Today, The Advocate posted an exclusive interview with notorious dancehall singer Beenie Man, in which he allegedly “apologizes” for song after song calling for the death of gay people. Oh, and promotes his new album.
In the intro, writer Akim Bryant discusses how Beenie (born Anthony Moses Davis) went on YouTube earlier this year to issue a mea culpa for his past bigotry:
“However, back in May 2012, Beenie Man took to YouTube posting the first-ever apology video by any dancehall artist to date, in which he said, “Let me make this clear…I have nothing against no one. I respect each and every human being regardless of which race or creed, regardless of which religious belief…regardless of which sexual preference you have including gay and lesbian people.”
Actually, that’s not an apology. It might be a change of opinion, or a clarification, but we don’t see anything about Beenie, 38, being sorry for contributing to violence perpetrated against the LGBT community.
In fact, Beenie didn’t think it was either: In follow-up interviews he said “I never apologized,” and “I told them to leave us alone, to try to understand where we are coming from.”
If you want to understand where Beenie’s coming from, take a look at some of his lyrics: In “Mi Nah Wallah”, he chants about about cutting the throats of all gay men. In another song he sings “I’m dreaming of a new Jamaica, come to execute all the gays.”
And we can’t stop singing “Take a bazooka and kill batty-fucker,” when we’re in the shower.
The New York Times’ Kelefa Sanneh found some real zingers:
In “That’s Right,” the infectious chorus begins, “We burn chi-chi man and then we burn sodomite and everybody bawl out, say, ‘Dat right!'”
And in “Han Up Deh,” Beenie Man cracks some jokes (“Man a save yuh from drowning is a lifeguard/ Man a watch a man batty, him a batty-guard”), then delivers an anti-gay party chant, asking listeners to raise their hands if they agree: “Hang chi-chi gal wid a long piece a rope/ Mek me see di han’ a go up, mek me see di han’ a go up.”
Beenie likes to say he’s being persecuted for songs he wrote as a wayward youth: “Do not fight against me for some song that I sing 20 years ago.” But these murderous lyrics come from tracks that were all released after 2000. (“Batty Man Fi Dead,” or “Faggots Must be Killed,” was released in 2004.)
And he’s performed many of them well into the new millennium.
Maybe Beenie spells it out in the actual Q&A? Bryant asked the Jamaican dancehall star what prompted him to do the YouTube “apology” (Bryant’s word not ours).
“…If you want people to love your music, all you have to do is respect people for who they are. So when I go to Europe now, me have 30 shows—10 of them canceled. People come out and they protest.
…The next reason is I have done a song with Janet Jackson and it being taken off the charts, video taken off MTV. Now this song with me and Nicki [Minaj]. We textin’ and everything (she says) you need to stop it and make people understand that’s not who you are right now.”
Either Beenie isn’t media-savvy or he doesn’t want to bullshit the reader—he’s making it pretty clear he’s changed his tune to stop the boycotts against him, not because he realized hatred and violence are wrong.
It only gets worse from there, folks.
When Bryant asks what kind of change Beenie has seen since talking about treating gays fairly, he replies “the shows that we used to get banned from, we are now booked.”
When he asks Beenie about the homophobia that still rages in his homeland, his response is exasperating: “I can’t be concerned about Jamaica and small-minded and one-track, ya understand?”
Worst of all, Beenie suggests gays in Jamaica rape children—and Bryant leaves it unchallenged:
“You have place in the Caribbean where gay and lesbian is legal like Barbados and a few more places. But Jamaica is a place where it’s just bent one way because gay in Jamaica is not like it is in America. It’s mostly big men with money going down in the ghetto and turning the local youths so you call that statutory (rape) or child molestation.
They convince the youth that they are this way…and me know enough youth this way. That’s why when it comes to gay murder in Jamaica, it’s so vicious. With local youth, they can’t go back to their life that they used to know. And then [the rich men] use them and go find the next youth to use. So people need to understand that in Jamaica it’s a different lifestyle. It’s not like two men come together and say I like [to date men]. That’s not the way it is in Jamaica.
So right now until that finished and the youth stop getting kidnapped and found raped and thrown in a bush…until that stops and gays and lesbians speak out against child rapists and all of these things, then the government will see where they’re coming from.
You can’t beat up on the government when you don’t understand what the government is fighting for. They’re not fighting against [gays]. In the government in Jamaica right now, me sure you can find a few gay people. But the whole Caribbean needs support because the [rapes] have to stop.”
Instead of addressing that claim—and trying to sort out the truth from malicious myths—Bryant next asks Beenie about appearing on The RuPaul Show back in 1996. Who gives a damn about RuPaul (sorry, Ru)?!? The man just said gays in Jamaica don’t deserve equality because they’re child rapists!
Maybe Bryant and his editor just wanted to let Beenie hang himself with his words. But that’s not what comes across—not with a headline like: “Beenie Man Apologizes: The king of dancehall music is sorry for his past homophobic lyrics and says his view on LGBT equality has evolved. “
Toward the end of the interview, Bryant asks Beenie if he’d ever perform at an LGBT event. “Ya know, I just can’t answer that,” the singer replies. “When I get there, I get there, seriously.”
We’ll save you the trouble, Beenie. We don’t want you.
Photo: Alex Const
mk ultra
Ahhh, the Jamaican version of “think of the children!”
But I wonder how many young girls in Jamaica get “kidnapped and raped, and thrown in the bush”?
I guess what Beenie is saying is “when big men with money, like Beenie for example, go down to the ghetto and turn the local female youth….why, that’s the way it is in Jamaica.
Because you know, dancehall singers in Jamaica aren’t like they are here. They are all child molesters.
scribe37
Wow… It is really sad that this man has any sort of a voice. I really don’t think that he should have been interviewed at all.
Kev C
He looks like some decrepit mange covered dwarf.
Joe Joe
Well they DO have gay child molesters, just like they have straight child molesters an bi-child molesters..you can’t separate the sex that the molester is attracted to from their sexuality. The gays are being disingenuous by implying no gay person can be a child molester/rapist/murderer etc..being gay doesn’t mean you are angelical and perfect
joe
Who gives a fuck. These apologies are never sincere. A homophone will always be a homophone. No amount of PR will ever change that.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
@Joe Joe:
Joe Joe, first off, you’re an imbecile.
Secondly, pedophilia is it’s own sexuality. Clinicians don’t consider men who rape boys to be homosexual, or men who rape girls to be heterosexual. They view them as pedophiles, not “gay” or “straight”.
AaronT
@mike ramon: Let’s leave off with racist comments. There is enough hatred in the world without piling another one on top.
Race for Bronze Medal
@Joe Joe: You are exactly why homophobes all over the country have no compassion for gays. Yeah, Beanie is “black, homely, and has kinky hair.” However, YOU ARE GAY. In many people’s eyes, you are worse. And, many want you not only out of the USA, but in a concentration camp.
TJ
He’s actually right and it’s been like that in third world countries forever. What he fails to mention is that young women are in similar predicaments. It seems child sex, as an option, is the problem here so why not say hang the child molestors?
NeverEclipsed81
Because he doesn’t look like a child molester at all.. Projection.
desdemona
hm…perhaps the reason rapes are the apparent norm,is because being gay is viewed as deviant and evil?? Until it is treated like a normal thing,it will never be positive. Homophobia is whats to blame for gay rapes.
Brandon
It cracks me up that gay men are always so concerned with “rehabilitating” their haters and giving so many chances to “apologize”. Some people are just bad apples and should be dealt with as such, but, of course, the Advocate brand of milquetoast journalism would disagree.
kayak
The simple truth is that on Earth there are these pockets of violence and hatred in hellholes like Jamaica and others. Beenie Man should definitely be banned from going to Europe, which is not the jungle he is used to. Oh, and Nicki Minaj and Janet Jackson and anybody have NO business in featuring him in songs. Shame on them.
kayak
@scribe37: Agreed
kawneekwa
He one dum Jamacan. I no dat!!!
Blah, Blah...huh?
Jamaican culture is like Black culture anywhere, rape minded in a deeply pathological “sport” kind of mentality. You’ll never get through to this guy for simple reasons of pathology. He can’t even do simple object related thinking clearly. A turd like this one clearing up his personal boundaries, really coming to understand the “self-other” dynamics in his own thinking, to become more lucid and capable of accurate self reflection? It can’t happen. Might as well try to teach a dog to be an airline pilot.
Sing
Gay wake up call – A term used for gay people, when in an event, they tend to think that they are no different than straight people.gay people, some considered self hating gays , hang around them for the most part and usually consider them as their best friends. They live under the illusion of inclusion when they are with straight people. Over time the same straight people give these particular gay people a reality check. Basically straight people put them in their place to let them know that they are still a faggot. No matter how gay person try to be straight, they are still considered a faggot to them.
Pat Duffy
@Brandon: It’s that “Fixer Upper” Mentality that many of us share with Het women. Most of the time, it isn’t “broke”, it’s “deformed” and can never made “right”.
Best thing is to “starve” it till it crawls away…
Greg
“I respect each and every human being”
No you don’t – you have no respect for anybody. Fuck you, fuck your apology, and fuck your shit music.
Scribe37
@Blah, Blah…huh?: Linking this guys views to blacks is like linking KKK crimes to whites although in your case that might be correct. This is one jerk out of millions of people. From time to time white people say stupid things to me, including gay white men who should know better, instead of assuming every white guy is the same I judge every person by their deeds. Your parents should have taught you that lesson, but I don’t mind picking up their slack. 🙂
JustMe57
As a proud gay brother from the Caribbean i have to say i had always like Beenie Man music. But when he started attacking who i was as a gay man. That when i lost all respect for him as singer. I am sure there are a lot of gay men who like his music before he started singing about killing gay men in his music. Beenie man have to remember music was made to uplift the spirit not pull it down what hate like him and so many other of the Jamacian singers. Bob Marley will always be remember for his music because his music was to uplift the people. These so call Reggae singers should have learn something from him. But i guess not that his pocket is hurting and the dollars are not coming in fast enough he is changing his song trying to apologize to the gays. He is not sincere with his apology.
After7pm
This so werid, in new york & miami theres thousands of gay jamacians, look on youtube for west indies fest in brooklyn. Look at all the gay porn, (breed it raw, macho fuckers, black breeders) majority from Jamacians.
Ted TampaBay
This man is a hot mess of a train wreck. He’s scarey even in the daylight. I’d hide my children from this creep.
JustMe57
After7pm. I did not know that many Jamacians were that into gay porn. Wow, the money must be good. An yes Bennie need to crawl back under the rock from were he came. Look at what happen to Buju Banton his azz is in the slammer. I wonder how he is liking it around all those men. Who know i know in the end he will want to get his groove on ha, ha.
kawneekwa
Why dis boy thinkin bout chil mostin anywah? Better hide yo kids .., and hide yo husbadn to,
Myles
@Blah, Blah…huh?:
Racism and racist statements like yours have no place in any forum,especially not a gay forum.I flagged your “statement” and I’d do more than flag you if you fell into my hands.
Bellerophon69
Rape has to stop everywhere, but blaming only one group or focusing on only one type of rape is defeatist and unproductive, and Beenie Man seems to think that gays are responsible for Jamaican pedophilia. Those people are pedophiles, no matter what their victims sex is, and I have never met a gay man who was also a pedophile, at least to my knowledge. Anywhere. Ok if you don’t like gay mon Beenie Man, you don’t have to love us, but don’t accuse us of things we do not do. The “Man” and the “Establishment” does that enough for both of us!
Randy
Like many (most)right-wing bible thumpers, he’s just ignorant and not willing or able to change that.
jerald
Beenie Man? I had no idea who that is until I saw this post. There will be these types of “celebrities”( I use that term loosely)until the end of time. It seems to me that there are much bigger fish to fry here. Digging up stories about some random Jamaican jackass seems petty in when we have most of the Republican party to deal with.
Blah, Blah...huh?
@Scribe37: I see zero difference where it counts between the “KKK” views, and this guys’ views. It comes from the same self righteous cesspool of thought, and there are loads of Black folks marinating in there, so get a clue and think for your self not your race, that is if you can. I doubt it though.
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Just another useless piece of shit I’ve never heard of with homophobic views. Move along.
Surely
@Blah, Blah…huh?: German culture is just like white culture every where because all white people are the same right charlie?? I guess I shouldn’t allow a white person to baby sit my kids because you know, Jerry Sandusky was white after all and child molestation is a part of white culture.. right?
Scribe37
@Blah, Blah…huh?: People like you never allow people like me forget their race, because it is the only thing that you are capable of seeing. The rapper’s views are as dangerous and nasty as the KKK, but then again do are yours!
Scribe37
“so are yours”
Frances
beenie is no one and said sorry too much he just soory person. one thing he has done got people talking about him
bill(Guillermo3)
@Joe Joe: Too Sad,Joe Joe !!
It appears your brain implant wasn’t successful.
TrekBear
@Blah, Blah…huh?: Jamaican society has been deeply scarred by slavery and British colonialism. That’s not easy to fix especially when the island is heavily dependent on tourism, impoverished, and many of the British power and social structures remain in place.
This isn’t to say that the Jamaicans should continue historical patterns, but the will has to be there first.
bill(Guillermo3)
BEENIE MAN Aptly demonstrates the negative effects of
too much ganga on the brain,even on one,like himself,
who HAS NO BRAIN.
Redd
Ghastly creature……..
Mdvanii
Boycott this jerk….he’s a pure Anti-Culture fly speck on the face of culture and art.
missedgle
@joe: Amen,We need more civility.Is this the kind of world we live in??
missedgle
GOD I live in Tx.The hate is harsh.I wanna get away from all the hate.
richg813
This creature is irrelevant in every sense of the word.
Irishguy
The only thing this son of a bitch would understand is a crack of a baseball bat to the head. Unfortunately one might completely damage what bit of a functioning brain he has so I propose a gang fuck with him as the bottom,with tops of no less that 14 inches at a minimum. In fact, that might just set butty boy beenie on the straight and narrow.
MACDONALDBANK
Being black, left-handed or being gay is just as natural. Bibles and the torah which includes leviticus 18:22 should be immediately banned for promoting hatred against minorities; namely the gay community and the crosses removed from all schools and churches.
The evil writings in Leviticus 18:22 against gays depict; rules for temple rituals or “P” … Priestly Rules & expanded by the pope; homophobes and religious frauds to attack the gay community and never meant to apply to the public but to priests. Leviticus exists in the old testament & torah.
“It is written; so therefore it shall be? We are the chosen people? Such a wicked fantasy.” To see the religious lunatics manipulate government and our lives is shameful.
It is a sometimes rare occurrence to fall in Love and to hold that person in your heart and be loved in return … it is something that should be celebrated! If it is between two guys or girls all the better. It takes even more courage to defend that LOVE!
How would you like it … if hate speech was directed to your brother or sister as you sat in the pew; spewed by some better than thou religious lunatic with a hateful black book about Leviticus — under his arm?
The pope and churches fully aware that Leviticus 18:22 applies only to priests; refuse to remove this stigma maliciously persecuting gays – and many kids bullied into suicide …!
James
Ok. Good. Now I know why I didn’t struggle through the the rest of the Advocate interview after a few paragraphs of completely incomprehensible quotes from this asshole. And I know what I missed – “Me din miz fakull”.
WAM
Fact is, and no one seems willing to say it: dancehall reggae is focused on rape and degrading women and ganja and homophobia. That’s all it’s got. People like it because they feel disenfranchised and it gives them something in common, something to rally around. It’s time to stop being politically correct and call dancehall what it is: hate speech. Beenie ain’t the religion, he’s just its two-bit preacher.
TJ
I think what he essentially saying is that acceptance of homosexuality opens up socially economically disadvantaged society to a power dynamic within which male sexuality can be confiscated or at least unfairly negotiated. Basically they’d be treated as poorly as they already treat the women. There actually is some evidence to support his claim from Africa in the 1600’s but now I’m getting wonky.
WAM
The gays being murdered in Jamaica are NOT rich pedophiles. They are neighborhood guys, targeted and beaten to death in front of cheering crowds. Spare me your rationalization, dude. There’s no redemption here.
velocifero
I so disagree with this PC bullshit of The Advocate. The roots of this morons homophobia and racism (he sings about killing other races too) is so deep and permanent that he will never change. And who the fuck cares. As far as Nicki Minaj doing music with him – well it’s another example of a PopStar™ using the LGBT community to make money off of (insert Lady Gaga here). I love how this moron essentially says he is laying of the gay killing meme in order to avoid concerts being canceled. And as far as The Advocate is concerned, I get better covered of the LGBT community in The Nation or Parade Magazine for that matter. Puh-lease.
KARUADAM
It is not anyone problem that he have Beenie brain..
IonMusic
Why give a MONSTER…an evil living monster like this man a platform to spread his hate, especially an LGBT magazine? I will never ever go on the advocate again. This man contributes to the violent deaths of LGBT in the carribean. They happen daily, most go unreported, and are celebrated when they ARE reported. Read up on them. They are brutal, and happen all the time.
Blah, Blah...huh?
@Scribe37: People like you never let me forget my sexuality. You come up with reasons why I’m “hiding”, unless I do the corny ass BS “coming out” for your foolish “cultural” benefit, then you flip the f**k out and try to light an inner tube on fire around my neck. I don’t know who the hell you think you’re talking to most of the time, but it ain’t me Roscoe.
nikko
@MACDONALDBANK: I don’t get your theology. If gay is okay in the Old Testament, why would priests be banned from gay sex?, but ok for the rest of the people?!
Kielan
The truth of the matter is, if you go poll a bunch of straight black men, they would mostly agree with this man or celebrate his words. Homophobia is a deeply rooted cultural thing for straight men of color. Even though black gays will attempt to scream at you for pointing out the obvious
TreesRite
@Blah, Blah…huh?: thank you for having the courage to say what many of us are thinking. You nailed it and speak the truth!
Jackson
The crazies thing about this story is that Nicki Minaj is so close to him to text him advice.
Seriously, as a black gay dude I’m so sick of hearing all the black gays I know ASSUME every black female singer who sings a pop song is gay friendly (and trust n believe, they assume it) when they haven’t done ishh to prove it. Rihanna dating one of the biggest homophobes in the industry and this clown getting texts crom Nikki (SMH) shame.
Aaron
@Blah, Blah…huh?: Seriously love that you’re standing by your points. Like the other poster, I agree with so much of what you’re saying here. That our society has decided racism is terrible but homophobia is acceptable, surprisingly a notion adopted by the very people most offended by racism, is worth noting and I’m glad you did. And I hope you post more often
MusicI
Is most rap music any better? Why don’t gay people call out blatant homophobic rap lyrics by some artists? Because it’s not politically correct??
eddie
@scribe37:@Jackson: agree 100% so true
Blah, Blah...huh?
@MusicI: Yeah, because the dialogue about homophobia in Hip Hop just arose spontaneously from the benevolence of the hetero-pimp heart. There were and are no LGBT people who ever have to force the issue in the first place. You’re a retard, but you’re an earnest retard. I’m sensing progress, it’s just frustratingly slow is all.
JDXH
@Blah, Blah…huh?: Taking your frustrations out on black people will not help you get past your own RAPE-MINDED mentality.
JDXH
@Kielan: I suppose you have some sort of fact to support your statement??
JDXH
@Kielan: The obvious is what straight white men are DOING to the LGBT community..NO POLL NEEDED…but I guess you don’t care about that, huh?
JDXH
In reading most of the anti-gay stories on this site and everywhere else, it seems that more white people have an issue with the LGBT community. And blacks are supposed to be “rape-minded”? Yeah, ok. Sure….keep telling yourselves that.
JDXH
Make no mistake, it’s a FACT that WHITE gay men are more depicted in major films,TV shows, news and a MAJORITY of gay porn websites..so we are ALL being judged on YOUR actions. That is what is disgusting society to the point of eating Chicken sandwiches in protest! So don’t get it twisted and stop hating on the blacks!. I’m Done.
JDXH
@Blah, Blah…huh?: I think you helped me prove my point. Thank you for that and have a great weekend. 🙂
JDXH
@Blah, Blah…huh?: And judging by your other replies, you are the one who has been playing tit-fot-tat for a couple of days now. Get a life, please. It’s ok….go out and live. You’ll be fine. I promise 🙂
Blah, Blah...huh?
@TrekBear: You know, there are also many entrenched pan-African attitudes and mores at play also…African people invented and perfected enslaving one another for centuries. The notion that you can vanquish an enemy and take his power (cannibalism) is the masculine ideal, while the feminine “judge” decides which of the men (successful cannibals) to work with…With drop-out style religion this kind of gendering is sold as spiritual and natural in some kind of “new modern” sense and that is what’s truly a concern for all people.
People under these influences equate being “free” with being steadfast bigots, homicidally opposed to non-mob, individually oriented rights and sanctions in society. The American islamists designed their whole theology using the Klan as their reactionary blueprint, and the fact is it takes gay people to point out the effects since NOBODY straight is going to connect the dots because it just ties up gays, and nobody like gays. Suicidal and/or homicidal cultures just don’t inspire me these days, and golly, they just seem so f**king unwise and childlike. Go figure….
Blah, Blah...huh?
@JDXH: that’s no way to bear your losses. No class, loser.
Black Hate Gets a Free Pass
I have worked in (mostly Black) Hip Hop music videos for years and often cringed at the FREE RANGE for homophobic Hate Speech used in Hip Hop, were this a Country Western White music video you’d have Al Sharpton et al on CNN demanding justice, you’d have riots and all the networks would drag out the 60’s Civil Rights footage, however the SAME people DENY ANY LINK to the current struggle for Gay Equality. Blacks wrap themselves in a perceived Racial Immunity, having no problem with anti-Gay Hate Speech in Music, Speeches etc. Blacks voted overwhelmingly AGAINST Gay Marriage Equity and FOR the bigoted Prop 8 in California which has denied Gay people marriage equity. WHY is it that the Black leadership is SILENT and NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE? WHY? I am a life-long Democrat and Proud LIBERAL but this double standard practiced by Black Hip Hop Artists and many Black Leaders disgusts me.
JP
Black community being homophobic is something they refuse to acknowledge. It’s not the responsibility of our community to not call that out. And this idea that the black community is untouchable. is silly. They need to be called out for their bigotry more so than they are
Sam Kestu
@Joe Joe:
Nobody says that gay men cannot be child molesters. The fact is that gay men do not molest children at a higher rate than any other men.
Girls are molested at a far higher rate than boys and the sexual molester is often their father, stepfather or brother.
For some scientific information about gays and the child molestation issue, read “Facts about Homosexuality and Child Molestation” http://bit.ly/ebD9il
For more information about Beenie Man: http://bit.ly/Lvjw3t
Sam Kestu
@JustMe57:
“But when he started attacking who i was as a gay man. That when i lost all respect for him as singer.”
It looks to me like Beenie Man put out his first “kill LGBT” recording in 1994: “Bomb and Dynamite.”
More information about Beenie Man: http://bit.ly/Lvjw3t