Hillary Clinton has been hinting at running alongside current competitor Barack Obama: “That may be where this is headed. But of course we have to decide who is on the top…” Ain’t it always… [Newsday]
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hisurfer
Can’t wait for our first national gay contender. It’ll be a fight for who’s on bottom.
qjersey
I’m sure she’s on top with Bill
Bitch Republic
Hillary Clinton has won the biggest states and all of the “bellweather” states that are so important in a general election. Obama has cobbled together wins in places like Iowa and Vermont. For the good of the party, Obama should quit now and agree to be Hillary’s VP (if anything).
M Shane
I don’t think that it’s time to make insane and divisional statements about who should be on top. Anyone could guess that racist Texas would rather vote for a cow ; Tha wasn”t really bellweather anything.
The interesting question is whether Hillary would have the humility to take second place along with Obama, since she brought the issue up. Or was it her ego flapping.
James
BR,
Wow. You don’t even try to be objective, do you? 🙂 “Cobbled together?” Can you please explain the delegate count then? Listen I’m not a fan of Obama , but the least you can do is be a bit more fair in your description.
Jesse
Oh wow, I was unaware that only the “big states” mattered. Last time I checked there are 50 states that make up this nation and most of them are not big states. I live in a “big state” but I don’t think my vote is more important than someone in Georgia or Vermont.
afrolito
The big states Always win the elections.
“As Ohio goes, so goes the nation”….
The ONLY reason Barack has a SLIM lead in the delegate count, is because of the proportional distribution rules set in place by the democrats. I think it’s an idiotic system, and the main reason we’re still in this tight race. The republicans “winner take all” approach to the delegates makes way more sense, as it rewards the winner of the POPULAR VOTE.
Barack will NEVER win in a general election against McCain. Hillary will, because she knows how to deflect anything they can possibly throw at her.
Hope speeches are for losers.
M Shane
Probably Hillary doesn’t think there is any hope.
Maureen Dowd wrote a great article NYTimes aroud the metaphore something like “Dark versus White” comparing the atributes of both
Obama is the first politician in years who has dispeled the American peoples deep Anomie” apathy and pesimism about their futures. Hillary on the other hand has the Darker side from rubbing hulls with the demented , hate and fear riden Republicans, which gives her that fighting,nasty edge, but also makes her alot like them.
afrolito
Yep, it’s a sad day for the obamanuts.
hisurfer
M Shane, you say you don’t think it’s time to make “insane and divisional comments” – then follow it immediately with accusations that Texans are racist and that’s why they voted for a cow.
Some of us actually like Hillary for who she is.
M Shane
If you read my post it didn’t say anything about thier having voted for a cow. I said that they would sooner vote for a cow(possum, cactus) than a negro.
I just finished reviewing books onthe subject of Baracks electability despite his great energy etc. Any intelligent book out on the subject which claims that he is not electable-and they may be righthas nothing to do with ability or progams but (and this makes a lot of sense)
That the caucuses brought him up by energized followers but that in a general election America’s vehement racism will do him in.
Now that’s the first thing I’ve heard that makes any sense! II doubt that i would ever call Ms.Clinton a “cow’ that’s a freudian slip on your part I think.
Bitch Republic
James, Obama has won all the small red states that will definitely stay red in the fall election. He’s not going to bring them around. Hillary has won all of the most important, large states.
If you look at the population figures, the states Hillary has won account for 161m people, while the states Obama has won account for 98m people.
People like to think Obama has some commanding lead over Hillary in the delegate count, but he’s only 0.055% ahead of Hillary at this point.
Bitch Republic
M Shane, Obama and his followers like to claim that race doesn’t matter, unless they’re losing and then suddenly everyone who didn’t vote for him is racist.
I think if Obama were to lose in the general election, it won’t be because he’s black. It’ll be because he’s NOT QUALIFIED. His résumé is shorter than George W. Bush’s. It’s about substance, not rhetoric.
fredo777
Poppycock. Obama is just as capable of running the country as Clinton. Clinton’s “years of experience” keeps being regurgitated, w/o a lot of her supporters actually scrutinizing what she spent her years doing.
Oh, but Clinton is older! She’s been around the block a few more times! So has Dubya. I’d sure love it if he were able to stick around for another 4 years.
M Shane
I was referring to analysis by political scientists, which make sense, not screeching irrationalities which just prevert the issues.
If you read what I said carfully it did not have favor one person or another; it just may make sense. i don’t really personally think that she is anybetter quaified than Obama, but that is irrelivant. If you just want to peiss all over people go out in the alley B.Rep.
M Shane
p.s/. if you think that america is not racist or homophobic beyond belief then you should get your head out of what ever it’s in and look around.
Jesse
As far as percentages, just to throw them out there…
Basing this on the current delegate count by the AP with 203 delegates up for grab including PA, Hillary Clinton needs to win ~75% of the delegates between now and Pennsylvania in order to be tied with Barrack Obama going into the May primaries.
I’ll wipe off my coolaide mustache if she can pull those numbers out of her magic hat.
Bill Perdue
In spite of the hype and hoopla there are no substantive differences between Obama, Billery and McCain.
They all agree the war will have to go on for years. Their bipartisan economic and social policies created the financial chaos that’s steadily corroding our standard of living. Their parties voted for DOMA and DADT in huge majorities and they haven’ lifted a finger repeal them. They were silent when Democrat Barney Frank and his Republicans allies gutted ENDA and dropped it and the hate crimes bill. They all pander to bigots.
After the election we’ll get four more years of Bush Stout form Clinton or McCain or four years of Bush Lite from Obama. However, this next rendition of the political soap opera “As the Stomach Turns†won’t be like the others. We’re in a dangerous situation created by their war, their pandering to bigotry and their economic policies. These questions require real answers, and when the next in a long line of ‘lesser evils’ not only has no answers b
Bitch Republic
Jesse, even if Obama wins 100% of the remaining delegates, he won’t have enough to win the nomination outright, either. Big deal.
Bitch Republic
#14, Obama hasn’t demonstrated in any way that he’s at all qualified to run the country. Giving speeches lacking in substance is not a qualification. If it were, Stephen Colbert would be president.
fredo777
#20, Being a bulldog is not a qualification, either. If it were, Rush Limbaugh would be president.
M Shane
Bill said it all: possibly with the exceptionb that we’re all being a bunch of bimbos letting ourselves be distracted while Bush’s Corporatocracy runs wild reprivatizing all of New Orleans(Milt Freidman’s last ruinous project ) and the Iraq War is run by Halburton ad Blackwater for Exxon /Mobil at an unequaled Debt cost. These aren’t things anybody is talking about. Or that America has the largest percapita prison population in the world. The worst schools(nearly).
Does it ever occur to anybody that this media distraction is intentional. It doesn’t make much of a fucking difference who you elect.
Try thinking & reading about what is really happening on the planet
Bill Perdue
…but stabs us in the back ther’ll be hell to pay.
todd
Does Obama really want to taint himself by riding the Clinton’s coat tails? Look how well it worked out for Al Gore. He’d be better off sitting this one out.
kablamo
.055% is totally off… From the tallies on realclearpolitics he’s ahead by half a million votes (actual votes) that’s something like 4-5% and that doesn’t take into account the differences in caucus versus primary in terms of the number of people who can show up. For instance my state, Washington, is solidly Obama country, but we used a caucus… so while he would have won a primary here (although by likely a less substantial margin) the actual vote count he gets from Washington is lower than from a primary state, even a less populous state. It is admittedly close, but its not like the Clinton camp wants to make it out that he’s only barely winning and that people who vote for Obama shouldn’t count anyway because they’re from a small state, too educated, too liberal, too black, or voted in a caucus.