appointing Jesse Jr. to co-chair didn’t help that perception for me either. Obama played the race card first in South Carolina, and effectively Swift-Boated Sen. Clinton there. He is not the candidate of change from the Rovian tactics, he *is* the candidate of Rovian tactics.
M Shane
Dan: it is those kind of ignorant remarks which are devisive in the party for people without too much upstairs.
I can see that you are only around to be incindiary: Obama , unlike Clinton Voted against the Bushes war and against funding it unlike Clinton: why aren’t you associating her with Rove, Bush and cadre. That is just pablum whomever you support.
You are the Rovian character in this drama, echoing the hateful harangs of turds like Bill O’Reilly, and fat boy limbaugh.
Andrew, I don’t know why you set up all of these republican zannies for a forum-it’s pathetic.
Robert
“She would also likely get the nomination if the DNC counts Florida and Michigan, where Obama wasn’t even on the ballot.”
Actually, each candidate’s name was on the Florida ballot. It’s state law.
Matt
I like Obama but I’m worried about all the promises he is making. The total of all the promises he has made comes out to $874.35 Billion. He says he will pay for it with by repealing the Bush tax cuts but the Bush tax cuts would have to be repealed four times for it to equal the amount of money Obama has promised. I just hope we don’t see a tax increase or the government go into deeper debt so he can keep his promises.
M Shane
Matt: It’s refreshing to hear from someone who’s given the issues some thought.
I’ve been an Obama supporter most of the way. I was suddenly confronted with the issue of which you speak related to health care. Just before the Caucus here, journalists started saying that Obams’ plan wouldn’t go through, whereas Hillary’s would because of relative costs.
There are two things going thee right off : (1) that Bush has put us in such an abominable position re the economy that we are headed for an imense colapse(don’t know if you saw today that when the Fed lowered interest rates the Dow plunged 175 points! This never happens ;when interest rates go down the stock market goes up) The war has cost us a megafortune. and it’s hard to know if anything can happen.(2) the congress decides what we can and can’t spend, no matter what the pres wants. I still like Obama but who ever gets it , we’re better off than with the Reps.
parisinla
It was a creed written into the founding documents, that declared the destiny of a nation… Three words…
seitan-on-a-stick
The whole of this Right-Wing Circus in which every pundit and pundit wannabee have gotten together to tweak the numbers and polls that Barack could beat McCain, the presumed GOP Presidential candidate so the media (including our own) can regurgitate these numbers until the masses believe. Now that the Latte Democrats have crashed from their caffeine high, the truth has always been that Senator and Madame Hillary Clinton is the bigest threat to the very entrenched right-wing machine that even the gay press has been blind-sided by. H.R.C. polls stronger on Experience, Healthcare and the Economy. Barack’s call for Change is ringing hollow as the media starts to shed the lovefest and start the politics of destruction against the more junior of the Senators. The Gay Press is only waking up slowly to the landslide numbers of Gays moving towards a name we already know and trust more which the GOP-Media are not about to define anew. Gays just can’t take risks like the Latte-chugging Obama Democrats. Matt, how easy to use the Lord’s name in vain yet proclaiming all others as Crackpots with the tired heteroist tactics of tinfoil allegory; so very Republican of you (and you just appeared out of nowhere…) with or without your duct tape.
M Shane
What worries me the most now is how the media and most people seem to have just lost track of what Bush and the neo Cons are up to. People who’s minds get totally warped by the prospect of one or the other Democrate,
forget that there is a very good chance that Bush’s program will just be continued because all of the Democrates got absent minded about what the enemy really is, and that he’ll just hop out and demol;ish the Democrates when we’ve been busy infighting.
Does anyone pay any attention to the economy and the fact that it’s crashing like mad-a Bush legacy. The issues related to his destroying the balance of power and making this a monarchy did not disappear because Gonzoles left; it’s as bad as ever. McCain promises a continuence fo Bushe’s idiocy.
There are a whole bunch of dummies out there just waiting to jump us. If people think that the black voters are split between Obama and Hillary they havn’t talked to any of the many black voters who are already determined to vote Republican like the other religious fanatics who voted for Bush. I’m amazed and not . I could never figure ak=ll the posturing Obama did for the Black vote (they don’t see him as an afro-american) Like someone above mentioned, they are just set to swiftboat or do whatever they need to(crooked or not) to win.
It’s one of the oldest battle tactics there is. Get our eyes off the enemy; let the infighting disable everyone and hit when they’re disoriented and confused and blindsided by their own animosities.
We can talk about how stupid we were once more. But keep an eye on the enemy or we’ll have republicans crawling all over.
The impassioned voters are the most hazardous. Often the young just look at superficial features
seitan-on-a-stick
Hillary-Obama 08!