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Christian Legal Group Files Lawsuit Challenging California’s Gay Conversion Therapy Ban

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    • the other Greg

      This law merely prohibits licensed counselors, who are (ostensibly) scientifically-trained, from practicing charlatanism in regard to magically turning gay people straight.

      Clergy, shamans, fortune tellers, voodoo queens, mystical crystal healers, and the like, are all still free to practice charlatanism all they want.

      Oct 3, 2012 at 9:54 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Dumdum

      @the other Greg: And that is as it should be. No one questions the legitimacy of fortune tellers and their ilk we know them to be fakes and charlatans. There is no psychological or scientific proof to support conversion therapy. End of story. Do no harm. Is part of the Hippocratic Oath,though I paraphrase. There are certain physiological differences in the homosexual brain that support the idea that we are born with it. We are not converted nor did we choose.

      Oct 3, 2012 at 10:35 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Cam

      I LOVE this freedom of religion fake argument.

      The U.S. bans people from cutting off girls clitoris and vaginal lips even though that is supposedly a religious practice. They ban the use of psychodelics even though they are used in religious ceremonies.

      Christian Science Parents are not allowed to deny medical treatment to their children even though it is part of their religion.

      So claiming that a therepay that has been denoused as not just innefective, but dangerous and abusive is protected under religious freedom is beyond a loser of a case. I will be shocked if this case even survives the motion for dissmissal.

      Oct 3, 2012 at 10:37 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • zaneymcbanes

      Constitution 101: Minors don’t have civil rights because they aren’t full citizens until they’re eighteen.

      Oct 3, 2012 at 12:28 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Little-Kiwi

      how lovely. “This isn’t fair! You can’t stop us from trying to drive our children to suicide!!!”

      suck it, you faux-Christian pieces of s**t.

      Oct 3, 2012 at 12:53 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • 2eo

      Don’t outlaw brainwashing, christianity will be screwed.

      Oh, wait.

      Oct 3, 2012 at 1:04 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Daniel-Reader

      I feel sorry for actual Christians who uphold the teachings of Jesus to love one another and treat each other as equals (do onto others as you’d have done unto you). It must disheartening to see religion has mostly become a business of hate and discrimination and politics. Minus the good religious leaders, there remains less than 100,000 religious leaders in the USA violating the religious freedom and human rights of millions of people.

      Oct 3, 2012 at 3:56 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Charlie in Charge

      @the other Greg: Actually, as a professional fortune teller (specifically a Tarot reader) and very much not a charlatan I can tell you that ethical readers take great care to not blur the line and give unqualified medical or legal advice. Ethical readers also tend to keep a list of hotlines on hand because a large number of potential clients quite clearly display a need for professional psychiatric help. And there are laws on the books (it varies by city) to keep us from giving unqualified psychiatric or medical advice.

      What these insidious conversion therapy types want to do is stand behind a shield of religious rights in order to make their patients harm their minds and bodies.

      Oct 3, 2012 at 3:59 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • the other Greg

      @Charlie in Charge: I’m glad to learn that! I apologize for being flippant about fortune tellers. If you guys have higher ethics than many clergy, I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised. :)

      Oct 3, 2012 at 4:36 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Rock Star

      I’d like to see them just try to “convert” Jesus from being the gay messiah. Yes, Jesus is gay. Gay gay gay.

      Oct 4, 2012 at 2:06 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • hyhybt

      Logically, if licensed therapists can provide proven-harmful treatments without penalty, then so can licensed physicians. Will these same people support, say, bloodletting as treatment for anemia?

      Oct 5, 2012 at 2:01 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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