Okay, gays, are you ready to stop complaining about the weddings at the Grammys? For some reason, a lot of us seem to be awfully hot and bothered about the whole affair — accusing Macklemore of using LGBTs as a prop, accusing Queen Latifah of being closeted, frowning at Madonna, etc.
And then there’s this: a couple of people were disappointed that CBS didn’t show any of the gay couples kissing.
While it’s true that you can’t see any gay lip-locks, the broadcast is also pretty short on straight ones. Sure, you can get all conspiracy-theory about it, but there’s no evidence CBS shied away from gay love.
This is a bit of a repeat of the Rose Parade non-scandal, in which various Twitter users accused TV stations of cutting away from the wedding of a gay couple. But if you watch the broadcast, there’s actually no cutaway at all.
For their part, CBS has directly addressed the complaint, denying that they made any decision to cut away from gay couples kissing. So, okay. Satisfied? Now go find something else to gripe about.
balehead
This was shameful..The couples should sue…..CBS should have known better….
Charlie in Charge
They showed actual gay marriages on television – I can’t really see an argument for homophobia here. People who would have switched the TV off because of a gay kiss would have switched it off for a gay wedding.
ncman
No cut-away at the Rose Bowl? Are you kidding? The national channel I watched the parade on didn’t even show the gay wedding float at all. So, I guess technically it’s not a cut-a-way when you don’t even show the float at all.
Mike
@balehead: Oh, you got me there…for a minute I thought you were being serious! You silly goose!
Cam
“”While it’s true that you can’t see any gay lip-locks, the broadcast is also pretty short on straight ones. Sure, you can get all conspiracy-theory about it, but there’s no evidence CBS shied away from gay love.”
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Pretty short isn’t the same as not there is it?
jimbryant
CBS is a homophobic organization which is terrified of male homosexuality. Most media organisations have this fear.
They fear male-male kissing, as all liberals do. Liberals are the most phobic when it comes to showing male-male kissing.
HirsuteOne
I wouldn’t call it a cutaway, but it was certainly a fleeting shot. But then again, the actual ceremony by Q. Latifah was very short as well. It was a live show, they seemed to be running long so the entire affair was time compressed.
For the record, the HGTV broadcast I watched live didn’t necessarily cut away either, but again it was a very, very brief shot with a few seconds of commentary comparatively to the other floats. Kuddos to Nancy O’Dell for actually using the words “say their I do’s” in her brief description, while I recall the Scott (Property) Brothers remained silent.
However, back to the Grammys. The point remains (despite the bashing of Q. Latifah) that 33 weddings, some gay, some straight and some interracial, occurred LIVE, at the Grammys under the cover of a Grammy Award nominated song about same gender love by a Grammy Award winning artist. That confluence of events wouldn’t have been thought possible a year ago. That should be enough for now, instead of still. not. enough.
jimbryant
HirsuteOne,
Gay people are being used. I would rather not have had the gay marriages on the Grammys.
I’d much rather prefer openly gay male singers having commercial success and winning awards. Why won’t the music industry allow this?
Don’t be distracted by token gestures from musical celebrities that are actually a form of exploitation of gay people.
HirsuteOne
@jimbryant:
I’m sorry the Grammys producers didn’t acknowledge your wishes. Did you talk to them directly? If you sent the reply via surface mail, perhaps it was lost. Oh well, better luck next year.
HankBenson
Their abrupt cut from the images of the men holding hands did give the very strong impression they were not at least comfortable with showing the whole gay wedding segment nationally. In fact it was the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw it.
The fact that straight couples got about the same little air time does not justify CBS’s behavior, it only makes one wonder if they did that so they could claim a lack of bias to the gay ones.
It’s shameful, and people should protest it.
HirsuteOne
Bravo to this…Queen Latifah will be singing “America The Beautiful” at the Super Bowl.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/super-bowl-queen-latifah-sing-674534?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thr%2Fnews+%28The+Hollywood+Reporter+-+Top+Stories%29
This will surely make some heads around here explode. “How dare she do this? She’s not OUT!” says those seeking to legitimize themselves or shame others by using her personal truth for their own agendas.
HankBenson
@jimbryant: If such thing would help gay kids in the South (or whereever else that’s hard to live in as LGBT on this planet) to be able to watch, get inspired, and not feel alone, then I’m all for it. And, don’t you think these are mature “adults” that have made the decision to do this in the lime light?
balehead
It’s actually defamation….they have the right to sue now…and you can cut from straight couples because there are tons of straight couples on TV all the time…..
j.martinez53
@ncman:You’re absolutely right. Where I live they didn’t even show the gay float, yet alone the marriage!!
jimbryant
Queen Latifah is not on the side of gay men in my opinion. I think she’s a celebrity who seeks to exploit the devotions of gay men, just like so many female celebrities do. When are we gay guys going to stop devoting ourselves to female celebrities who exploit us?
I honestly think that, as gay guys, we are guilt-ridden frauds who go around saying how much we love “divas” because we want to make up for the fact that we have rejected women sexually. I mean, we can’t even use the word “diva” properly these days. We apply it to any untalented female hack who claims she’s “for the gays”.
Isn’t it time we stopped being such guilt-ridden frauds? Let’s start being real people for a change.
EvonCook
@jimbryant: “Liberals are the most phobic…”??? Are you kidding or just living on another universe somewhere way off planet? Liberals more phobic than who?, conservatives??? LOL Sometimes people say the darnedest things on here, and one just wonders where their heads are buried or how their biases project so much further than their better appendage. I agree with you that there can be hypocrisy, but let’s not extrapolate to absurdity, or turn the world upside-down or inside out with exaggeration.
christineisalesbian
Jim Bryant, did you just call queen latifah an untalented female hack, and mean it? Are you fucking insane??
Tyler100
@christineisalesbian:
No. He’s just a ridiculous troll who is equally as closeted as the closeted celebrities he ridicules because he’s a coward.
j.martinez53
@jimbryant: Speak for yourself and not the gay community! I truly doubt that anyone believes as you do. You’re nothing but a washed up troll who can’t ever find anything good to say about anyone. “We’re a bunch of guilt ridden frauds who are trying to make up for the fact that we have rejected women sexually”??? REALLY??? You are a sick individual!!!
kinseyfiles
@j.martinez53:”
“You’re nothing but a washed up troll who can’t ever find anything good to say about anyone”
BRAVO! You hit the nail right on the head! We are all sick of that nasty queen too!
jimbryant
Liberals are more homophobic than conservatives. Conservatives are more philosophically opposed to homosexuality.
The above two statements are distinguishable. Liberals tend to recoil from scenes of two men kissing on account of it threatening liberal female whoredom. Conservatives tend to be disgusted by it on account of it being a sin.
jonjct
@Tyler100: ^tyler100 you gotta get some manners brother, you can’t just go on here and call bryant a ridiculous troll like that. please make an effort to keep the conversation civil. the name-calling is not cool. upgrade the dialogue please.
Louis
@jimbryant: Absolutely false im afraid most republicans are the ones who would turn the channel wince become enraged vocally protest or complain if they saw 2 people of the same sex kissing on television .
They have actually done this before glee comes too mind in that regard modern family comes too mind in that regard.
Most liberals are very open minded and accepting im afraid you are incorrect and clearly have a bias against those who are liberals.
Louis
@jimbryant: If we are also speaking of sin I happen too be atheist I.E. a nonbeliever but I also remember reading the bible and those so called sins when I was younger.
It also speaks specifically of women menstruating being a sin eating shellfish being a sin wearing polyester being a sin touching a pigskin being a sin.
You speak of homosexuality as being a sin yet follow this so called logic regarding the bibles many fallacies starting with the fact that stoning disobedient children and selling ones daughter to another man to be their sex slave and servant was actually CONDONED in the bible.
Homosexuality is a natural sexuality found in so many animals within the animal kingdom as well as so many different species such as penguins and many others as well.
There is no logic or rationale when someone uses the bible as a reason too justify bigotry and intolerance.
If we also look at one of the most common usages of homosexuality being a sin I.E. soddom and gommorah the realistic interpretation of that specific passage was about being unkempt and a bad houseguest inhospitable it had nothing to do whatsoever with homosexuality.
Its 2014 isn’t it time people stopped following a book full of archaic and narrowminded mindsets?
Its a sexist misogynistic violent hypocritical book im afraid.
Women for example were told too be silent talk about a very primitive mindset that belongs in the medieval times.
Cam
@HirsuteOne: said…. “This will surely make some heads around here explode. “How dare she do this? She’s not OUT!” says those seeking to legitimize themselves or shame others by using her personal truth for their own agendas.
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Wow, you spent multiple posts attacking anybody who questioned why she wasn’t out in the other post. What’s the obsession here?
Dwayne420
You would think we [GLBT] would be the best at creativity, design, tolerance, understanding, etc. The problem is…we seem to be the absolute best at complaining and finding negativity in every positive thing that comes along 🙁 Very sad