Chadwick Moore became briefly internet famous after profiling conservative gay Milo Yiannopoulos in Out magazine then “coming out” as conservative in a 2017 New York Post article titled “I’m a gay New Yorker and I’m coming out as conservative.”
Well, a year later, nobody’s talking about him anymore… so he’s decided to create a little scandal for himself in a thinly-veiled bid for attention.
Moore recently took to Facebook to express his outrage over allegedly being kicked out of New York gay bar Metropolitan for being a Trump supporter.
“I was just asked to leave Metropolitan Bar because my political ideology would cause a stir,” he said. “I’ve been a regular there for 13 years. Any thoughts?”
Related: Chadwick Moore, gay writer who “came out” as conservative, tells his story to Tucker Carlson
But, according to Page Six, the bar owners have a different side to the story. They shared their own perspective on Facebook:
Dear Chadwick,
You have come in here quite frequently without incident. We understand that your political views do not match ours, but that doesn’t mean you are not welcome here. FACTS: You were asked to leave because your “brother-in-law who’s a straight guy from Alabama and a truck driver” (your words) started a fight at our sister bar right before you came here. Play that victim card though.
The sister bar is Macri Park. Moore tells Page Six, “No one got into a fight at Macri Park. I believe my sister’s fiancé, who was visiting me, got into a political discussion, but it was in no way a ‘fight.’”
But Drag queen Alotta McGriddles, who witnessed the alleged fight at Marci Park, also has a different side to the story. In a Facebook post, she writes, “If you’re violent and start fights YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED INTO ANY BAR regardless of who you voted for.”
Related: Chadwick Moore on Pulse vigil: Gay people only “care about pop music and going to the beach”
assiandude
I guess I’m not following. Is it ok to deny services because of the actions of a brother in law? Is there something missing in this report?
tham
They throw groups out because of the action of one person in that said group.
Very common.
mhoffman953
@tham
But the bar owner doesn’t say he was throwing out Moore’s brother-in-law or that his brother-in-law was even with him. It says that according to the bar owner, Moore was thrown out because of a “fight” at another bar that involved a family member of his
eddiesocket
Presumably the brother in law was with him, since they were obviously together at the other bar.
dfwenigma
Where I live the saying, and this is probably a southern thing, “you are known by the company you keep”. In other words sleep with dogs and you will get flees. If your brother-in-law has issues with gay people, add in some alcohol and if he’s already riled add in some gay men, a few drag queens and others and something is going to happen. Been a while since I’ve been to a bar but I saw this kind of thing happen in my “home town here” where straight boys were allowed in on Wednesdays at a gay bar for a while. The owners clearly post: this is a gay bar, if you have an issue with that you can leave. Likewise if straight people want to hit a gay bar that’s fine, but sorry folks, it’s a social environment, don’t be ultra shocked when drunk people try to kiss you, “cop a feel”, etc. They’re horny, they’re drunk and probably not ultra responsible adults. Yes people should keep their hands to themselves. Yes people shouldn’t fight. But then there should be peace, love and kumbaya as well. But once alcohol and nearly naked bodies enter the mix all bets are off.
mhoffman953
And there goes Juanjo again…violating Queerty’s new comment policy
Cylest Brooks
Hi. Don’t worry. I’m here.
I have deleted many comments on this thread. Personal attacks against other members are in violation of our comments policy and will be removed. Period.
dwes09
And yet all to often, a carefully composed statement lacking in ethics pretty muxch demands a personal attack, or it is a service to an individual to let ehmr know how offensive they are being. To simply delete comments perceived as “personal attacks” aids and abets homophobes here masquerading as LGBT folks, or those whose personal philosophy involves a desire for us to be back in the closet.
Civility has its limits, especially when faced with apologists for the regressive agenda.
dwes09
Long day at work, my normally atrocious typing degenerates further. Rather than deleting what may be valid posts, an edit feature (like the Washington Post has) might be a better use of bandwidth.
GayEGO
Violence is unacceptable, and the guy started a fight as indicated by Alotta McGriddles. Of course, the guy denies like Trump.
Troyfight
Too many different stories. A security cam would help resolve. …overall, I get the feeling there was not a huge fight.
eddiesocket
There are two different stories. How is that “too many”? Obviously, Moore is lying. His political views have been known for a year and he had gone to the bar in question without incident until now.
PolishBear
Drama drama drama.
barkomatic
Bringing up conservative politics in a gay bar–or probably any bar outside of the financial district and Staten Island is bound to get ugly. It would depend upon how the parties involved define a “fight”. I can imagine a discussion like that getting very loud and disruptive and bouncers kicking people out to keep the peace before it escalates. You may not be “fighting” in the physical sense but bar owners don’t want shouting as paying customers would leave.
This *could* be a deliberate attempt, as the article suggests, to stir up a controversy about “intolerant liberals” and crank out a few youtube videos and articles. Since Milo went down, there really hasn’t been a lot of outrage over these issues which is the lifeblood of the right.
Juanjo
The fact is any business can turn anyone away because of their political views. That is simple reality and justified. Political views are not a protected category, except when it comes to the government preventing speech or punishing speech. So even if the brother-in-law wasn’t a douche bag and had not started a fight, this ass could still have been asked to leave.
Curtis359
True
Roan
They are in some areas. Most notably, Seattle / King County. File that away for the next time you need a trivia answer.
Juanjo
Roan – all I can find is that Tacoma, not Seattle, has an ordinance that protects an employee from retaliation from an employer for political speech at work. That would not apply in this situation. However, if you have a citation to a city ordinance in Seattle or Tacoma that allow a customer to say whatever political speech he desires in a business, please post it. I am not seeing it.
Roan
https://www.seattle.gov/civilrights/civil-rights
Political ideology is a protected class in Seattle / King County in many areas, including public accommodation.
Roan
Their ordinance defines political ideology as follows:
“Political ideology” means any idea or belief, or coordinated body of ideas or beliefs, relating to the purpose, conduct, organization, function, or basis of government and related institutions and activities, whether or not characteristic of any political party or group. This term includes membership in a political party or group and includes conduct, reasonably related to political ideology, which does not interfere with job performance.
Roan
So, in Seattle, you generaly can’t be refused service simply because of your known political beliefs. Of course, that doesn’t mean you can disrupt a business or it’s customers with your behavior such as making speeches, passing out literature, etc. Of course, we would need to go deeper into state/local ordinances to see how they define a “public accommodation.” I assume a bar/restaurant/cafe would qualify. For example, some states classify a bakery as a public accommodation only if an area is provided to consume food purchased on the premises.
Curtis359
Chadwick is in this facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/298842127307742/ . He says he was kicked out because of his orientation. I believe him…
eddiesocket
Why do you believe him? He’s been publicly conservative for a year and they never kicked him out until now.
DCguy
Oh Look,
A Brand New account comes in with a vague “I believe him” but no reasoning behind it.
At least you guys make it easy to spot these accounts.
Kieran
“I was just asked to leave Metropolitan Bar because my political ideology would cause a stir,” he said. “I’ve been a regular there for 13 years. Any thoughts?”
My thoughts are the same as for those bakeries that don’t want to serve people because they are gay. Why would you want to give these people any of your money? Find a new bar to buy drinks where you can be free to be your true self.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
I’d reserve judgement until I see video evidence…rather than condemn on the basis of who has the correct identity politics
Roan
Drag Queen Alotta McGriddles, eyewitness: Dear Chadwick Moore who thinks he was kicked out of Metropolitan Bar for being a Trump supporter. NO, the people you were with started a fight at Macri Park and then proceeded to bring that energy to metropolitan. If you’re violent and start fights YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED INTO ANY BAR regardless of who you voted for, how many people follow you and will blindly leave 1 star reviews because they don’t know the full story and you want to use your “power” to not call attention to the fact that the people you were with got physical in a safe space.
gayjim1969
If you and the people you’re with are respectful, it won’t matter if you’re a Trump supporter or not, as evidenced by the fact that he continued to be accepted by the Metropolitan Bar staff and patrons during the past year up until this incident. All of the evidence–and logic–points to his sister’s fiance losing his cool and taking his attitude on the road and being a good conservative, Chadwick puts political ideology above all else.
DCguy
This has been the Republican game for years now.
The KEEP trying to make up a lie and play the victim. They will claim they were discriminated against for being Repubilcan’s and these stories ALWAYS turn out to be false.
If this bar was going to kick him out for being conservative they would have kicked him out after his fawning article praising Yianopolous came out, they wouldn’t wait for a year until nobody remembers him. But that IS a great time for HIM to want to get his name in the news isn’t it?
We saw this starting years ago, when the Republican on “The A List Dallas” said that his house had been vandalized because he was a Republican. He claimed a police report had been filed. That was a lie, when the police finally looked at the pictures and came out they pointed out that his window was kicked out from the INSIDE and had NOT been broken by anything thrown at it as he claimed.
This is what Republicans do, they cry victim.
DCguy
One last thing, that ridiculous article licking Yianopolous’s boot is why lgbt publications need to be careful and keep up their journalistic standards. Don’t just grab any right winger to provide a false balance.
Roan
Hey Cylest Brooks.. can you send a few mods over to LGBTNation and clean up that comment section too? That’s one of the Q Digital sites as well.
Roan
I believe the drag queen. Alotta McGriddles is a trustworthy name.
mhoffman953
>Can you please state your name to the court?
>Yes, it’s Alotta McGriddles…
>Can you state your real name?
>Oh I’m sorry, it’s Egg McMuffin…
uncz1978
He’s had his 15 minutes of fame. Now crawl back in your hole
Lookyloo
There’s a big difference between merely being a conservative and being an actual Trump supporter. Big difference.
mhoffman953
@Lookyloo
And what would that be?
edwardnvirginia
Of course, the REAL story here is about Private Property and Capitalism.
People who own things can limit access to their things (so long as they are not violating public health and public safety laws and regulations). They can give them away or keep them (so long as they can pay for them). That is called Private Property and Capitalism.
Queer people who own a bar can say who can and who cannot enjoy their bar. Private Property and Capitalism.
So, pray tell, why shouldn’t a baker be able to decide who has access to her/his/their baking skills? Isn’t that Private Property and Capitalism, too?
If queer businesses can limit access – because they want to (giving 1,2,3 or a hundred reasons, real or not real, all the way true, half true, or not true, confusing or clear, etc – why can’ t a baker limit access to their/her/his business? Please discuss.
The SCOTUS is discussing that and we’ll find out what they found out soon.
Roan
This is not the real story. It’s a non story. A business open to the public must follow all federal / state / local laws. The sexual orientation or religious beliefs of the owner have nothing to do with it. The baker in the Oregon case violated a state law. No laws were violated here by refusing service to a disorderly bar patron.
Stilinski26
So hes brother in law engaged in a fight when he wasn’t even there thats the reason????